Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Dave Grossoehme
Hi: My first desktop computer was before Windows. I started out by using one of the first in line of the Jaws For Dos programs. However, the history of blind using computers goes back before a desktop computer existed. I only know of paarts of the information, of which there was a program on punched cards that could be added to other punched card programs to make a IBM 1403 Printer write in braille. Also IBM had started work on software for the blind to use with some of the first IBM consoles, which was a large typewriter that you typed commands into a main frame computer. Dave
On 7/15/2022 11:07 AM, Rosemarie
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Gene
This article from AFB says that the first Windows screen-reader was
Window Bridge.
https://www.afb.org/aw/1/4/16165 The first screen reader for a Windows operating system was not released until 1992 when Syntha-Voice Computers released SlimWare Window Bridge for Windows 3.1. Gene
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Pam,
The very first computer I got had a demo version of window eyes. I had gotten it from Computers for the Blind in Texas.
Rosemarie
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From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
My first windows computer that I got in 2000 had window bridge in it. But I felt so alone, because nobody could help me, because they either had jaws or window eyes in theirs. Pam.
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From: Chris Smart
Great article.
However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
very nice informative article.
On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote: > Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are > we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin Brian > > -- > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM > Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) > > > Hi, > > I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that > many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.) > > -Laurie > > > > > The hidden history of screen readers > > > > > > > https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter- > curran > -teh-nvda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
I still miss ASAP and my Accent PC card. LOL
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: July 15, 2022 11:00 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) Very good as a summary. A complete history would have covered many more screen readers and their developers. Howard On 7/15/2022 9:40 AM, Aravind R wrote: very nice informative article.
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
I thought it was window eyes which I have used. It might have also been vocal eyes in 1994 or so. I remember quitting to windows or quitting to doss.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) Great article. However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) very nice informative article. On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote: Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are -- -- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@.... aravind.rajendran@....
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Howard Traxler
Very good as a summary. A complete history would have covered many more screen readers and their developers.
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Howard
On 7/15/2022 9:40 AM, Aravind R wrote:
very nice informative article.
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Pamela Dominguez
My first windows computer that I got in 2000 had window bridge in it. But I felt so alone, because nobody could help me, because they either had jaws or window eyes in theirs. Pam.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 10:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Great article.
However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
very nice informative article.
On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote: > Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are > we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin Brian > > -- > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM > Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) > > > Hi, > > I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that > many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.) > > -Laurie > > > > > The hidden history of screen readers > > > > > > > https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter- > curran > -teh-nvda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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-- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.
r. aravind,
manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@.... aravind.rajendran@....
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Great article.
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However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) very nice informative article. On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote: Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are -- -- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@.... aravind.rajendran@....
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Aravind R
very nice informative article.
On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote: Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are we -- -- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@.... aravind.rajendran@....
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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on
Rui Fontes
Hello!
Since January we have published several new versions... To get the most recent, use the following link:
Best regards, Às 15:02 de 15/07/2022, Dave Grossoehme
escreveu:
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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on
Dave Grossoehme
Hi Rui: When was this update written? I have your app for my add on for NVDA, but it is dated January of 2022. Is that the latest update? If not, I missed the address to go to update, if it won't update, from the alt + h key in the NVDA Add on's. I apologize for being a little late on this information. I had in my mind that this was a different ADD On other than the Now app. Can you be so, kind to help out here? Thanks in advance. Dave
On 7/13/2022 11:59 AM, Rui Fontes
wrote:
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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on
Rui Fontes
Yes, you can see in documentation the several languages it support:
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Afrikans Albanian Amharik Arabic Armenian Assamese Azerbaijani (Latin) Basque Belarusian Bengali Bosnian Breton Bulgarian Burnese Catalan/Valencian Cebuano Cherokee Chinese simplified Chinese traditional Corsican Croatian Czech Dannish Deutch Dhivehi Dutch (Flemish) Dzongkha English Esperanto Estonian Faroese Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian Greek Gujarati Haitian Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Inuktitut Irish Italian Javanese Japanese Kannada Kazakh Khmer (Central) Kirghiz Korean Kurdish Kurmanji Lao Latin Lativia Lituanian Luxembourgish Macedonian Malay Malayalam Maltese Maori Marathi Math / equation detection module Mongolian Nepali Norwegian Occitan Oriya Panjabi Pashto Persian Polish Portuguese Quechua Romanian/Moldave Russian Sanskrit Scottish Gaelic Serbian (Latin) Slovak) Slovenian) Sindhi Sinhalese Spanish Sundanese Swahili Swedish Syriac Tajik Tamil Tatar Telugu Thai Tibetan Tigrinya Tonga Turkish Uighur Ukrainian Urdu Uzbek (Latin) Vietnamese Welsh West Frisian Yiddish Yoruba Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Às 08:19 de 15/07/2022, mukesh jain escreveu:
hello,
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Re: When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?
Gene
Its a question about licensing.
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Gene On 7/15/2022 3:18 AM, Brian's Mail list
account via groups.io wrote:
I'm not sure what you are saying. I'd have thought that as the drivers are part of nvda, at least when it updates, it has to do a restart and hence cannot speak.
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Re: When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?
Brian's Mail list account
I'm not sure what you are saying. I'd have thought that as the drivers are part of nvda, at least when it updates, it has to do a restart and hence cannot speak.
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In the case of windows updates when windows does this it normally runs in a mode where as few bits of windows are running as possible, so it can update system files and then reboots. So are you saying that this loses the paid for voices unless you deactivated them before the update then re enable after it? That would seem a little odd since most registered software seems happy to re initialise as windows reboots. What are you trying to hear during the update process, as of course Narrator can be set to at least talk some prompts, and maybe finding a different default voice might help, but unless Microsoft are going to do an Apple and put in Eloquence as standard, you are probably stuck with whatever happens here. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Daniel McGee" <danielmcgee134@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 5:36 AM Subject: [nvda] When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again? As the example the recent RC version of nvda 2022.2 Or any nvda releases for that matter. Except for add on breaking releases obviously. I wish I knew a Definitive answer for this particular add on. As I use it exclusively for my hearing impairment. While I understand the situation where it's obvious to deactivate. Formatting the drive, upgrading internals. Etc. Is it Absolutely, necessary, every time, when there's an nvda update or even a: feature update to windows 10 or 11. For those who use the add on, would love to know your thoughts. With kind regards Daniel
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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Brian's Mail list account
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA) Hi, I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.) -Laurie The hidden history of screen readers https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran -teh-nvda
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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on
mukesh jain
hello,
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does it support Hindi language? thanks, Mukesh
On 7/14/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!
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Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)
Laurie Mehta
Hi, I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name…) -Laurie
The hidden history of screen readers
https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran-teh-nvda
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Re: Add-on Updater notice: introducing Project Meteor to refactor add-on download and installation steps
Hi all, Major change to nightlight plan: after reading feedback from the community, I decided to scrap a major part of nightlight mode: on Windows 7, 8, and 8.1, Add-on Updater will not touch automatic update check setting. Proceeding with the original plan can create confusion for users and does not align with precedence. An updated try build is now available to apply this change: https://github.com/josephsl/addonUpdater/releases/download/22.07/addonUpdater-tryProjectMeteor20220714A.nvda-addon Cheers, Joseph
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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on
Rui Fontes
Hello!
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Yes, you should select Tamil, and if necessary, other languages, and place Tamil in first place. Regarding your problem navegating the results, it is strange since it is a normal text file in the NotePad application... I suppose the threading problem updating is already solved... Waiting for yours future observations... Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Às 15:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,
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Re: Reading WEB Pages
tim
No, but with that fix no problem.
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On 7/14/2022 5:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
I don't think this is the issue here. If you go to desktop then toggle back does it work then? I've seen this effect on machines with slow processors or little ram. I guess the data to enable the browsing gets lost or something. Also always use the 64 bit version of a browser, as sometimes this seems to screw up accessibility. Until we know the browser involved, then we are just guessing.
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