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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:09 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
The fn key, NO!- OK. I am not going to argue with anyone's personal experience that differs from mine. I am not all seeing, but I have touched a lot of computers (and their keyboards) since 1981. There are multiple close window shortcuts, including, but not limited to ALT + F4 (but which also closes the running program in some cases), ALT + FN + F4, ALT + Spacebar followed by C. There are probably others, too. And all of these are Windows-level keyboard shortcuts, not program level, so they should be able to be used regardless of the window that has focus. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: DVD player apps for WIN 10
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Actually I got even a better suggestion from an FB friend. DVD Audio Extractor which rocks with NVDA.
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On 12/9/2021 11:58 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Your best bet would be to ask on the windows 10 list. Good luck. Free? You get what you pay for so yeah, no!
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Mary Otten
My current keyboard is one that you described as not usual, i.e. I still have that 2nd windows key on the right, rather than the fn key that you have.
Mary
On 12/9/2021 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel
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And this keyboard does, of course, have a FN key.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Tyler,
After looking at more, though, those that feature a right Windows key have generally replaced what would have been the Fn key on them. I've never had a PC come with this style of keyboard "straight out of the box." But there are a number of replacement USB keyboard keyboards where the FN key has been replaced. As an aside, ALT + Spacebar, C also closes a window, so there is a method even for keyboards sans an FN key. Windows generally gives a number of roads to Rome for fundamental commands. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Mary Otten
I have a full keyboard from das keyboard that does not have an fn key. In fact, as I think back on full keyboards I've had, I can't think of a single one that had that key. Function keys? Yes. The fn key, NO!
Mary
On 12/9/2021 8:40 PM, Brian Vogel
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:38 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
And this keyboard does, of course, have a FN key.
To the left of the spacebar, starting from leftmost and moving inward: CTRL, Windows Key, ALT To the right of the spacebar, starting immediately to the right of the spacebar, and moving rightward: ALT, Context Menu/Applications Key, FN key, CTRL There are some keyboards with a left and right Windows key, but it's far more conventional for there to be but one, and on the left side of the spacebar. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Tyler Spivey
Something like this shouldn't have one, though I can't see it to confirm:
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https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-KU-0833-Wired-Keyboard/dp/B005EOWBHC/ A standard keyboard has left ALT, left Windows and left CTRL to the left of the space bar, and right ALT, right Windows, Applications and right CTRL to the right of the space bar. None of those are an FN key, so I'm interested in figuring out what your OS thinks it's receiving when you use it.
On 12/9/2021 8:40 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:38 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
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Re: DVD player apps for WIN 10
Your best bet would be to ask on the windows 10 list. Good luck. Free? You get what you pay for so yeah, no!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] DVD player apps for WIN 10 Hello. Are their any free accessible DVD player apps for WIN 10? Just bought A Charlie Brown Christmas on Amazon. Thanks.
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Re: help with Weather-Plus
Betsy Grenevitch
I am using the one that just came out.
On 12/9/2021 10:49 PM, Eduardo Fermiano
Luccas wrote:
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:38 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Most non-laptop keyboards don't have an FN key.- If you can show me a regular keyboard without a FN key, I'd like to see it. The function key has been a staple of PC keyboards, period, for as long as I've been using PCs, which is since their introduction. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Tyler Spivey
Most non-laptop keyboards don't have an FN key. What does ALT+FN+F4 say in NVDA's input help when you press it?
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On 12/9/2021 8:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
To close the tab you are in, control f4.- Which is not what I said. And you're not incorrect. If you want to close a single window, and all its tabs, of a program that has multiple windows open you use ALT + FN + F4. Since that's what CTRL + SHIFT + W happens to do in Chrome, and what was being talked about in that context, I brought up the Windows "generic" command that causes the same thing to occur. CTRL + W also closes a tab, too, but I didn't bring that up. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Gene
Not alt fn f4;. To close the tab you are in, control f4.
Gene
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2021 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] control+shift+w command must be changed in
weater plus On
Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:02 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote: i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA- Which is true, you can use the pass-through command. I'm just not sure why you'd want to. There is another command that does what you want to do unless you've got multiple Chrome windows open and only want to close one of them with all its tabs. If one wants to only close the window with focus of a program that's got multiple open windows, ALT + FN + F4 does that. If one wants to close the program, ALT + F4 does that. Fewer keystrokes than using passthrough followed by CTRL + SHIFT + W -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:02 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA- Which is true, you can use the pass-through command. I'm just not sure why you'd want to. There is another command that does what you want to do unless you've got multiple Chrome windows open and only want to close one of them with all its tabs. If one wants to only close the window with focus of a program that's got multiple open windows, ALT + FN + F4 does that. If one wants to close the program, ALT + F4 does that. Fewer keystrokes than using passthrough followed by CTRL + SHIFT + W -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
ok sorry brian now that i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 00:56, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 09:29 PM, Jackie wrote:
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 09:29 PM, Jackie wrote:
Having thus said, alt f4 can substitute for ctrl shift w in Chrome, but I don't see anywhere where NVDA even uses this.- Jackie, You are indeed correct that NVDA itself does not use this shortcut, but the Weather_Plus add-on does. Here's the description: 'Adds local temperature and forecast 24 ours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+w for the current bulletin.\n', 'NVDA+shift+w for the prediction in the current 24 hours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+shift+control+w for quickly enter a temporary city.\n', 'NVDA + shift + control + alt + w for open the Weather Plus settings.\n', 'NVDA+alt+w announces the date of the last update of the weather report.\n', 'Shift+control+w alternates between Fahrenheit, Celsius and Kelvin.\n', 'For other instructions, you can also press Add-on Help button in Add-ons manager.' But it's ludicrous to declare that any add-on developer must substitute a keyboard shortcut. There are a finite number of keyboard shortcuts, and there will always, always be possibilities of overlap. In a case like this, I would expect that NVDA (or, more accurately, the Weather_Plus add-on) would intercept this shortcut, so it would have no effect in the Chrome browser, but I could be wrong about that. If, by some chance, it were being passed through to Chrome, then it could be remapped in input gestures. No developer can know what specific programs any given individual user might be using, and if an alternative exists for the same function, and closing the browser is one, then there's no problem. As you've noted, ALT + F4 does precisely the same thing as CTRL + SHIFT + W in Chrome itself. I use CTRL + W to close individual tabs all the time, but if I want to exit Chrome or any other program in its entirety I rely exclusively on the Windows-wide keyboard shortcut for that purpose, ALT + F4. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: help with Weather-Plus
Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
are you really using the latest NVDA? if your version isn't 2021.3, you're not talking about the latest one, and I recommend updating if you haven't. Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 23:28, Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> escreveu:
I had forgotten that this ad-on was not on this laptop until today. I am
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Re: DVD player apps for WIN 10
Noah Davis
Hi,
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I use VLC and like it a lot. It can of course be used for more than DVD's, but that is primarily what I use it for. -Noah
On 12/9/21, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hello. Are their any free accessible DVD player apps for WIN 10? Just
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DVD player apps for WIN 10
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Hello. Are their any free accessible DVD player apps for WIN 10? Just bought A Charlie Brown Christmas on Amazon. Thanks.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
Jackie
NVDA commands are prefaced w/the NVDA key of your choosing so as
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specifically not to interfere w/other keyboard shortcuts. Having thus said, alt f4 can substitute for ctrl shift w in Chrome, but I don't see anywhere where NVDA even uses this.
On 12/9/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
sará, I can do this, but it should have another command by default --
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