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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
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Rowen Cary
Thanks Joseph, But I don't seem to see the new translation docs merged into the add-on updater. |
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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
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Ravindran V.S.
Thank you Joseph for your swift response. Got it, so need to check for every add-ons version number before updating them. Specially if we install the latest version from the direct links. Cheers, Ravi. V.S.Ravindran. Excuses leads to failure!””
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 9:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials #addonrelease
Hi, This is more towards add-on source repository maintenance area as it takes time for repository maintainers to update download links. I have elected to compare version differences rather than trying to see which one is newer due to subtleties with Python, soething beyond Add-on Updater's control. Cheers, Joseph |
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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
#addonrelease
Hi, This is more towards add-on source repository maintenance area as it takes time for repository maintainers to update download links. I have elected to compare version differences rather than trying to see which one is newer due to subtleties with Python, soething beyond Add-on Updater's control. Cheers, Joseph |
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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
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Ravindran V.S.
Dear Joseph,
I have noticed that when checking for update using the Add-on Updater, even just noticed from the Spanish community source, it offers updates but not to the higher version. Seems it is just comparing the version numbers and if there is a difference it tents to update. For e.g.; I have the latest Add-On updater version 2022.10 installed direct from the link you offered. And when I check the updates, it offers to update and the version says as 2022.09 And I have noticed this with several of them. Even the Tonys Enhancement keeps on updating almost every time it is checked. And the offering is for a lower version. I tried to copy the list of offerings to show here, but cannot copy that list. This happens with the NVDA Community source too.
What am I doing wrong or anything to avoid this please? Using Windows 10 Pro; 2022 h2 64bit NVDA 2022.2.3 Add-On updater version 2022.10 Vocalizer synth
Due to a problem that NVDA loads and the speech did not come; So I have uninstalled NVDA and made a fresh installation. And Have disabled all Add-ons and just activated Add-on updater and couple of others. Trying to identify the problematic Add-on which caused this problem. Or any other facts; Narrator and other screen readers did not have this issue. Since NVDA is my primary SR got stuck a bit.
But all the Add-Ons worked fine with the previous version of NVDA.
Thanks, Ravi. V.S.Ravindran. Excuses leads to failure!””
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 5:15 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials #addonrelease
Hi all, Within the next twenty minutes of sending this email, Add-on Updater will begin offering updates for Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials, and for itself provided that add-on update source is set to community add-ons website. Cheers, Joseph |
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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
#addonrelease
Hi all, Within the next twenty minutes of sending this email, Add-on Updater will begin offering updates for Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials, and for itself provided that add-on update source is set to community add-ons website. Cheers, Joseph |
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Re: Potential accessibility issues with disk manager on windows 10
Tom Moore
Hi, I was able to figure out how to get my drive working. I was unable to figure out how to partition the drive with in disk manager so I just used Diskpart to create the partition I needed and format it.
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Re: Potential accessibility issues with disk manager on windows 10
My colleague figured everything out. He didn't give me
excruciating details, however.
On 9/22/2022 1:39 PM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: scroll through?
I have these types to. I have to scroll with mouse wheel on the start of them till they are no more intel graphics drivers do this. I eventually get there but yeah. On 25/09/2022 4:03 am, Brian Vogel
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Re: scroll through?
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Yeah strange things. I was in a rewards program after doing a google test. I was able to read most things but some address fields appeared weird and there was that checkbox. Nvda could see its location but couldn't click it, recognise it was a box or say there was a box. And when clicked there was no feedback and I needed sighted help. Now since I do test for dolphin I do have their reader. Maybe jaws can read it but I'd wager it can't not even narator can read it in a chromium based brouser. If it doesn't work with nvda or narator which are really basic readers using a lot of system stuff jaws may not either. On 25/09/2022 3:38 am, enes sarıbaş wrote:
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Re: scroll through?
Gene
What happens if you move to that point in browse mode, then use the NVDA move mouse command to where you are on the web page. What we call the virtual mouse in NVDA, is actually moving the real mouse as far as Windows is concerned, even though you are not moving a physical mouse. I find times when I can't move the mouse using the NVDA move mouse command but its worth trying.
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Gene On 9/24/2022 10:47 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
No the checkbox only works when hte website detects the mouse has scrolled to a specified point. |
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Re: Potential accessibility issues with disk manager on windows 10
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:20 PM, leandro da cruz wrote:
be better if I did everything by command through CMD what do you think?- If you understand how to use the diskpart command, then, yes, as it gives you perfect control with no GUI. Personally, I'd lay out what I need to do as a command script in a BAT file, then run that. As an example, I give instructions when doing a completely clean install of Windows 10 or 11 for wiping the disk beforehand, which in that case you do by hand at the time, but those commands could be placed in a BAT file. ----- diskpart
select disk {correct number, which you've checked manually in command prompt just before you run this script and replace it here}
clean
convert gpt
exit
-----See the following references (and there are thousands more that exist on the web): https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/diskpart https://www.thewindowsclub.com/list-of-diskpart-commands-windows https://www.lifewire.com/diskpart-command-2625864 I personally hate the GUI for disk manager and don't use it. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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Re: Potential accessibility issues with disk manager on windows 10
leandro da cruz
It would be better if I did everything by command through CMD what do you think?
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Re: scroll through?
enes sarıbaş
This is really hard to demonstrate. The TMobile prepaid refill
screen has such a box, which was one reason I decided to switch to
postpaid and get a much better designed website. But the Apple
IPhone order page when selecting carrier financing also has two
checkboxes that you need to scroll to be able to check the box to
accept the agreement. On 9/24/2022 9:51 AM, Brian Vogel
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I'd be far more inclined to try a different web browser than a different screen reader as the first attempt at problem solving. It's well known that certain websites "play better" with screen readers when used with specific web browsers. |
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Re: scroll through?
enes sarıbaş
No the checkbox only works when hte website detects the mouse has scrolled to a specified point.
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On 9/24/2022 9:46 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
I'm curious to check this out. Are you sure there isn't a checkbox or button you can activate? |
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Re: scroll through?
Gene
If you can't scroll as I described, you may well be able to if you
turn caret browsing on and move with the arrow keys or with page
down through the page in that way. Using Firefox, if I turn caret
browsing on, I can move down the screen in those ways. Whether that
makes the web page think I have read the agreement is another
question but that is something else to try.
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Have browse mode off, caret browsing on and move through the page. To turn on caret browsing, issue the command f7. A dialog will come up. Answer yes. To turn off caret browsing, use f7 again, you may have to press it more than once, The same dialog will come up. This time, answer no. Gene On 9/24/2022 10:03 AM, Brian Vogel
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Re: scroll through?
Gene,
Just FYI, it seems to me these days that these agreements are generally contained in some sort of "mini-window" of their own that resides on the webpage itself. I really cannot remember what that object is called, but you have to scroll the text as it's showing within that object or it's not going to recognize it as having been read (even though virtually no one is actually reading, they're just scrolling to the bottom of the text). Someone who does web coding probably knows what these objects/widgets are actually called, but I don't. Even the "agree" button or checkbox is often an integrated part of the thing. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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Re: scroll through?
Gene
I'll add that I thought page down moved you through a web page when
browse mode is off but experimenting raises the question of whether
it does. Brian should be able to answer the question. I would
expect it to but from playing around with NVDA, I'm not sure it
does, yet there must be a way to scroll down a page using the
keyboard, working directly with the page.
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Gene On 9/24/2022 9:57 AM, Gene wrote:
Along with trying another browser, I would suggest moving through the page using NVDA, by repeatedly pressing page down while browse mode is off. After all, if a site does try to determine whether someone reads an agreement, the only way it can do so is if the person scrolls through it and using page down on a web site while browse mode is off moves you directly through the underlying page so you should be able to fool the site. |
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Re: Version 22.10: Add-on Updater, Event Tracker, Windows App Essentials
#addonrelease
Joseph could not have been more clear, in my opinion.
1. The add-ons are complete. 2. The request has been made to queue them through the normal automatic distribution channels, but that request has not yet been acted upon. 3. Manual download links have been provided for those who wish to apply these updates prior to their entering into the automatic distribution channels. You don't have to do anything to get these updates if you're willing for them to show up via the normal automatic update channels once they've been queued there. But if you "have to have them now" a way has been provided for you to download the add-on. Once you've done that, if NVDA is running, activating the add-on file will cause it to be installed in NVDA. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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Re: scroll through?
Gene
Along with trying another browser, I would suggest moving through
the page using NVDA, by repeatedly pressing page down while browse
mode is off. After all, if a site does try to determine whether
someone reads an agreement, the only way it can do so is if the
person scrolls through it and using page down on a web site while
browse mode is off moves you directly through the underlying page so
you should be able to fool the site.
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Gene On 9/24/2022 9:51 AM, Brian Vogel
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I'd be far more inclined to try a different web browser than a different screen reader as the first attempt at problem solving. It's well known that certain websites "play better" with screen readers when used with specific web browsers. |
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Re: scroll through?
I'd be far more inclined to try a different web browser than a different screen reader as the first attempt at problem solving. It's well known that certain websites "play better" with screen readers when used with specific web browsers.
Again, it would be helpful to have example URLs, as this is very difficult to troubleshoot in the abstract. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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