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Re: Win10 startup and NVDA

Gene

#45125

If you ask questions that aren't answered, that's probably because no one knows the answer. It may happen that a question may be overlooked by someone so some people send a question again after a day or in case someone sees it who didn't see it before.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:43 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Thanks Brian. At least you take the time to answer. I asked several questions on this forum that remained unanswered.
Blessings
Pascal
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine. although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and
NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any other
suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is
causing the problem.

               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end
result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object
having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes
the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what
NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely
think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses
or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since
nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking
from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Re: Win10 startup and NVDA

Pascal Lambert

#45124

Thanks Brian.  At least you take the time to answer.  I asked several questions on this forum that remained unanswered.
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine. although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a video driver without asking. I thought these  display drivers all went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and 
NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size?  Any other 
suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian 
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is 
causing the problem.

               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I 
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end 
result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object 
having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes 
the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what 
NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely 
think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses 
or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since 
nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking 
from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for 
all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Re: Does anyone here use EaseUS To Do Backup?

Brian Vogel

#45123

I do not typically do "bump posts," but I'm making an exception as complete radio silence is quite atypical and I'm wondering if my original query, pasted below, might have landed in the cyber bitbucket the first time around.

--------------------------------------
. . . if so, can you explain to me how you navigate the main controls for setting up a system image backup, file backup, or disk partition backup (among the other options there).

I have no problem once a backup is actually set up navigating all of the controls to either recover from it, run the backup again, or control advanced options for said backup, but I cannot seem to navigate the main control column to the left side of the screen where one selects the kind of backup one wishes to set up.

-------------------------------

I guess if it's radio silence again I can safely presume the answer to the question posed by the topic itself is, "No."

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel

Re: screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Rusty Perez

#45122

Thanks Joseph. I've got it working.
I thought my nvda was up to date, but I was running 18.1.1. Now it
works since I've updated.

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On 8/10/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Which NVDA version do you have? And from Add-ons Manager, is Screen Curtain
shown as "enabled", not "installed"? If you see that Screen Curtain is shown
as "installed", then looks like the add-on install file has become corrupt.
If it is shown as "enabled", chances are that something went wrong when NVDA
was preparing to load this add-on.
First, try restarting your computer. For most cases, this should resolve the
problem. If it does not, please send me a log so I can find out what's up.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Hi folks,
I've installed screen curtain on my win10 laptop.
When I go in to the addons manager, it says screen curtain is installed, but
screen curtain doesn't appear in any other menues. It's not in the tools
menu where I would turn it on, and it's not in the gestures sections where I
can set a keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Rusty

Re: screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Rusty Perez

#45121

Hi Joseph,
Thanks for your help. I thought that nvda was up to date, but I was
running 18.1.1. Once I updated, Screen Curtain appears in the menues
and works as expected. :)

thanks!
Rusty

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On 8/10/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Which NVDA version do you have? And from Add-ons Manager, is Screen Curtain
shown as "enabled", not "installed"? If you see that Screen Curtain is shown
as "installed", then looks like the add-on install file has become corrupt.
If it is shown as "enabled", chances are that something went wrong when NVDA
was preparing to load this add-on.
First, try restarting your computer. For most cases, this should resolve the
problem. If it does not, please send me a log so I can find out what's up.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Hi folks,
I've installed screen curtain on my win10 laptop.
When I go in to the addons manager, it says screen curtain is installed, but
screen curtain doesn't appear in any other menues. It's not in the tools
menu where I would turn it on, and it's not in the gestures sections where I
can set a keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Rusty

Re: Win10 startup and NVDA

Brian's Mail list account

#45120

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine. although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a video driver without asking. I thought these  display drivers all went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size?  Any other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem.

              Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes the page scroll to.

               If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

               It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

          ~ Richard Dehmel

Re: The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Brian's Mail list account

#45119

This is not what he was asking though. I think he was asking why a word is presumed to have ended by an apostrophe and then on the typing of the last letter and space spoken again.
its debatable which is totally correct. In one case, ie Jaws, it seems to look for a space to say the preceding word, but on nvda it seems any punctuation also invokes speech. I actually like it as it is, but it can be odd to those used to other ways.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Hi

If you use the nvda key + 2 key it will turn speak typed characters either on and off. If you use the nvda key + 3 it will either turn the speak typed words on or off. The nvda key is a modifier key which is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key..

You could also try using the nvda key + letter P. This will toggle between how much punctuation is spoken.

Gene nz

On 8/10/2018 4:07 AM, Wilco wrote:

Hi,

I’m a relative NVDA newby just trying to navigate my way through the transition from JAWS.

One thing I’m struggling with a bit is the way NVDA speaks as I am typing. For instance, if I want to type a word with an apostrophe in it, as soon as I hit the apostrophe key, NVDA announces the word to that point, and then announces the rest of the word when I press space at the end.

So don’t is  spoken as don t, which is kind of off-putting when word processing.

Is there any way around this?

I have NVDA set to only announce words when I type.

Also, if possible I’d quite like NVDA to announce punctuation that I type, but not punctuation as I read. So I might want the reassurance of hearing NVDA say period or question mark when I enter them at the end of a sentence, but I wouldn’t want it to read out every full stop and question mark in text that I am simple browsing or reading.

Any thoughts welcome.

Cheers, Will.

Re: screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Joseph Lee

#45118

Hi,
Which NVDA version do you have? And from Add-ons Manager, is Screen Curtain shown as "enabled", not "installed"? If you see that Screen Curtain is shown as "installed", then looks like the add-on install file has become corrupt. If it is shown as "enabled", chances are that something went wrong when NVDA was preparing to load this add-on.
First, try restarting your computer. For most cases, this should resolve the problem. If it does not, please send me a log so I can find out what's up.
Cheers,
Joseph

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Hi folks,
I've installed screen curtain on my win10 laptop.
When I go in to the addons manager, it says screen curtain is installed, but screen curtain doesn't appear in any other menues. It's not in the tools menu where I would turn it on, and it's not in the gestures sections where I can set a keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Rusty

screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Rusty Perez

#45117

Hi folks,
I've installed screen curtain on my win10 laptop.
When I go in to the addons manager, it says screen curtain is
installed, but screen curtain doesn't appear in any other menues. It's
not in the tools menu where I would turn it on, and it's not in the
gestures sections where I can set a keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Rusty

Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Larry Wang

#45116

List,

Auto languag detection built in is not quite useful ,since it;s based on web page .But the experimental function in vocalizer is quite handy.It uses unicode block to detect language.

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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Bear in mind that you will want to do something like activate a speech slot, then make changes to voice output settings, before then saving those settings for later use.

For example, I would press NVDA + ctrl + shift + 1, then use nvda + ctrl + s to bring up synthesizer dialogue, make a choice, and then use nvda + ctrl + v to bring up the voice settings, make a choice, and voice setting changes, and then hit nvda + ctrl + shift + v to save the current settings to the previously selected slot.

You would then repeat these steps, choosing a different slot each time, to have multiple switch synth combinations available/configured.

And, while it may suit some people, I will mention that one of the reasons I leave any form of automatic language switching turned off is since web developers don't always pay attention to what they should have set a web-page's underlying language to, and, that's one of the triggers that something like that would react to...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 8/10/2018 12:02 PM, Larry Wang wrote:

Hi Diana,

Preferred settings means the synth settings you need to switch between.To configure speech settings, open NVDA menu and go to Preferences -> Settings... -> Speech. If your mum needs automatic switching between English and Mandarin ,try vocalizer expressive on https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

As for OCR ,add a Chinese keyboard layout in Windows language settings and Windows will download data for Chinese OCR and install it. It may take a few minutes.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Yes, the add-on is loaded and enabled ok. And I hear “three” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+3, “four” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+4, “five” and “six”. I don’t see where to configure Preferred setting though.

BTW in Settings / Windows 10 OCR, the Recognition language is English but there’s an option for Chinese.

Thanks for your help!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:13 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.

After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3 if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots then synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save.

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

Thank you.

Diana Kwok.

Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Jacob Kruger

#45115

Bear in mind that you will want to do something like activate a speech slot, then make changes to voice output settings, before then saving those settings for later use.

For example, I would press NVDA + ctrl + shift + 1, then use nvda + ctrl + s to bring up synthesizer dialogue, make a choice, and then use nvda + ctrl + v to bring up the voice settings, make a choice, and voice setting changes, and then hit nvda + ctrl + shift + v to save the current settings to the previously selected slot.

You would then repeat these steps, choosing a different slot each time, to have multiple switch synth combinations available/configured.

And, while it may suit some people, I will mention that one of the reasons I leave any form of automatic language switching turned off is since web developers don't always pay attention to what they should have set a web-page's underlying language to, and, that's one of the triggers that something like that would react to...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 8/10/2018 12:02 PM, Larry Wang wrote:

Show quoted text

Hi Diana,

Preferred settings means the synth settings you need to switch between.To configure speech settings, open NVDA menu and go to Preferences -> Settings... -> Speech. If your mum needs automatic switching between English and Mandarin ,try vocalizer expressive on https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

As for OCR ,add a Chinese keyboard layout in Windows language settings and Windows will download data for Chinese OCR and install it. It may take a few minutes.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Yes, the add-on is loaded and enabled ok. And I hear “three” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+3, “four” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+4, “five” and “six”. I don’t see where to configure Preferred setting though.

BTW in Settings / Windows 10 OCR, the Recognition language is English but there’s an option for Chinese.

Thanks for your help!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:13 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.

After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3 if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots then synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save.

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

Thank you.

Diana Kwok.

Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Larry Wang

#45114

Hi Diana,

Preferred settings means the synth settings you need to switch between.To configure speech settings, open NVDA menu and go to Preferences -> Settings... -> Speech. If your mum needs automatic switching between English and Mandarin ,try vocalizer expressive on https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

As for OCR ,add a Chinese keyboard layout in Windows language settings and Windows will download data for Chinese OCR and install it. It may take a few minutes.

Show quoted text

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Yes, the add-on is loaded and enabled ok. And I hear “three” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+3, “four” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+4, “five” and “six”. I don’t see where to configure Preferred setting though.

BTW in Settings / Windows 10 OCR, the Recognition language is English but there’s an option for Chinese.

Thanks for your help!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:13 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.

After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3 if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots then synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save.

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

Thank you.

Diana Kwok.

Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in halfanhour, website entry will return at the same time

David Moore

#45113

Hi all!

I just installed the NVDA screen Curtin add-on, and it works great. Traci, my wife confirmed that the screen went dark, and I was able to assign a gesture to turn it on and off.

It seems like it is all working well for me.

I am using the latest alpha snap shot of NVDA, and Windows 10 1803.

Have a great one, guys, and thank you for all of your work! Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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From: Rusty Perez
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in halfanhour, website entry will return at the same time

Hi folks,

I've installed the screen curtain add on.

It appears to be running when I go in to the add on manager, but it

doesn't appear just under the tools menu. Also, it does not appear

when I search for it in the gestures / tools area.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

On 8/8/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> have a look on the following page these are add ons under development

> and has the add on updater as well as the screen curtain one and more.

> The link to this page is https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html

>

> Gene nz

>

> On 8/9/2018 2:41 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:

>> Where do you find this screen curtain?

>>

>> On 8/8/2018 7:22 AM, Andre Vosloo wrote:

>>> Hi Joseph

>>>

>>> What a great add-on thanks very much. Will assign a hot key soon.

>>>

>>> regards

>>>

>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of

>>> *Christo de Klerk

>>> *Sent:* 08 August 2018 11:19 AM

>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in

>>> half anhour, website entry will return at the same time

>>>

>>> Hey Joseph

>>>

>>> The add-on works like a charm on my Lenovo laptop. I have also set up

>>> a toggle hotkey, Windows key+s in my case. I am thrilled about this

>>> add-on, because I often have to work with confidential information

>>> and one never knows when there might be prying eyes around.

>>>

>>> Excellent work!

>>>

>>> Kind regards

>>>

>>> Christo

>>>

>>> On 2018/08/08 11:08 AM, abdul muhamin wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi Joseph. Good work. After updating to the latest version of this

>>> addon, it announces screen kirtan on and off. I’ve added a keyboard

>>> shortcut also. Alt plus caps lock plus s.

>>>

>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

>>> Windows 10

>>>

>>> *From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>

>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 8, 2018 9:09 AM

>>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in

>>> half anhour, website entry will return at the same time

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> Gesture assignment: yes, it should be mentioned, and I’ll do just

>>> that for Screen Curtain for the next release (in September).

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>>

>>> Joseph

>>>

>>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of

>>> *Gene New Zealand

>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:04 PM

>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in

>>> half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

>>>

>>> Hi Joseph

>>>

>>> Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on

>>> and off i like that much better than the beeps.

>>>

>>> I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.

>>>

>>> I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can

>>> asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in

>>> the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.

>>>

>>> I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen

>>> curtain i did not know where this could be done.

>>>

>>> Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the

>>> add ons.

>>>

>>> Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it

>>> from a new user.

>>>

>>> Gene nz

>>>

>>> On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi all,

>>>

>>> Screen Curtain August 7^th build will hit the air in about half

>>> an hour from now. This build includes following changes as a

>>> result of basic add-on review:

>>>

>>> * Settings: now configurable. You can now ask NVDA to not

>>> enable screen curtain when it starts (default behavior from

>>> now on). Also, the add-on is ready for configuration profile

>>> switches – that is, you can enable or disable screen curtain

>>> while in certain situations (using an app, for example).

>>> * Documentation: greatly improved. It now mentions new

>>> settings, toggle state, and a link to the actual NVDA issue

>>> is provided.

>>> * Toggle messages: instead of playing a tone whenever screen

>>> curtain is toggled, a message will be spoken and brailled.

>>> The tone will be heard if screen curtain is enabled when

>>> NVDA starts.

>>> Also, this add-on will once again show up on add-ons website

>>> under development section as it has gone through basic review

>>> process.

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>>

>>> Joseph

>>>

>>

>

Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Kwork

#45112

Yes, I think that 61.0.2 fixed a few bugs. I was going to suggest updating 
your Firefox if you hadn't yet.
Travis

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

By the way, my Firefox just updated to 61.0.2, and now Ctrl+D works as
expected. Who knows what was wrong... Never mind; the main thing is that
the problem solved itself.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 10/08/2018 00:25, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck,
however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I
don't know what it might be. Did you do the test of turning off browse
mode and clicking links? We need to determine if this is a UIA
problem or something else.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Scott VanDeWalle <mailto:scottvandewalle2@...>

*Sent:*Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hmmm, that is strange. I’ve used both chrome and firefox.

Scott

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

What browser are you using? I had no problem clicking on links,
including that one and the FAQ link.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Scott VanDeWalle <mailto:scottvandewalle2@...>

*Sent:*Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign
up for an account. I guess if all else fails, I will just have to
sign up using a mobile app.

Thank you

Scott

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Scott,

The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme
but it's not hover over. That page is, overall, one of the most
complex I've encountered in a long time.

It's difficult to know what to experiment with. If you have
a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know
what it is.

-- 

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love
for all humankind./

~ Richard Dehmel

Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene

#45111

I should add, and others with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment on this, that when I try to connect to the site using Google, I get a message that a secure connection can't be established and no connection is allowed. I can connect on Firefox. I don't know if the site is actually insecure enough to worry about or if an older protocol is being used that Google doesn't work with any longer because it isn't as secure as whatever is generally being used these days. If you are going to send personal information to the site, you might want to wait until more information is available.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:21 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

The links appear to work. But you won't know it unless you look below the links. For convenience, move to the repetition of links like getting started, install a server, choose a server, and I'm not sure if there are any other repeated ones

Press enter on one of the repeated links. I say to use them because they are so much closer to the content. Then look down from there. Try getting started first.

Now go back to the join a server link and follow that one. Look down and you will see that the page has changed.

If you try to follow a link to a server at some point, you will see a registration form. You may have to wait a little but it will come up.

I haven't looked at the site in enough detail to be sure it is accessible enough to use but the links do work. They are like links in a FAQ where, once you follow them, part of the page changes and part of it doesn't. But you won't know that part of the page has changed unless you start looking down. for example, following one link changes the page so you will see something that says whatever the name is for organizations. Following another link shows text that says whatever the name is for individuals.

If you wish, you can see if you can do what is necessary to sign up and use the service. But the links do work.

Gene

----- original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:51 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I was mistakenly looking at another site someone asked about in the last day or two. I'm not sure if it was on this list. So disregard my messages of the last hour or two. I'm looking at the other site now.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:35 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:49 PM, Gene wrote:

What does the link say?

It's the Get Started Link (that visually masquerades as a button). It is announced as "Get Started". And I'm talking about the https://joinmastodon.org/ webpage.

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A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel

Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene

#45110

The links appear to work. But you won't know it unless you look below the links. For convenience, move to the repetition of links like getting started, install a server, choose a server, and I'm not sure if there are any other repeated ones

Press enter on one of the repeated links. I say to use them because they are so much closer to the content. Then look down from there. Try getting started first.

Now go back to the join a server link and follow that one. Look down and you will see that the page has changed.

If you try to follow a link to a server at some point, you will see a registration form. You may have to wait a little but it will come up.

I haven't looked at the site in enough detail to be sure it is accessible enough to use but the links do work. They are like links in a FAQ where, once you follow them, part of the page changes and part of it doesn't. But you won't know that part of the page has changed unless you start looking down. for example, following one link changes the page so you will see something that says whatever the name is for organizations. Following another link shows text that says whatever the name is for individuals.

If you wish, you can see if you can do what is necessary to sign up and use the service. But the links do work.

Gene

----- original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:51 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I was mistakenly looking at another site someone asked about in the last day or two. I'm not sure if it was on this list. So disregard my messages of the last hour or two. I'm looking at the other site now.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:35 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:49 PM, Gene wrote:

What does the link say?

It's the Get Started Link (that visually masquerades as a button). It is announced as "Get Started". And I'm talking about the https://joinmastodon.org/ webpage.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel

Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half anhour, website entry will return at the same time

Rusty Perez

#45109

Hi folks,
I've installed the screen curtain add on.

It appears to be running when I go in to the add on manager, but it
doesn't appear just under the tools menu. Also, it does not appear
when I search for it in the gestures / tools area.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

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On 8/8/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


have a look on the following page these are add ons under development
and has the add on updater as well as the screen curtain one and more.
The link to this page is https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html


Gene nz



On 8/9/2018 2:41 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Where do you find this screen curtain?

On 8/8/2018 7:22 AM, Andre Vosloo wrote:
Hi Joseph

What a great add-on thanks very much.  Will assign a hot key soon.

regards

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Christo de Klerk
*Sent:* 08 August 2018 11:19 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in
half anhour, website entry will return at the same time

Hey Joseph

The add-on works like a charm on my Lenovo laptop. I have also set up
a toggle hotkey, Windows key+s in my case. I am thrilled about this
add-on, because I often have to work with confidential information
and one never knows when there might be prying eyes around.

Excellent work!

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/08/08 11:08 AM, abdul muhamin wrote:

    Hi Joseph. Good work. After updating to the latest version of this
    addon, it announces screen kirtan on and off. I’ve added a keyboard
    shortcut also. Alt plus caps lock plus s.

    Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
    Windows 10

    *From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, August 8, 2018 9:09 AM
    *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in
    half anhour, website entry will return at the same time

    Hi,

    Gesture assignment: yes, it should be mentioned, and I’ll do just
    that for Screen Curtain for the next release (in September).

    Cheers,

    Joseph

    *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
    *Gene New Zealand
    *Sent:* Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:04 PM
    *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in
    half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

    Hi Joseph

    Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on
    and off i like that much better than the beeps.

    I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.

    I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can
    asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in
    the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.

    I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen
    curtain i did not know where this could be done.

    Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the
    add ons.

    Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it
    from a new user.

    Gene nz

    On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

        Hi all,

        Screen Curtain August 7^th build will hit the air in about half
        an hour from now. This build includes following changes as a
        result of basic add-on review:

          * Settings: now configurable. You can now ask NVDA to not
            enable screen curtain when it starts (default behavior from
            now on). Also, the add-on is ready for configuration profile
            switches – that is, you can enable or disable screen curtain
            while in certain situations (using an app, for example).
          * Documentation: greatly improved. It now mentions new
            settings, toggle state, and a link to the actual NVDA issue
            is provided.
          * Toggle messages: instead of playing a tone whenever screen
            curtain is toggled, a message will be spoken and brailled.
            The tone will be heard if screen curtain is enabled when
            NVDA starts.
        Also, this add-on will once again show up on add-ons website
        under development section as it has gone through basic review
        process.

        Thank you.

        Cheers,

        Joseph

Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene

#45108

I was mistakenly looking at another site someone asked about in the last day or two. I'm not sure if it was on this list. So disregard my messages of the last hour or two. I'm looking at the other site now.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:35 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:49 PM, Gene wrote:

What does the link say?

It's the Get Started Link (that visually masquerades as a button). It is announced as "Get Started". And I'm talking about the https://joinmastodon.org/ webpage.

--

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A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel

Re: The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Quentin Christensen

#45107

Hi Will,

You are correct re apostrophe being treated as a word break when speaking typed words. There is an issue open for it, which doesn't appear to have had any updates lately: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6215 I've just commented on it myself.

Re speaking punctuation as you type but not as you read, as Gene noted, press NVDA+p to change NVDA's punctuation level while reading only. It has four states, None, Some, Most and All. The higher the level, the more punctuation gets read, and the lower the level, the less gets read when reading. When typing, if speak typed characters on, NVDA will read any punctuation character you type, regardless of the punctuation level. This doesn't quite work in with the way you want to work if you want to have speak typed characters off unfortunately. I can't think of a way of having NVDA read the punctuation characters that you type without reading the letters as well.

Regards

Quentin.

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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:07 AM, Wilco <w.norman@...> wrote:

Hi,

I’m a relative NVDA newby just trying to navigate my way through the transition from JAWS.

One thing I’m struggling with a bit is the way NVDA speaks as I am typing. For instance, if I want to type a word with an apostrophe in it, as soon as I hit the apostrophe key, NVDA announces the word to that point, and then announces the rest of the word when I press space at the end.

So don’t is spoken as don t, which is kind of off-putting when word processing.

Is there any way around this?

I have NVDA set to only announce words when I type.

Also, if possible I’d quite like NVDA to announce punctuation that I type, but not punctuation as I read. So I might want the reassurance of hearing NVDA say period or question mark when I enter them at the end of a sentence, but I wouldn’t want it to read out every full stop and question mark in text that I am simple browsing or reading.

Any thoughts welcome.

Cheers, Will.

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Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Brian Vogel

#45106

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:49 PM, Gene wrote:

What does the link say?

It's the Get Started Link (that visually masquerades as a button). It is announced as "Get Started". And I'm talking about the https://joinmastodon.org/ webpage.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel