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Reading be accessible name of an interactive components in screen readers

Eilana Benish
 

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.


Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and ideas



Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

God bless you, Tony. I'll give it a try.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mani Iyer via groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 15:52
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Hello Tony,

This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it.


Thank you so much.


Warmly,

Mani



On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:


Hi,


As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.


Tony


        Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer

    Keyboard shortcut
Command

Control-a
 Select All

Control-b
Bold text

Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
 Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify

keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.  
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only

Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard

control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard  

  control-E
Centers text

Control f
Find text

Control    -g
Go To

control-H
Find and replace Text

Control-I
Italicize text

Control-J
Justify Text

Control-l
Left align text

Control-r
Right align text

Control-n
Creates a new blank Document

Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box

Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
    
Control-S
Saves the current open Document.  If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case  of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
    
 Control u
Underlines text

Control-y
 redoes your last action

control-z
 undoes your last action

Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript

Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript

Control-Enter
Page break

Navigation Keyboard shortcuts

left arrow
moves one character to the left

shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
   
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right

up arrow
moves up one line

Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction

Down arrow
Moves down one line

Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction

Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left

control-right arrow
moves one word to the right

Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left

Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right

Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph

Control-shift-up arrow
 highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph

Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph

Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
 shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
 
 End
Moves  to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line

Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document


Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document

Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document

Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document

Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)

Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)

Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen

Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen

Control-Backspace
Ce

Deletes the text to the beginning of the word

Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word

Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence

Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence






On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


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Re: LibreOffice?

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Thanks a million.
Blessings.


----- Original Message -----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 14:05
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi


The following web page has a tutorial on how to use the program as well with nvda.

This is for the program you are looking at.


Jump down to the heading I think it is called tutorials for talking computers, there is a link below it that takes you to where they are..


The link to nvda tutorials for other programs is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There may also be other tutorials on this page of interest as well.


Gene nz


On 4/12/2021 8:57 am, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodrýguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Monte,


Not a problem brother.


Tony

On 12/3/2021 4:52 PM, Mani Iyer via groups.io wrote:
Hello Tony,
This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it.

Thank you so much.

Warmly,
Mani


On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,


As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.


Tony


        Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer

    Keyboard shortcut
Command

Control-a
 Select All

Control-b
Bold text

Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
 Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify

keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.  
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only

Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard

control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard  

  control-E
Centers text

Control f
Find text

Control    -g
Go To

control-H
Find and replace Text

Control-I
Italicize text

Control-J
Justify Text

Control-l
Left align text

Control-r
Right align text

Control-n
Creates a new blank Document

Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box

Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
    
Control-S
Saves the current open Document.  If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case  of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
    
 Control u
Underlines text

Control-y
 redoes your last action

control-z
 undoes your last action

Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript

Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript

Control-Enter
Page break

Navigation Keyboard shortcuts

left arrow
moves one character to the left

shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
   
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right

up arrow
moves up one line

Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction

Down arrow
Moves down one line

Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction

Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left

control-right arrow
moves one word to the right

Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left

Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right

Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph

Control-shift-up arrow
 highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph

Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph

Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
 shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
 
 End
Moves  to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line

Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document


Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document

Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document

Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document

Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)

Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)

Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen

Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen

Control-Backspace
Ce

Deletes the text to the beginning of the word

Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word

Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence

Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence






On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Mani Iyer
 

Hello Tony,
This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it.

Thank you so much.

Warmly,
Mani


On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,


As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.


Tony


        Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer

    Keyboard shortcut
Command

Control-a
 Select All

Control-b
Bold text

Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
 Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify

keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.  
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only

Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard

control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard  

  control-E
Centers text

Control f
Find text

Control    -g
Go To

control-H
Find and replace Text

Control-I
Italicize text

Control-J
Justify Text

Control-l
Left align text

Control-r
Right align text

Control-n
Creates a new blank Document

Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box

Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
    
Control-S
Saves the current open Document.  If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case  of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
    
 Control u
Underlines text

Control-y
 redoes your last action

control-z
 undoes your last action

Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript

Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript

Control-Enter
Page break

Navigation Keyboard shortcuts

left arrow
moves one character to the left

shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
   
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right

up arrow
moves up one line

Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction

Down arrow
Moves down one line

Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction

Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left

control-right arrow
moves one word to the right

Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left

Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right

Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph

Control-shift-up arrow
 highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph

Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph

Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
 shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
 
 End
Moves  to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line

Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document


Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document

Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document

Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document

Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)

Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)

Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen

Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen

Control-Backspace
Ce

Deletes the text to the beginning of the word

Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word

Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence

Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence






On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Calc

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Calc.


Tony


Libre office calc keyboard shortcuts

section 1 Menu shortcuts

file menu shortcut keys

alt-f opens the file menu

once opened, the first option is the new sub-menu.  Pressing the right arrow key gives you access to the following options. Note, when possible, using first letter navigation here will perform the desired task as well.

Pressing t will open a new text document
Pressing s will open a new spreadsheet
Pressing p will open a new presentation
Pressing d will open a new drawing
pressing b will open a new database
Pressing H will open a new HTML document
Pressing x will open a new XML form
Pressing a will open a new Master Document
Pressing o will open a new Formula
Pressing L will open the new labels option
Pressing U will open the new business cards option
Pressing m will open the Templates option

The next menu item is the open command which is accessed by hitting alt-f, o or the more commonly used ctrl-o once the program is onscreene

The next command in this menu is the remote files option which is accessed by pressing f

The next option in the file menu is the recent documents sub-menu which is accessed by pressing u
pressing the right arrow will open a list of the most recent documents you were working with.  At the end of the list a clear all option appears.  Hitting the letter c will clear the entire list.

The next item is the close option which is accessed by pressing c

Following
the close choice is the wizard sub-menu which is accessed by hitting the letter w.  The following choice are available:

Letter,  fax, agenda, Presentation, web page, document converter, euro converter, and data source. Using first letter navigation will open each of these items.

The next item is the templates sub-menu.  The options that are available are save as template which is accessed by hitting shift-f11, and manage templates which is accessed by hitting ctrl-shift-n


Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.


Tony


        Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer

    Keyboard shortcut
Command

Control-a
 Select All

Control-b
Bold text

Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
 Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify

keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.  
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only

Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard

control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard  

  control-E
Centers text

Control f
Find text

Control    -g
Go To

control-H
Find and replace Text

Control-I
Italicize text

Control-J
Justify Text

Control-l
Left align text

Control-r
Right align text

Control-n
Creates a new blank Document

Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box

Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
    
Control-S
Saves the current open Document.  If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case  of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
    
 Control u
Underlines text

Control-y
 redoes your last action

control-z
 undoes your last action

Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript

Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript

Control-Enter
Page break

Navigation Keyboard shortcuts

left arrow
moves one character to the left

shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
   
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right

up arrow
moves up one line

Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction

Down arrow
Moves down one line

Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction

Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left

control-right arrow
moves one word to the right

Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left

Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right

Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph

Control-shift-up arrow
 highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph

Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph

Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
 shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
 
 End
Moves  to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line

Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document


Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document

Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document

Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document

Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)

Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)

Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen

Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen

Control-Backspace
Ce

Deletes the text to the beginning of the word

Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word

Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence

Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence






On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If that was the case I wish they would of mentioned it and left some thing saying about it been moved to a later date rather than get to the day and you have no idea.


Gene nz


On 4/12/2021 6:37 am, Jujube wrote:
It's probably been moved to some time in early 2022. I think they were in a bit too much of a hurry to organize it in time hence the delay.?

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:36 AM Khalid Anwar <anwarkhalid850@...> wrote:
I thought it was going to be this weekend, but I looked on the website for the zoom link and it’s not there.
Has it been cancelled this year?


Re: LibreOffice?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following web page has a tutorial on how to use the program as well with nvda.

This is for the program you are looking at.


Jump down to the heading I think it is called tutorials for talking computers, there is a link below it that takes you to where they are..


The link to nvda tutorials for other programs is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There may also be other tutorials on this page of interest as well.


Gene nz


On 4/12/2021 8:57 am, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


Re: LibreOffice?

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.

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Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con

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Yes it has. Reach out to Derrek Reemer if you want the details. Its a damn shame they couldn't get their poop together to get this thing off the ground.

On 12/3/2021 12:36 PM, Khalid Anwar wrote:
I thought it was going to be this weekend, but I looked on the website for the zoom link and it’s not there.
Has it been cancelled this year?


Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con

Jujube
 

It's probably been moved to some time in early 2022. I think they were in a bit too much of a hurry to organize it in time hence the delay.?


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:36 AM Khalid Anwar <anwarkhalid850@...> wrote:
I thought it was going to be this weekend, but I looked on the website for the zoom link and it’s not there.
Has it been cancelled this year?


Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con

Khalid Anwar
 

I thought it was going to be this weekend, but I looked on the website for the zoom link and it’s not there.
Has it been cancelled this year?


Re: NVDA Portable Start

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You need a space between the CD and the backslash like this

Cd c:\ etc.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: 28 November 2021 01:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Portable Start

Here's the batch file; only three lines:

@echo off
cd\nvda211
NVDA.exe

This is my second try. First try did not have the cd command but just said:

@echo off
nvda211\NVDA.exe

Of course, that batch file is in the root of the thumb drive.

When I start NVDA using the Batch file, the (assumed) title bar says:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe


The rest of the screen appears to be blank.

Howard


On 11/27/2021 7:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
How is NVDA invoked in that batch file? And by that I mean please
copy and paste the line from the batch file that fires up NVDA.

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Re: LibreOffice?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:
Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

 

On that note I wander if easy converter express can convert epub to other formats.

I have this and office so I can convert everything to doc but really its a 2 step thing doc then text, hmph.



On 4/12/2021 12:59 am, Ikrami wrote:

Have you tried bookworm? It is a free, open-source, fully accessible and efficient e-book reader designed for the blind by the blind. Check it here:

 

https://github.com/blindpandas/bookworm

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] eBook Readers with NVDA

 

Thorium Reader is another option: https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/

 

(It gets a mention in this week's In-Process which is out later today)

 

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 AM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Edge can probably read epub files with a plugin,b ut not natively. I've tried a few plugins for both chromium and firefox and there seem to be accessibility issues with many of them. I just use various tools to convert to .txt file for the most part. Qread can do this but it scrambles character encoding sometimes, rending things like quotation marks and accents a whole lot of nonsense characters on my braille display.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 2, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] eBook Readers with NVDA

I use QRead myself, but lots of people don't like it because the author will abandon things for long periods of time. Still, for me, it works pretty well, I haven't found another program that reads all of the formats it does. But you do have other options. Edge can read .EPUB files, I'm pretty sure, and lots of things can read PDFs nowadays, most browsers for example. If they won't come up as text you'll have to OCR them with something anyway, in order to read them.


I've never gotten Calibre to do much of anything. Personally I wouldn't restrict myself to something like the iPhone, not only because I don't own one, but also because then you're stuck with whatever Apple has.
There are lots of books that aren't in Apple's format.


Another option you didn't mention is Kindle for PC. This is accessible and works well with NVDA, so much so that I signed up for Kindle unlimited. There's also Bookshare, and NLS if you're in the US, or whatever library service you've got in your country, in case you're not hooked up with something like that.


On 12/2/2021 11:05 AM, David Russell wrote:
> Hello NVDA,
> This post is about eBook accessibility options with NVDA.
> Please comment on which may be the best alternative for one without
> vision, using NVDA to work with an acquired eBook reader?
> 1. QRead, is a pay-for product, designed by a blind user, Chris Toth.
> 2.  Calibre Reader, formerly used by the customer service rep at my
> regional Library Service for the Blind. However, she is sighted. She
> could not offer specifics. Her blind colleague has limited experience
> or knowledge concerning this issue.
> 3.  Forego the first two options, purchase eBooks from Apple Bookstore
> and read on iPhone.
> 4.  Get a paid subscription to use Scribde with NVDA screen reader.
>
> Previously, I have published and purchased a couple other books on
> SmashWords. However, authors are opting for less readily accessible
> means (Adobe PDF, TXT, or HTML) for one who purchases and read titles.
> More so, formats becoming standard are Moby and or ePub. Hence, this
> requires one to have an eBook reader.
>
> Thanks for comment(s) in advance.
>










 

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Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

 

Not yet but my plan is to try to maybe review some of these later on.

Of course weather I will do this before christmas is another thing.

What may happen is that on christmas day or one of those dead days  I will probably do a podcast.

Christmas day is at my place and only in the evening.

So chances are since it is christmas I will not be going to the gym as I usually do on a saturday.

Being its my own personal gym but even so.

Anyway who knows.

I'll note it down.

What I really want is a good ebook converter, ie epub, to htm, text, etc mobi, etc.

Pdf I have plenty of converters but even so I'd like one.

Calibre is a good software package to use but the codex frontend just makes it a lot better.

Its just a pitty no one works on it.

What needs to happen is someone other than me can find the old site james had with the latest compiled version, I'd do it but forget where on wayback I should look and somehow preserve it so at least we can still use that version.

I like codex for its ease of use to convert the books to something else I can read, like text or something.



On 4/12/2021 12:59 am, Ikrami wrote:

Have you tried bookworm? It is a free, open-source, fully accessible and efficient e-book reader designed for the blind by the blind. Check it here:

 

https://github.com/blindpandas/bookworm

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] eBook Readers with NVDA

 

Thorium Reader is another option: https://www.edrlab.org/software/thorium-reader/

 

(It gets a mention in this week's In-Process which is out later today)

 

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 AM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

Edge can probably read epub files with a plugin,b ut not natively. I've tried a few plugins for both chromium and firefox and there seem to be accessibility issues with many of them. I just use various tools to convert to .txt file for the most part. Qread can do this but it scrambles character encoding sometimes, rending things like quotation marks and accents a whole lot of nonsense characters on my braille display.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 2, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] eBook Readers with NVDA

I use QRead myself, but lots of people don't like it because the author will abandon things for long periods of time. Still, for me, it works pretty well, I haven't found another program that reads all of the formats it does. But you do have other options. Edge can read .EPUB files, I'm pretty sure, and lots of things can read PDFs nowadays, most browsers for example. If they won't come up as text you'll have to OCR them with something anyway, in order to read them.


I've never gotten Calibre to do much of anything. Personally I wouldn't restrict myself to something like the iPhone, not only because I don't own one, but also because then you're stuck with whatever Apple has.
There are lots of books that aren't in Apple's format.


Another option you didn't mention is Kindle for PC. This is accessible and works well with NVDA, so much so that I signed up for Kindle unlimited. There's also Bookshare, and NLS if you're in the US, or whatever library service you've got in your country, in case you're not hooked up with something like that.


On 12/2/2021 11:05 AM, David Russell wrote:
> Hello NVDA,
> This post is about eBook accessibility options with NVDA.
> Please comment on which may be the best alternative for one without
> vision, using NVDA to work with an acquired eBook reader?
> 1. QRead, is a pay-for product, designed by a blind user, Chris Toth.
> 2.  Calibre Reader, formerly used by the customer service rep at my
> regional Library Service for the Blind. However, she is sighted. She
> could not offer specifics. Her blind colleague has limited experience
> or knowledge concerning this issue.
> 3.  Forego the first two options, purchase eBooks from Apple Bookstore
> and read on iPhone.
> 4.  Get a paid subscription to use Scribde with NVDA screen reader.
>
> Previously, I have published and purchased a couple other books on
> SmashWords. However, authors are opting for less readily accessible
> means (Adobe PDF, TXT, or HTML) for one who purchases and read titles.
> More so, formats becoming standard are Moby and or ePub. Hence, this
> requires one to have an eBook reader.
>
> Thanks for comment(s) in advance.
>










 

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eBook Readers with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hello All,

I will probably choose between the iPhone, Bookworm, and Scribbed
after reading through the responses you graciously provided.
I'm not as tech savvy as some, so simple is desired.
I tend to steer clear of Amazon for personal reasons as an author and
reader. Thus I am not going to choose Kindle. I found GooglePlay
usable with NVDA and eBooks, but only my Google Smart Speaker if the
book is audio.
The anthology I am interested in is published to Amazon, SmashWords,
Apple, Kobo, and Barnes and Noble. The plan is to add more venues
later.
Authors on SmashWords again, seem to be choosing between EPUB, Moby
and perhaps a third as format choice. Finding PDF, HTML, or plain text
is becoming rare. Thanks again and happy holidays to all!

David

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Re: LibreOffice?

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Never mind, Quentin. I'll give it a try.
God bless you.


----- Original Message -----
From: Quentin Christensen
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, December 02, 2021 23:53
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

No, you didn't anger me at all!  I'm sorry if my response came across that way, I think something might have been lost in translation along the way.  Your questions are perfectly good questions and definitely acceptable here.


I admit I didn't go back and check our previous conversation before replying, but by simply answering the questions with as much detail as possible, I figured it might help anyone else who comes along and finds the question in the group.


Do please feel encouraged to download LibreOffice and give it a go: https://www.libreoffice.org/


And let us know how you find it and anything you get stuck with.


Kind regards


Quentin.


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:44 PM Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Okay, Sir. I get the impression that this message angered you but I don't understand why. As I said, I don't remember exactly what we talked, though I am aware that we had a conversation about this topic. Of course I'm referring to the legal version of Eloquence TTS. However, I don't have a Microsoft Office subscription yet. I'm learning to use NVDA little by little. Please do not forget that I'm completely new to this. For this reason, I thought every single question made sense.
I sincerely apologize to you.


----- Original Message -----
From: Quentin Christensen
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, December 02, 2021 23:05
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

LibreOffice is a free alternative to Microsoft Office.  So the first couple of questions actually don't apply:


- The Antivirus you use would be the same across the computer.  Any anti-virus which works on your PC should be just fine with LibreOffice

- By Eloquence I hope you are referring to the legal version.  In any case, the synthesizer simply reads whatever text NVDA passes to it.  So if something won't read in LibreOffice, it is likely because that feature is not accessible, and it won't matter what synthesizer you use.


The last one (paraphrased):

- Are all the functions and features from Microsoft Office available in LibreOffice


Is the key question.  The majority of features of Microsoft Office are available in LibreOffice.  There likely are some which aren't, but most will be.  The key considering however, is that not all of the features are as accessible as the equivalent features in Microsoft Office are.  Again, many are, but some may not be.  


If you currently have a Microsoft Office subscription, I would recommend trying LibreOffice and deciding whether it works for what you need before your Microsoft subscription runs out, so you can make an informed decision as to whether to continue it or not.


Kind regards


Quentin.


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:35 PM Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.



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Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

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Well I always recommend turning Fastboot off anyway, it tends to corrupt what’s in memory.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: 27 November 2021 18:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

 

Hello everyone,

 

Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.

 

Kind Regarts,

Artin Dekker


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:06 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

I've noticed this strange behavior after the update of Windows 10 to version 1803. The behavior is the following. When the machine starts and Windows 10 loads, it gets to the lock screen as it should. Initially it all looks normal, but only for a while. Moments after that, the lock screen displays not only the time and date as it normally does, but user-specific information as well (e.g. weather forecast, upcoming alarms, etc.). Not only that, but the NVDA startup sound is heard, as if the desktop copy of NVDA is loaded, even though it should load only when the specific user signs in. I can't tell for sure if the desktop copy of NVDA loads, because my NVDA settings for the desktop and secure screen copies of it are the same. On top of that, the "Ease of access" menu appears and NVDA starts reading its menu items one by one. This happens when I power up the machine with "Fast Boot" enabled. I haven't tried with "Fast Boot" disabled, but when I restart the machine, the behavior described above does not occur. So, it must be related to "Fast Boot" somehow. And this did not occur before the update to version 1803 of Windows 10.

Has anyone else experienced the behavior described above? Have you found any solutions besides turning off "Fast Boot"? Turning off "Fast Boot" is also a solution, but I'd prefer to keep it on if possible.

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