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an issue about the NVDA 2018.2 and instent translate addon

Mert Anlar
 

Hi fokes
since I installed the NVDA 2018.2 update, I cannot use the Instent
translate addon. setting up it's shortcuts, and also the languages, for
example, from En to TR, but it automatically sets from auto to TR
and, until I restart the NVDA, it doesn't allows me to open any NVDA
dialog box. i'm getting the following error.
An NVDA settings dialog is already open. Please close it first.
note that using the latest instent translate dev 4.1
here is the log
ERROR - unhandled exception (15:41:23.148):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
"C:\Users\Mert\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\instantTranslate\globalPlugins\instantTranslate\interface.py",
line 106, in onOk
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 16711, in __getattr__
PyDeadObjectError: The C++ part of the Choice object has been deleted,
attribute access no longer allowed.


Re: NVDA and Login screen

 

in the general settings (NVDA + CTRL + G) is a button to use the current settings on the Windows login screen and other secure screens.


Op 15-6-2018 om 14:20 schreef Pascal Lambert:

Hi,
I encountered the same issue. Please, how do you set up NVDA to copy over
pref to the admin settings?
Many thanks.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Login screen

What it may be is nvda using 1core voices on login screens, you need to set
nvdas preffs to copy over to admin settings



On 6/15/2018 8:17 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,


Since the latest update, I find Narrator speaks on the PC login screen
before Windows starts up even though I have NVDA set to do this. I have
searched through Narrator's settings and I cannot see that there is a
setting there to prevent it from coming on during the PC login. Yet NVDA
does not com up until I login.


Is there anything I can do?


All the best,


Cearbhall


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Re: NVDA and Login screen

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,
I encountered the same issue. Please, how do you set up NVDA to copy over
pref to the admin settings?
Many thanks.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Login screen

What it may be is nvda using 1core voices on login screens, you need to set
nvdas preffs to copy over to admin settings



On 6/15/2018 8:17 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,



Since the latest update, I find Narrator speaks on the PC login screen
before Windows starts up even though I have NVDA set to do this. I have
searched through Narrator's settings and I cannot see that there is a
setting there to prevent it from coming on during the PC login. Yet NVDA
does not com up until I login.



Is there anything I can do?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: Re waterfox

Chris
 

Its an invalid security certificate click on advanced for more info

 

So basically the certificate has expired and the site admin is asleep on the job 😃

 

Go to the official site

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/

 

 

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improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not

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I tied to download the new version.

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Bug in 2018 Braille

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

Using the U.S. Grade 2 table and NVDA 2018.2 I have observed the following. When a word begins with a capital letter
both the dot 6 capital sign and the dot 7 on the letter itself are shown. This does not happen if the letter is part of
a
contraction. For eexample, If the word is Tooth dot 6 preceeds the translation and the beginning t also has dot 7. If
the word is That the translation has dot 6 poreceding thr T that contracts that, and the T has no dot 7.

This version of NVDA uses liblouis 2.4. The latest release is liblouis 2/6/0. Hopefully the bug has been corrected in
this release.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

Rui Fontes
 

Tell them to use W3C guidelines...

Rui


Às 07:47 de 15/06/2018, Rob Hudson escreveu:

Recently my credit union changed its website rendering most of the online banking services inaccessible to NVDA. According to sighted people Ii had look at the page, all the services have been moved to little graphical icons at the top of the screen.
I was wondering if I could get someone from NVAccess to remote into my machine, look at the website, and then tell me what I can pass on to the bank's i t people about fixing it to make it more readable for screen readers. And how i would go about setting something like that up.


Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

Michael Chopra
 

I am also here in New Zealand and I find that my bank that I am with do a really good job. I am with ANZ. I find the internet banking website a bit hard to navigate, but it's fine.

Thanks.

From Michael.

On 15/06/18 22:32, Antony Stone wrote:
Last time I moved banks (about 2 years ago) all my standing orders and direct
debits were transferred automatically for me as part of the process.

Antony.

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wrote:

TSB, Say no more. Here in the UK so much has gone wrong in that bank to do
with customers not being able to get their money etc that the boss was
called to the house of Commons last week to explain why their IT update had
been so badly handled. if they are the same company, then it explains a
lot.

How you proceed, well I guess you could vote with your money and go
elsewhere but the problems of transferring all automated pay in and out
bits could send one prematurely grey or bald!
Brian


Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

Antony Stone
 

Last time I moved banks (about 2 years ago) all my standing orders and direct
debits were transferred automatically for me as part of the process.

Antony.

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TSB, Say no more. Here in the UK so much has gone wrong in that bank to do
with customers not being able to get their money etc that the boss was
called to the house of Commons last week to explain why their IT update had
been so badly handled. if they are the same company, then it explains a
lot.

How you proceed, well I guess you could vote with your money and go
elsewhere but the problems of transferring all automated pay in and out
bits could send one prematurely grey or bald!
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Re: NVDA not speaking my images

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Github that is, spellchecker is being silly again. Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not speaking my images


I think most if not all of the devs are blind, so you may find it a bit difficult to get the issue over. Try a ticket on gather if you think its wrong. All I know is that most graphics with alt tags give a description of the graphic, according to how detailed the site builder wanted to get of course.
Normally the big messes occur in javascript intense sites.
I'm not up on html myself, but you need to test the site in different browsers too.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kinney" <jim@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking my images


Hi.

I'm new to NVDA but am committed to developing websites that are fully accessible. I used a custom font with svg logos I uploaded to the font. I have used every tag I know about but NVDA doesn't read them. If I highlight the same area on my iPhone and ask it to speak my selection if speaks the information about the image. I'm hoping you can give me some guidance about what I need to add to the code or perhaps a perhaps a setting to change in NVDA.

I made a screen print that shows the area and the code behind it. I believe this will give you all the information you would need to help me. The screen print is at:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NVDA-reader-question.png

I also record my iPhone speaking the information and have loaded that short video here:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/iPhone-speaks-the-image-info.MOV

Let me know if you need any additional information. I really appreciate your help with this.

Jim






Re: NVDA not speaking my images

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I think most if not all of the devs are blind, so you may find it a bit difficult to get the issue over. Try a ticket on gather if you think its wrong. All I know is that most graphics with alt tags give a description of the graphic, according to how detailed the site builder wanted to get of course.
Normally the big messes occur in javascript intense sites.
I'm not up on html myself, but you need to test the site in different browsers too.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kinney" <jim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking my images


Hi.

I'm new to NVDA but am committed to developing websites that are fully accessible. I used a custom font with svg logos I uploaded to the font. I have used every tag I know about but NVDA doesn't read them. If I highlight the same area on my iPhone and ask it to speak my selection if speaks the information about the image. I'm hoping you can give me some guidance about what I need to add to the code or perhaps a perhaps a setting to change in NVDA.

I made a screen print that shows the area and the code behind it. I believe this will give you all the information you would need to help me. The screen print is at:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NVDA-reader-question.png

I also record my iPhone speaking the information and have loaded that short video here:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/iPhone-speaks-the-image-info.MOV

Let me know if you need any additional information. I really appreciate your help with this.

Jim


Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

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TSB, Say no more. Here in the UK so much has gone wrong in that bank to do with customers not being able to get their money etc that the boss was called to the house of Commons last week to explain why their IT update had been so badly handled. if they are the same company, then it explains a lot.

How you proceed, well I guess you could vote with your money and go elsewhere but the problems of transferring all automated pay in and out bits could send one prematurely grey or bald!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inaccessible Banking Website


Hi


I am not from nvaccess but i had some thing similar happen to my bank
here in new zealand.

It was our TSB bank.


Where the site was accessible with lists etc they changed pretty much
all of it to graphics. The only way i could navigate the account
section was to use the letter G for graphics on the page.

This was in the accounts section where i do my banking etc. When you
also used the elements list to see if there were any links in those
graphics there were not.


They also took out the formatted headings which they had made into graphics.


So i went through there website in the account section through the
different areas there and put it into a email.

What they had to do.


I did also say i use a screen reader and am blind to do my banking also
gave them a link to the nvda screen reader to test with.


I also pointed out the places where there were graphics they needed the
alt text for nvda to see those and to bring up in the elements list same
with what used to be headings which was then turned to graphics they
were then formatted back to hadings etc with alt text etc.


Part of there reasoning to was they wanted to make it easier to use on
tablets but then they also found out things did not come up right on the
tablets etc with colors etc.


they also did a text only website but i could never remember the address
and i did not want it. I think now it the text side of it is now used
for tablets etc.


Any how they fixed the stuff i pointed out and am happy this happened a
few years back.


They done another update last year and pointed outed a few things and
they were fixed as well. for example a button that was a graphic so i
got them to make it into a button so nvda could see it.


Gene nz





On 6/15/2018 6:47 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Recently my credit union changed its website rendering most of the online banking services inaccessible to NVDA. According to sighted people Ii had look at the page, all the services have been moved to little graphical icons at the top of the screen.
I was wondering if I could get someone from NVAccess to remote into my machine, look at the website, and then tell me what I can pass on to the bank's i t people about fixing it to make it more readable for screen readers. And how i would go about setting something like that up.





Re waterfox

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Anyone know what this is all about?
Your connection is not secure
The owner of staging.waterfoxproject.org has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not connected to this website.
Learn more.

I tied to download the new version.
Brian


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Re: NVDA and Login screen

 

What it may be is nvda using 1core voices on login screens, you need to set nvdas preffs to copy over to admin settings

On 6/15/2018 8:17 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,


Since the latest update, I find Narrator speaks on the PC login screen
before Windows starts up even though I have NVDA set to do this. I have
searched through Narrator's settings and I cannot see that there is a
setting there to prevent it from coming on during the PC login. Yet NVDA
does not com up until I login.


Is there anything I can do?


All the best,


Cearbhall


m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...






Re: NVDA and Login screen

 

Are you sure it's Narrator? In NVDA 2018.2, the OneCore voices are used by default in Windows 10, these are the same voices as those used in Narrator.


Op 15-6-2018 om 10:17 schreef Cearbhall O'Meadhra:

Hi,

 

Since the latest update, I find Narrator speaks on the PC login screen before Windows starts up even though I have NVDA set to do this. I have searched through Narrators settings and I cannot see that there is a setting there to prevent it  from coming on during the PC login. Yet NVDA does not com up until I login.

 

Is there anything I can do?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 



Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I am not from nvaccess but i had some thing similar happen to my bank
here in new zealand.

It was our TSB bank.


Where the site was accessible with lists etc they changed pretty much
all of it to graphics.  The only way i could navigate the account
section was to use the letter G for graphics on the page.

This was in the accounts section where i do my banking etc. When you
also used the elements list to see if there were any links in those
graphics there were not.


They also took out the formatted headings which they had made into graphics.


So i went through there website in the account section through the
different areas there and put it into a email.

What they had to do.


I did also say i use a screen reader and am blind to do my banking also
gave them a link to the nvda screen reader to test with.


I also pointed out the places where there were graphics they needed the
alt text for nvda to see those and to bring up in the elements list same
with what used to be headings which was then turned to graphics  they
were then formatted back to hadings etc with alt text etc.


Part of there reasoning to was they wanted to make it easier to use on
tablets but then they also found out things did not come up right on the
tablets etc with colors etc.


they also did a text only website but i could never remember the address
and i did not want it. I think now it the text side of it is now used
for tablets etc.


Any how they fixed the stuff i pointed out and am happy this happened a
few years back.


They done another update last year and pointed outed a few things and
they were fixed as well. for example a button that was a graphic so i
got them to make it into a button so nvda could see it.


Gene nz

On 6/15/2018 6:47 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Recently my credit union changed its website rendering most of the online banking services inaccessible to NVDA. According to sighted people Ii had look at the page, all the services have been moved to little graphical icons at the top of the screen.
I was wondering if I could get someone from NVAccess to remote into my machine, look at the website, and then tell me what I can pass on to the bank's i t people about fixing it to make it more readable for screen readers. And how i would go about setting something like that up.



NVDA and Login screen

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Since the latest update, I find Narrator speaks on the PC login screen before Windows starts up even though I have NVDA set to do this. I have searched through Narrators settings and I cannot see that there is a setting there to prevent it  from coming on during the PC login. Yet NVDA does not com up until I login.

 

Is there anything I can do?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


NVDA not speaking my images

James Kinney
 

Hi. 

I'm new to NVDA but am committed to developing websites that are fully accessible.  I used a custom font with svg logos I uploaded to the font.  I have used every tag I know about but NVDA doesn't read them.  If I highlight the same area on my iPhone and ask it to speak my selection if speaks the information about the image.  I'm hoping you can give me some guidance about what I need to add to the code or perhaps a perhaps a setting to change in NVDA.

I made a screen print that shows the area and the code behind it.  I believe this will give you all the information you would need to help me.  The screen print is at:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NVDA-reader-question.png

I also record my iPhone speaking the information and have loaded that short video here:

https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/iPhone-speaks-the-image-info.MOV

Let me know if you need any additional information.  I really appreciate your help with this.

Jim


Re: Inaccessible Banking Website

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Is it a well known bank? do they offer a mobile version by any chance?

I cannot help as I have just about had enough of web builders making things worse when they redo their sites for no good reason at all. I wonder if its a job creation scheme for web developers.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Inaccessible Banking Website


Recently my credit union changed its website rendering most of the online banking services inaccessible to NVDA. According to sighted people Ii had look at the page, all the services have been moved to little graphical icons at the top of the screen.
I was wondering if I could get someone from NVAccess to remote into my machine, look at the website, and then tell me what I can pass on to the bank's i t people about fixing it to make it more readable for screen readers. And how i would go about setting something like that up.


Re: Question Re: NVDA 2018.2, benefits for Win7 users?

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Well like last time, nvda 2018.1 was on 7, but if you wanted 2018.1.1 you had to get it manually, as the fix only was on windows10, though with hindsight from the experiences recently, I think this was a bad way to go on as I imagine this is why some got the .2 and some did not!
I got 1.1 here so my update worked straight off this time.
As for what is better, there are a lot fo things better for windows 7.
The registration tool the different format of preferences to name but two that now seems to work very well. Not sure what triggers the registration tool on master version though. It seems totally random here.


Brian

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Re: NVDA 2018.2, benefits for Win7 users?


Don't understand what is meant for beneficial for updating software.
I use Win 7, and unless bugs wereidentified, I do update software to the latest version.
Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io 於 15/6/2018 11:24 寫道:
Hi,
I just read the "what's new" information for v2018.2 and it sounds like the benefits in the new release mainly apply to users of Win10. Is this true, or am I missing something in what I read?

For those of you using Win7 on any of your machines, do you find upgrading to this new version of NVDA is beneficial?

Thank you for your thoughts,
LM



Re: updating NVDA under Help

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I have mine turned on. Interesting as the last update I had actually did do something odd as I mentioned. I would not say that .net should not be involved in nvda from what I can tell.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 12:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] updating NVDA under Help


I just updated NVDA from my system running Windows 7 with no problem. I did get experience the errors others have until I installed all the security updates, including Dotnet. Those experiencing this under Win7 might want to run Windows Updates, install all Important updates, then give it another go.
.