Hi Anthony
I assume you are referring to Windows 10 App Essentials. You can force an update by going to the NVDA menu using NVDA+n, then activate preferences. In the Preferences menu you will find an entry for Windows 10 App Essentials. Activate this, tab to Check for updates and press enter.

Cheers

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: 11 August 2018 13:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows essential update

But, can you please explain to me what I should to update again?
Thanks in advance

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 11 August 2018 12:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows essential update

well just update again.



On 8/11/2018 7:19 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello gene

Last thursday I got the update of the windows essential for NVDA, but by mistake instead I pressed alt-y to install it, I pressed the escape key.

So do I have to do that update manually now? and if I have to do that from where I should do it?

Thanks in advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 11 August 2018 01:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: windows essential update



I don't have a suggestion about how to eliminate the behavior but I suspect you are asking because you reboot regularly, perhaps once a day. This is unnecessary. You should reboot from time to time, but you may not have to do so for many days or perhaps a seven day week or more. You can experiment and see at what point the system develops instability or odd problems start to occur. You can use hibernate and eliminate the problem except when you do a full reboot.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...>

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:36 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA



Well I have the same issues on my systems one of which doesn't have
anything, so it all depends on the order things start, sometimes
things start, sometimes nvda starts just to early for the desktop,
sometimes well it doesn't start but then it will if I wait.



On 8/11/2018 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period
when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a
pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered
that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine.
although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took
advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a
video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all
went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of
this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop
and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any
other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows
what is causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader,
the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader,
with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the
link activation makes the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening,
and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd
definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated
space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do
nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for
the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

Hi Anthony
I assume you are referring to Windows 10 App Essentials. You can force an update by going to the NVDA menu using NVDA+n, then activate preferences. In the Preferences menu you will find an entry for Windows 10 App Essentials. Activate this, tab to Check for updates and press enter.

Cheers

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: 11 August 2018 13:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows essential update

But, can you please explain to me what I should to update again?
Thanks in advance

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 11 August 2018 12:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows essential update

well just update again.



On 8/11/2018 7:19 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello gene

Last thursday I got the update of the windows essential for NVDA, but by mistake instead I pressed alt-y to install it, I pressed the escape key.

So do I have to do that update manually now? and if I have to do that from where I should do it?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 11 August 2018 01:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: windows essential update


I don't have a suggestion about how to eliminate the behavior but I suspect you are asking because you reboot regularly, perhaps once a day. This is unnecessary. You should reboot from time to time, but you may not have to do so for many days or perhaps a seven day week or more. You can experiment and see at what point the system develops instability or odd problems start to occur. You can use hibernate and eliminate the problem except when you do a full reboot.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...>

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:36 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Well I have the same issues on my systems one of which doesn't have
anything, so it all depends on the order things start, sometimes
things start, sometimes nvda starts just to early for the desktop,
sometimes well it doesn't start but then it will if I wait.



On 8/11/2018 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period
when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a
pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered
that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine.
although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took
advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a
video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all
went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of
this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop
and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any
other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows
what is causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader,
the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader,
with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the
link activation makes the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening,
and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd
definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated
space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do
nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for
the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

Now a while ago it was suggested that I try the accessible podcast suite from webbie. Well I have just about given up.
For a start, it has to be made to download the podcasts. I have 14 in my list and most of them it scrambled.
My needs may be a little peculiar, having been used to Juice, which auto downloads all the podcasts in the links on a timed rota and indeed on turn on if you like. it has all the files stored in mp3 format and they can easily be copied out and twiddled with so I can put them on our local talking newspaper.
Accessible seems to play them from the web link, and only when you ask it to does it go and download. it seems to be all or nothing in all feeds and some blatantly do not work. IE the nature magazine podcast ends up in a temp folder of IE for some reason, not in the folder created for it in the documents area of windows.
Audioboom used by the RNIB are downloaded to the right place but the file names get scrambled with the .mp3 in the middle of the file name which although they play in the podcast player they need to be renamed to play anywhere else.
Only the BBC podcasts seem to work.The ones we do using feedburner often get truncated at the start for no good reason, as if part of the download was skipped.
So, I think its bin time for accessible podcast.
Given my requirements of clean good auto downloads in files one can play outside of the podcast downloader and that it has to work with nvda. would anyone care to suggest something paid for or free for windows that actually ruddy well works for everything?
I'm losing my hair!
Brian

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Hello gene

Last thursday I got the update of the windows essential for NVDA, but by mistake instead I pressed alt-y to install it, I pressed the escape key.

So do I have to do that update manually now? and if I have to do that from where I should do it?

Thanks in advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 11 August 2018 01:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: windows essential update



I don't have a suggestion about how to eliminate the behavior but I suspect you are asking because you reboot regularly, perhaps once a day. This is unnecessary. You should reboot from time to time, but you may not have to do so for many days or perhaps a seven day week or more. You can experiment and see at what point the system develops instability or odd problems start to occur. You can use hibernate and eliminate the problem except when you do a full reboot.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...>

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:36 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA



Well I have the same issues on my systems one of which doesn't have
anything, so it all depends on the order things start, sometimes
things start, sometimes nvda starts just to early for the desktop,
sometimes well it doesn't start but then it will if I wait.



On 8/11/2018 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period
when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a
pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered
that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine.
although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took
advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a
video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all
went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of
this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop
and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any
other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows
what is causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader,
the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader,
with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the
link activation makes the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening,
and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd
definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated
space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do
nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for
the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

Maybe some can, but I prefer a reboot, given that I have an ssd with windows on it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


I don't have a suggestion about how to eliminate the behavior but I suspect you are asking because you reboot regularly, perhaps once a day. This is unnecessary. You should reboot from time to time, but you may not have to do so for many days or perhaps a seven day week or more. You can experiment and see at what point the system develops instability or odd problems start to occur. You can use hibernate and eliminate the problem except when you do a full reboot.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Well I have the same issues on my systems one of which doesn't have
anything, so it all depends on the order things start, sometimes things
start, sometimes nvda starts just to early for the desktop, sometimes
well it doesn't start but then it will if I wait.



On 8/11/2018 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period
when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a
pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that
most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine.
although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took
advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a
video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all went
away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this
slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop
and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any
other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows
what is causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the
end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with
no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link
activation makes the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and
what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd
definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated
space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do
nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for
the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

Chris, Brian, Sarah,

 

I found the source of the problem!

 

In the Ease of Access settings I had enabled both Jaws and NVDA to speak on the sign-in screen. JAWS was first, so I suppose it took control of the dialog. I found the miserable voice in the JAWS voice settings where MS SAPI 5 was set to a rate of 50 using David, which turned out to be the very voice that I was searching for. Anyway, there was no point in having two screen readers speak on the sign-in screen so I turned them both off. When I restarted I was then blind” audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence. I then went to NVDA and found that the start NVDA in the start-up window was now turned off – I presume that this was as a result of changing the setting in the Ease of Access setting. I enabled NVDA alone at sign-up and now NVDA has control of the start-up screen with Eloquence speaking!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 08:45 AM, Gene wrote:

Why not enable NVdA before rebooting after turning the setting off in the ease of access center?

It strikes me that troubleshooting steps were being described in detail, not the final and permanent state of affairs.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 08:45 AM, Gene wrote:

Why not enable NVdA before rebooting after turning the setting off in the ease of access center?

It strikes me that troubleshooting steps were being described in detail, not the final and permanent state of affairs.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Chris,

Yes, you are right. When the screen reader is set to start at the logon screen, the check box for that screen reader is present in the Ease of Access settings dialog. However, when the switch is unchecked in the screen reader’s own settings, the actual check box disappears from the Ease of Access settings dialog.

This means that the only way to turn on the switch to make the screen reader speak on the logon screen is to do so from within the screen reader itself and cannot be done in the Ease of Access Centre. However, to stop the screen reader from speaking during the logon screen, this can be done in either of two ways: In the Ease of Access setting or within the screen reader itself!

Cearbhall that’s great you found those settings and fixed your issue

They must be well hidden  as I cant find them anywhere, I know they use to be there, but no longer for me.

Chris, Brian, Sarah,

I found the source of the problem!

In the Ease of Access settings I had enabled both Jaws and NVDA to speak on the sign-in screen. JAWS was first, so I suppose it took control of the dialog. I found the miserable voice in the JAWS voice settings where MS SAPI 5 was set to a rate of 50 using David, which turned out to be the very voice that I was searching for. Anyway, there was no point in having two screen readers speak on the sign-in screen so I turned them both off. When I restarted I was then blind” audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence. I then went to NVDA and found that the start NVDA in the start-up window was now turned off – I presume that this was as a result of changing the setting in the Ease of Access setting. I enabled NVDA alone at sign-up and now NVDA has control of the start-up screen with Eloquence speaking!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
--

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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

hellow my all friend please tell me I want auto tuning my voice but
actually I could not find A correct application/softwear for window
7/8 32&64 bit I am try following tool but I can not success I have
try adaucity with Gsnap and antares auto tune effect I have also
try adobe addition but these are not accessible with screen reader so
I am kindly request to you please tel me how to do this. because it is
urgent require for me. but could not suggest app because I am want for
windows any one can provide this softwear with crack I hope hardly
thank you I am wating your responce please provide soon please give
your commant but not like.

The desired setting could have been turned on with no loss of accessibility and no impairment of the test being done.

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Didn't you say that a setting was checked in the Ease of Access Center that you unchecked and then had no screen-reader set to start at bootup?  It appears that Narrator was being used when that setting was set and no other screen-reader was set to run.  My point is that if you had unchecked the setting in the ease of access center, then checked one screen=-reader to run at startup, then if the results were unsatisfactory, you could have unchecked that one and then checked the other one.  You could have then tested each screen-reader without losing access to the login screen.  That would have been preferable to having no screen-reader start at boot up, then, after booting up, setting one to start.  If the results of my method had been unsatisfactory, you could have tried your method but if you can test something without loss of accessibility and have the results be as good, that is preferable. 

Jean,

I was testing to see whether the screen reader was the source of the voice. If you recall, I had tried four or five other options and none pointed conclusively to what was causing the voice to appear. Unchecking all screen readers proved that the screen reader setting was controlling the voice. After that, it was a process of elimination to find which screen reader was the source, etc.

Chris, Brian, Sarah,

I found the source of the problem!

In the Ease of Access settings I had enabled both Jaws and NVDA to speak on the sign-in screen. JAWS was first, so I suppose it took control of the dialog. I found the miserable voice in the JAWS voice settings where MS SAPI 5 was set to a rate of 50 using David, which turned out to be the very voice that I was searching for. Anyway, there was no point in having two screen readers speak on the sign-in screen so I turned them both off. When I restarted I was then blind” audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence. I then went to NVDA and found that the start NVDA in the start-up window was now turned off – I presume that this was as a result of changing the setting in the Ease of Access setting. I enabled NVDA alone at sign-up and now NVDA has control of the start-up screen with Eloquence speaking!

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
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But, can you please explain to me what I should to update again?
Thanks in advance

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: 11 August 2018 12:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows essential update

well just update again.



On 8/11/2018 7:19 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello gene

Last thursday I got the update of the windows essential for NVDA, but by mistake instead I pressed alt-y to install it, I pressed the escape key.

So do I have to do that update manually now? and if I have to do that from where I should do it?

Thanks in advance

Anthony


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 11 August 2018 01:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: windows essential update


I don't have a suggestion about how to eliminate the behavior but I suspect you are asking because you reboot regularly, perhaps once a day. This is unnecessary. You should reboot from time to time, but you may not have to do so for many days or perhaps a seven day week or more. You can experiment and see at what point the system develops instability or odd problems start to occur. You can use hibernate and eliminate the problem except when you do a full reboot.


Gene

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:36 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Well I have the same issues on my systems one of which doesn't have
anything, so it all depends on the order things start, sometimes
things start, sometimes nvda starts just to early for the desktop,
sometimes well it doesn't start but then it will if I wait.



On 8/11/2018 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period
when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a
pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered
that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine.
although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took
advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a
video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all
went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of
this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop
and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any
other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows
what is causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader,
the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader,
with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the
link activation makes the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening,
and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd
definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated
space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do
nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for
the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

hellow my all friend please tell me I want auto tuning my voice but
actually I could not find A correct application/softwear for window
7/8 32&64 bit I am try following tool but I can not success I have
try adaucity with Gsnap and antares auto tune effect I have also
try adobe addition but these are not accessible with screen reader so
I am kindly request to you please tel me how to do this. because it is
urgent require for me. but could not suggest app because I am want for
windows any one can provide this softwear with crack I hope hardly
thank you I am wating your responce please provide soon please give
your commant but not like.