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Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

 

thanks so much for your information gene.
i learned many new things from you and i realy appreciate it.
but only in firefox 50 deactivating autocomplete is necessary.
am i right?
i remember that all times i deactivate autocomplete, but i did not
observe this problem in firefox 49 and before.
is it a regression in firefox 50?
should we report it to mozilla developers?

On 1/10/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Its quite hard if you type a wrong letter. I personally fine this very
annoying, but each to their own of course.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "majno" <alfred.hl@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of

nvda with firefox 50!


And what's the problem with autocomplete? i use it without problem, for
my is a useful function.


El 10-Jan-17 a las 3:00 AM, Gene escribió:
This has nothing to do with NVDA nor the version of NVDA. If you
haven't stopped autocomplete, Firefox opens a list of suggestions as
you type and places you in the list. If you turn off autocomplete,
the list isn't automatically opened. You can open it, as you could in
older versions of firefox by downarrowing after you type something.
You can close the list with escape.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:43 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous
versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:
You made an error. It does work. The easiest way to find the item
is to
type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
down arrow and up arrow once. You will b on the correct item and it
will be
selected.
Press enter.
That's all you have to do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous
versions of
nvda with firefox 50!


Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions
of
nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of
nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda
announces all
characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left
and right
arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want
easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you
need to
install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos
enabled
for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its quite hard if you type a wrong letter. I personally fine this very annoying, but each to their own of course.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "majno" <alfred.hl@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!


And what's the problem with autocomplete? i use it without problem, for
my is a useful function.


El 10-Jan-17 a las 3:00 AM, Gene escribió:
This has nothing to do with NVDA nor the version of NVDA. If you
haven't stopped autocomplete, Firefox opens a list of suggestions as
you type and places you in the list. If you turn off autocomplete,
the list isn't automatically opened. You can open it, as you could in
older versions of firefox by downarrowing after you type something.
You can close the list with escape.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:43 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous
versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:
You made an error. It does work. The easiest way to find the item
is to
type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
down arrow and up arrow once. You will b on the correct item and it
will be
selected.
Press enter.
That's all you have to do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous
versions of
nvda with firefox 50!


Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda
announces all
characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left
and right
arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want
easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you
need to
install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos
enabled
for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Gene
 

I don't know what programs you use it in.  In new versions of Firefox, when you type an address or even one letter in the add ress bar, it changes from the address bar edit field into a combination list and edit field.  It is much better to be able to have the edit field remain an edit field.  It makes correcting mistakes much faster and easier.  And if you turn off autocomplete, you can still down arrow and open the list.  It doesn't open automatically but you can open it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: majno
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

And what's the problem with autocomplete? i use it without problem, for my is a useful function.   


El 10-Jan-17 a las 3:00 AM, Gene escribió:
This has nothing to do with NVDA nor the version of NVDA.  If you haven't stopped autocomplete, Firefox opens a list of suggestions as you type and places you in the list.  If you turn off autocomplete, the list isn't automatically opened.  You can open it, as you could in older versions of firefox by downarrowing after you type something.  You can close the list with escape.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You made an error.  It does work.  The easiest way to find the item is to
> type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
> down arrow and up arrow once.  You will b on the correct item and it will be
> selected.
> Press enter.
> That's all you have to do.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I just tried the solution and it didn't work.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
> khaksar
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
> hello every one.
> today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
> i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
> firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
> i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
> when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all
> characters except deleted one!
> and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right
> arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
> today, i found a solution for it!
> type in address bar
> about:config
> press enter and accept the warning about your work.
> in the search bar, type
> browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
> press enter on it to set it to false.
> because the default value is true.
> now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
> but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
> firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to
> install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled
> for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
> for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.
>
> • In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
> fields now function correctly.
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

majno
 

And what's the problem with autocomplete? i use it without problem, for my is a useful function.   


El 10-Jan-17 a las 3:00 AM, Gene escribió:
This has nothing to do with NVDA nor the version of NVDA.  If you haven't stopped autocomplete, Firefox opens a list of suggestions as you type and places you in the list.  If you turn off autocomplete, the list isn't automatically opened.  You can open it, as you could in older versions of firefox by downarrowing after you type something.  You can close the list with escape.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You made an error.  It does work.  The easiest way to find the item is to
> type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
> down arrow and up arrow once.  You will b on the correct item and it will be
> selected.
> Press enter.
> That's all you have to do.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I just tried the solution and it didn't work.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
> khaksar
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
> hello every one.
> today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
> i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
> firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
> i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
> when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all
> characters except deleted one!
> and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right
> arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
> today, i found a solution for it!
> type in address bar
> about:config
> press enter and accept the warning about your work.
> in the search bar, type
> browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
> press enter on it to set it to false.
> because the default value is true.
> now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
> but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
> firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to
> install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled
> for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
> for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.
>
> • In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
> fields now function correctly.
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Gene
 

This has nothing to do with NVDA nor the version of NVDA.  If you haven't stopped autocomplete, Firefox opens a list of suggestions as you type and places you in the list.  If you turn off autocomplete, the list isn't automatically opened.  You can open it, as you could in older versions of firefox by downarrowing after you type something.  You can close the list with escape.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You made an error.  It does work.  The easiest way to find the item is to
> type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
> down arrow and up arrow once.  You will b on the correct item and it will be
> selected.
> Press enter.
> That's all you have to do.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I just tried the solution and it didn't work.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
> khaksar
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
> nvda with firefox 50!
>
> hello every one.
> today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
> i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
> firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
> i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
> when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all
> characters except deleted one!
> and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right
> arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
> today, i found a solution for it!
> type in address bar
> about:config
> press enter and accept the warning about your work.
> in the search bar, type
> browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
> press enter on it to set it to false.
> because the default value is true.
> now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
> but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
> firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to
> install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled
> for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
> for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.
>
> • In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
> fields now function correctly.
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Toast notification in portable version of nvda?

 

hi quentin.
whats toast notification?
can i ask to explane it for me completely?
did you try it with nvda 2016.3?
thanks.

On 1/10/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Roger,

It seems to be behaving for me, in both 2016.4 and the latest next
snapshot. I wonder if it could be something to do with:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5688

What build of Windows are you running? Also have you tried NVDA with
addons disabled - you can choose that from the NVDA+Q dialog.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

I have found that Toast Notifications are never spoken when I run a
portable version of nvda with the latest version of nvda and the latest
stable version of win 10 apps add on. My installed copy of nvda on the
same machine reads them all just fine. Has anyone else found this
happening to them? Please report it if you find this.


Thanks.


Roger






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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

 

hello gene.
i did not know typing autoc.
interesting!
thanks so much.
and also without deactivating autocomplete, for me even with nvda
2016.4 the problem persist.
but i am not completely sure about the version of nvda which i tested.
does it work properly to type address without deactivating
autocomplete with nvda 2016.4?
thanks so much for testing.

On 1/9/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You made an error. It does work. The easiest way to find the item is to
type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
down arrow and up arrow once. You will b on the correct item and it will be
selected.
Press enter.
That's all you have to do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
nvda with firefox 50!


Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of
nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all
characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right
arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of
firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to
install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled
for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: NVDA say check box on desktop

 


I acomplished it. Thank you.
---------------
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The Assistive technology specialist
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say check box on desktop

In the start menu type “folder options”
In the file explorer options, uncheck the option something to the effect of “use checkboxes to select items.”

Bill
On Jan 10, 2017, at 2:42 AM, Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@...> wrote:

To all listers
How to prevent NVDA say check box when navigating on Windows 10 desktop?
Reinstalled Windows10 64 bit for my wife, and that problem occur.
Using the latest version of NVDA
Any help would be appreciated
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind 
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@... 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter 
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
 
Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@... 
Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
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Re: NVDA say check box on desktop

Bill Dengler
 

In the start menu type “folder options”
In the file explorer options, uncheck the option something to the effect of “use checkboxes to select items.”

Bill

On Jan 10, 2017, at 2:42 AM, Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@...> wrote:

To all listers
How to prevent NVDA say check box when navigating on Windows 10 desktop?
Reinstalled Windows10 64 bit for my wife, and that problem occur.
Using the latest version of NVDA
Any help would be appreciated
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind 
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@... 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter 
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
 
Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@... 
Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech


NVDA say check box on desktop

 

To all listers
How to prevent NVDA say check box when navigating on Windows 10 desktop?
Reinstalled Windows10 64 bit for my wife, and that problem occur.
Using the latest version of NVDA
Any help would be appreciated
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
 
Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech


Re: Changing NVDA's Voice

Quentin Christensen
 

Note that if the synthesizer itself has been changed you may need to select your chosen synth first with NVDA+control+s, and then you can go into the voice settings with NVDA+control+v to fine tune the voice.

Which synthesizer were you using (and which has it reverted to)? And also, what was the windows update?

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

In order to open the Voice settings menu, press:


NVDA plus Control plus V. Tab around so that you can find what you wish in order to set your voice preferences.


On 1/9/2017 11:01 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
What’s the key board command to change the voice in NVDA.  I made an update today in Windows 10 and it seems like the voice of NVDA has changed.  I could not find the command in the user’s guide from what I can understand of the existing voice.  In this case can someone help please?Your Friend Dave
 






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Re: Toast notification in portable version of nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Roger,

It seems to be behaving for me, in both 2016.4 and the latest next snapshot.  I wonder if it could be something to do with: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5688

What build of Windows are you running?  Also have you tried NVDA with addons disabled - you can choose that from the NVDA+Q dialog.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
I have found that Toast Notifications are never spoken when I run a portable version of nvda with the latest version of nvda and the latest stable version of win 10 apps add on.  My installed copy of nvda on the same machine reads them all just fine.  Has anyone else found this happening to them?  Please report it if you find this.


Thanks.


Roger








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Changing NVDA's Voice

Dejan Ristic
 

In order to open the Voice settings menu, press:


NVDA plus Control plus V. Tab around so that you can find what you wish in order to set your voice preferences.


On 1/9/2017 11:01 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
What’s the key board command to change the voice in NVDA.  I made an update today in Windows 10 and it seems like the voice of NVDA has changed.  I could not find the command in the user’s guide from what I can understand of the existing voice.  In this case can someone help please?Your Friend Dave
 




Changing NVDA's Voice

Dave Grossoehme
 

What’s the key board command to change the voice in NVDA.  I made an update today in Windows 10 and it seems like the voice of NVDA has changed.  I could not find the command in the user’s guide from what I can understand of the existing voice.  In this case can someone help please?Your Friend Dave
 


Toast notification in portable version of nvda?

Roger Stewart
 

I have found that Toast Notifications are never spoken when I run a portable version of nvda with the latest version of nvda and the latest stable version of win 10 apps add on. My installed copy of nvda on the same machine reads them all just fine. Has anyone else found this happening to them? Please report it if you find this.


Thanks.


Roger


Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Gene
 

You made an error.  It does work.  The easiest way to find the item is to type autoc and that's it, in the search field then tab once.
down arrow and up arrow once.  You will b on the correct item and it will be selected.
Press enter.
That's all you have to do.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org








Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

This is good to know. Thanks for the tip.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: GUI positioning

 

Hi,

Some depends on GUI toolkit in use (NVDA uses wxPython, the Python implementation of wxWidgets).

I prefer not to use absolute coordinates on screen (that’s what x and y are), preferring to let the GUI toolkit arrange things on screen once I tell it how it should do it. In my case, before writing GUI code, I do some preliminary design on paper (at least sitting down and thinking about spacing, overall layout and what not), and then I investigate best options or workarounds.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 6:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GUI positioning

 

Hi there,

How do these actually help in programming a GUI though? Won’t these tools merely inform you of where you have put the controls (In other words, if you programmed a control at X=1000, Y=1000, won’t they tell you that this control is at X=1000 Y=1000?)

How do you know whether these are valid positions, whether they will fit on all screens, whether they look well made, whether they are fairly spaced etc.

Having never had any sight the workings of screens and mice are completely alien to me. All I know is one is a display and one is a complicated kind of navigator. Lol.

I guess this is why, no matter how many times I read the documentation, I can’t get to grips with the different navigation methods of NVDA, or any other screen reader that I may have used in the past. I don’t even know how navigation works, I just know how to do it on a basic system level.

Cheers.
Damien.

 

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:23 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] GUI positioning

 

Hi,

Another handy method is using screen review and object location command (NVDA+Numpad Delete).

I have investigated the ability for NVDA to tell you object coordinates via beeps, but stalled due to the fact that a major refactor must be done in order to properly support this kind of work. The best option, apart from Golden Cursor, is Audio Themes 3D add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GUI positioning

 

Damien, while I primarily work in web dev, where I can either use inline layout, or, at times, use CSS to hard-code, or let elements hover, in the past I did also work with VS.Net versions, where you could sort of handle layout using arrow keys, etc., but, if working with GUI's at moment, I primary work with layout by code, using wx under python - named after Monty Python, FWIW - but, yes, I was sighted before, so I still visualise layout a lot.

 

However, for a simplistic rendition of pixel coordinates, I tell people to consider something like a chess board, for X and Y layout visualisation, and, under wxPython, you can also query layout coordinates, widths, etc., or, while it's been a little while, I used layout grids to make sure elements lined up next to each other, and didn't hover over each other, but anyway.

 

Also, if you install the golden cursor add-on for NVDA, you can query mouse coordinate positions easily enough, but, it really comes down to finding something that you yourself are comfortable with, and, yes, with python I just work with text editors, etc., and, no form of IDE as such, but anyway.

 

Stay well

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-24 12:01, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote:

Hi there,

Interesting question.

Wasn’t sure where to post this (It covers software development, though not of NVDA itself so the NVDA development list didn’t seem appropriate. It could possibly cover addons, but again I don’t know, so with this being a general NVDA list I thought I’d post it here and see what became of it).

There are several things I want to learn in my trip down programmer’s lane, one of which is creating GUIs.

Now I am aware that NVDA is made using Python. Of course, due to the nature of Python (indeed, in my opinion, snake-like), building GUI’s with that will probably be a lot different to building GUI’s in other languages.

In my language of choice, I am stuck with either inaccessible GUI builders or manual coding with numeric representations of controls.

Regardless of what API you use (Windows, WX etc), you’ve got to have some idea of what the numeric representations mean. In Windows I believe it refers to pixels, of which I haven’t a clue about.

In any case. Once the numeric system is sorted there’s then the issue of knowing how the window might look. My program will be no good whatsoever if all the gui is read by NVDA, then I find out from a sighted person that it looks like nothing more than a broken down pile of rubble.

I am aware that NVDA comes with an object log, enabling you to see the state, position and other attributes of a highlighted control. Again though, these are only numeric, probably the same values you’ve coded in yourself.

Of course, there are many things to consider as well. You have to know what the minimum and maximum values are. You have to know whether your GUI will fit on a screen. Whether the controls overlap. Whether the controls and text are big enough to see.

Is there a more detailed system that allows you to look at the GUI the way a sighted person might see it? I was originally thinking an accessible GUI builder might be nice, representing controls, their positions and sizes, and gaps in between them represented audibly. But again, the builder would have to be programmed to code the result in several different languages – not exactly the best system. If NVDA itself could somehow give you that information with a GUI that you have already made though, that would be amazing.

Is there such a system available, either internally or as an addon, and if not, would it even be feasible?

Thanks.

Damien.

 


Re: GUI positioning

Damien Sykes-Lindley <damien@...>
 

Hi there,
How do these actually help in programming a GUI though? Won’t these tools merely inform you of where you have put the controls (In other words, if you programmed a control at X=1000, Y=1000, won’t they tell you that this control is at X=1000 Y=1000?)
How do you know whether these are valid positions, whether they will fit on all screens, whether they look well made, whether they are fairly spaced etc.
Having never had any sight the workings of screens and mice are completely alien to me. All I know is one is a display and one is a complicated kind of navigator. Lol.
I guess this is why, no matter how many times I read the documentation, I can’t get to grips with the different navigation methods of NVDA, or any other screen reader that I may have used in the past. I don’t even know how navigation works, I just know how to do it on a basic system level.
Cheers.
Damien.
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] GUI positioning
 

Hi,

Another handy method is using screen review and object location command (NVDA+Numpad Delete).

I have investigated the ability for NVDA to tell you object coordinates via beeps, but stalled due to the fact that a major refactor must be done in order to properly support this kind of work. The best option, apart from Golden Cursor, is Audio Themes 3D add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GUI positioning

 

Damien, while I primarily work in web dev, where I can either use inline layout, or, at times, use CSS to hard-code, or let elements hover, in the past I did also work with VS.Net versions, where you could sort of handle layout using arrow keys, etc., but, if working with GUI's at moment, I primary work with layout by code, using wx under python - named after Monty Python, FWIW - but, yes, I was sighted before, so I still visualise layout a lot.

 

However, for a simplistic rendition of pixel coordinates, I tell people to consider something like a chess board, for X and Y layout visualisation, and, under wxPython, you can also query layout coordinates, widths, etc., or, while it's been a little while, I used layout grids to make sure elements lined up next to each other, and didn't hover over each other, but anyway.

 

Also, if you install the golden cursor add-on for NVDA, you can query mouse coordinate positions easily enough, but, it really comes down to finding something that you yourself are comfortable with, and, yes, with python I just work with text editors, etc., and, no form of IDE as such, but anyway.

 

Stay well

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-24 12:01, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote:

Hi there,

Interesting question.

Wasn’t sure where to post this (It covers software development, though not of NVDA itself so the NVDA development list didn’t seem appropriate. It could possibly cover addons, but again I don’t know, so with this being a general NVDA list I thought I’d post it here and see what became of it).

There are several things I want to learn in my trip down programmer’s lane, one of which is creating GUIs.

Now I am aware that NVDA is made using Python. Of course, due to the nature of Python (indeed, in my opinion, snake-like), building GUI’s with that will probably be a lot different to building GUI’s in other languages.

In my language of choice, I am stuck with either inaccessible GUI builders or manual coding with numeric representations of controls.

Regardless of what API you use (Windows, WX etc), you’ve got to have some idea of what the numeric representations mean. In Windows I believe it refers to pixels, of which I haven’t a clue about.

In any case. Once the numeric system is sorted there’s then the issue of knowing how the window might look. My program will be no good whatsoever if all the gui is read by NVDA, then I find out from a sighted person that it looks like nothing more than a broken down pile of rubble.

I am aware that NVDA comes with an object log, enabling you to see the state, position and other attributes of a highlighted control. Again though, these are only numeric, probably the same values you’ve coded in yourself.

Of course, there are many things to consider as well. You have to know what the minimum and maximum values are. You have to know whether your GUI will fit on a screen. Whether the controls overlap. Whether the controls and text are big enough to see.

Is there a more detailed system that allows you to look at the GUI the way a sighted person might see it? I was originally thinking an accessible GUI builder might be nice, representing controls, their positions and sizes, and gaps in between them represented audibly. But again, the builder would have to be programmed to code the result in several different languages – not exactly the best system. If NVDA itself could somehow give you that information with a GUI that you have already made though, that would be amazing.

Is there such a system available, either internally or as an addon, and if not, would it even be feasible?

Thanks.

Damien.