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Re: new laptop

valiant8086
 

Hi.

On the Yoga2pro it has some enhancements that cause it to crackle a bit, so I turn it off by using the disable all enhancements checkbox in the stock windows sound thing. It doesn't make audiodg.exe use lots of cpu the same way the dell's seem to.


Not sure if that may have been changed since then.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 4/26/2018 11:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well all my units have been 15.6-17 inch, I wouldn't be going bigger than 15.6, sure if a 13 supported duel drives sure but well hmmm.

That is a concern if the apps on the lenovo are not as accessible as one would like though realistically all I would need would be the units serial number or whatever service number I need to update the thing.

I know dell does allow autodetection of the units as does hp.

Something betwene a gaming which is huge and heavy to a smaller unit, anything from 1.8 through 2.6 which is about what I have now in weight is fine.

I plan to do all my work, gaming, and entertainment on the unit I choose so it needs a bit of everything.

What are the sound effects and enhancements like on the lenovo.

The keyboard does give me some pause I can deal with a few things but if I have to swap the board about with keys if I ever need to use the unit without my external board, well it depends what is where.




On 4/27/2018 9:41 AM, valiant8086 wrote:
Hi.


At least on my Yoga2pro, the bloat is mostly in the form of small uwp apps, nonobtrusive. Some of them are useful, and not all that screen reader friendly, like Lenovo Software Update, which maintains the drivers and such. Lenovo uses the function key row for action keys by default you have to change it. FN escape will toggle it, but that may be temporary. A permanent fix that sticks across reboots may arive if you update the bios and hit fn+escape again, or if that still doesn't work, just using sighted assistance and turning the media keys into function keys directly in the bios will work. Sometimes keys aren't where they ought to be. Lenovo Yoga920 for instance, Yoga720, don't have context keys at least not in the proper place between right alt and right control. Keys will need remapping to get them to do things one is used to like for instance if the insert key is in the wrong place, may be able to remap it with what ever is to the left of delete, possibly print screen. I've got 30000 hours of runtime on my Yoga2pro with some button swaps applied and all is well. The keyboard is physically at end of life, but my print screen or what ever it is has happily been function as an insert key for all these years with no trouble.


You might need USB type A ports, so ensure that you're going to be getting those and won't be left with only USB c and thunderbolt ports, that's common now.


Do you want a little ultrabook or would a slightly fatter laptop with just a 13 inch screen work or what.


As far as I can tell currently in terms of hardware performance Yoga's winner in the ultrabook field is Thinkpad t480s, and there's a small chance I'll be buying one soon. If you have a model you're interested in and want to geek out with benchmarks, hardware reviews and such try googling something like this

notebookcheck.net dell xps13 2 in 1

notebookcheck.net Lenovo T480s

and of course, availability is a factor. I would guess that Lenovo and Asus both would be available in some form or another.


Cheers:

Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 4/25/2018 4:25 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
AAh ok, is any of that extra lenovo stuff any good though.

For example, on my old toshiba I kept all of the extras mostly till it exited support then cannd it all because it was not of use.

On the hp I had bar office mcafee and some games I kept most of it as I used the support hub a lot and it had some use.

After all the issues with the cyberlink stuff and my dvd drive on another system weather I keep that on on my new box would be a different matter I'd probably keep it but not use it.

As for lenovo, I think I would look at it first and see if it was any used to me before I killed it all and at least looked what use it had.

Some of it I'd probably get rid of though.

Not everything is bloat if you have a use for it.




On 4/26/2018 12:52 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
I've had pretty decent luck with my Lenovo, though there will be some bloatware that comes with the PC you'll want to get rid of. (Basically anything in the programs list that starts with Lenovo can be uninstalled safely.) I've had mine for a year and it generally runs quite fast.
On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

aah ok.




On 4/25/2018 8:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] new laptop


Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.













will be using a new email address

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I've been having some problems with my gmail account. On some email lists, I'll try to write a message. Later I get a message back saying that my message is undeliverable. I created an outlook account today with the help of the Microsoft disability line. Do I unsub this address first before going to the new one?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: Command line window output not being spoken

Tony Malykh
 

Ah, silly me, apparently that is indeed what happened. Now command prompt works fine. Thanks for the hint and sorry about this question, I am still an NVDA newbie.


On 4/28/2018 4:10 PM, Sam Taylor wrote:

Hi Tony,

I don't suppose you've accidentally turned off report dynamic content changes with NVDA+5?

Sam


On 29/04/2018 09:09, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all,


I work in command line window (also known as terminal, prompt, etc) a lot and today my NVDA stopped speaking the output of my commands. Review cursor still works - I can press numpad 7, numpad 9 to read all the lines displayed. But when my program prints something, NVDA doesn't speak this automatically any longer. This just happened today - I suspect my Windows installed an update which broke some compatibility feature.


Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Are there any known workarounds for this?


Thanks

Tony







Re: what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

that's working great!
i'm glad you tell me.
i'll try it out and if i have questions about this i write you!
thanks!
paul otter


Op 29-4-2018 om 01:32 schreef Suzy:

Hi Paul,

If you are using NVDA with the laptop layout on a Dell computer, you can navigate the screen with the arrow keys. I have never used the FN key with letters to do this. In fact, an NVDA modifier is not necessary.
Left or Right Arrows read the screen letter by letter.
Add Control to the left and right arrow keys and read the screen word by word.
Up or Down arrows read the screen line by line.
FN + Left Arrow is Home.
FN + Right Arrow is End.
FN + Up Arrow is Page Up.
FN + Down Arrow is Page Down.
Add Control to the Home or End commands above to move to the top or the bottom of the screen.
And finally, add Shift to the above commands to select text.

I've used these commands on Asus, Toshiba, Dell, and Lenovo laptops.

Each of these computers differ on how to make the Function Keys work without using the FN key. Look on line or read your manual to learn how to do it.

Hope this helps.
Suzy



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

i've done already, but the problem is that i can not navigate around the screen like i do with the numberic key block on my computer.
all the other things are possible i know there are some laptops where you can press the fn key while typing the letters jkl uio and 789 to manipulate the screen.
but it's a pitty, not here unfortunately!
cheers paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 17:25 schreef George McCoy:
I wound up with a laptop that did the same kind of thing. I switched
NVDA to the laptop keyboard layout and, after a short learning period,
I was able to do everything I did before. So you might want to try
out the laptop layout and see what happens.

Best of luck,
George

-----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change
sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter







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Re: what can i do please help

Gene
 

Those aren't screen review commands.  Those are commands to move and read information on a screen such as in a word processing program where a cursor is present.  Such commands are Windows commands and will work regardless of screen-reader being used and regardless of keyboard layout. If a sighted person uses such commands with no screen-reader being used, the sighted person will move the cursor in the same ways, right and left arrow, by character, control right and left arrow, by word., etc. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Suzy
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

Hi Paul,

If you are using NVDA with the laptop layout on a Dell computer, you can navigate the screen with the arrow keys. I have never used the FN key with letters to do this. In fact, an NVDA modifier is not necessary.
Left or Right Arrows read the screen letter by letter.
Add Control to the left and right arrow keys and read the screen word by word.
Up or Down arrows read the screen line by line.
FN + Left Arrow is Home.
FN + Right Arrow is End.
FN + Up Arrow is Page Up.
FN + Down Arrow is Page Down.
Add Control to the Home or End commands above to move to the top or the bottom of the screen.
And finally, add Shift to the above commands to select text.

I've used these commands on Asus, Toshiba, Dell, and Lenovo laptops.

Each of these computers differ on how to make the Function Keys work without using the FN key. Look on line or read your manual to learn how to do it.

Hope this helps.
Suzy



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

i've done already, but the problem is that i can not navigate around the screen like i do with the numberic key block on my computer.
all the other things are possible i know there are some laptops where you can press the fn key while typing the letters jkl uio and 789 to manipulate the screen.
but it's a pitty, not here unfortunately!
  cheers paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 17:25 schreef George McCoy:
> I wound up with a laptop that did the same kind of thing.  I switched
> NVDA to the laptop keyboard layout and, after a short learning period,
> I was able to do everything I did before.  So you might want to try
> out the laptop layout and see what happens.
>
> Best of luck,
> George
>
> -----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:08 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help
>
> hello all,
> i've a problem with my laptop.
> it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
> it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
> most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
> navigate around the screen with nvda.
> but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change
> sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
> what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
> with nvda.
> there is also no numlock key.
>
> i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
> the digits are working correct with numlock off.
> but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
> mouse click and a right mouse click.
> but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.
>
> so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
> is there a way to solve this problem?
> i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
> thanks in advance!
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>









Re: what can i do please help

Suzy
 

Hi Paul,

If you are using NVDA with the laptop layout on a Dell computer, you can navigate the screen with the arrow keys. I have never used the FN key with letters to do this. In fact, an NVDA modifier is not necessary.
Left or Right Arrows read the screen letter by letter.
Add Control to the left and right arrow keys and read the screen word by word.
Up or Down arrows read the screen line by line.
FN + Left Arrow is Home.
FN + Right Arrow is End.
FN + Up Arrow is Page Up.
FN + Down Arrow is Page Down.
Add Control to the Home or End commands above to move to the top or the bottom of the screen.
And finally, add Shift to the above commands to select text.

I've used these commands on Asus, Toshiba, Dell, and Lenovo laptops.

Each of these computers differ on how to make the Function Keys work without using the FN key. Look on line or read your manual to learn how to do it.

Hope this helps.
Suzy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

i've done already, but the problem is that i can not navigate around the screen like i do with the numberic key block on my computer.
all the other things are possible i know there are some laptops where you can press the fn key while typing the letters jkl uio and 789 to manipulate the screen.
but it's a pitty, not here unfortunately!
cheers paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 17:25 schreef George McCoy:
I wound up with a laptop that did the same kind of thing. I switched
NVDA to the laptop keyboard layout and, after a short learning period,
I was able to do everything I did before. So you might want to try
out the laptop layout and see what happens.

Best of luck,
George

-----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change
sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter







.


Re: Command line window output not being spoken

Sam Taylor
 

Hi Tony,

I don't suppose you've accidentally turned off report dynamic content changes with NVDA+5?

Sam


On 29/04/2018 09:09, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all,


I work in command line window (also known as terminal, prompt, etc) a lot and today my NVDA stopped speaking the output of my commands. Review cursor still works - I can press numpad 7, numpad 9 to read all the lines displayed. But when my program prints something, NVDA doesn't speak this automatically any longer. This just happened today - I suspect my Windows installed an update which broke some compatibility feature.


Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Are there any known workarounds for this?


Thanks

Tony






Command line window output not being spoken

Tony Malykh
 

Hi all,


I work in command line window (also known as terminal, prompt, etc) a lot and today my NVDA stopped speaking the output of my commands. Review cursor still works - I can press numpad 7, numpad 9 to read all the lines displayed. But when my program prints something, NVDA doesn't speak this automatically any longer. This just happened today - I suspect my Windows installed an update which broke some compatibility feature.


Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Are there any known workarounds for this?


Thanks

Tony


Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

Jason White
 

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Are you saying you don't have to open the book marks menu?
Yes. It also seems to search browser history. I use this feature frequently.

In addition, if you have multiple devices, you can synchronize Chrome
bookmarks and browser history across all of them. The same is true of Firefox.


Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Aman Singer
 

Hi Dave and all,

 

                Generally, when I use Drive Snapshot, it is to restore an operating system image on a new drive or on to a new PC. Therefore, I will want to boot from USB to restore that image. If I’m restoring to a standard drive I can, of course, attach the drive to another PC, either through an enclosure or through SATA, and simply run the program from within Windows but most of the time, there’s a drive crash or it’s a totally new system or it’s a laptop I don’t want to open, so I’ll want to boot from external storage and copy my OS to the drive. For this, I use either the Windows 10 talking installer or one of the talking PE images. Sighted assistance is very often needed to boot to the image, particularly on machines which don’t want to boot from USB normally, but it’s not strictly necessary when you’re booted and running though, of course, it makes things faster and is useful when there are errors.

Aman

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

Normally with Drive snapshot  there is no need for a talking environment.

When I have used Drive Snapshot in the past it simply works from withing Windows.

Basically you back up your image withing windows.

Then to restore your image you again from within Windows select the drive you want to restore to and then Windows will reboot and Drive napshot will restore the image you have selected and then reboot into that image of windows automatically.

So really it is just a case of waiting for NVDA to start up with the login prompt to alert you that the restore image process has completed.

Of course if you have a catastrophic  failure and cannot get  into any version of windows there is a problem.

The developers provide a CD rom image for booting if necessary and they did provide me with a set of instructions of what to type to restore an image – it was not that complicated but there is no talking feedback.

Personally I resigned myself to seeking sighted help if this was a problem.

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

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From: The Wolf
Sent: 27 April 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

 

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does

drive snapshot has a talking pe?

 

 

 

On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:

> Hi,

>             Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and

> from the various PE environments

> http://www.drivesnapshot.de

> HTH,

> Aman

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg

> Wocher

> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

> Hello all,

> I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.

> What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the

> old hard drive to the new one?

> Regards,

> Greg Wocher

>

 

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Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 


would you still happen to have those instructions?


On 4/28/2018 4:06 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Normally with Drive snapshot  there is no need for a talking environment.

When I have used Drive Snapshot in the past it simply works from withing Windows.

Basically you back up your image withing windows.

Then to restore your image you again from within Windows select the drive you want to restore to and then Windows will reboot and Drive napshot will restore the image you have selected and then reboot into that image of windows automatically.

So really it is just a case of waiting for NVDA to start up with the login prompt to alert you that the restore image process has completed.

Of course if you have a catastrophic  failure and cannot get  into any version of windows there is a problem.

The developers provide a CD rom image for booting if necessary and they did provide me with a set of instructions of what to type to restore an image – it was not that complicated but there is no talking feedback.

Personally I resigned myself to seeking sighted help if this was a problem.

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: The Wolf
Sent: 27 April 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

 

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does

drive snapshot has a talking pe?

 

 

 

On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:

> Hi,

>             Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and

> from the various PE environments

> http://www.drivesnapshot.de

> HTH,

> Aman

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg

> Wocher

> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

> Hello all,

> I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.

> What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the

> old hard drive to the new one?

> Regards,

> Greg Wocher

>

 

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https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y

 

 

 

 


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Re: what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

i've tryed both, desktop and laptop.
with the same result... nothing at all.
cheers
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 18:55 schreef Chris Mullins:

Hi Paul
You have not said what keyboard layout and NVDA modifiers are selected in the NVDA keyboard layout screen (NVDA+Control+k)

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 15:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello, i wrote already, i have connected a numberic keypad on the usb.
when i press numlock off, the digits are perfectly written.
when i press numlock on, the only thing i can do is left and right mouse
click, and that's it.
the numberic keys i cann't use for navigation around the screen.
perhaps i have bought the wrong one.
if that is the case, tell me what keypad i need if you know.
because it is a very nice and quick laptop i want to do anything to get
it work with nvda.
thanks in advance
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 10:28 schreef Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io:
Use the laptop layout or buy a numeric keypad?
Have we not had this issue before. its precisely why if I get a new
laptop not only do I want the function keys to be defaulted to
function keys, but I want a keypad as well.
I have an old dell without one and got so peed off I eventually
plugged in a keyboard.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help


hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change
sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter










Re: what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

i've done already, but the problem is that i can not navigate around the screen like i do with the numberic key block on my computer.
all the other things are possible i know there are some laptops where you can press the fn key while typing the letters jkl uio and 789 to manipulate the screen.
but it's a pitty, not here unfortunately!
 cheers paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 17:25 schreef George McCoy:

I wound up with a laptop that did the same kind of thing.  I switched NVDA to the laptop keyboard layout and, after a short learning period, I was able to do everything I did before.  So you might want to try out the laptop layout and see what happens.

Best of luck,
George

-----Original Message----- From: P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter






.


Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

Gene
 

Are you saying you don't have to open the book marks menu?  If you are saying that if you have created a book mark and then do what you suggest, that that would be faster, I haven't done enough experimentation with that method to compare.  I would think that if a browser supports the procedure well, it would work more conveniently and faster than the bookmarks menu where you have to type the first letter a number of times.  It sounds as though it might be roughly equivalent to using the firefox book marks search feature.  But I haven't experimented enough to compare the two.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

You hardly need bookmarks nowadays.  Just start typing in the search bar the name of your bookmark and then arrow down.  It’s much quicker than using bookmarks in any browser.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 15 April 2018 01:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

I don't like the way book marks are laid out and I tried using the book marks search feature but, at least in the version I tried it with, the feature appeared to be inaccessible.  I also don't like the lack of short cut and accellerator keys for some items in menus.  It's been years since Chrome has been around and the google accessibility developers still haven't implemented a short cut or accelerator command for book marks, at least as far as I know.  I haven't followed Chrome much for awhile.

 

In addition, though I don't use history much, I still don't want it displayed as a web page when I do use it. 

 

I regularly use the book marks search feature in firefox and I find it so useful that I never organize book marks any longer.  If a book mark isn't conveniently available where it is, I use the search feature. 

 

As far as settings are concerned, I'm not sure if I have an opinion about which I prefer, the firefox layout or the Chrome web page layout.  But for me, history and book marks are important enough that I use firefox.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:41 PM

Subject: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

Gene,

 

This poses an interesting debate. I’ve also changed the subject line to better reflect.

 

You say you don’t like the Chrome interface. To be very clear/honest, neither did I at first, but the more I’ve been using Chrome, the more I’m growing to swear by it!

 

I’m just curious what exactly you don’t care for. Is it the fact that things are now mainly laid out in web views instead of multi tab dialogs? If so, that through me for a bit of a loop as well at first until I got used to it, so yeah. That would be a fair statement if so.

 

Chris.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

thank you for that explanation

Hank

On 4/14/2018 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Whatever else may have used that or a similar name, F123 is an add on for both Firefox and Chrome.  I haven't used it.  I suspect that oddities encountered are the result of the add on but, without testing, that's just my suspicion.  I don't like the Chrome interface but in terms of working with web pages, I've found browse mode to work just about the same as in firefox and Internet Explorer.  Occasionally, there will be a difference, such as one screen-reader reading different text on a control because it's looking at different text in the control, but in general, I find that browse mode is browse mode. 

 

You can turn the add on offf in Chrome and still leave it installed.  It's been a long time since I've played with this, but if you want to experiment and if someone else doesn't give the procedure, I can look again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:26 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

First, it may help if instead of just saying "weird quirks" if you can tell us what specifically those things are, so we can have a better feel for how to assist.

Second, did I perhaps miss something here? I thought F123 was a really old, and all be it also, very dead last I looked, distro of Linux that was made specifically for the blind. And before anyone gets OT asking me, no, I don't know if the packages included with it would be up to date, nor how far a sudo apt[get update would take you. I don't even know if apt is included. It might use either yum, or pacman. Anyway, that's not for this list though, so I digress. Point is, it's pretty old, but as far as a Chrome extension with that name, I'm curious what this thing does.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

Hello does any one use this chrome add on?
I am noticing some weird quirks and I can't tell if it is chrome or the add on.
thanks
Hank
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Re: what can I do please help

P. Otter
 

yes, i know, if i use a full size keyboard it will work fine but it can not put in my laptop bag.
the problem is i have to use my laptop on a lot of addresses so a full size keyboard is no option for me.
that's the reason i look for a solution.
it is possible to use a numberic keypad, because it is very smal
cheers
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 17:05 schreef Louis Maher:

Hello,

 

For my laptop, I use a Logitech k360 with a dongle from Amazon.  This is a full keyboard, with a numeric keypad.  It is no wider than my Surface Pro; therefore, the keyboard easily fits into my briefcase with my computer.

 

I use an unpowered USB hub to service the dongle.

 

On this keyboard, the application key is function + upper page up.  The three buttons to the left of the power switch are, respectively, mute, volume down, and volume up. I don't know what the three buttons on the left side are.

 

I handle my portable note taking needs with an Orbit 20.

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

yes, that's the case.
paul otter
   

Op 28-4-2018 om 10:07 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Is single letter navigation turned on?

 

To toggle its nvda+shift+space

 

See if that helps

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.

 

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

 

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter

 

 

 

 

 



Re: creating A portable copy

Gene
 

You don't have to close Narrator first.  You can close it after NVDA runs and no problems are caused.  I think it should be allowed to run until NVDA is running in case any unanticipated error messages come up.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi,

I tend to always create a portable copy in a folder called nvda.

So if it's my computer, I know what drive it comes up, so I would press the windows key and R to bring up the Run menu and type without the quotes "f:\nvda\nvda.exe".

If it's someone else's computer, then I would load Narrator then plug in my drive.  Then I know what drive it comes up as, and I'd follow the same procedure, closing Narrator first.

By the way, to close Narrator, just press Control+Windows+Enter again from anywhere in Windows 10, it's a toggle.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 13 April 2018 02:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
>     Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.
>
> And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.
>
> So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
> nvda on it.
>
> Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
> when you are making it.
>
> You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
> it created on and then the folder you want it in.
>
> So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.
>
> Either on your machine or another machine?
>
> This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
> it correctly.
>
>
>
>
> On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
>> Hi Casey
>>
>>
>> When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
>> usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
>> make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
>> letter n as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
>> and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
>> Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
>> putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
>> stick.
>> It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
>> There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
>> files you get the idea.
>>
>> I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
>> USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
>> page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>> The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
>> stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
>> as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
>> computer.
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
>>> Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.
>>>
>>> Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
>>> portable copy and then  make the portable copy?
>>>
>>> And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
>>> been made?
>>>
>>> Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
>>> the portable copy?
>>>
>>> I would like to know the best way to go about this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>










Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

I wander if you could use the talking windows pe to get that working.

On 4/28/2018 11:06 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Normally with Drive snapshot there is no need for a talking environment.
When I have used Drive Snapshot in the past it simply works from withing Windows.
Basically you back up your image withing windows.
Then to restore your image you again from within Windows select the drive you want to restore to and then Windows will reboot and Drive napshot will restore the image you have selected and then reboot into that image of windows automatically.
So really it is just a case of waiting for NVDA to start up with the login prompt to alert you that the restore image process has completed.
Of course if you have a catastrophic failure and cannot get into any version of windows there is a problem.
The developers provide a CD rom image for booting if necessary and they did provide me with a set of instructions of what to type to restore an image – it was not that complicated but there is no talking feedback.
Personally I resigned myself to seeking sighted help if this was a problem.
David Griffith




My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: The Wolf
Sent: 27 April 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does
drive snapshot has a talking pe?



On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and
from the various PE environments
http://www.drivesnapshot.de
HTH,
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg
Wocher
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Hello all,
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.
What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the
old hard drive to the new one?

Regards,
Greg Wocher









Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

Steve Nutt
 

You hardly need bookmarks nowadays.  Just start typing in the search bar the name of your bookmark and then arrow down.  It’s much quicker than using bookmarks in any browser.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 15 April 2018 01:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

I don't like the way book marks are laid out and I tried using the book marks search feature but, at least in the version I tried it with, the feature appeared to be inaccessible.  I also don't like the lack of short cut and accellerator keys for some items in menus.  It's been years since Chrome has been around and the google accessibility developers still haven't implemented a short cut or accelerator command for book marks, at least as far as I know.  I haven't followed Chrome much for awhile.

 

In addition, though I don't use history much, I still don't want it displayed as a web page when I do use it. 

 

I regularly use the book marks search feature in firefox and I find it so useful that I never organize book marks any longer.  If a book mark isn't conveniently available where it is, I use the search feature. 

 

As far as settings are concerned, I'm not sure if I have an opinion about which I prefer, the firefox layout or the Chrome web page layout.  But for me, history and book marks are important enough that I use firefox.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:41 PM

Subject: Chrome's interface was: RE: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

Gene,

 

This poses an interesting debate. I’ve also changed the subject line to better reflect.

 

You say you don’t like the Chrome interface. To be very clear/honest, neither did I at first, but the more I’ve been using Chrome, the more I’m growing to swear by it!

 

I’m just curious what exactly you don’t care for. Is it the fact that things are now mainly laid out in web views instead of multi tab dialogs? If so, that through me for a bit of a loop as well at first until I got used to it, so yeah. That would be a fair statement if so.

 

Chris.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

thank you for that explanation

Hank

On 4/14/2018 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Whatever else may have used that or a similar name, F123 is an add on for both Firefox and Chrome.  I haven't used it.  I suspect that oddities encountered are the result of the add on but, without testing, that's just my suspicion.  I don't like the Chrome interface but in terms of working with web pages, I've found browse mode to work just about the same as in firefox and Internet Explorer.  Occasionally, there will be a difference, such as one screen-reader reading different text on a control because it's looking at different text in the control, but in general, I find that browse mode is browse mode. 

 

You can turn the add on offf in Chrome and still leave it installed.  It's been a long time since I've played with this, but if you want to experiment and if someone else doesn't give the procedure, I can look again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:26 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

 

First, it may help if instead of just saying "weird quirks" if you can tell us what specifically those things are, so we can have a better feel for how to assist.

Second, did I perhaps miss something here? I thought F123 was a really old, and all be it also, very dead last I looked, distro of Linux that was made specifically for the blind. And before anyone gets OT asking me, no, I don't know if the packages included with it would be up to date, nor how far a sudo apt[get update would take you. I don't even know if apt is included. It might use either yum, or pacman. Anyway, that's not for this list though, so I digress. Point is, it's pretty old, but as far as a Chrome extension with that name, I'm curious what this thing does.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] any one on here use f123 chrome extention?

Hello does any one use this chrome add on?
I am noticing some weird quirks and I can't tell if it is chrome or the add on.
thanks
Hank
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Re: creating A portable copy

Steve Nutt
 

No, it was Windows+enter. If you did Control+enter for example in Word, you would force a new page, so they couldn't use that for Narrator.

All the best

Steve

All the best

Steve
All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 13 April 2018 04:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi, Gene NZ,

I think it was control enter in earlier versions of windows 10 if I'm not mistaken.


Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.




Re: creating A portable copy

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I tend to always create a portable copy in a folder called nvda.

So if it's my computer, I know what drive it comes up, so I would press the windows key and R to bring up the Run menu and type without the quotes "f:\nvda\nvda.exe".

If it's someone else's computer, then I would load Narrator then plug in my drive. Then I know what drive it comes up as, and I'd follow the same procedure, closing Narrator first.

By the way, to close Narrator, just press Control+Windows+Enter again from anywhere in Windows 10, it's a toggle.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 13 April 2018 02:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.