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Reading be accessible name of an interactive components in screen readers
Eilana Benish
Hello everybody I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button. Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not. I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name. Hello everybody I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button. Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not. I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name. Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and ideas
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer
Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
God bless you, Tony. I'll give it a try.
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----- Original Message ----- From: Mani Iyer via groups.io To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 15:52 Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer Hello Tony, This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it. Thank you so much. Warmly, Mani On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Tony Ballou wrote: Hi, As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next. Tony Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer Keyboard shortcut Command Control-a Select All Control-b Bold text Control-c Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard Control-x Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard Control-v Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location. When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only Control-Shift-v Paste Special pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard control-alt-shift-V Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard control-E Centers text Control f Find text Control -g Go To control-H Find and replace Text Control-I Italicize text Control-J Justify Text Control-l Left align text Control-r Right align text Control-n Creates a new blank Document Control-o Brings up the open file dialog box Control-P Brings up the Print Dialog box Control-S Saves the current open Document. If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device. Control u Underlines text Control-y redoes your last action control-z undoes your last action Control-Shift-P inserts superscript Control-shift-b Inserts subscript Control-Enter Page break Navigation Keyboard shortcuts left arrow moves one character to the left shift-left arrow highlights the character to the left Right arrow moves one character to the right Shift-right arrow Highlights the character to the right up arrow moves up one line Shift-up arrow Highlights text in an upward direction Down arrow Moves down one line Shift-down arrow Highlights text in a downward direction Control -left arrow moves one word to the left control-right arrow moves one word to the right Control-shift-left arrow Highlights the word to the left Control-Shift-right arrow Highlights the word to the right Control-up arrow moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph Control-shift-up arrow highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph Control-Down arrow Moves to the end of the paragraph Control-Shift-down arrow Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph Home Moves to the beginning of the line shift-home Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line End Moves to the end of the line Shift-end Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line Control-home moves the cursor to the beginning of the document Control-End Moves the cursor to the end of the document Control-shift-home Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document Control-shift-end highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document Page up moves the cursor up one screen (this is approximately 24 lines) Page down Moves the cursor down one screen (This is approximately 24 lines) Shift-page up Highlights the text up by one screen Shift-page down Highlights the text down by one screen Control-Backspace Ce Deletes the text to the beginning of the word Control-delete Deletes the text to the end of the word Control-shift-backspace deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence Control-shift Delete Deletes the text to the end of a sentence On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote: Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? Hi, Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application. Like Open Office, It uses the graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it. I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. Tony Tony On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote: Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well. If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software? Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it? Are all the Microsoft functions and features available? Thanks in advance. Sincerely. _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#90386) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic NVDA Topics on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics | NVDA Archive Search Page on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search NVDA is developed by NV Access in collaboration with the community. Get NVDA from: https://www.nvaccess.org/ Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at: https://www.nvaccess.org/donate Get NVDA add-ons at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/ Other links: NVDA on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515 Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [vgr.09.15@...] _._,_._,_
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Re: LibreOffice?
Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
Thanks a million.
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Blessings.
----- Original Message ----- From: hurrikennyandopo ... To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 14:05 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? Hi The following web page has a tutorial on how to use the program as well with nvda. This is for the program you are looking at. Jump down to the heading I think it is called tutorials for talking computers, there is a link below it that takes you to where they are.. The link to nvda tutorials for other programs is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html There may also be other tutorials on this page of interest as well. Gene nz On 4/12/2021 8:57 am, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote: Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? Hi, Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application. Like Open Office, It uses the graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it. I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. Tony Tony On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodrýguez wrote: Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well. If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software? Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it? Are all the Microsoft functions and features available? Thanks in advance. Sincerely. _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#90382) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic NVDA Topics on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics | NVDA Archive Search Page on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search NVDA is developed by NV Access in collaboration with the community. Get NVDA from: https://www.nvaccess.org/ Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at: https://www.nvaccess.org/donate Get NVDA add-ons at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/ Other links: NVDA on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515 Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [vgr.09.15@...] _._,_._,_
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer
Tony Ballou
Hi Monte,
Not a problem brother.
Tony
On 12/3/2021 4:52 PM, Mani Iyer via
groups.io wrote:
Hello Tony,
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer
Mani Iyer
Hello Tony,
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This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it. Thank you so much. Warmly, Mani
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keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Calc
Tony Ballou
Hi,
Here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Calc. Tony Libre office calc keyboard shortcuts section 1 Menu shortcuts file menu shortcut keys alt-f opens the file menu once opened, the first option is the new sub-menu. Pressing the right arrow key gives you access to the following options. Note, when possible, using first letter navigation here will perform the desired task as well. Pressing t will open a new text document Pressing s will open a new spreadsheet Pressing p will open a new presentation Pressing d will open a new drawing pressing b will open a new database Pressing H will open a new HTML document Pressing x will open a new XML form Pressing a will open a new Master Document Pressing o will open a new Formula Pressing L will open the new labels option Pressing U will open the new business cards option Pressing m will open the Templates option The next menu item is the open command which is accessed by hitting alt-f, o or the more commonly used ctrl-o once the program is onscreene The next command in this menu is the remote files option which is accessed by pressing f The next option in the file menu is the recent documents sub-menu which is accessed by pressing u pressing the right arrow will open a list of the most recent documents you were working with. At the end of the list a clear all option appears. Hitting the letter c will clear the entire list. The next item is the close option which is accessed by pressing c Following the close choice is the wizard sub-menu which is accessed by hitting the letter w. The following choice are available: Letter, fax, agenda, Presentation, web page, document converter, euro converter, and data source. Using first letter navigation will open each of these items. The next item is the templates sub-menu. The options that are available are save as template which is accessed by hitting shift-f11, and manage templates which is accessed by hitting ctrl-shift-n
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Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer
Tony Ballou
Hi,
As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.
Tony
Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer
On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g.
Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.
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Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
If that was the case I wish they would of mentioned it and left some thing saying about it been moved to a later date rather than get to the day and you have no idea.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2021 6:37 am, Jujube wrote:
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Re: LibreOffice?
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
The following web page has a tutorial on how to use the program as well with nvda. This is for the program you are looking at.
Jump down to the heading I think it is called tutorials for talking computers, there is a link below it that takes you to where they are..
The link to nvda tutorials for other programs is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html There may also be other tutorials on this page of interest as well.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2021 8:57 am, Viris g.
Rodríguez wrote:
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.
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Re: LibreOffice?
Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.
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----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Ballou To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? Hi, Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application. Like Open Office, It uses the graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it. I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. Tony Tony On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote: Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well. If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software? Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it? Are all the Microsoft functions and features available? Thanks in advance. Sincerely. _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#90376) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic NVDA Topics on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics | NVDA Archive Search Page on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search NVDA is developed by NV Access in collaboration with the community. Get NVDA from: https://www.nvaccess.org/ Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at: https://www.nvaccess.org/donate Get NVDA add-ons at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/ Other links: NVDA on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515 Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [vgr.09.15@...] _._,_._,_
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Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Yes it has. Reach out to Derrek Reemer if you want the details.
Its a damn shame they couldn't get their poop together to get this
thing off the ground.
On 12/3/2021 12:36 PM, Khalid Anwar
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Re: Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con
Jujube
It's probably been moved to some time in early 2022. I think they were in a bit too much of a hurry to organize it in time hence the delay.?
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:36 AM Khalid Anwar <anwarkhalid850@...> wrote:
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Does anyone know what’s going on with NVDA con
Khalid Anwar
I thought it was going to be this weekend, but I looked on the website for the zoom link and it’s not there.
Has it been cancelled this year?
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Re: NVDA Portable Start
Steve Nutt
Hi,
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You need a space between the CD and the backslash like this Cd c:\ etc. All the best Steve -- To subscribe to our News and Special Offers list, go to https://www.comproom.co.uk/subscribe Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@... W: https://www.comproom.co.uk
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: 28 November 2021 01:43 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Portable Start Here's the batch file; only three lines: @echo off cd\nvda211 NVDA.exe This is my second try. First try did not have the cd command but just said: @echo off nvda211\NVDA.exe Of course, that batch file is in the root of the thumb drive. When I start NVDA using the Batch file, the (assumed) title bar says: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe The rest of the screen appears to be blank. Howard On 11/27/2021 7:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: How is NVDA invoked in that batch file? And by that I mean please
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Re: LibreOffice?
Tony Ballou
Hi,
Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an
antivirus application. Like Open Office, It uses the graphic
user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of
microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon
interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office
Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have
any problems with it. I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each
of these applications when I return from the road later today.
Tony Tony
On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g.
Rodríguez wrote:
Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
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Re: eBook Readers with NVDA
On that note I wander if easy converter express can convert epub to other formats. I have this and office so I can convert everything to doc but really its a 2 step thing doc then text, hmph.
On 4/12/2021 12:59 am, Ikrami wrote:
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Re: eBook Readers with NVDA
Not yet but my plan is to try to maybe review some of these later on. Of course weather I will do this before christmas is another thing. What may happen is that on christmas day or one of those dead days I will probably do a podcast. Christmas day is at my place and only in the evening. So chances are since it is christmas I will not be going to the gym as I usually do on a saturday. Being its my own personal gym but even so. Anyway who knows. I'll note it down. What I really want is a good ebook converter, ie epub, to htm, text, etc mobi, etc. Pdf I have plenty of converters but even so I'd like one. Calibre is a good software package to use but the codex frontend just makes it a lot better. Its just a pitty no one works on it. What needs to happen is someone other than me can find the old site james had with the latest compiled version, I'd do it but forget where on wayback I should look and somehow preserve it so at least we can still use that version. I like codex for its ease of use to convert the books to something else I can read, like text or something.
On 4/12/2021 12:59 am, Ikrami wrote:
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eBook Readers with NVDA
David Russell
Hello All,
I will probably choose between the iPhone, Bookworm, and Scribbed after reading through the responses you graciously provided. I'm not as tech savvy as some, so simple is desired. I tend to steer clear of Amazon for personal reasons as an author and reader. Thus I am not going to choose Kindle. I found GooglePlay usable with NVDA and eBooks, but only my Google Smart Speaker if the book is audio. The anthology I am interested in is published to Amazon, SmashWords, Apple, Kobo, and Barnes and Noble. The plan is to add more venues later. Authors on SmashWords again, seem to be choosing between EPUB, Moby and perhaps a third as format choice. Finding PDF, HTML, or plain text is becoming rare. Thanks again and happy holidays to all! David -- David C. Russell, Author david.sonofhashem@... Life is made up of sobs, sniffles, and smiles, with sniffles predominating. (O. Henry)
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Re: LibreOffice?
Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
Never mind, Quentin. I'll give it a try.
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God bless you.
----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Christensen To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Thursday, December 02, 2021 23:53 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? No, you didn't anger me at all! I'm sorry if my response came across that way, I think something might have been lost in translation along the way. Your questions are perfectly good questions and definitely acceptable here. I admit I didn't go back and check our previous conversation before replying, but by simply answering the questions with as much detail as possible, I figured it might help anyone else who comes along and finds the question in the group. Do please feel encouraged to download LibreOffice and give it a go: https://www.libreoffice.org/ And let us know how you find it and anything you get stuck with. Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:44 PM Viris g. Rodríguez wrote: Okay, Sir. I get the impression that this message angered you but I don't understand why. As I said, I don't remember exactly what we talked, though I am aware that we had a conversation about this topic. Of course I'm referring to the legal version of Eloquence TTS. However, I don't have a Microsoft Office subscription yet. I'm learning to use NVDA little by little. Please do not forget that I'm completely new to this. For this reason, I thought every single question made sense. I sincerely apologize to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Christensen To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Thursday, December 02, 2021 23:05 Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice? LibreOffice is a free alternative to Microsoft Office. So the first couple of questions actually don't apply: - The Antivirus you use would be the same across the computer. Any anti-virus which works on your PC should be just fine with LibreOffice - By Eloquence I hope you are referring to the legal version. In any case, the synthesizer simply reads whatever text NVDA passes to it. So if something won't read in LibreOffice, it is likely because that feature is not accessible, and it won't matter what synthesizer you use. The last one (paraphrased): - Are all the functions and features from Microsoft Office available in LibreOffice Is the key question. The majority of features of Microsoft Office are available in LibreOffice. There likely are some which aren't, but most will be. The key considering however, is that not all of the features are as accessible as the equivalent features in Microsoft Office are. Again, many are, but some may not be. If you currently have a Microsoft Office subscription, I would recommend trying LibreOffice and deciding whether it works for what you need before your Microsoft subscription runs out, so you can make an informed decision as to whether to continue it or not. Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:35 PM Viris g. Rodríguez wrote: Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well. If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software? Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it? Are all the Microsoft functions and features available? Thanks in advance. Sincerely. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www..nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www..nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#90366) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic NVDA Topics on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics | NVDA Archive Search Page on Groups.io - https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search NVDA is developed by NV Access in collaboration with the community. Get NVDA from: https://www.nvaccess.org/ Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong.. Donate at: https://www.nvaccess.org/donate Get NVDA add-ons at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/ Other links: NVDA on Facebook: https://www..facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515 Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [vgr.09.15@...] _._,_._,_
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Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Steve Nutt
Well I always recommend turning Fastboot off anyway, it tends to corrupt what’s in memory.
All the best
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: 27 November 2021 18:52 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Hello everyone,
Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.
Kind Regarts, Artin Dekker
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