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Re: visited links

Brian Vogel

#96307

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 02:33 PM, Gene wrote:

In what screen-reader?

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Original query, verbatim: How do I stop nvda from saying, “visited link”
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Re: visited links

Gene

#96306

In what screen-reader?

Gene

On 6/2/2022 1:23 PM, Monte Single wrote:

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Hi List,

I have some web pages that I visit weekly, like grocery flyers.

How do I stop nvda from saying, “visited link”

OK, tell me the answer, then you can stone me.

Cheers,

Mont

Re: visited links

Brian Vogel

#96305

What are you proposing NVDA announce?

Generally you get "link" for a link that you've never visited and "visited link" for something you've actually "clicked through" to visit before.

In NVDA and other screen readers there are generally navigation shortcuts that allow you to go straight to links you've visited before versus unvisited links along with a visitation agnostic shortcut.
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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

visited links

Monte Single

#96304

Hi List,

I have some web pages that I visit weekly, like grocery flyers.

How do I stop nvda from saying, “visited link”

OK, tell me the answer, then you can stone me.

Cheers,

Mont

Re: NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler

#96303

Very sorry.  I don't know how I done that; making the subject Q. I'm usually more aware

Howard

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On 6/2/2022 10:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Glad you got it working, but please edit your subject or keep the current one going next  time.  It make sthose of us who monitor the list via email and via the forum a lot happier.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Q

Thank you all.  Yes, I think I did it right.  I used the MediaCreationTool and got Windows updated.  Now I installed NVDA 22.1 and got the synthesizer I wanted.  Now, I think the rest is straight forrward.  We'll find out tomorrow.

Thanks to this great list and you folks, I may get this thing working.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:34 PM, Gene wrote:
Yes.  I'm talking about doing that and typing in the windows start
search menu, which is where you will be

I'm suggesting you do what I suggest first.  You don't know if the
computer isn't downloading updates.  If you check, you will know. I'm
not saying you shouldn't do other things if there is a problem but you
don't know yet.

You are showing the old version of Windows because the computer hasn't
finished updating itself.  That doesn't mean there is anything wrong.
You said the computer hasn't been used for a number of years.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:28 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens
when I press the windows key and get a search box?  I think that's
what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm
using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.
When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the
computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something
wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be
installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the
information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us
know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which
she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your
instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get
it done.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then
Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very
long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based
on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2,
which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update
Using the Windows ISO file/*
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSv
JNm9_08hj1tALPK> or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download
Page
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784
474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,
and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of
Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go.
Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand
another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily
sharing or accepting them./*

         ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: NVDA failed to install

Brian Vogel

#96302

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 11:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

but please edit your subject or keep the current one going next time. It make sthose of us who monitor the list via email and via the forum a lot happier.

-
Sarah,

Thank you for your support of a decades old mailing list convention - keeping all material related to a given topic under the same subject it was introduced with. It makes life so much easier for people who wish to follow specific topics and for a much "cleaner" archive for those who search it.

I have already merged the "Q" topic back into this one. Given the cryptic nature of that subject line, I have to believe it was an entirely accidental change, and those do happen every once in a while. But everything, including the two posts that occurred under subject "Q" are now back as part of this, the original topic.
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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Sarah k Alawami

#96301

Those are neural voices, and that api is expensive as that processing is taking place online.

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Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

I do like some of the voices in Edge, but is there a way to duplicate those? 
They seem better than the Microsoft native ones to me.
 Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is 
open source.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice 
the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.

Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Sarah k Alawami

#96300

Sometimes I do use espeak if I need something like that, It will get my attention and it is loud, at times. I do need that for some of the things I do.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.

mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too
And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

Skickades från E-post för Windows

Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the
only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.

Re: NVDA failed to install

Sarah k Alawami

#96299

Glad you got it working, but please edit your subject or keep the current one going next  time.  It make sthose of us who monitor the list via email and via the forum a lot happier.

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Q

Thank you all.  Yes, I think I did it right.  I used the MediaCreationTool and got Windows updated.  Now I installed NVDA 22.1 and got the synthesizer I wanted.  Now, I think the rest is straight forrward.  We'll find out tomorrow.

Thanks to this great list and you folks, I may get this thing working.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:34 PM, Gene wrote:
Yes.  I'm talking about doing that and typing in the windows start 
search menu, which is where you will be

I'm suggesting you do what I suggest first.  You don't know if the 
computer isn't downloading updates.  If you check, you will know. I'm 
not saying you shouldn't do other things if there is a problem but you 
don't know yet.

You are showing the old version of Windows because the computer hasn't 
finished updating itself.  That doesn't mean there is anything wrong.
You said the computer hasn't been used for a number of years.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:28 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens 
when I press the windows key and get a search box?  I think that's 
what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm 
using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.
When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the 
computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something 
wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be 
installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the 
information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us 
know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which 
she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your 
instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get 
it done.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then 
Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very 
long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based 
on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, 
which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update 
Using the Windows ISO file/* 
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSv
JNm9_08hj1tALPK> or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download 
Page 
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784
474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,
and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of 
Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go.
Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand 
another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily 
sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Ravindran V.S.

#96298

Is there a windows desktop version on the Google TTS to be used with screen readers?

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of coscell@...
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 11:59 AM
To: 高生旺 <coscell@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

https://venturebeat.com/2019/08/16/google-open-sources-live-transcribes-speech-engine/

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, 高生旺 wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:06:32 +0800 (CST)
From: 高生旺 <coscell@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Open your Android phone to see.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, Akash Kakkar wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 11:19:01 +0530
From: Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

What? open source? Who said it?

On 6/2/2022 11:12 AM, coscell@... wrote:
How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is 
open source.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

Skickades från E-post för Windows

Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH 
voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.

Automatic language switching feature in Tony's enhancements add-on isn't working

Denis Kolesov

#96297

Hello! I use microsoft onecore synthesizer. I want to use automatic language switching feature in Tony's enhancements addon to switch between english and russian. But I can't make it work. The appropriate checkbox is checked. What else should i do? I also want Zira voice for english language and Irina voice for russian language. But I can't figure out how to set it up.

NVDA version 2022.1.

Tony's enhancements version 1.14.

Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Rui Fontes

#96296

Hello!


Here is a relevant part of the log from Luciano:


As we can see, between pressing Enter, after writing NVDA in cell A1, the last mention to the error is 6 seconds later...



IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.573) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['idp.xlsx - Excel', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (14:12:09.751) - MainThread (15184):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:12:09.777) - MainThread (15184):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor object at 0x06F7D810>
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.781) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['Informações', 'tabela', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.836) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['A1', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:12.016) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:12.061) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 1, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:12.218) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['A1', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:14.256) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+n
DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:12:14.357) - MainThread (15184):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0703AA50> with extra args of {'ch': 'N'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 284, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 107, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1437, in event_typedCharacter
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 146, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1420, in _get_states
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 146, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1227, in _get_excelCellInfo
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 60, in __call__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 32, in __call__
_ctypes.COMError: (-2147418111, 'A chamada foi rejeitada pelo chamado.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive (14:12:14.386) - MainThread (15184):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 470, in _get_isAlive
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 87, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 32, in __call__
_ctypes.COMError: (-2147418111, 'A chamada foi rejeitada pelo chamado.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:12:14.387) - MainThread (15184):
Killed treeInterceptor: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor object at 0x06F7D810>
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:14.416) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['Barra de Fórmulas', 'edição', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'N']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:14.736) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+v
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:15.088) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+d
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:15.312) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+a
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:16.039) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 50, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 51, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 52, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.248) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_VALUECHANGE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 53, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.625) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_VALUECHANGE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 57, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.626) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONREMOVE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 58, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.627) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 59, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664


Às 11:32 de 02/06/2022, Luciano de Souza escreveu:

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I hadn't done it, but now I did.
No results. The problem is still the same.
Having run NVDA in debug mode, I got the log I send attached.
My boss wants the sheet ready, but he'll have to be patient.
With automatic calculation disabled, I can use Excel, but in a very bad way.


Em 02/06/2022 00:36, Luke Davis escreveu:
Have you tried changing the UIA setting for Excel, in NVDA Advanced settings?

Luke

Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Luciano de Souza

#96295

The spreadsheet has many data writen. It's not very simple. Dispite that, there are only a few calculations. I imagine they are not enough to cause such dramatic problem.
I have closed Excel and reopened it. In a new file, I have writen my name and pressed "enter". In fact, NVDA replies very well. For this reason, perhaps you have reason about the volume of data.
Yes, there are only few calculations, but the spreadsheet uses validation very much.
There are no less than a thousand cells with list validations. Dispite having few calculations, perhaps validations, used in a large ammount, harmes the spreadsheet performance.
If NVDA doesn't lead well with validations, I have a big problem since this is the spreadsheet of my real world.

Em 02/06/2022 00:19, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

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Hi Luciano,

From what you describe, it sounds like the issue is occuring when the spreadsheet tries to update itself. I have a large spreadsheet which does that and basically it does freeze Excel while it is calculating, so you can't do anything - and that happens even if NVDA is not running. I appreciate you said your spreadsheet was not so large, so I'm not sure, although it does sound basically the same.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:13 AM Luciano de Souza <lucsouza1975@...> wrote:

Hello all,

When editing cells in Microsoft Excel, I’m facing a very serious slowness.

I type the content, I press “enter” and NVDA freezes.

Ten seconds later, the voice returns to normality.

It’s not a particular heavy worksheet, so the performance should be good.

Restarting NVDA in debug mode, I found a message saying that the gainFocus event failed.

The problems occurs in two machines:

· The first one with Windows 10, Office 2019 e NVDA 2022-1;

· The second one with Windows 10, Office 365 e NVDA 2022-1.

In both machine, I have tested also with NVDA 2020-3 with the same bad results.

I also ran the register fixer tool offered by NVDA.

The installed version, there’s no addons or customization in its settings.

Both machines have good performance when executing other tasks.

In Excel, I turned off the automatic calculation to attenuate the problem.

In fact, disabled the automatic calculation, the performance becomes adequate.

However, pressing F9 to calculate, the screen reader freezes again.

As mentioned, the file doesn’t have heavy formulas or a large amount of data.

I could not understand what is succeeding, so I ask you for a help.

I wish this message find everyone good and I thank for staying here.

Best regards,

Luciano de Souza

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Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Luciano de Souza

#96294

I hadn't done it, but now I did.
No results. The problem is still the same.
Having run NVDA in debug mode, I got the log I send attached.
My boss wants the sheet ready, but he'll have to be patient.
With automatic calculation disabled, I can use Excel, but in a very bad way.


Em 02/06/2022 00:36, Luke Davis escreveu:

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Have you tried changing the UIA setting for Excel, in NVDA Advanced settings?

Luke

Re: NVDA failed to install

Jason Bratcher

#96293

I remember signing in being a secure screen, so definite yes here.
Jason Bratcher

Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Joshua Hendrickson

#96292

Hi guys.  I don't think E-speak is all that bad.  You can play with it
nowadays and some of the different voices aren't all that bad.  It
does take some getting used to.  If you want to be a bit weird, play
around with the pitch and inflection.  Espeak can sound really weird
then.  It does get annoying after the first few minutes, but it is a
bit fun.

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<bglists@...> wrote:
I use Espeak Quincy for menus and other navigational things, but more
natural sounding ones for reading long documents.
 One thing that might be a nice add on would be the ability to save the
speach to a sound file like several stand alone programs are supposed to do,

but often are not very accessible.
 Brian

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ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.


mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.











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Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

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I use Espeak Quincy for menus and other navigational things, but more natural sounding ones for reading long documents.
One thing that might be a nice add on would be the ability to save the speach to a sound file like several stand alone programs are supposed to do, but often are not very accessible.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William" <xsuper.sillyx@...>
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 7:01 AM
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ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.


mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.

Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

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I do like some of the voices in Edge, but is there a way to duplicate those? They seem better than the Microsoft native ones to me.
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is open
source.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.

Re: Old versions of add-ons

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I think Svox Pico has been made to work now. Its actually the same voice used on many Samsung TVs.
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I admit it's been a while since I looked at the site, but last time I
did there was a short list of currently unsupported addons that work
with older versions on the NVDA website, but I can't remember where
that was and I think it was only voices. I remember seeing SVox Pico
there, which I used briefly several years ago.

On 6/1/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That's good. If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear. Its nice
to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory
<https://nvda-addons.org/>(hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA
Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer
compatible with the latest version of NVDA. When you search they tell
you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1,
that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

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Re: Old versions of add-ons

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Yes one case in point is that for reasons I'll not go into here,  I like to retain Goldwave 32 bit, but all the latest add ons are for the 64 bit, so I keep an older copy and install it on an older version of nvda portable for this reason. The one add on I'd like to see made 2022.1 ready is the sound schemes/3D sound one which I find aids me in knowing a bit more about physical screen layout, but the author has either moved his address, died or is not interested.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 8:09 PM
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That's good. If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear. Its nice
to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory
<https://nvda-addons.org/>(hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA
Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer
compatible with the latest version of NVDA. When you search they tell
you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1,
that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

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