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Re: Is there a way to run NVDA as a window and not a background process?

 

Thanks, Luke & Sarah.  I would be (and have frequently been) lost without Focus Highlight enabled since no effort is made to keep material on the screen matching the location in the virtual buffer where NVDA has focus.

Even though I'm in a tiny minority when it comes to NVDA users in this regard, Focus Highlight is one of my very favorite functions that NVDA came out with first.  Initially as an add-on, now as a part of the core code.  It also makes it much easier for the blind and the sighted to collaborate when sitting in front of the same computer.
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Re: Is there a way to run NVDA as a window and not a background process?

Luke Robinett
 

That’s correct. I wasn’t at my computer when replying so I couldn’t verify exactly what it’s called but it sounds like people got the idea. Hope it helps

On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:06 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:



I think he does mean the focus rectangle. I’ve seen this, I’ve also I think scene text highlighting, or maybe that also is the focus rectangle.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 10:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a way to run NVDA as a window and not a background process?

 

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 06:57 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:

Enable NVDA text highlighting in preferences.

-
Where is this located?  I'm aware of Focus Highlight (which I use) but not anything called "text highlight" or "text highlighting" (or else I can't find it).
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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

Jackie
 

Thanks, Brian. She's 1 of my web hosting clients, quite knowledgeable,
I might add, so she does know that. & the remainder of your message
was very informative.

On 8/29/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
OK, I said "click on."  I presume every member of this group understands
that "click on" in an instruction set means "activate."  Even I slip,
occasionally.
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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

 

OK, I said "click on."  I presume every member of this group understands that "click on" in an instruction set means "activate."  Even I slip, occasionally.
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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

 

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 05:46 PM, Jackie wrote:
Do you have the addon updater by Joseph installed into your version of
NVDA, Abbie?
-
In addition, in Joseph's original message, he notes:

"You can get these add-on releases in a number of ways:

 

  1. Manual download: the links provided will let you download these releases now.
  2. Add-on update sources: if you are using Add-on Updater 22.08 and later, provided that you are using NVDA 2022.2 or later, you can get these releases from various update sources (community add-ons website or Spanish catalog) once sources are updated to offer these releases to you (for community add-ons website, I have queued these releases for distribution on that website so it won’t show up right away)."

So you have to be using NVDA 2022.2 or later AND have the existing Add-On Updater 22.08.  If you want these now, the easiest thing is to click on the links supplied by Joseph when NVDA is running, and I'll repeat them below.  If your browser asks what you want to do after clicking, answer, "Open." The update will download to a temporary folder behind the scenes and NVDA will then open and install it as soon as the download is complete.  The links:

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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

Jackie
 

Do you have the addon updater by Joseph installed into your version of
NVDA, Abbie?

On 8/29/22, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...> wrote:
I just checked for add-on updates in the NVDA tools menu after reading this
and was told no add-on updates are available. I have the latest version of
NVDA. So, do I need to download these add-on updates directly from their
respective websites, or will they eventually be available for download
through the NVDA tools menu?





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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

Abbie Taylor
 

I just checked for add-on updates in the NVDA tools menu after reading this and was told no add-on updates are available. I have the latest version of NVDA. So, do I need to download these add-on updates directly from their respective websites, or will they eventually be available for download through the NVDA tools menu?


NVDA with Php Storm?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Is anyone using NVDA with PHP Storm? I might have need of it for an
upcoming project and was wondering it's accessibility status before
beginning?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

Chris Smart
 

At least the set up sound doesn’t have low-fidelity water noises in it, like another program I could mention. LOL

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: August 29, 2022 9:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

I  don't see why it makes any difference.  I see no connection between the length of a sound being played by an audio player because setup  tells it to and when files begin to be extracted. I believe that if there is any difference that worrying about it is an obsession with speed.  What in the world difference does it make if an installation, which you don't do often, takes a second or even three or four seconds longer?

Gene

On 8/28/2022 11:02 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Following, I think that same twitter thread, I created an issue to explore whether using a shorter launcher startup sound would make things quicker.  Anyone with extra information or thoughts either way is encouraged to comment on the issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/14068

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin

 

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:43 AM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

When I installed the beta it didn’t take long. The music played then it did its thing.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
Sent: August 27, 2022 11:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

This version took very little time to install, a contrast with the last

release version. I think it has to be just Windows taking time to delete

stuff in the background sometimes.

Brian

 

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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

 

> Hi everyone,

> For those interested in testing out the next version of NVDA, we are

> pleased to share NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 is now available for testing. This

> fixes the input gestures issue introduced in the previous beta. Full info

> and download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-3beta4/

> For those running earlier beta's you will likely already have been

> prompted

> to update, as it came out yesterday - we are just a bit slow posting about

> it!

> Quentin.

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

> Web: www.nvaccess.org

> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

Gene
 

I  don't see why it makes any difference.  I see no connection between the length of a sound being played by an audio player because setup  tells it to and when files begin to be extracted. I believe that if there is any difference that worrying about it is an obsession with speed.  What in the world difference does it make if an installation, which you don't do often, takes a second or even three or four seconds longer?

Gene
On 8/28/2022 11:02 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Following, I think that same twitter thread, I created an issue to explore whether using a shorter launcher startup sound would make things quicker.  Anyone with extra information or thoughts either way is encouraged to comment on the issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/14068

Kind regards

Quentin

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:43 AM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

When I installed the beta it didn’t take long. The music played then it did its thing.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
Sent: August 27, 2022 11:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

This version took very little time to install, a contrast with the last

release version. I think it has to be just Windows taking time to delete

stuff in the background sometimes.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

 

> Hi everyone,

> For those interested in testing out the next version of NVDA, we are

> pleased to share NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 is now available for testing. This

> fixes the input gestures issue introduced in the previous beta. Full info

> and download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-3beta4/

> For those running earlier beta's you will likely already have been

> prompted

> to update, as it came out yesterday - we are just a bit slow posting about

> it!

> Quentin.

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

> Web: www.nvaccess.org

> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: sounds for NVDA

Brian's Mail list account
 

I particularly like the one I use which puts the sounds into a stereo sound map, and it helps with figuring out the layout of a screen if you have been sighted and want to understand a bit out what is going on.
It will need some significant work to make it completely compatible with next years NVDA from what I have seen as it relies on quite a few routines which will be changed or moved then.
Deprecated is a wonderful word!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds for NVDA


There was a nvda themes ad on, do you mean that one? I forgot its replacement, if there was one.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds for NVDA



On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 04:45 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:

that gives sounds to NVDA

-
What, precisely, do you mean by the above? There is an ongoing discussion on the Chat Subgroup (it could have been asked here, as it is NVDA-related) about this entitled, <https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/changing_the_sound_scheme_of/93303488?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,0,93303488,previd%3D1661701813127925796,nextid%3D1660030959708152507&previd=1661701813127925796&nextid=1660030959708152507> changing the sound scheme of nvda, if what you're referring to is a full sound scheme. And the conclusion is that this is not supported; under-the-hood tinkering is required.
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Re: NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Following, I think that same twitter thread, I created an issue to explore whether using a shorter launcher startup sound would make things quicker.  Anyone with extra information or thoughts either way is encouraged to comment on the issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/14068

Kind regards

Quentin

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:43 AM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

When I installed the beta it didn’t take long. The music played then it did its thing.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
Sent: August 27, 2022 11:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

This version took very little time to install, a contrast with the last

release version. I think it has to be just Windows taking time to delete

stuff in the background sometimes.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

 

> Hi everyone,

> 

> For those interested in testing out the next version of NVDA, we are

> pleased to share NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 is now available for testing. This

> fixes the input gestures issue introduced in the previous beta. Full info

> and download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-3beta4/

> 

> For those running earlier beta's you will likely already have been

> prompted

> to update, as it came out yesterday - we are just a bit slow posting about

> it!

> 

> Quentin.

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

> 

> Web: www.nvaccess.org

> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: sounds for NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, goes to show how in the dark I am.  Pun non intended.  Lol! Hmm, now you’ve got me wondering, stop that. Lol! Hehahahah. Surely there has got to be something.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds for NVDA

 

Sarah,

There was (is, but it's not been updated/tested with current NVDA versions) an add-on called Audio Themes.  I didn't even mention it since it hasn't been updated (even the beta version) since the NVDA 2019 era.
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Re: sounds for NVDA

 

Sarah,

There was (is, but it's not been updated/tested with current NVDA versions) an add-on called Audio Themes.  I didn't even mention it since it hasn't been updated (even the beta version) since the NVDA 2019 era.
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Re: sounds for NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

There was a nvda themes ad on, do you mean that one? I forgot its replacement, if there was one.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds for NVDA

 

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 04:45 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:

that gives sounds to NVDA

-
What, precisely, do you mean by the above?  There is an ongoing discussion on the Chat Subgroup (it could have been asked here, as it is NVDA-related) about this entitled, changing the sound scheme of nvda, if what you're referring to is a full sound scheme.  And the conclusion is that this is not supported; under-the-hood tinkering is required.
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Re: sounds for NVDA

 

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 04:45 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
that gives sounds to NVDA
-
What, precisely, do you mean by the above?  There is an ongoing discussion on the Chat Subgroup (it could have been asked here, as it is NVDA-related) about this entitled, changing the sound scheme of nvda, if what you're referring to is a full sound scheme.  And the conclusion is that this is not supported; under-the-hood tinkering is required.
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Re: NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

Arlene
 

When I installed the beta it didn’t take long. The music played then it did its thing.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
Sent: August 27, 2022 11:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

This version took very little time to install, a contrast with the last

release version. I think it has to be just Windows taking time to delete

stuff in the background sometimes.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 now available

 

 

> Hi everyone,

> For those interested in testing out the next version of NVDA, we are

> pleased to share NVDA 2022.3 Beta 4 is now available for testing. This

> fixes the input gestures issue introduced in the previous beta. Full info

> and download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-3beta4/

> For those running earlier beta's you will likely already have been

> prompted

> to update, as it came out yesterday - we are just a bit slow posting about

> it!

> Quentin.

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

> Web: www.nvaccess.org

> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Is there a way to run NVDA as a window and not a background process?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think he does mean the focus rectangle. I’ve seen this, I’ve also I think scene text highlighting, or maybe that also is the focus rectangle.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 10:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a way to run NVDA as a window and not a background process?

 

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 06:57 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:

Enable NVDA text highlighting in preferences.

-
Where is this located?  I'm aware of Focus Highlight (which I use) but not anything called "text highlight" or "text highlighting" (or else I can't find it).
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sounds for NVDA

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

hello, I would like to know if there is any add-on approved by NV access that gives sounds to NVDA
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Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.09 are now available:

 

IMPORTANT: these releases require NVDA 2022.2 or later (2022.2.2 or later is recommended for security).

 

A key change for Add-on Updater is checking add-on download integrity. Years ago, when NVDA add-ons community members were discussing add-on download and updating functionality, one of the concerns was making sure what users are downloading is indeed the package the add-on author has published. Among different suggestions such as hashes and digital signatures, as part of an add-on store proposal, NV Access has adopted SHA256, a popular hashing algorithm used in digital signatures and verifying file downloads to make sure data is not tampered with. Recently, I and Noelia Martinez began sharing SHA256 values for add-on releases not only for power users to compare hash values, but also to prepare our add-ons for submission to the NV Access add-on store (work in progress; discussion and feedback on add-on store should be shared with NV Access directly, not on this forum please as the feature is under development). Therefore, Add-on Updater 22.09 and later will check add-on package integrity by comparing hash values coming from add-on update sources against the value obtained after downloading add-on updates, and if they do not match, add-on updates will not be installed (if add-on update dialog is shown, an error message will be presented). As of August 2022, community add-ons website (technically, a repository used to store compatibility information for add-ons registered on community add-ons website) stores hash values for some add-ons. As for what add-on authors should do, that’s reserved for discussion on NVDA add-ons mailing list.

 

Regarding Windows App Essentials 22.09, this release resolves an issue reported by a user on GitHub where NVDA will not announce status changes when using parts of Visual Studio 2022. More importantly, this is the first release to require Windows 10 Version 21H2 (November 2021 Update) or later and is officially compatible with upcoming Windows 10 Version 22H2.

You can get these add-on releases in a number of ways:

 

  1. Manual download: the links provided will let you download these releases now.
  2. Add-on update sources: if you are using Add-on Updater 22.08 and later, provided that you are using NVDA 2022.2 or later, you can get these releases from various update sources (community add-ons website or Spanish catalog) once sources are updated to offer these releases to you (for community add-ons website, I have queued these releases for distribution on that website so it won’t show up right away).

 

Enjoy the new releases.

Cheers,

Joseph