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Re: NVDA chat Key echo

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I use letter, but have in the past tried word echo, but my brain has a problem processing it that way.
Brian

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From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 2:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA chat Key echo


Hi,
How many people use key echo when typing in word? I was cruious how
many used key echo, word echo, and no echo.
Thanks
Chris


Re: How to fill fillable PDF forms with NVDA

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The key word is 'should' and many are what we might call a dogs dinner over here in the UK!

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Subject: Re: [nvda] How to fill fillable PDF forms with NVDA


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 09:16 AM, Chris Smart wrote:


Have you tried Adobe Acrobat DC?
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Adobe Reader DC definitely supports the filling out of fillable PDF forms, and the saving of ones that permit you to save them once they're filled out. Yes, there are fillable forms that do not allow you to save them and the process there is to fill them out then print the filled-out result. They're less rare than you'd think.

Every fillable form I've ever dealt with, be it PDF or MS-Word, just involves traversing the form fields (including checkboxes, radio buttons, etc.) using TAB to move from item to item and doing whatever is appropriate for the particular item to fill it out. A properly designed fillable form should announce the name/purpose of the item when you land in it and, if necessary, have associated help text if the name/purpose is not descriptive enough on its own.
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Re: Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP

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There was an interesting demo of NVDA and the beta of Remote Incident Manager on last weeks Mosen at Large podcast. Sounded like the answer to many prayers, except the pricing when it comes out after the beta version. Just my view.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with Windows 11 IOT & RDP


Greetings,

I wanted to see if anyone has used NVDA with Windows 11 IOT from another
computer using Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and if there are any
tips/tricks that you can share.

I don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports this without any additional
software installation/configuration.

I also don't know if Windows 11 IOT supports Narator with the initial
installation.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Russ





Locked Re: No Beeps in Explorer Any More?

 

Hi,

See if "more details" is checked when looking at copy dialog.

Cheers,

Joseph


Locked Re: No Beeps in Explorer Any More?

Quentin Christensen
 

Actually one other thought occurs to me - when you say "a lot of small files", do you mean one at a time?  If they finish copying within say a second, Windows won't display a progress bar and NVDA won't beep, it's just done.


On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:43 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It sounds as though the progress bar is not being shown when working in File Explorer.  I don't know why.  Perhaps there is a setting about showing the progress bar or where it is shown.

Gene

On 8/3/2022 7:33 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
I had the occasion to copy a folder with a lot of small files and discovered that the beeps for progress bar indication are gone. Running everything latest--Windows 10 21H2 build 1826, NVDA 2022.2. Beeps work everywhere else, just not in File Explorer. I distinctly remember this used to work. Thoughts?









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Locked Re: No Beeps in Explorer Any More?

Gene
 

It sounds as though the progress bar is not being shown when working in File Explorer.  I don't know why.  Perhaps there is a setting about showing the progress bar or where it is shown.

Gene

On 8/3/2022 7:33 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

I had the occasion to copy a folder with a lot of small files and discovered that the beeps for progress bar indication are gone. Running everything latest--Windows 10 21H2 build 1826, NVDA 2022.2. Beeps work everywhere else, just not in File Explorer. I distinctly remember this used to work. Thoughts?








Locked Re: No Beeps in Explorer Any More?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Steve,

How large is your folder?  The beeps occur every percentage or so - I just copied a small folder (which took about ten seconds) and got the increasing beeps.  When I went to copy a large folder, I got one beep every minute as it very slowly worked.

I'm using NVDA 2022.3beta1 on Windows 11 (64-bit) Version: 21H2 (2009), Build: 22000.795   but I don't believe we've changed anything recently.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:33 AM Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
I had the occasion to copy a folder with a lot of small files and
discovered that the beeps for progress bar indication are gone. Running
everything latest--Windows 10 21H2 build 1826, NVDA 2022.2. Beeps work
everywhere else, just not in File Explorer. I distinctly remember this
used to work. Thoughts?








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Locked No Beeps in Explorer Any More?

Steve Matzura
 

I had the occasion to copy a folder with a lot of small files and discovered that the beeps for progress bar indication are gone. Running everything latest--Windows 10 21H2 build 1826, NVDA 2022.2. Beeps work everywhere else, just not in File Explorer. I distinctly remember this used to work. Thoughts?


Re: password managers

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 07:38 PM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
I use Keepass. I like it, because it works on Windows and IOS. Not sure about Android and  other systems.
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There are Android ports of KeePass, and they're listed on the bottom of the main KeePass page along with the iOS ports.

I use Password Safe and it's Android port that goes by the name PasswdSafe.  There is an iOS port as well as a Mac port, too.
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Re: password managers

Mária Orovčíková
 

Hello,
I use Keepass. I like it, because it works on Windows and IOS. Not sure about Android and  other systems.
Maria

Dňa 3. 8. 2022 o 23:17 Don H napísal(a):

Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.  Looking for a accessible password manager.  Are there any good free ones?
Thanks




Re: make a donation

Quentin Christensen
 

If you use the donation options on our donation page - https://www.nvaccess.org/support-us/#donation-support - (as in, NOT the bank details), then as soon as you select any of those options, it takes you to PayPal.  Any errors from that point onward are likely with PayPal.  As others have said, if you can give more information about the exact error, we can still try to help troubleshoot with you.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:32 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Not to mention that the method of donation is not mentioned.  On the NVAccess Support Us page that would be either PayPal or bank transfer.

Others recently asked about using the PayPal app from their phones, and you absolutely can donate that way, too.  The PayPal address for NVAccess/NVDA is admin@... if donating via the PayPal app from a smartphone.
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Re: Question on switching language

Rui Fontes
 

By now, the only method almost 100% sure is based in the character set used...

But, even this method have serious problems...

How to differenciate between portuguese and english if both use the same character set?

And the same for japanese and chinese, russian and polish and so on?

Linguistic analysis can be usefull, but it is needed, at least, 4 or 5 words to determine, with some degree of confidence, which language is used...

Remember that in almost two languages of the same character set is easy to find equal words, not always with the same meaning, but wroten exactly the same way...

One example in english and portuguese is the word "use"...


I have already tried to set a system to determine the language used, but it is impossible without, at least, 4 or 5 words...



Rui Fontes


Às 23:18 de 03/08/2022, Gene escreveu:

Those settings only do anything if the page uses HTML like an internet page and if the language attribute changes when the language changes.  the changes have to be made by whoever is designing the page.

I don't know if any screen-readers or synthesizers use AI to try to detect and change language based on what is written on the screen.

Gene

On 8/3/2022 5:00 PM, Jackie wrote:
Chrissie, this is under Preferences > settings > speech. Ensure the
following options are checked.
automatic language switching
automatic dialect switching
Trust voice's language when processing characters and symbols

On 8/3/22, Chrissie <chrissie@...> wrote:
Hi Folks.

Is there any way, assuming you have the correct language voice available,
for NVDA to automatically switch languages if it finds another language on
a
page of text?

Chrissie









Re: Question on switching language

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 06:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Those settings only do anything if the page uses HTML like an internet page and if the language attribute changes when the language changes.  the changes have to be made by whoever is designing the page.
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Not quite.  As I reported just the other day when a question came up about the availability of Japanese OneCore Voices, I had NVDA switch from English to Japanese in MS-Word where all I had done was type the first sentence in English and then pasted in the second someone else had written in Japanese.

I don't know what it was that triggered the automatic language change, possibly the recognition of the character set change, but I did not use any language attributes when constructing the document.

If someone wants to ensure language switching then they should make certain to set the language attribute appropriately, though.  Leaving it up to chance is not the way to go.
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Re: Question on switching language

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Thanks very much indeed.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on switching language

Chrissie, this is under Preferences > settings > speech. Ensure the
following options are checked.
automatic language switching
automatic dialect switching
Trust voice's language when processing characters and symbols

On 8/3/22, Chrissie <chrissie@...> wrote:
Hi Folks.

Is there any way, assuming you have the correct language voice
available, for NVDA to automatically switch languages if it finds
another language on a page of text?

Chrissie







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Re: Question on switching language

Gene
 

Those settings only do anything if the page uses HTML like an internet page and if the language attribute changes when the language changes.  the changes have to be made by whoever is designing the page.

I don't know if any screen-readers or synthesizers use AI to try to detect and change language based on what is written on the screen.

Gene

On 8/3/2022 5:00 PM, Jackie wrote:

Chrissie, this is under Preferences > settings > speech. Ensure the
following options are checked.
automatic language switching
automatic dialect switching
Trust voice's language when processing characters and symbols

On 8/3/22, Chrissie <chrissie@...> wrote:
Hi Folks.

Is there any way, assuming you have the correct language voice available,
for NVDA to automatically switch languages if it finds another language on
a
page of text?

Chrissie










Re: password managers

Nimer Jaber
 

Bitwarden isn't too bad, either.


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 2:17 PM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.  Looking for a accessible
password manager.  Are there any good free ones?
Thanks







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Re: NVDA chat Key echo

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I use "Speak typed characters" in all of my NVDA profiles for the same reasons already discussed in this thread.  I also have my symbol level set to "Most".

Louise


Re: Question on switching language

 

Yes.

NVDA + N, P, S [NVDA Main Menu, Preferences, Settings]
In the Speech options (which are the ones which should open first by default) make sure the checkbox for Automatic Language Switching (where supported) is checked.

Note the "(where supported)" proviso.  Depending on what's being read and in what program it may or may not be supported.
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Re: Question on switching language

Jackie
 

Chrissie, this is under Preferences > settings > speech. Ensure the
following options are checked.
automatic language switching
automatic dialect switching
Trust voice's language when processing characters and symbols

On 8/3/22, Chrissie <chrissie@...> wrote:
Hi Folks.

Is there any way, assuming you have the correct language voice available,
for NVDA to automatically switch languages if it finds another language on
a
page of text?

Chrissie






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Question on switching language

Chrissie
 

Hi Folks.

Is there any way, assuming you have the correct language voice available,
for NVDA to automatically switch languages if it finds another language on a
page of text?

Chrissie