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Version 22.01 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: now available via Add-on Updater and on community add-ons website

 

Hello everyone,

Version 22.01 of the following add-ons are now available via Add-on Updater and on community add-ons website:

  • Add-on Updater
  • Clock
  • Control Usage Assistant
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • GoldWave
  • Resource Monitor
  • StationPlaylist
  • Windows App Essentials

 

In addition, a number of add-ons were also updated.

 

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • The following add-ons are no longer actively maintained: Clock, Enhanced Touch Gestures, GoldWave, Resource Monitor, StationPlaylist. In case of Clock add-on, it is not my own.
  • Control Usage Assistant is now maintained by Noelia Martinez.
  • Add-on Updater: as I announced a few weeks ago, a future version of Add-on Updater will require NVDA 2021.3 or later. To prepare the community, starting from January 20, 2022, Add-on Updater will not offer updated versions of itself if you are using NVDA 2021.2 or earlier. Also, when it comes to issues when checking for NVDA updates on older releases, in addition to downloading NVDA 2021.3.1 manually, you can resolve this by installing Add-on Updater 21.10 or later (in this case, 22.01) from community add-ons website. At this point, I seriously encourage everyone to install a utility to update NVDA add-ons, including Add-on Updater.
  • Windows App Essentials: version 22.01 is the final version to support Windows 10 Version 20H2 (October 2020 Update). The next version of this add-on will require Version 21H1 (May 2021 Update) or later. At this point I urge everyone to at least upgrade to 21H1, or better yet, 21H2 (Version 20H2 will be supported for consumers until May 2022).

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 08:54 AM, tim wrote:
Well if it solved. Then why does the same issue keep coming back, because not solved.
-
The answer is simple:  It doesn't keep coming back.

What's happening is the stragglers who are not updating on a timely basis, nor reading the forum about identified issues like this one, hit the issue much later than the majority and think it's new.  That, and only that, is the problem here.

This bug was solved, and remains solved.  I have yet to hear of a single, solitary person who's installed 2021.3 or later, even if they intentionally rolled back to an earlier version after having done so, having this update issue recur.

And with this post, the topic is locked.  This was not intended to be a discussion, but a way to let those who remained on earlier versions who are now encountering the update issue how to solve it.  And the solution is downloading the installer for the latest NVDA and running it, NOT trying to update from within NVDA itself in those earlier versions because since the problem lies with that mechanism that just doesn't work.
 
There is absolutely no reason to remove any user settings or add-ons to solve THIS particular problem, and it is a complete waste of time and effort to do so.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: update error message

tim
 

Well its getting to look like so.

I haven't gotten it to work sense it started.

Always a reinstall to fix and then wonder what other add ons are broke again!

On 1/13/2022 3:30 PM, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

Just thought I’d see if there’s a new update so I went to the help menu and clicked check for updates.  I got an error.  All it said was “error checking for update.”  Is this a common thing lately?  Is there anything I can do?  This is the first time I’ve ever encountered this issue in my nearly 12 years using NVDA.   

 

Thanks a bunch.  I’ll appreciate any help you can give me.


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

tim
 

Well if it solved. Then why does the same issue keep coming back, because not solved.

If you want to remove NVDA totally.

Just make sure the NVDA folder in program files x86\ NVDA and users\ your account\ apt data\ roaming\ NVDA are deleted.

Then when you reinstall it will find nothing left and install like new.

Without removing the apt data\ roaming\ NVDA folder. All problems with last install will still be there.

may take some time doing a clean remove, but you will waste less time and set it up better.

i never keep program settings, because that may be where the problem is.


On 1/13/2022 5:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
We seem to keep having cycles of "the update issue" which is well known, and already solved, popping up again and again.  I am hoping this Admin Notice will help those who might encounter the issue to fix it just from having read this message.  Please file this if you are using NVDA 2021.1 or 2021.2 (or even some earlier version of NVDA) as you will almost assuredly need this information.

The update problem is cause by a certificate issue and a Windows-based certificate.  It is not a problem with NVDA, per se, but something that NVDA is seeking from Windows when trying to update.  This issue is fixed, permanently, with NVDA Version 2023.1.  The current version of NVDA as of this writing is 2021.3.1.

You cannot fix this problem by trying to update/upgrade from within NVDA, as that's the part that's broken.  You MUST download the latest version of NVDA from NVAccess and use that installer.   For NVDA 2021.3.1, the direct download link for the NVDA installer is:

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2021.3.1/nvda_2021.3.1.exe 

[As an aside, if you're ever looking for an older version of NVDA, just change the "2021.3.1" in both places in the URL with the version number you want.]

After you have the installer in hand, you can either uninstall the current version and then run the new installer (preferable), or do an install-over install by just running the new installer.  Both have worked in my experience, but the former is the one that ensures you are "clean as a whistle" before going forward.

If, by chance, you really need to be on a version of NVDA that is prior to 2021.3.1, then you can reinstall it afterward, and the issue that was causing the update to stall previously will still be fixed, as it is fixed by the certificate tweaking that the installer for 2021.3.1 does in folders not belonging to NVDA.  You can use the download link given above with the  release number changed to the release you want to get.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: SentenceNav settings problem (Re: [nvda] Tony's add-ons: updates and new features)

Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...>
 

Hello Tony,

After fixing the problem myself by looking at examples from the FocusHighlight add-on and using some trial and error, I wanted to create a pull request. However, I found that the problem was already fixed, in a way very similar to mine, by CyrilleB79 in a commit 7 months ago.
Apparently, I had an old version, 2.11. I'll try to upgrade to the newest version soon.

Many thanks again for this great plugin!

Regards, Martin.

On 2022-01-13 04:18, Tony Malykh via groups.io wrote:
I can't fix this as I cannot see this myself. However, if you can fix this - pull request would be welcome.
On 1/10/2022 9:34 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
Hello Tony, others,

I have another problem with the SentenceNav add-on settings panel. This seems to be a problem that only appears visually, not in speech.

What happens is that some of the settings (from "Sentence breakers" down to "Disaple SentenceNav in applications") are all shown on top of the first setting ("Volume of chime when crossing paragraph border"). Because they are on top of each other, only the last one of them is visible.

When I check the program, it seems that all the setting elements that are created via sHelper (gui.guiHelper.BoxSizerHelper) and all the settings with sliders (which use settingSizer, the second argument to the makeSettings) get some space, but all the other settings don't get space.

Because this is a problem of on-screen layout, it may be very difficult to debug. I'm ready to help as much as I can, but any advice regarding layout of settings dialogs is appreciated.

Regards,   Martin.


Re: for people that don't like ribbon in office, new addon: ribbon explorer

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
just a short answer.
This addon was developed with the idea that people can choose a different type of interface.
All people should know how ribbon work and read tutorials and so on.
But then, like sight people can do, we can have a different type of approach and interface.

For example, I know very well the file explorer ribbon interface of windows10 and windows11. I teach this too, since I make lessons for visual impaired.
But on my computer, I use all utilities that remove the stupid ribbon interface and give me the classic menu bar.
This because ribbon for me is a terrible interface. So I have the opportunity to remove it, and my brain thanks me!
But it absolutely be clear that people must know them.
Anyway, I simply wrote a message to inform the list of this addon. I'm not involved on its development.


Re: Work laptop locks even though say all is active

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Brian and Nimer,

 

I have changed the screen time out setting and have also taken Brian’s suggestion to heart about hitting a key from time to time.

 

So far, things are working as in the laptop is no longer going to sleep.

 

Pranav


Re: Can't uninstall NVDA 2021.2 from Windows 10 21h1

George McCoy
 

And a very good point it is, Brian.  Now that I know where the nvda.log file is written, I can try installing from the portable copy and, if it fails, hopefully, the error code will show up in the log file.


On 1/13/2022 5:20 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:08 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, there might be some other thing that might be stuck when you are trying to uninstall NVDA or whatever it is.
-
Indeed.  But the way to determine what those "some other things" might be is by analyzing error messages and/or logs.

As a general rule, always, you need to supply the specific error message text and/or codes when you get them.

Saying to a potential assistant, "I got an error message, can you fix it," is akin to telling someone who can't see you and has no idea where you are on the surface of the earth, "I live on land, can you find me."

Specificity is necessary, not optional, when tech solutions are being sought.  That's the point I'm trying to make.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

Hi,
Thanks for replying. Yes, I have word nav 1.7 installed. In large
files like 400 lines for example, it takes a couple of seconds to say
the word. Is there anything extra to do? I imagine it must be
something complex

2022-01-12 15:44 GMT-03:00, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...>:

Have you tried the latest version of WordNav? I improved its performance
in VSCode.

On 1/12/2022 4:31 AM, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:
Hi Tony!
Thank you so much for your awesome complements. Especially I am really
appreciating the noticeable improvement of indent nav speed in VS
Code. It's great!
I wonder if that improvement in the indent nav algorithm will be
transferable to Word Nav? VS Code doesn't behave as I would like when
navigating with Control and arrows, but with Word Nav it does. The
problem is that in larger files Word Nav causes NVDA to take a long
time to read the words.
Do you think there is a way to fix that related to how you did it with
Indent Nav?

Have a great year!

2022-01-11 17:19 GMT-03:00, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...>:
Hello there, I’m facing a strange issue in  browser nav 2.2, whenever I
try
to use NVDA OCR, the up and down aero keys doesn’t work, at 1st, I
thaught
it’s the problem in the latest version of NVDA, and I downgraded to
2021.3,
but the problem was still there, then I restarted my NVDA with addons
disabled, and the keys were working properly, then, I enabled the addons
1
by 1, and I found this bug with Browser nav addon, please fix it.



Sent from Mail for Windows



From: David Ingram
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's add-ons: updates and new features



I’d like to know how to get rid of ad-ons that are not compatible with
the
latest version of nvda?  thank you.



On Jan 4, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@...>
wrote:



Hello,

Thanks Tony, your add-on is very useful to me, thank you for your great
creation. For sound segmentation, is it possible to place the NVDA
sound
separately on the left or right channel without changing the multimedia
sound? This is useful for enjoying stereo resources.

Thanks again










locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:44 PM, Gene wrote:
Perhaps this discussion may help many people realize that they can update easily even if the updater doesn’t work for some reason. 
-
I certainly hope so.

I have, on occasions, been called upon to install special builds to test fixes to bugs I've reported.  I've always just slapped those in and then slapped the production version back in afterward without ever backing up a single user setting or add-on I have installed.

They just stay there.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes they sure could. I do that and have without any issues, still though it’s good to have a fall back in case something borks.

 

I dun no if that will help but here’s hoping.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

Could the user run the installer and leve the currently installed version in place?  Even if the user should uninstall the current version, from what you say, installing the new version after uninstalling the currently installed version would not mean that anything was lost or very little, if anything.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

Gene,

A typical uninstall of NVDA (like a lot of programs) does not remove user settings by default.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled on multiple occasions and all of my user settings and add-ons have remained entirely intact (with the exception, of course, of certain incompatible add-ons being disabled if the newer version of NVDA determines them to be incompatible.  But that doesn't count, as it's by design, and the add-ons aren't removed, they're still shown in add-ons manager and disabled).

If someone wants to create a portable version of the current instance of NVDA with all settings, then more power to them.  But it's generally unnecessary.

Most modern programs employ the individual user account's AppData directory (which is normally an invisible folder in Windows unless you tweak things to make it show) to store things like settings and the like that are user selected, and uninstalls almost never remove these by default, though many give the option of removing them if you don't intend to reinstall, and the dialogs related to the removal make that very clear.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh no I’m paranoid. Lol! I’d be the one that does the portable install before uninstalling just in case as I’m cursed. Hardy har har.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

Gene,

A typical uninstall of NVDA (like a lot of programs) does not remove user settings by default.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled on multiple occasions and all of my user settings and add-ons have remained entirely intact (with the exception, of course, of certain incompatible add-ons being disabled if the newer version of NVDA determines them to be incompatible.  But that doesn't count, as it's by design, and the add-ons aren't removed, they're still shown in add-ons manager and disabled).

If someone wants to create a portable version of the current instance of NVDA with all settings, then more power to them.  But it's generally unnecessary.

Most modern programs employ the individual user account's AppData directory (which is normally an invisible folder in Windows unless you tweak things to make it show) to store things like settings and the like that are user selected, and uninstalls almost never remove these by default, though many give the option of removing them if you don't intend to reinstall, and the dialogs related to the removal make that very clear.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

Gene
 

I’m glad manually updating is so easy.  Perhaps this discussion may help many people realize that they can update easily even if the updater doesn’t work for some reason. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice
 
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:25 PM, Gene wrote:
Will you be warned about what you will lose during installation?
-
Gene,

No, because you would never lose anything during installation.

It's been ages since I paid attention to exactly what happens during an NVDA uninstall.  I'm on complete auto-pilot and just know what I need to hit to get it to uninstall while leaving my stuff in place.  There is no correctly written uninstaller that will not warn you if, during the uninstall, your user settings were being removed along with the software as well.  They're generally not, and most modern uninstallers have an explicit dialog that asks you whether you intend to reinstall or not, and if you do not if you wish to remove your user data as well.

I'll bet Quentin sees this topic and can answer definitively about what NVDA asks during the uninstall process.

I've also never had an issue with an install-over install, either, as this doesn't touch the user's AppData folder, either, and it's been just like an uninstall/reinstall when I've done it.  That is, for all practical intents and purposes, what an "upgrade from within NVDA itself" does.  I believe the NVDA installer will uninstall an existing prior version when it runs, no matter how it was triggered, if memory serves.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:25 PM, Gene wrote:
Will you be warned about what you will lose during installation?
-
Gene,

No, because you would never lose anything during installation.

It's been ages since I paid attention to exactly what happens during an NVDA uninstall.  I'm on complete auto-pilot and just know what I need to hit to get it to uninstall while leaving my stuff in place.  There is no correctly written uninstaller that will not warn you if, during the uninstall, your user settings were being removed along with the software as well.  They're generally not, and most modern uninstallers have an explicit dialog that asks you whether you intend to reinstall or not, and if you do not if you wish to remove your user data as well.

I'll bet Quentin sees this topic and can answer definitively about what NVDA asks during the uninstall process.

I've also never had an issue with an install-over install, either, as this doesn't touch the user's AppData folder, either, and it's been just like an uninstall/reinstall when I've done it.  That is, for all practical intents and purposes, what an "upgrade from within NVDA itself" does.  I believe the NVDA installer will uninstall an existing prior version when it runs, no matter how it was triggered, if memory serves.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: update error message

Quentin Christensen
 

We did put out an add-on with the fix, but that was only a stop-gap measure - once NVDA 2021.3 (and now 2021.3.1) came out, we would recommend anyone still experiencing the issue of errors checking for updates, to please download the latest version manually from https://www.nvaccess.org/ - you can go to https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3-1/ to see what is new - as mentioned, once you install that when it checks for updates it will prompt Windows to ensure it has the latest security certificates (which was the issue originally).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 8:08 AM Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Yes, you will have to download and install the nvda installer manually, it cannot be done through check for updates, once you have updated manually it should update normally from now on

 

 

From: Ame
Sent: 13 January 2022 20:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] update error message

 

Hi all!

 

Just thought I’d see if there’s a new update so I went to the help menu and clicked check for updates.  I got an error.  All it said was “error checking for update.”  Is this a common thing lately?  Is there anything I can do?  This is the first time I’ve ever encountered this issue in my nearly 12 years using NVDA.   

 

Thanks a bunch.  I’ll appreciate any help you can give me.

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

Gene
 

I should revise what I said.  I don’t know if the currently installed version should be uninstalled before installing the new version but from what you say, nothing will be lost even if you uninstall the version you are running before installing the current version except uncompatible add-ons. 
 
Will you be warned about what you will lose during installation?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice
 
Could the user run the installer and leve the currently installed version in place?  Even if the user should uninstall the current version, from what you say, installing the new version after uninstalling the currently installed version would not mean that anything was lost or very little, if anything.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice
 
Gene,

A typical uninstall of NVDA (like a lot of programs) does not remove user settings by default.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled on multiple occasions and all of my user settings and add-ons have remained entirely intact (with the exception, of course, of certain incompatible add-ons being disabled if the newer version of NVDA determines them to be incompatible.  But that doesn't count, as it's by design, and the add-ons aren't removed, they're still shown in add-ons manager and disabled).

If someone wants to create a portable version of the current instance of NVDA with all settings, then more power to them.  But it's generally unnecessary.

Most modern programs employ the individual user account's AppData directory (which is normally an invisible folder in Windows unless you tweak things to make it show) to store things like settings and the like that are user selected, and uninstalls almost never remove these by default, though many give the option of removing them if you don't intend to reinstall, and the dialogs related to the removal make that very clear.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Can't uninstall NVDA 2021.2 from Windows 10 21h1

 

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:08 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, there might be some other thing that might be stuck when you are trying to uninstall NVDA or whatever it is.
-
Indeed.  But the way to determine what those "some other things" might be is by analyzing error messages and/or logs.

As a general rule, always, you need to supply the specific error message text and/or codes when you get them.

Saying to a potential assistant, "I got an error message, can you fix it," is akin to telling someone who can't see you and has no idea where you are on the surface of the earth, "I live on land, can you find me."

Specificity is necessary, not optional, when tech solutions are being sought.  That's the point I'm trying to make.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

Gene
 

Could the user run the installer and leve the currently installed version in place?  Even if the user should uninstall the current version, from what you say, installing the new version after uninstalling the currently installed version would not mean that anything was lost or very little, if anything.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice
 
Gene,

A typical uninstall of NVDA (like a lot of programs) does not remove user settings by default.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled on multiple occasions and all of my user settings and add-ons have remained entirely intact (with the exception, of course, of certain incompatible add-ons being disabled if the newer version of NVDA determines them to be incompatible.  But that doesn't count, as it's by design, and the add-ons aren't removed, they're still shown in add-ons manager and disabled).

If someone wants to create a portable version of the current instance of NVDA with all settings, then more power to them.  But it's generally unnecessary.

Most modern programs employ the individual user account's AppData directory (which is normally an invisible folder in Windows unless you tweak things to make it show) to store things like settings and the like that are user selected, and uninstalls almost never remove these by default, though many give the option of removing them if you don't intend to reinstall, and the dialogs related to the removal make that very clear.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


locked Re: Update issues - NVDA 2021.1 & 2 along with Add-Ons in those two Versions #adminnotice

 

Gene,

A typical uninstall of NVDA (like a lot of programs) does not remove user settings by default.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled on multiple occasions and all of my user settings and add-ons have remained entirely intact (with the exception, of course, of certain incompatible add-ons being disabled if the newer version of NVDA determines them to be incompatible.  But that doesn't count, as it's by design, and the add-ons aren't removed, they're still shown in add-ons manager and disabled).

If someone wants to create a portable version of the current instance of NVDA with all settings, then more power to them.  But it's generally unnecessary.

Most modern programs employ the individual user account's AppData directory (which is normally an invisible folder in Windows unless you tweak things to make it show) to store things like settings and the like that are user selected, and uninstalls almost never remove these by default, though many give the option of removing them if you don't intend to reinstall, and the dialogs related to the removal make that very clear.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Can't uninstall NVDA 2021.2 from Windows 10 21h1

Arlene
 

Hi, there might be some other thing that might be stuck when you are trying to uninstall NVDA or whatever it is.  I had this happen when I tried to uninstall NVDA 2019 when my windows 7 was about to bite the dust. I was getting rid of things on there.  When I tried to uninstall NVDA. There were error messages. Don’t ask me what it was. I’ll make it up. It was something like 8554something something. I told the tec person at the source where I got this ten box. He knew what the errors were. He did fix something in the windows bios or some place.  He thanked me for telling him the error messages.  He did scrub the hard drive and recycled it. 

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: January 13, 2022 7:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't uninstall NVDA 2021.2 from Windows 10 21h1

 

You need to supply error messages.

Failure to install is a completely different thing than failure to upgrade from within.

One thing I always suggest when any "weirdness" is occurring under Windows 8 or later is:  Using DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) and SFC (System File Checker) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

If you're still unable to install error messages from Windows would be the next thing an assistant would need to know.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

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