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Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi: My first desktop computer was before Windows.  I started out by using one of the first in line of the Jaws For Dos programs.  However, the history of blind using computers goes back before a desktop computer existed.  I only know of paarts of the information, of which there was a program on punched cards that could be added to other punched card programs to make a IBM 1403 Printer write in braille.  Also IBM had started work on software for the blind to use with some of the first IBM consoles, which was a large typewriter that you typed commands into a main frame computer.

Dave


On 7/15/2022 11:07 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Pam,

 

The very first computer I got had a demo version of window eyes. I had gotten it from Computers for the Blind in Texas.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

My first windows computer that I got in 2000 had window bridge in it.  But I felt so alone, because nobody could help me, because they either had jaws or window eyes in theirs.  Pam.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

Great article.

 

However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R

Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

very nice informative article.

 

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote:

> Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are

> we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin  Brian

> --

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM

> Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

> Hi,

> I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that

> many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

> -Laurie

> The hidden history of screen readers

> https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-

> curran

> -teh-nvda

>

 

 

--

 

 

--

--

nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

 

r. aravind,

 

manager

Department of sales

bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

mobile no: +91 9940369593,

email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

aravind.rajendran@....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Gene
 

This article from AFB says that the first  Windows screen-reader was Window Bridge.
https://www.afb.org/aw/1/4/16165
The first screen reader for a Windows operating system was not released until 1992 when Syntha-Voice Computers released SlimWare Window Bridge for Windows 3.1.

Gene


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Pam,

 

The very first computer I got had a demo version of window eyes. I had gotten it from Computers for the Blind in Texas.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

My first windows computer that I got in 2000 had window bridge in it.  But I felt so alone, because nobody could help me, because they either had jaws or window eyes in theirs.  Pam.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

Great article.

 

However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R

Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

very nice informative article.

 

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote:

> Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are

> we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin  Brian

> --

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM

> Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

> Hi,

> I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that

> many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

> -Laurie

> The hidden history of screen readers

> https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-

> curran

> -teh-nvda

>

 

 

--

 

 

--

--

nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

 

r. aravind,

 

manager

Department of sales

bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

mobile no: +91 9940369593,

email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

aravind.rajendran@....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Chris Smart
 

I still miss ASAP and my Accent PC card. LOL

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: July 15, 2022 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Very good as a summary. A complete history would have covered many more screen readers and their developers.

Howard


On 7/15/2022 9:40 AM, Aravind R wrote:
very nice informative article.

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists@...> wrote:
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or
are we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin
Brian

--
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that
many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter
-curran
-teh-nvda

















Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Sarah k Alawami
 

I thought it was window eyes which I have used. It might have also been vocal eyes in 1994 or so. I remember quitting to windows or quitting to doss.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Great article.

However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

very nice informative article.

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are
we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin Brian

--
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that
many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-
curran
-teh-nvda

















--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Howard Traxler
 

Very good as a summary.  A complete history would have covered many more screen readers and their developers.

Howard

On 7/15/2022 9:40 AM, Aravind R wrote:
very nice informative article.

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists@...> wrote:
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are we
late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin
Brian

--
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many
here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran
-teh-nvda

















Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Pamela Dominguez
 

My first windows computer that I got in 2000 had window bridge in it.  But I felt so alone, because nobody could help me, because they either had jaws or window eyes in theirs.  Pam.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

Great article.

 

However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R

Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

 

very nice informative article.

 

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote:

> Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are

> we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin  Brian

> --

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM

> Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

> Hi,

> I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that

> many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

> -Laurie

> The hidden history of screen readers

> https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-

> curran

> -teh-nvda

>

 

 

--

 

 

--

--

nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

 

r. aravind,

 

manager

Department of sales

bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.

mobile no: +91 9940369593,

email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....

aravind.rajendran@....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Chris Smart
 

Great article.

However, and perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounds like the author suggests Jaws for Windows was the first screenreader for Windows. Nope. The first was Windows Bridge, from SynthaVoice Computers Inc. and was out at least three years before JFW.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: July 15, 2022 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

very nice informative article.

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are
we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin Brian

--
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that
many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-
curran
-teh-nvda

















--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Aravind R
 

very nice informative article.

On 15/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists@...> wrote:
Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are we
late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin
Brian

--
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media)
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many
here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran
-teh-nvda

















--


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Since January we have published several new versions...

To get the most recent, use the following link:

 https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.07.13/tesseractOCR-2022.07.13.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 15:02 de 15/07/2022, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

Hi Rui:  When was this update written?  I have your app for my add on for NVDA, but it is dated January of 2022.  Is that the latest update?  If not, I missed the address to go to update, if it won't update, from the alt + h key in the NVDA Add on's.  I apologize for being a little late on this information.  I had in my mind that this was a different ADD On other than the Now app.  Can you be so, kind to help out here?  Thanks in advance.

Dave


On 7/13/2022 11:59 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Here is the documentation:


TesseractOCR
• Authors: Rui Fontes rui.fontes@... and Angelo Abrantes ampa4374@...
• Updated in 13/07/2022
• Download stable version
• Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and beyond
Informations
This add-on uses the free and open source Tesseract OCR engine, to perform optical character recognition on an image file, PDF, JPG, TIF or other, without the need to open it. It also uses wia-cmd-scanner to be able to access WIA enabled scanners and perform OCR to a paper document. In the NVDA menu, Preferences, a TesseractOCR section is added, where you can configure the languages to be used in recognition and the type of documents to be recognized. With the exception of English and Portuguese, which are already included in add-on, the other languages will be downloaded and installed when you select a language that does not already exist in the add-on. Note that as the number of selected recognition languages increases, the OCR process will take longer. We therefore recommend that you use only the languages you need. Note also that the quality of recognition may vary according to the order of languages. Therefore, if the recognition result is not satisfactory, you may want to try another language ordering.
Shortcut
The default commands are: Windows+Control+r - to recognize the selected document; Windows+Control+w - to scan and recognize a document through the scanner.
Then just wait that ocr.txt opens with the recognized text. If you want to preserve the recognized text, don't forget to save the document under another name and in another location, as all files in the temporary directory are deleted at the start of the next OCR process!
This commands can be modified in the "Input gestures" dialog in the "TesseractOCR" section.
Automatic update
This add-on includes an automatic update feature. The check for a new version will be executed everytime NVDA is loaded. If you want this, go to NVDA, Preferences, Options and in the add-on category check the check box.
Known problems
• In some systems it is possible that add-on do not work due to a comtypes error... In some machines it is enough going to the temp folder, and deleting the comtypes_cache folder.
• When selecting the "Various" option in the "Documents type" combobox, the recognized text probably appear with many blank lines This is a known problem with Tesseract, and, without consumming lots of processing time, I haven't yet found any solution. But, I still haven't given up!
Languages supported
The supported languages in this version are: Afrikans Albanian Amharik Arabic Armenian Assamese Azerbaijani (Latin) Basque Belarusian Bengali Bosnian Breton Bulgarian Burnese Catalan/Valencian Cebuano Cherokee Chinese simplified Chinese traditional Corsican Croatian Czech Dannish Deutch Dhivehi Dutch (Flemish) Dzongkha English Esperanto Estonian Faroese Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian Greek Gujarati Haitian Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Inuktitut Irish Italian Javanese Japanese Kannada Kazakh Khmer (Central) Kirghiz Korean Kurdish Kurmanji Lao Latin Lativia Lituanian Luxembourgish Macedonian Malay Malayalam Maltese Maori Marathi Math / equation detection module Mongolian Nepali Norwegian Occitan Oriya Panjabi Pashto Persian Polish Portuguese Quechua Romanian/Moldave Russian Sanskrit Scottish Gaelic Serbian (Latin) Slovak) Slovenian) Sindhi Sinhalese Spanish Sundanese Swahili Swedish Syriac Tajik Tamil Tatar Telugu Thai Tibetan Tigrinya Tonga Turkish Uighur Ukrainian Urdu Uzbek (Latin) Vietnamese Welsh West Frisian Yiddish Yoruba
Image types supported
This add-on supports the following types of files: PDF jpg tif png bmp pnm pbm pgm jp2 gif jfif jpeg tiff spix webp


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 15:09 de 13/07/2022, Anthony tom escreveu:
How is it used?


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi Rui:  When was this update written?  I have your app for my add on for NVDA, but it is dated January of 2022.  Is that the latest update?  If not, I missed the address to go to update, if it won't update, from the alt + h key in the NVDA Add on's.  I apologize for being a little late on this information.  I had in my mind that this was a different ADD On other than the Now app.  Can you be so, kind to help out here?  Thanks in advance.

Dave


On 7/13/2022 11:59 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Here is the documentation:


TesseractOCR
• Authors: Rui Fontes rui.fontes@... and Angelo Abrantes ampa4374@...
• Updated in 13/07/2022
• Download stable version
• Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and beyond
Informations
This add-on uses the free and open source Tesseract OCR engine, to perform optical character recognition on an image file, PDF, JPG, TIF or other, without the need to open it. It also uses wia-cmd-scanner to be able to access WIA enabled scanners and perform OCR to a paper document. In the NVDA menu, Preferences, a TesseractOCR section is added, where you can configure the languages to be used in recognition and the type of documents to be recognized. With the exception of English and Portuguese, which are already included in add-on, the other languages will be downloaded and installed when you select a language that does not already exist in the add-on. Note that as the number of selected recognition languages increases, the OCR process will take longer. We therefore recommend that you use only the languages you need. Note also that the quality of recognition may vary according to the order of languages. Therefore, if the recognition result is not satisfactory, you may want to try another language ordering.
Shortcut
The default commands are: Windows+Control+r - to recognize the selected document; Windows+Control+w - to scan and recognize a document through the scanner.
Then just wait that ocr.txt opens with the recognized text. If you want to preserve the recognized text, don't forget to save the document under another name and in another location, as all files in the temporary directory are deleted at the start of the next OCR process!
This commands can be modified in the "Input gestures" dialog in the "TesseractOCR" section.
Automatic update
This add-on includes an automatic update feature. The check for a new version will be executed everytime NVDA is loaded. If you want this, go to NVDA, Preferences, Options and in the add-on category check the check box.
Known problems
• In some systems it is possible that add-on do not work due to a comtypes error... In some machines it is enough going to the temp folder, and deleting the comtypes_cache folder.
• When selecting the "Various" option in the "Documents type" combobox, the recognized text probably appear with many blank lines This is a known problem with Tesseract, and, without consumming lots of processing time, I haven't yet found any solution. But, I still haven't given up!
Languages supported
The supported languages in this version are: Afrikans Albanian Amharik Arabic Armenian Assamese Azerbaijani (Latin) Basque Belarusian Bengali Bosnian Breton Bulgarian Burnese Catalan/Valencian Cebuano Cherokee Chinese simplified Chinese traditional Corsican Croatian Czech Dannish Deutch Dhivehi Dutch (Flemish) Dzongkha English Esperanto Estonian Faroese Filipino Finnish French Galician Georgian Greek Gujarati Haitian Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Inuktitut Irish Italian Javanese Japanese Kannada Kazakh Khmer (Central) Kirghiz Korean Kurdish Kurmanji Lao Latin Lativia Lituanian Luxembourgish Macedonian Malay Malayalam Maltese Maori Marathi Math / equation detection module Mongolian Nepali Norwegian Occitan Oriya Panjabi Pashto Persian Polish Portuguese Quechua Romanian/Moldave Russian Sanskrit Scottish Gaelic Serbian (Latin) Slovak) Slovenian) Sindhi Sinhalese Spanish Sundanese Swahili Swedish Syriac Tajik Tamil Tatar Telugu Thai Tibetan Tigrinya Tonga Turkish Uighur Ukrainian Urdu Uzbek (Latin) Vietnamese Welsh West Frisian Yiddish Yoruba
Image types supported
This add-on supports the following types of files: PDF jpg tif png bmp pnm pbm pgm jp2 gif jfif jpeg tiff spix webp


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 15:09 de 13/07/2022, Anthony tom escreveu:
How is it used?


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, you can see in documentation the several languages it support:

Afrikans
Albanian
Amharik
Arabic
Armenian
Assamese
Azerbaijani (Latin)
Basque
Belarusian
Bengali
Bosnian
Breton
Bulgarian
Burnese
Catalan/Valencian
Cebuano
Cherokee
Chinese simplified
Chinese traditional
Corsican
Croatian
Czech
Dannish
Deutch
Dhivehi
Dutch (Flemish)
Dzongkha
English
Esperanto
Estonian
Faroese
Filipino
Finnish
French
Galician
Georgian
Greek
Gujarati
Haitian
Hebrew
Hindi
Hungarian
Icelandic
Indonesian
Inuktitut
Irish
Italian
Javanese
Japanese
Kannada
Kazakh
Khmer (Central)
Kirghiz
Korean
Kurdish Kurmanji
Lao
Latin
Lativia
Lituanian
Luxembourgish
Macedonian
Malay
Malayalam
Maltese
Maori
Marathi
Math / equation detection module
Mongolian
Nepali
Norwegian
Occitan
Oriya
Panjabi
Pashto
Persian
Polish
Portuguese
Quechua
Romanian/Moldave
Russian
Sanskrit
Scottish Gaelic
Serbian (Latin)
Slovak)
Slovenian)
Sindhi
Sinhalese
Spanish
Sundanese
Swahili
Swedish
Syriac
Tajik
Tamil
Tatar
Telugu
Thai
Tibetan
Tigrinya
Tonga
Turkish
Uighur
Ukrainian
Urdu
Uzbek (Latin)
Vietnamese
Welsh
West Frisian
Yiddish
Yoruba

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 08:19 de 15/07/2022, mukesh jain escreveu:

hello,
does it support Hindi language?
thanks,
Mukesh

On 7/14/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!


Yes, you should select Tamil, and if necessary, other languages, and
place Tamil in first place.


Regarding your problem navegating the results, it is strange since it is
a normal text file in the NotePad application...


I suppose the threading problem updating is already solved...


Waiting for yours future observations...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 15:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,

Thank you for clarifying.
So, it will automatically pick the language in the selected language list
In the order.
Mean-wile, I just encountered a new problem now, when I started my PC.
Once the Windows loaded, NVDA startup sound came, but no voice to speak.
Tried to restart the NVDA few times with the shortcut key.(Ctrl+Alt+N),
same result.
Then loaded alternative screen reader, and it announced " New version of
TesseractOCR add-on is available; do you want to install? Yes/ No"
When I clicked "Yes" took a short while but NVDA did not restart. But the
voice started to speak.
Repeated to restart NVDA,the result was as previous.
Then saw this link and updated via this download.
Now no issue.
Only this afternoon, before shutting the PC, I checked the checkbox to
check for new updates in the TesseractOCR add-on settings in NVDA.
I use Windows 10 64bit; NVDA 2022.1; Vocalizer voices.
Also, the OCR results in Tamil language seems to be bit unclear.
I mean, after the OCR the results does not seems to be in an order to make
the sentences meaningful.
And moving to them with the normal cursor is difficult. Have to use the
Object navigation.
This is my initial experience. Wil give it more attempts and confirm.
Please advice if am I missing anything.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


It is already available a new version, 2022.07.13.

The change log is:

- Corrected the threading for the update routine;
- Updated turkish translation;
- Small code corrections...


The direct link is:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.07.13/tesseractOCR-2022.07.13.nvda-addon


In the NVDA, Preferences, Options, you will find a TesseractOCR section.

There you can select the languages to be used in the recognition process
and its order...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,
Just a question about the below :
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of
documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;""

How can we select the second language? Where are these options please?
I have added the required second language(Tamil) in the list.
I am running Win 10 64 bit; NVDA 2022.1; TesseractOCR add-on v:
2022.07(downloaded from the direct link you shared.)

Thanks,
Ravi
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of
documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows
the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages
combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility
with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian


















Re: When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?

Gene
 

Its a question about licensing. 

Gene

On 7/15/2022 3:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

I'm not sure what you are saying. I'd have thought that as the drivers are part of nvda, at least when it updates, it has to do a restart and hence cannot speak.
In the case of windows updates when windows does this it normally runs in a mode where as few bits of windows are running as possible, so it can update system files and then reboots. So are you saying that this loses the paid for voices unless you deactivated them before the update then re enable after it? That would seem a little odd since most registered software seems happy to re initialise as windows reboots.
What are you trying to hear during the update process, as of course Narrator can be set to at least talk some prompts, and maybe finding a different default voice might help, but unless Microsoft are going to do an Apple and put in Eloquence as standard, you are probably stuck with whatever happens here.
Brian



Re: When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?

Brian's Mail list account
 

I'm not sure what you are saying. I'd have thought that as the drivers are part of nvda, at least when it updates, it has to do a restart and hence cannot speak.
In the case of windows updates when windows does this it normally runs in a mode where as few bits of windows are running as possible, so it can update system files and then reboots. So are you saying that this loses the paid for voices unless you deactivated them before the update then re enable after it? That would seem a little odd since most registered software seems happy to re initialise as windows reboots.
What are you trying to hear during the update process, as of course Narrator can be set to at least talk some prompts, and maybe finding a different default voice might help, but unless Microsoft are going to do an Apple and put in Eloquence as standard, you are probably stuck with whatever happens here.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <danielmcgee134@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 5:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?


As the example the recent RC version of nvda 2022.2

Or any nvda releases for that matter. Except for add on breaking releases obviously.

I wish I knew a Definitive answer for this particular add on. As I use it exclusively for my hearing impairment.

While I understand the situation where it's obvious to deactivate. Formatting the drive, upgrading internals. Etc.

Is it Absolutely, necessary, every time, when there's an nvda update or even a: feature update to windows 10 or 11.

For those who use the add on, would love to know your thoughts.

With kind regards

Daniel


Re: Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes not read it all yet. I'd no idea it was accessibility week, or are we late to the party due to inaccessibility. grin
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via groups.io" <lauriemehta@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 4:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)


Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many
here will find it interesting. (Link below my name.)

-Laurie




The hidden history of screen readers






https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran
-teh-nvda


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

mukesh jain
 

hello,
does it support Hindi language?
thanks,
Mukesh

On 7/14/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!


Yes, you should select Tamil, and if necessary, other languages, and
place Tamil in first place.


Regarding your problem navegating the results, it is strange since it is
a normal text file in the NotePad application...


I suppose the threading problem updating is already solved...


Waiting for yours future observations...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 15:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,

Thank you for clarifying.
So, it will automatically pick the language in the selected language list
In the order.
Mean-wile, I just encountered a new problem now, when I started my PC.
Once the Windows loaded, NVDA startup sound came, but no voice to speak.
Tried to restart the NVDA few times with the shortcut key.(Ctrl+Alt+N),
same result.
Then loaded alternative screen reader, and it announced " New version of
TesseractOCR add-on is available; do you want to install? Yes/ No"
When I clicked "Yes" took a short while but NVDA did not restart. But the
voice started to speak.
Repeated to restart NVDA,the result was as previous.
Then saw this link and updated via this download.
Now no issue.
Only this afternoon, before shutting the PC, I checked the checkbox to
check for new updates in the TesseractOCR add-on settings in NVDA.
I use Windows 10 64bit; NVDA 2022.1; Vocalizer voices.
Also, the OCR results in Tamil language seems to be bit unclear.
I mean, after the OCR the results does not seems to be in an order to make
the sentences meaningful.
And moving to them with the normal cursor is difficult. Have to use the
Object navigation.
This is my initial experience. Wil give it more attempts and confirm.
Please advice if am I missing anything.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


It is already available a new version, 2022.07.13.

The change log is:

- Corrected the threading for the update routine;
- Updated turkish translation;
- Small code corrections...


The direct link is:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.07.13/tesseractOCR-2022.07.13.nvda-addon


In the NVDA, Preferences, Options, you will find a TesseractOCR section.

There you can select the languages to be used in the recognition process
and its order...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,
Just a question about the below :
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of
documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;""

How can we select the second language? Where are these options please?
I have added the required second language(Tamil) in the list.
I am running Win 10 64 bit; NVDA 2022.1; TesseractOCR add-on v:
2022.07(downloaded from the direct link you shared.)

Thanks,
Ravi
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of
documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows
the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages
combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility
with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian




















Article on Screen Reader History (including NVDA)

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi,

I came across this today and am sharing it here because I think that many here will find it interesting. (Link below my name…)

-Laurie

 

The hidden history of screen readers

 

 

https://www.theverge.com/23203911/screen-readers-history-blind-henter-curran-teh-nvda

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater notice: introducing Project Meteor to refactor add-on download and installation steps

 

Hi all,

Major change to nightlight plan: after reading feedback from the community, I decided to scrap a major part of nightlight mode: on Windows 7, 8, and 8.1, Add-on Updater will not touch automatic update check setting. Proceeding with the original plan can create confusion for users and does not align with precedence. An updated try build is now available to apply this change: https://github.com/josephsl/addonUpdater/releases/download/22.07/addonUpdater-tryProjectMeteor20220714A.nvda-addon

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Yes, you should select Tamil, and if necessary, other languages, and place Tamil in first place.


Regarding your problem navegating the results, it is strange since it is a normal text file in the NotePad application...


I suppose the threading problem updating is already solved...


Waiting for yours future observations...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 15:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:

Hello,

Thank you for clarifying.
So, it will automatically pick the language in the selected language list In the order.
Mean-wile, I just encountered a new problem now, when I started my PC.
Once the Windows loaded, NVDA startup sound came, but no voice to speak. Tried to restart the NVDA few times with the shortcut key.(Ctrl+Alt+N), same result.
Then loaded alternative screen reader, and it announced " New version of TesseractOCR add-on is available; do you want to install? Yes/ No"
When I clicked "Yes" took a short while but NVDA did not restart. But the voice started to speak.
Repeated to restart NVDA,the result was as previous.
Then saw this link and updated via this download.
Now no issue.
Only this afternoon, before shutting the PC, I checked the checkbox to check for new updates in the TesseractOCR add-on settings in NVDA.
I use Windows 10 64bit; NVDA 2022.1; Vocalizer voices.
Also, the OCR results in Tamil language seems to be bit unclear.
I mean, after the OCR the results does not seems to be in an order to make the sentences meaningful.
And moving to them with the normal cursor is difficult. Have to use the Object navigation.
This is my initial experience. Wil give it more attempts and confirm.
Please advice if am I missing anything.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


It is already available a new version, 2022.07.13.

The change log is:

- Corrected the threading for the update routine;
- Updated turkish translation;
- Small code corrections...


The direct link is:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.07.13/tesseractOCR-2022.07.13.nvda-addon


In the NVDA, Preferences, Options, you will find a TesseractOCR section.

There you can select the languages to be used in the recognition process and its order...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:24 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:
Hello,
Just a question about the below :
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;""

How can we select the second language? Where are these options please?
I have added the required second language(Tamil) in the list.
I am running Win 10 64 bit; NVDA 2022.1; TesseractOCR add-on v: 2022.07(downloaded from the direct link you shared.)
Thanks,
Ravi
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian















Re: Reading WEB Pages

tim
 

No, but with that fix no problem.

On 7/14/2022 5:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
I don't think this is the issue here. If you go to desktop then toggle back does it work then? I've seen this effect on machines with slow processors or little ram. I guess the data to enable the browsing gets lost or something. Also always use the 64 bit version of a browser, as sometimes this seems to screw up accessibility. Until we know the browser involved, then we are just guessing.
Brian