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Re: NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Hi, I’ll announce a decision soon on this list and on the development list. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 4:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Hi Joseph, Thank you, thank you, thank you! I dread to think how many times I have been seemingly unsubscribed from the list without so much as a bounce notification, unsubscription confirmation or anything of that sort, then I only notice it months after it happened because when I’m sending emails to the list it isn’t reaching. I think when I recently resubscribed the count was up to 5. Are there any plans for the addon list? Are we moving to groups.io or are we discussing them here? Cheers.
From: Joseph Lee Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:01 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Hi everyone,
I’m sending this message as the owner of the NVDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists:
For several days, whenever I and others try to send a message to NvDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists, we get delivery failure notices. This, along with bouncing problem, leads me to believe that we need to initiate an emergency list migration. Thus the Freelists list is in lockdown mode until further notice. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: query
Gene
Instead of listing commands, I'll provide a brief tutorial
I did recently which lists some and gives a link to a popular tutorial.
Also, I'll describe how to use the quick
keys reference guide.
Main new steps start on new lines.
Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n.
Type h to open help. Down arrow to the quick keys reference and press
enter.
The quick commands page will open in your default
browser.
Move from category to category using the letter h.
Move back with shift h.
Once at a category you want to examine, down arrow through
the items.
Here, below my signature, is the
tutorial
The tutorial is about moving from Window-eyes to NVDA but
anyone can use it to learn NVDA commands.
Gene
Moving from Window-eyes to NVDA
A very short tutorial telling you just what you need to know to do a lot of what you did before. First, a word about using the tutorial. I explain
concepts in the tutorial but
much of what I do is to give commands that are different in NVDA. As I explain, a lot of what you do won't change but certain things will require different commands. To use this tutorial effectively, practicing many
commands I give might be very
useful. For example, when I give screen review commands, stopping reading and practicing in this document might help you remember and learn them. When I describe input help, turning it on and trying different keys and combinations of keys might be helpful. You will find, for example, that the screen review commands I give are announced when you have key describer on and issue the commands. That will help you review quickly and efficiently if you for get any of them, something that is far more likely to occur in the laptop layout than the desktop layout. Now that I've suggested ways to use it effectively, the tutorial begins. Many people are apprehensive about switching to NVDA or
any other screen-reader
from Window-eyes. This tutorial will explain and demonstrate that such apprehensions are largely based on misunderstandings. Before I discuss the misunderstanding that causes most of this apprehension, I'll briefly discuss installing NVDA and changing the synthesizer used and speech parameters. NVDA has a talking installer. run the file as you
would any installation file.
you may get a dialog asking if you want to run the file. Use the command alt r for run. If you get a UAC prompt, answer alt y. Run narrator. Then run the NVDA installer. when you run the installer, there will be a pause and then a bit of music will play. Not long after, the talking installer will run. Unload Narrator at that point. return to the install dialog. Tab through the dchoices. Accept the license agreement and then tab to install. You will get other options but install is the one you want. Don't stop using NvDA because of the voice. A lot of
people don't try NVDA because
of the voice. As soon as you get it set up, I'll tell you how to change the synthesizer used. When NVDA is installed and running, a dialog box comes up
with some explanatory
text and the ability to set one or two options. While I know a lot of people very much dislike the default voice, it's worth listening to the dialog and looking at the settings by tabbing through them. I would recommend checking the check box to use caps lock as an NVDA modifier. You'll see why I recommend this in later discussion. After you go through the initial parameters dialog, it's
time to learn how to change the synthesizer.
First, a word on terminology. By default, NVDA uses
either insert in combination with other keys to give commands to the
screen-reader. I shall refer to the NVDA key when I am refering to these
keys. also, you can tell NVDA to use the caps lock key as an NVDA key as
well. At times, this is very convenient. When I say NVDA key, it refers to
any of these keys.
To change the synthesizer, issue the command control NVDA
key s.
A synthesizer selection dialog will open. You will see a list of different possibly available synthesizers. Choose SAPI 5. I know everyone has at least one SAPI 5 voice on their machine. Up and down arrow through the list and stop on SAPI five. Press enter. You will now hear another voice. It may be the same voice you hear in Narrator. Now issue the command control NVDA key v. You are now in the voice selection and adjustment dialog. Up and down arrow to see what voices are available. Stop on the one you want. Now tab through the dialog and change settings for the voice. Once you find a voice you want and tab through and set whatever you want such as speed and punctuation, press the ok button. Now, let's continue with what I spoke of at the start of
this tutorial. The
misunderstanding that makes the switch to NVDA from Window-eyes or from any other screen-reader seem daunting is that the user doesn't realize that most of the commands he/she uses are Windows commands and program commands and they won't change. Consider the following examples: Opening menus was and still is alt. That's a Windows command to open menus in programs. It's the same no matter which screen-reader you use. Control o for open doesn't change. Using the arrow keys to move in a document doesn't change. Tabbing through dialogs doesn't change. Neither does how you move in a list or a treeview or work with a combo box, and the list goes on. Screen-reader commands, many of which may change, such as read title bar, provide access to information you can't get or can't get conveniently by using Windows or program commands. for example, read title bar. In Window-eyes, the command is control shift t. In NVDA, it's NVDA key t. The title bar is something a sighted person looks at. You can't move to it with the pc cursor or application cursor, whatever you wish to call it, because there is no need. A sighted person can just see it. So the screen-reader has a command, read title bar. That command is not a Windows nor a program command. Here are the screen-reader commands you will need to know to allow you to do a lot of what you did before. To unload NVDA, NVDA key q then enter. Read title bar, NVDA key t. Time, NVDA key f12. Announce formatting information, NVDA key f. Read current Window, NVDA b. In Window-eyes the command is control shift w. Read to end, NVDA key down arrow. Use the down arrow on the main keyboard. In the laptop layout, read to end is NVDA key a. Stop speech with control, as with screen-readers in general. I'm about to discuss screen-review commands. those
let you review the screen
without changing the position of the cursor when editing a document, or changing where you are in a dialog or anywhere else. But first, I'll point out that Commands such as left arrow, right arrow, control home, control end, control left arrow, and control right arrow are Windows movement commands for moving in any standard edit field including word processor edit fields. None of them will change. Screen review commands:
Note the pattern as I give these commands: Read previous line, numpad 7. Read current line, numpad 8. Read next line numpad nine. You move in screen review to the previous or next line when you issue those commands. You can keep moving and reading until you get to the top or bottom of the screen. Read previous word, numpad 4. Read current word, numpad 5. Read next word, numpad 6. Read previous character, numpad 1. Read current character, numpad 2. Read next character, numpad 3. Note the pattern. Read current is the key in the middle of each of these rows. Move to and read previous is the key on the left. Move to and read next is the key to the right. The lower the numbers the smaller the movement unit. 1 2 and 3 move by character. 4 5 and 6 move by word, etc. Now, here are the laptop layout review commands: Read current line, NVDA key shift period Move to and read next line, NVDA key down arrow. Move to and read previous line NVDA key up arrow. Read current word NVDA key control period Read previous word NVDA key control left arrow Read next word NVDA key control right arrow Announce current character NVDA key period. Move to and read previous character NVDA key left arrow Move to and read next character NVDA right arrow. After a little more discussion, I'll tell you how to change the keyboard layout to laptop. Getting back to the review keys in the laptop layout, There are sort of patterns in the laptop layout but not the kind of uniform pattern as in the desktop layout. If I had a laptop computer without a numpad, I'd buy a USB numpad and not fool around with the laptop layout. But you can decide that for yourself. But aside from predictable keys such as that period is used for current, and that left and right arrows are useed with modifiers, you can't generalize more. Such patterns are not followed in every previous and next item. In one of the previous and next items, up and down arrow is used. I shall now explain how to change the layout from the
desktop to the laptop layout
and discuss causing the caps lock to be used as an NVDA key. If you add capslock, you can still use either insert. there are times when caps lock is very convenient. to open the keyboard layout issue the command control NVDA
key k.
You are now in a list of layouts. the desktop is the default and the first in the list. If you want to switch to the laptop layout, down arrow once and then tab to and activate the ok button. You will notice as you tab, check boxes about which keys
serve as the NVDA key.
Caps lock is not checked. Check it with the space bar. You can stay in the desk top layout and still tab and see these check boxes. I use the caps lock key as an NVDA key often and I use the desktop layout. I find it much more convenient to use for the read to end command. I hold caps lock and press down arrow. That is, to me, much more convenient than using insert down arrow, regardless of which insert I use. If you want to toggle caps lock on and off for typing, press it twice quickly. If you press it once and hold it, it serves as an NVDA key. If you press it twice quickly, it toggles caps lock on and off. Here are two more important commands:
Jump to top of window, shift numpad 7. Laptop layout command: control NVDA key home. Jump to bottom of window is shift numpad 9. Laptop layout command: Control NVDA key end. I've said top and bottom of Window but that's
oversimplified. It depends what kind
of review mode you are using. I won't go into that to any extent in this very short tutorial. If you are reviewing material in a word processor, use the
review commands I've
given. If you are in a dialog or some other structures, in order to see what is on screen, change to screen review mode. to do this, use the command NVDA key numpad 7. Here, it is most convenient to use the numpad insert as the NVDA key in the desktop layout. In the laptop layout, the command is NVDA key page up. Issue the command and repeat it if necessary until you hear screen review. then you can use the review commands such as numpad 7, 8 9, etc. to review what is on screen. Use the same commands I gave earlier for review. To left click with the mouse, route the mouse to the
review position with the
command NVDA key numpad slash. In the desktop layout, again it is most convenient to use the numpad insert. Then left click with numpad slash by itself. That is the same command you left click wwith in Window-eyes. If you want to right click, route the mouse with the same command, NVDA key numpad slash, then use numpad star, the key immediately to the right of numpad slash, the key immediately to the right of the left click key. In other words, you right click with the same key you use in Window-eyes. After you have finished working in screen review, it is
very important to return
to object review. Issue the command NVDA key numpad one in the desktop layout. Again, the numpad insert is most convenient to use. the laptop layout command is NVDA Key page down. Repeat the command if necessary until you hear object review. If you don't do this, you will often hear incorrect information about where you are when you do various things in NVDA. Screen review, though the commands are different, is similar in concept to using the mouse pointer in Window-eyes. Object navigation is different from any review mode in Window-eyes. I won't teach its use here but you will find a discussion of it in a tutorial I will give an address for later in this tutorial. Depending on how you use your computer, you may find it very useful. That is just about all I will teach in this very short
tutorial. As I said, its
purpose is to allow you to do much of what you do with Window-eyes quickly and easily. But I'll tell you a few more things. Internet browsing:
When you are on a web page, quick navigation commands are almost identical whether you are using NVDA or Window-eyes. Move by headings is h. Skip blocks of links is n. Move to next button is b, Next combo box is c. Next check box is x. NVDA has an input help mode which is similar to what is in Window-eyes. NVDA key and 1 on the main keyboard turns it on. When you press a key or combination of keys that might be a command, you will hear what the keys are and what, if any command they execute. This varies depending on where you are. When in a browser that supports browse mode, typing a lot of individual letters will give you information about what the keys do in browse mode. I already gave much of that information above but you may want to press a lot of keys using input mode in a browser. To turn input mode off use the same command you used to turn it on, NVDA key 1. to learn more about NVDA, a popular tutorial is available
at
http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials On that page, you will see links to download different sections of the tutorial dealing with different subjects. You can also download the entire tutorial as a zip file. There is also an e-mail list for NVDA users. To
join, send a blank message to this
address: nvda+subscribe@nvda.groups.io I hope that this tutorial has removed much of your
apprehension about switching to
NVDA. Now, as you wish or need, you may consult the tutorial I gave a link to. NVDA is a powerful screen-reader and it will meet a lot of users needs as well as JAWS or Window-eyes does. I hope this very short tutorial gives you a good foundation on which to build confidence that the transition should be much easier than you may have thought and that it will help make it much more enjoyable. Gene
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Re: microsoft windows oneCore voices
anthony borg
Hi leo
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Can you please explain to me more fully how to download those voices packages? Thanks in advance Anthony borg
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lev Sent: 10 June 2017 12:12 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft windows oneCore voices yes of course, you are already using english us as your primary language. In order to get the other english voices you need to add more languages, english uk, english canada and so on... once you had added the packages you want you can go to options and then download only voice package for every language. Leo El 9/6/2017 a las 17:16, Josh Kennedy escribió: hi
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Re: Can't check the remember me box in the Spotify app
Gene
No. Either you are having an individual
problem with the app or the app no longer works properly, at least from the
keyboard, in that field.
Gene
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From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Can't check the remember me box in the Spotify
app having. It didn't, but I thought I'd try. Only now I can't check the "Remember me" checkbox on the login screen. I've tried space and enter, both in and out of focus mode, and even tried left click but that didn't work either. Is there another command I've forgotten that could help me?
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Re: query
anthony borg
Hi gene
If you don’t mind when you have time, can you please send me a lis of the most used shortcuts in NVDA?
And also, can you please explain to me what tha jarte used for?
Thanks in advance
Anthony borg
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] query
hi
how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.
Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.
I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.
Gene nz
On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Can't check the remember me box in the Spotify app
Sharni-Lee Ward
I logged out of the Spotify app to see if that would fix a problem I was
having. It didn't, but I thought I'd try. Only now I can't check the "Remember me" checkbox on the login screen. I've tried space and enter, both in and out of focus mode, and even tried left click but that didn't work either. Is there another command I've forgotten that could help me?
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Re: NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Damien Sykes-Lindley <damien@...>
Hi Joseph,
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I dread to think how many times I have
been seemingly unsubscribed from the list without so much as a bounce
notification, unsubscription confirmation or anything of that sort, then I only
notice it months after it happened because when I’m sending emails to the list
it isn’t reaching. I think when I recently resubscribed the count was up to
5.
Are there any plans for the addon list? Are we moving to groups.io or are
we discussing them here?
Cheers.
Damien.
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown
mode Hi everyone,
I’m sending this message as the owner of the NVDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists:
For several days, whenever I and others try to send a message to NvDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists, we get delivery failure notices. This, along with bouncing problem, leads me to believe that we need to initiate an emergency list migration. Thus the Freelists list is in lockdown mode until further notice. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Hi,
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It appears a series of mailing lists are affected on Freelists, or it might be for certain email addresses. I just tried to send a test message to the translations mailing list to no avail. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:10 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode This used to happen from time to time before when I used Freelists. Normally it ended up that whole domains like theirs had been blacklisted making delivery impossible until their listing got removed and in the meantime no messages got through as the bounces triggered the suspensions of accounts. This whole area of anti spam for multiple emails from domain seems to have got a lot worse in recent months, with legitimate news letters being sent out through email getting blocked etc. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:01 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode Hi everyone,
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Re: microsoft windows oneCore voices
Leo
yes of course,
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you are already using english us as your primary language. In order to get the other english voices you need to add more languages, english uk, english canada and so on... once you had added the packages you want you can go to options and then download only voice package for every language. Leo
El 9/6/2017 a las 17:16, Josh Kennedy escribió:
hi
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Re: NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Brian's Mail list account
This used to happen from time to time before when I used Freelists. Normally it ended up that whole domains like theirs had been blacklisted making delivery impossible until their listing got removed and in the meantime no messages got through as the bounces triggered the suspensions of accounts. This whole area of anti spam for multiple emails from domain seems to have got a lot worse in recent months, with legitimate news letters being sent out through email getting blocked etc.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:01 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode Hi everyone,
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NVDA add-ons list on Freelists: list in lockdown mode
Hi everyone,
I’m sending this message as the owner of the NVDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists:
For several days, whenever I and others try to send a message to NvDA add-ons list hosted at Freelists, we get delivery failure notices. This, along with bouncing problem, leads me to believe that we need to initiate an emergency list migration. Thus the Freelists list is in lockdown mode until further notice. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Where are the add-ons hiding?
Tony Ballou
Hi,
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Not a problem. Tony
On 6/9/2017 1:51 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Awesome! thank you.
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Re: Scrolling in the windows console
Brian's Mail list account
There is the other issue which has always plagued command prompt in that the standard paste gives you v in the command line and you have to bring down the menu and paste it in with that instead. I'd have thought these things should have been sorted out by microsoft, after all the dos emulation is just a shell.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Scrolling in the windows console I don't think this is an NVDA issue. I think a sighted person would need to do this as well. If the console is the same in its operation as the DOS prompt, and I haven't looked into the matter at all, but at a DOS prompt, there is a switch you can use that causes output to be displayed by screen/ For example, dir/p causes directory information to be displayed one screen at a time and you use page down to move to the next screen. Note the slash after dir followed by p. I added that for those who are listening with speech and with punctuation off. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Anton Shusharin Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in the windows console Hi. Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the archives. When I enter a command at the command prompt, if the output is very long, only around 30 lines of it are available for review with the review cursor. I can activate the buttons to scroll the output with object navigation, however this results in the text disappearing from the terminal object with only the prompt remaining. So is there a way to review all console output without having to redirect it to a file?
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Re: Scrolling in the windows console
Brian's Mail list account
I think you are right here. Its a restriction of the system itself. I don't know if the new shell is any different, as I tend to use the old command prompt one rather than the flashy newer one.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Scrolling in the windows console I don't think this is an NVDA issue. I think a sighted person would need to do this as well. If the console is the same in its operation as the DOS prompt, and I haven't looked into the matter at all, but at a DOS prompt, there is a switch you can use that causes output to be displayed by screen/ For example, dir/p causes directory information to be displayed one screen at a time and you use page down to move to the next screen. Note the slash after dir followed by p. I added that for those who are listening with speech and with punctuation off. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Anton Shusharin Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in the windows console Hi. Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the archives. When I enter a command at the command prompt, if the output is very long, only around 30 lines of it are available for review with the review cursor. I can activate the buttons to scroll the output with object navigation, however this results in the text disappearing from the terminal object with only the prompt remaining. So is there a way to review all console output without having to redirect it to a file?
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Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks
Brian's Mail list account
No it failed on a move file in the installer.
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From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks That's odd. I installed Jarte 6.1 a while ago and had no issues
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Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks
Brian's Mail list account
Well maybe its something to do with which version you already have. as it says its trying to move a file, cannot do so so gives an error. I suppose one could totally uninstall and then reinstall and see if that works, but its not what usually happens. I'm not sure what the extras of Jarte new version are for non paying users, so I've not bothered to look at it further. Might try it on an XP machine witch has less restraints on this sort of thing than 7 and 10 does.
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From: "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks Hi,
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Re: Scrolling in the windows console
Gene
I don't think this is an NVDA issue. I think
a sighted person would need to do this as well. If the console is the same
in its operation as the DOS prompt, and I haven't looked into the matter at all,
but at a DOS prompt, there is a switch you can use that causes output to be
displayed by screen/ For example, dir/p causes directory information
to be displayed one screen at a time and you use page down to move to the next
screen.
Note the slash after dir followed by p. I
added that for those who are listening with speech and with punctuation
off.
Gene
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From: Anton Shusharin
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] Scrolling in the windows console Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the archives. When I enter a command at the command prompt, if the output is very long, only around 30 lines of it are available for review with the review cursor. I can activate the buttons to scroll the output with object navigation, however this results in the text disappearing from the terminal object with only the prompt remaining. So is there a way to review all console output without having to redirect it to a file?
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Scrolling in the windows console
Anton Shusharin
Hi.
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the archives. When I enter a command at the command prompt, if the output is very long, only around 30 lines of it are available for review with the review cursor. I can activate the buttons to scroll the output with object navigation, however this results in the text disappearing from the terminal object with only the prompt remaining. So is there a way to review all console output without having to redirect it to a file?
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Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks
Kwork
Same here. No problem on Win 7, 64-bit. Jarte Plus.
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From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks I have Jarte plus and had no problem installing the latest update on my windows 7 machine. -----Original Message----- From: Pauline Smith Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:51 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks Good Morning, Thanks for the warning regarding the latest version of Jarte. For now, I will use the older version. Pauline On 6/9/2017 2:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I just tried to install it on my Windows 7 box and it claims it cannot
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Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks
hello.
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please nvda users and developers read whats new in jarte website! i read that for some changes in nvda, nvda causes error in jarte and developers of jarte prevented the error! thanks so much and God bless you all!
On 6/10/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK. Will have a look. --
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