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Re: Sleep mode question
Joseph Norton
Hi:
Yes, it does get interesting.
Thing is, you are able to turn on sleep mode, but, then, you can’t use any NVDA command to do anything, like save the current profile so sleep mode stays on. So, a profile won’t actually accomplish this.
Seems like there was something I could do, relating to the Python console, or some such, but, I didn’t archive it. Hmmm, though, I might search the list archives and see if I can locate it.
Cheers!
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 1:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Sleep mode question
Well, it gets more and more interesting with regard to Sleep Mode. After a little experimenting, where I used a specific Notepad window (one of the three I have open) where I put NVDA to sleep with NVDA + Shift + S (Desktop keyboard layout): Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Reading time positions of tracks in studio recorder
Saylor Cooper
Hello NVDA users,
Is there anyone on here that uses the studio recorder editing software from APH because if so, I have some clarifications on how to navigate it with NVDA. When I’m using Jaws and I press Ctrl home or end, it tells me which position of time I am on in the editing workspace like zero minutes and 30 seconds or 20 minutes and 30 seconds. However it does not announce anything with NVDA. Therefore how can I get it to announce those timestamps? Saylor Cooper
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Thank you Gene. I was losing hope that anybody would answer my question. Not that the additional drift wasn’t informative to read, but those weren’t what I asked about. Marilyn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 8:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers
You can set NVDA not to announce visited links. To do this, open document formatting, control d, and tab to visited links. It's a checkbox. Press the space bar to uncheck it, then activate the ok button.
Gene On 1/15/2022 7:33 PM, Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Gene
While on the subject of visited links, it is important to say that if you delete your browser history, you will lose all visited links. The browser keeps that information in history. Off and on, I see people advising to delete browser history to see if it solves a problem. I don't know if doing so might solve any problems but those who use or rely on visited links should know they will lose all of them if they do this. I'm skeptical that removing history solves problems to any extent anyway but whatever the case, this is seldom stated when people make such recommendations and it is important to be stated.
I don't recall if someone asked how to move to visited links. V moves you to the next visited link, shift v moves you to the previous one.
On 1/15/2022 5:56 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Doesn't JAWS do this as well? NVDA and JAWS both have had shortcuts for links (whether visited or unvisited), visited link, and unvisited link, in their keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember. I also thought both announced, when you landed on a link, it's previous visitation status.
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Gene
You can set NVDA not to announce visited links. To do this, open document formatting, control d, and tab to visited links. It's a checkbox. Press the space bar to uncheck it, then activate the ok button.
Gene
On 1/15/2022 7:33 PM, Marilyn and Don
Bilderback wrote:
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 09:43 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I believe it shows a different color so I've been told.- That would be correct. Unvisited links are in one color (generally blue unless customized) and visited ones in another (generally gray). These can be customized. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: Microsoft Edge Suddenly Less Accessible with NVDA
Ron Canazzi
Hi Joseph,
I am not experiencing this issue. I just did a google search and everything functioned as it should. Here is my version number: Microsoft EdgeVersion 97.0.1072.62 (Official build) (64-bit) Also it says I am up to date. On 1/15/2022 7:32 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
-- Signature: For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice; For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
I believe it shows a different color so I've been told. It's interesting all of this.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 6:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers The visited link is a standare web browser thing. Not sure what it shows visually if their are visited links, but yes all screen readers encluding NVDA as you already know announce these. On 1/15/2022 6:46 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote: I want to thank whoever decided to let NVDA tell you when you just
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
The visited link is a standare web browser thing. Not sure what it shows visually if their are visited links, but yes all screen readers encluding NVDA as you already know announce these.
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On 1/15/2022 6:46 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I want to thank whoever decided to let NVDA tell you when you just visited a link. I was on our state legislative site having to copy and paste in a file the information about each senator. With my dementia I cannot remember which link I was on last and without having to go back to the list I was making it was great to have NVDA just say "visited link" on the ones I had already opened. I knew it did it but really noticed it this time as the dementia is getting a lot worse.
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
The visited link is a standare web browser thing. Not sure what it shows visually if their are visited links, but yes all screen readers encluding NVDA as you already know announce these.
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On 1/15/2022 6:46 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I want to thank whoever decided to let NVDA tell you when you just visited a link. I was on our state legislative site having to copy and paste in a file the information about each senator. With my dementia I cannot remember which link I was on last and without having to go back to the list I was making it was great to have NVDA just say "visited link" on the ones I had already opened. I knew it did it but really noticed it this time as the dementia is getting a lot worse.
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Marilyn and Don Bilderback
What key strokes eliminate the announcement of visited link? I assume you don’t have to have it. I am using NVDA. Marilyn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 6:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 07:56 PM, Arlene wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 07:56 PM, Arlene wrote:
Yes, Jaws still does say visited link.- Thanks. I didn't think this was distinctive to NVDA. I think Narrator does it, too. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Arlene
Yes, Jaws still does say visited link. If you are on a huge site it still does.
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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 15, 2022 4:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers
I believe jaws does this, or did when I last used it in 2009. You can have this setting turned off, but yeah I don’t as my memory is crummy at best, thanks condition I didn’t know I had until 2019.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Doesn't JAWS do this as well? NVDA and JAWS both have had shortcuts for links (whether visited or unvisited), visited link, and unvisited link, in their keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember. I also thought both announced, when you landed on a link, it's previous visitation status. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: Microsoft Edge Suddenly Less Accessible with NVDA
Hi everyone, No, this is not an add-on issue. I just tried searching for something with Google via Edge 97 and received a traceback that ends with COM error, and the traceback does not point to add-on code (if it did, a code fragment from the add-on will be printed). It turns out switching to Chrome might not be a good idea at this time - I tried the same thing with Chrome and received the same COM error traceback. In fact, NV Access is aware of this issue that began when Chromium 97 based browsers hit the stable channel as shown in the following NVDA issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13223 Therefore, I can tell you all that you are not alone. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
I believe jaws does this, or did when I last used it in 2009. You can have this setting turned off, but yeah I don’t as my memory is crummy at best, thanks condition I didn’t know I had until 2019.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 3:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers
Doesn't JAWS do this as well? NVDA and JAWS both have had shortcuts for links (whether visited or unvisited), visited link, and unvisited link, in their keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember. I also thought both announced, when you landed on a link, it's previous visitation status. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Betsy Grenevitch
I was not a JAWS user so have no idea to this question. WindowEyes and now NVDA were far easier for me to use.
On 1/15/2022 6:56 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Doesn't JAWS do this as well? NVDA and JAWS both have had shortcuts for links (whether visited or unvisited), visited link, and unvisited link, in their keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember. I also thought both announced, when you landed on a link, it's previous visitation status. --
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 cursor doesn't move in Google product edit fields
If, at some point, when someone is certain that they can consistently replicate the behavior, I'd be happy to have a quick remote session with Windows Quick Assist so that I can determine whether the cursor is indeed moving, and NVDA is silent, or if it has stalled.
One of the quickest ways to rule out the possiblity of an add-on being at fault is restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and try the process again. If it recurs, it's almost certainly NVDA itself, and if it doesn't, it's almost certainly an add-on that's the culprit. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 cursor doesn't move in Google product edit fields
Louise Pfau
Hi. I'll try to isolate if there is an add-on behind it. I get typing echo when I type in the Google edit fields, but no spoken feedback when I navigate with the ARROW KEYS in the event that I made a typo that I want to correct. That's what led me to believe that the cursor wasn't moving. I tried navigating within another application's edit field to isolate the issue to Google products before I posted the original message.
Louise
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
Doesn't JAWS do this as well? NVDA and JAWS both have had shortcuts for links (whether visited or unvisited), visited link, and unvisited link, in their keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember. I also thought both announced, when you landed on a link, it's previous visitation status.
I'm just curious if any JAWS and NVDA users, and I know we've got those, can either confirm or refute my memory. I just realized a couple of days ago that it has been almost 4 years since I last had a client where I was tutoring JAWS. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are. ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)
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Re: a big thank you to the programmers
I also use this as well, it's grate to keep track of things, especially on huge sites you visit infrequently.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 3:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] a big thank you to the programmers I want to thank whoever decided to let NVDA tell you when you just visited a link. I was on our state legislative site having to copy and paste in a file the information about each senator. With my dementia I cannot remember which link I was on last and without having to go back to the list I was making it was great to have NVDA just say "visited link" on the ones I had already opened. I knew it did it but really noticed it this time as the dementia is getting a lot worse. I know I have said this out here before, but I want to thank those again who have helped me through the years write down step-by-step directions for different tasks I need to use. I used some of those directions again today. I am already giving a very small amount each month but hope in about three years to add more to that amount each month. I do not know where I would be without NVDA. Thanks again. -- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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