I am confused. I have Eloquence fro Code Factory and I never had a problem
after updating NVDA to the latest.

On Jun 19, 2022, at 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:

Josh, I'm curious for your rationale for mostly using Jaws? If you prefer
it, that's great, go for it (though I would also encourage you to let us
know how we might improve).

The indication is that you prefer Jaws because Code Factory took a few
days to release their updated add-on after NVDA 2022.1 came out? (I think
it took longer for most of us to realise they'd released it), is that
right?

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:44 AM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...
<mailto:joshknnd1982@...>> wrote:
yes that is why I mostly use jaws, now. I only use NVDA to play with old
sapi4 synthesizers that jaws does not support and if I want to use old
versions of softvoice or decTalk.




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On Jun 19, 2022, at 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Josh, I'm curious for your rationale for mostly using Jaws?  If you prefer it, that's great, go for it (though I would also encourage you to let us know how we might improve).

The indication is that you prefer Jaws because Code Factory took a few days to release their updated add-on after NVDA 2022.1 came out?  (I think it took longer for most of us to realise they'd released it), is that right?

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:44 AM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

yes that is why I mostly use jaws, now. I only use NVDA to play with old sapi4 synthesizers that jaws does not support and if I want to use old versions of softvoice or decTalk. 

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Yes that is right but from what I hear there was very little to change from
the last version.
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and Vocalizer Expressive Add-on


> Wow, that was fast, but I thougth that version of nvda was already
> released, or  am I getting confused  with an earlier version released
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>>     Found out today that the download for the Eloquence and Vocalizer
>> Expressive Add-on on both the AT guys and Code Factory web sites have
>> been updated to work with NVDA 2022.1
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Hi Group,

I have noticed that with some recent updates of either NVDA or Windows 11 itself, that particularly if I have multiple windows open, I see what I believe is a phantom windows identified with (insert + T) as 'Task Switcher.'  When this happens, it makes navigation more difficult, slows down the response of the computer and causes annoying efficiency issues.

Has anyone else experienced this lately and if so, what could be causing this and is there a solution?  Thanks for any help.

On Jun 18, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Luke Robinett wrote:

There is another issue, however. I will be typing a line of code and eventually NVDA will start saying “parameter help, parameter help, parameter help” over and over every time I move the cursor left or right or type a key. The only way to get it to stop doing this is to press escape and then arrow away from that line of code and back again. This is a problem because ironically, NVDA repeating “parameter help” is making it so I can’t hear the actual parameter help. Lol.

Does it help to turn off tooltips? (First checkbox in NVDA Object Presentation settings.)

Does it help to turn off "Report dynamic content changes"? (NVDA+5.)

Luke

On Jun 18, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...> wrote:

Hmm, it seems that this issue is specific to 2022.

Actually I too am facing this issue but asked one of my friend who is using 2019, but he told that there's no such issue there.

Have you observed it in 2019 too? actually I haven't used 2019.

On 6/18/2022 9:18 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
2022

On Jun 18, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...> wrote:

Hey Luke,

Which version you are using of VS?

On 6/18/2022 9:01 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
First, good news is that unlike prior versions of visual studio, NVDA now works properly when navigating suggestion lists in the code editor. Previously it would read the entire line of code every time you move from one selection to the next, but now it only reads the selected item.

There is another issue, however. I will be typing a line of code and eventually NVDA will start saying “parameter help, parameter help, parameter help” over and over every time I move the cursor left or right or type a key. The only way to get it to stop doing this is to press escape and then arrow away from that line of code and back again. This is a problem because ironically, NVDA repeating “parameter help” is making it so I can’t hear the actual parameter help. Lol.

Before I place a bug ticket I just thought I’d see if there’s some setting I can adjust to perhaps mitigate this issue. Let me know if my explanation didn’t make sense and I can add clarifying details. All the usual stuff… Latest versions of windows, NVDA, visual studio blah blah blah. Thank you

On Jun 19, 2022, at 6:26 AM, George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

The problem is with Bluetooth Audio version 1.4. I’ll let the author know.

 

When this is disabled, Git Bash has no problems with key echo.

 

Best

George

 

The add-on b

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hmm No idea then.  I just use the Ubuntu or Debian prompt with wsl so I have not used that sorry.    NVDA seems to  work with all the Ubuntu, Debian, Powershell, and cmd.exe.  I wonder if some script needs to be updated.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hi,

 

I have Github for windows installed. It creates a context menu called Git-Bash-Here and pressing this opens the terminal window MINGW64.

 

I get the$ prompt

 

Character echo is working in Jaws and Narrator.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

When you say git bash console do you mean wsl or something else.  The character echo is working for me in wsl.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:21 PM
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Subject: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hi,

 

In Git Bash console, the key echo is not working. In a command prompt it is. It was working prior to 2022.1

 

I tried modifying in advanced settings the new setting for the console It did not seem to do anything.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

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Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

The simplest solution I've found to this problem is making sure you're in focus mode then hitting the End key.  On every YouTube video page I've tried (and those are the ones offered) each successive press of the End key causes the next "chunk" of videos that occur after what's currently already on display to load.  You have to be in Focus mode, as the use of End in this context is a browser keyboard command.

I constantly use both Home and End to shoot to the beginning/end (respectively) of fixed size web pages and will now probably start using End a lot more to trigger "next batch" loading at the current end of a page that loads contents in "chunks."
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