On 19 Aug 2022, at 11:01 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

For Solitaire Collection, really nothing - as in you don't need an add-on to play them as NVDA will read card labels and card decks.

As for other games, depends on willingness from game developers to learn about needs of screen reader users.

Cheers,

Joseph

You will probably find both of these suggestions solve the problem.
Here is the link to Silenzio.
http://www.stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=112
Thanks so much to Piotr Machacz who let me know about an enterprising developer who wrote a little application to get around the problem. It’s called Silenzio and has been written by Stefan Kiss. This little app can be set to load at start-up and sends blank audio to your audio device. This keeps the device awake, and your screen reader will respond as you need it to.
You’ll find an icon in the system tray, allowing you to tell the app which audio device to send the blank audio to. It will use your Windows default device by default.
Play some audio
If you have the ability, record a few seconds of silence in a sound editor and play it on repeat in the background.

The above is an excerpt from a long podcast transcript of a Jonathan Mosen podcast.  If you want to find the full transcript and podcast, do an Internet search for sounds funny mosen

Gene

I have heard of the following problem with speech programs before but can’t remember the solution. Using my laptop, if I stop using the keyboard for several seconds there is a delay when I start typing again. I get the same problem using NVDA or Narrator. Is there a setting within the Screenreader or is it a setting on the computer?

Brian

On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 01:02 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Your current symbol level is causing the symbols to be ignored. For example, a ' on its own won't be read unless you set your symbol level to all.
You could argue that NVDA should automatically set the symbol level to all and reset it when the dialog closes so it's easier for people to edit their symbols, but that's not how it works.

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Then, I have to say, someone wasn't thinking.  In a dialog such as that one you need to have the symbol/punctuation indicated, always, otherwise you have no freakin' idea of what it is you might be working with (unless you already knew that "tick" was the replacement for a single quote, etc.)  You could also believe, with ease, that you're actually working with a character (e.g. semicolon) that you're not working with at all.

I honestly see no reason for that dialog to announce what are hidden separator characters during the editing process that the end user cannot see (if they can literally see) nor need to know about in any way.  They're not relevant for what the end user is trying to do.

I'll have to put together a bug report later today, because if all of this behavior doesn't constitute a bug, I don't know what would.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

In Thunderbird, NVDA plus end says the last character on the current line.

On 8/19/2022 7:23 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Hi David,

 

While using nvda, insert+end will give you the status bar.sometimes.

It works well in ms office, word, and likely othe office apps.

It gives no info while using Google Chrome.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: August 19, 2022 6:03 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Status Bar Keystroke

 

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

 

 

Hi David,

 

While using nvda, insert+end will give you the status bar.sometimes.

It works well in ms office, word, and likely othe office apps.

It gives no info while using Google Chrome.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: August 19, 2022 6:03 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Status Bar Keystroke

 

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

 

 

Hi David,

 

While using nvda, insert+end will give you the status bar.sometimes.

It works well in ms office, word, and likely othe office apps.

It gives no info while using Google Chrome.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: August 19, 2022 6:03 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Status Bar Keystroke

 

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

 

 

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

Hi all,

I know you can press F6 a few times to get to the Status bar. Does NVDA also have a keystroke combination to reveal it like JAWS has Insert Page Down?

Thanks,

David

 

 

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On 19 Aug 2022, at 1:54 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

Ah, Solitaire Collection... Until a few weeks ago an add-on was indeed required to play Solitaire Collection games effectively. This is no longer the case as accessibility has greatly improved. In fact, you'll see an announcement about Solitaire Collection and an add-on called Windows App Essentials soon - in short, the upcoming version of this add-on will "drop" support for Solitaire Collection games due to improved accessibility.

Cheers,

Joseph

Your current symbol level is causing the symbols to be ignored. For example, a ' on its own won't be read unless you set your symbol level to all.
You could argue that NVDA should automatically set the symbol level to all and reset it when the dialog closes so it's easier for people to edit their symbols, but that's not how it works.

On 8/18/2022 9:12 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

These are the instructions I've written for editing pronunciations for symbols/punctuation:
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1. Hit NVDA + N, P, P [NVDA Menu, Preferences, Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation]
2. In the filter box, either enter the character for which you wish to change the replacement OR the replacement phrase you no longer wish to have used.  It's often more efficient to enter the replacement phrase (e.g., tick, bang) than the character, as all instances of where that replacement is used will come up in the Symbols section, which is where you find entries to make changes.
3. Hit TAB once to land in the first returned result in the symbols list to double check that it's one you wish to change.  If it is, then . . .
4. Hit ALT + R to be thrown directly to the Replacement Edit box.  Change the replacement to whatever you wish for it to be.
5. Hit SHIFT + TAB to be thrown back to the Symbol list, you will be on the symbol you last changed the replacement for.  Hit down arrow to advance to the next returned symbol in the list.  If it's one you wish to change, jump back to Step 3.
6. Once you have done Steps 3 through 5 for all symbols for which you wish to change the replacement, then navigate to the OK button for the dialog and activate it.
7. You're done with symbol editing.
NOTE:  You are most likely to want to edit the replacement for the "naked" character.  For example, if you wish single quotation marks to be announced as "single quote," then once you've entered "tick" in the Filter by edit box, once you tab to the Symbols list down arrow until you hit the solitary/naked instance of the single quote character, as opposed to the one for in-word, or left, or right.
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When I do this in NVDA 2022.2, whether I Filter by individual single quote character for tick or the word tick, the actual symbol is never announced when I jump to the Symbol list in Step 2 the first instance is announced as "in dash word semi," even though what can be seen visually is the phrase "in-word" followed by space followed by the single quote character.  The same is true when "bang" is used as the filter by criteria.

This is definitely not consistent across all characters, most of which first announce the character, followed by semi, followed by replacement then the actual replacement word(s) followed by semi, etc.

What are others getting if they enter either "tick" or "bang" in the Filter by box, then start exploring the Symbols returned in the Symbols list?  I double checked my Default dictionary and cannot see anything I've done there that should cause this issue.
-- 

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly./*

~ Vance Packard