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Re: Some topic in the main group indicate that they're from chat

Louise Pfau
 

Hi Brian.  I'm sorry.  It looked like the topic "Chat, NVDA, and Manamon" dated January 12, 2021 was a chat message because the word "Chat" had been placed in the subject line.  I couldn't find another example, because I'm having difficulty limiting the search results from the archive to more recent entries with the text [chat] entered into the edit box.  I was the one who misdirected an inquiry about accessibility with Windows Live Mail to the main group, because in some ways I find Windows Live Mail more user-friendly than the gMail web interface.

Thanks,

Louise


Tutorials on Using MS-Excel with NVDA

reddimalla reddimalla <reddimalla3@...>
 

Hello all!

I'm Shyam from Hyderabad. Is there any website to learn MS-Excel? If yes please share the url. or else is there any tutorials?


Re: reordering columns in Thunderbird

Gene
 

You may be using a version of the add-on that is too old. If so, you will get a message saying something like, not in a message list. If you are experiencing another problem, I'm not sure what the cause might be.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reordering columns in Thunderbird



Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with newer Thunderbird versions. The key definition is still assigned but the action no longer works.

This is also the case with the latest compiled addon from GitHub.


On 19/01/2021 5:32 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:


Charlotte, using the mozilla NVDA add-on, this is quite easy - NVDA key + H while in message list brings up the dialogue to reorder columns.




https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html





Stay well



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-01-16 09:50 PM, Charlotte wrote:
Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte


Re: reordering columns in Thunderbird

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I’m using TB 78.6.1, NVDA 2020.3 and it works as disigned, The only problem I found at my end was the overlapping hotkey NVDA-H which was already used by the addon screen wrapping.

Best, Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2021 10:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reordering columns in Thunderbird

 

Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with newer Thunderbird versions. The key definition is still assigned but the action no longer works.

This is also the case with the latest compiled addon from GitHub.

On 19/01/2021 5:32 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Charlotte, using the mozilla NVDA add-on, this is quite easy - NVDA key + H while in message list brings up the dialogue to reorder columns.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-01-16 09:50 PM, Charlotte wrote:

Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte







Re: Tony's add-ons: new and updated

abdul muhamin
 

Hi, great work man, love it, one thing more. Create an addon to read files on the fly, there was an addon called file reader, I’m searching for an alternative, it was very useful specially when playing fighting games,.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's add-ons: new and updated

 

Fixed in IndentNav v1.11.

 

--Tony

 

On 1/12/2021 10:23 AM, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:

> Thanks!

> 2021-01-12 11:33 GMT-03:00, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...>:

>> Got it, will look into that issue with IndentNav.

>> 

>> On 1/11/2021 7:23 PM, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:

>>> Hi Tony! Thank you very much for all these add-ons, especially

>>> WordNav. I used that Tony enhancements add-on a lot in VS Code but it

>>> had to be enabled and disabled, since in UIA NVDA it said selected and

>>> unselected all the time.

>>> Since you corrected that, I imagine you already know how to do it, you

>>> could correct that same error for IndentNav? In Visual Studio has that

>>> behavior, NVDA says selected and unselected every time I use it. It

>>> also happens to me in Windows 10 Sticky Notes, which also uses UI

>>> Automation.

>>> 

>>> Thank you very much in advance!

>>> 

>>> 2021-01-11 9:32 GMT-03:00, Suhas Dharwad <twigsnap7@...>:

>>>> sentence nav, word nav, and symbols, does sound quite interesting.

>>>> 

>>>> Will give it a try.

>>>> thanks.

>>>> 

>>>> ---Suhas

>>>> Sent from Thunderbird <https://www.thunderbird.net/>

>>>> —

>>>> 

>>>>       “Things can turn out differently, Apollo.

>>>>       That's the nice thing about being human.

>>>>       We only have one life, but we can choose what kind of story it's

>>>>       going to be.”

>>>> 

>>>> Rick Riordan <https://rickriordan.com/>

>>>> On 1/10/2021 3:43, Tony Malykh wrote:

>>>>> Hello all,

>>>>> 

>>>>> This is Tony, author of many NVDA add-ons. During holidays I updated

>>>>> many of my add-ons, and wrote two new add-ons, so I would like to

>>>>> share them with you guys. This is a long email, so please feel free to

>>>>> navigate by headings!

>>>>> 

>>>>> Please note that links on the official website have not been updated,

>>>>> as it seems that nobody has access to that website anymore. Therefore,

>>>>> please download directly from Github, download links included below.

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>     New add-ons:

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       WordNav

>>>>> 

>>>>> It takes word navigation to the next level in NVDA. It standardizes

>>>>> what exactly does word mean, e.g. does it include punctuation before

>>>>> and after, moreover, it offers various definitions of word, some of

>>>>> which might be useful for software developers, for example when they

>>>>> are working with camelCaseIdentifiers. It redefines Control+Left/Right

>>>>> keystrokes, as well as it adds optional Control+Windows+Left/Right

>>>>> keystrokes. Configuration panel included!

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/download/v1.2/wordNav-1.2.nvda-addon

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       Console toolkit

>>>>> 

>>>>> This is a collection of tools for heavy console users. Among its

>>>>> features are:

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·More realtime speaking of console output

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·* Beep on update

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Control+V shortcut now works in ssh connections

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Editing of current prompt in accessible window

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Capturing command output, including multi-page, and displaying it in

>>>>> an accessible window

>>>>> 

>>>>> Please note, it supports the default Windows console, a.k.a. command

>>>>> prompt, as well as windows PowerShell.

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/download/v0.2dev/consoleToolkit-0.2dev.nvda-addon

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>     Updates

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       SentenceNav

>>>>> 

>>>>> This add-on allows to read text sentence by sentence using Alt+Up/Down

>>>>> keystroke. I managed to improve its performance a lot, now it reads

>>>>> sentences much faster, especially in large paragraphs. I also added

>>>>> experimental support for Microsoft Word and WordPad – before this

>>>>> version built-in NVDA logic applied to sentence navigation in these

>>>>> programs, and many users have complained about that. Also, a number of

>>>>> bugfixes. Also I wrote extensive documentation, since sentence finding

>>>>> code has become so complicated, even I myself is having a hard time

>>>>> reading my own code after a couple of years since first release 😊

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon

>>>>> 

>>>>> <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon>

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       BrowserNav

>>>>> 

>>>>> BrowserNav contains a set of improvements to browse mode in NVDA.

>>>>> Besides a number of bugfixes, this new version includes command to

>>>>> jump to next text written in different style (bound to tilde, that

>>>>> weird key right above Tab), and a command to scroll down to reveal all

>>>>> the hidden content, bound to backslash. That last command might be

>>>>> useful for websites, that load content dynamically. This includes

>>>>> Youtube, that doesn’t load the entire page and expects users to scroll

>>>>> down to reveal certain elements, and also so called infinite scroll

>>>>> webpages, such as Amazon and Facebook.

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon

>>>>> 

>>>>> <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon>

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       Tony’s enhancements

>>>>> 

>>>>> This add-on is an incubator for my experimental ideas, yet I believe

>>>>> many of them might be quite handy for many users. In particular, this

>>>>> time WordNav and Console toolkit mentioned above have graduated from

>>>>> this incubator. 😊 Among new features that I added are QuickSearch

>>>>> command, that allows to quickly find predefined text or regular

>>>>> expression in text files. I personally find it useful for editing

>>>>> markdown, because you can set the regular expression to search for

>>>>> next/previous heading, and also for programming. Another new feature

>>>>> allows to set system priority for NVDA process – this might improve

>>>>> responsiveness of NVDA, especially when CPU load is high.

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon

>>>>> 

>>>>> <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon>

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>     Other

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>       NVDA Symbols

>>>>> 

>>>>> This is not an add-on, but rather a comprehensive (more or less) table

>>>>> of unicode characters with their proper English names. In particular,

>>>>> it includes math symbols (the ones that are not defined in NVDA),

>>>>> Greek letters, technical symbols, various arrows, etc. If you’re

>>>>> Greek, you would probably want to exclude Greek letters from this

>>>>> dictionary. If you speak CJK languages, you would probably want to

>>>>> exclude fixed-width punctuation page from that dictionary. This table

>>>>> would need to be added manually to your symbols.dic file in NVDA user

>>>>> config directory.

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/

>>>>> <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/>

>>>>> 

>>>>> ·Download:

>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic

>>>>> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic>

>>>>> 

>>>>> Let me know what you think!

>>>>> 

>>>>> Belated happy new year!

>>>>> 

>>>>> --Tony

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: reordering columns in Thunderbird

Jacob Kruger
 

I just tested it in a portable version of Thunderbird 78.6, as well as here in Thunderbird 60.0, and, both worked fine?


But, don't have newer versions of thunderbird installed directly, so, yes, could cause hassles there?


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-01-19 11:45 AM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:

Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with newer Thunderbird versions. The key definition is still assigned but the action no longer works.

This is also the case with the latest compiled addon from GitHub.

On 19/01/2021 5:32 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Charlotte, using the mozilla NVDA add-on, this is quite easy - NVDA key + H while in message list brings up the dialogue to reorder columns.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-01-16 09:50 PM, Charlotte wrote:
Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte








Re: reordering columns in Thunderbird

Sam Taylor
 

Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with newer Thunderbird versions. The key definition is still assigned but the action no longer works.

This is also the case with the latest compiled addon from GitHub.

On 19/01/2021 5:32 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Charlotte, using the mozilla NVDA add-on, this is quite easy - NVDA key + H while in message list brings up the dialogue to reorder columns.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-01-16 09:50 PM, Charlotte wrote:
Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte








Re: reordering columns in Thunderbird

Jacob Kruger
 

Charlotte, using the mozilla NVDA add-on, this is quite easy - NVDA key + H while in message list brings up the dialogue to reorder columns.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-01-16 09:50 PM, Charlotte wrote:
Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte








reordering columns in Thunderbird

Charlotte
 

Hello everyone. I just got a new laptop and my columns in Thunderbird are wonky again. The subject is first. Wondering how to reorder them so it is from, date, subject, in that order. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte


Re: What is the best password manager to use with NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

John,

Keypass 2 is the best one if you want a non-cloud password manager.

I am told if you want a cloud based one, then one pass is accessible.

Pranav


Re: Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Janet,

I'm so sorry, yes of course it is control+shift+e.  I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote the first reply!

Track changes only monitors changes made while the feature is active.  If track changes was on when a change was made, NVDA will read it as you navigate.  If there are changes not being reported, it is likely that track changes was not enabled when that change was made

So, if I have a document with "Hello Fred" in it, if I turn on track changes, delete "Hello" and type "Goodbye".  As I read that line, NVDA will read "Deleted Hello, Inserted Goodbye, Not inserted Fred".

If I turn off track changes, then delete Fred and type Jane, NVDA will read: "Deleted Hello, Inserted Goodbye, Not inserted Jane".

Also if you "accept" or "reject" any changes, the text will either be changed or reverted, and either way will no longer appear as a change.

If you can give me an example where you have Track changes on, Word is recording the change and NVDA is not reporting it, I'd be interested to investigate.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:35 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello again Quinten,

 

It seems that the hot key for turning on/off tracking changes in Word is not control-shift-R but rather control-shift-e. I had to get sighted help to find this out. It looks like I am going to have to get significant sighted help to complete this project as NVDA is not always reliable about reading whether or not things have been deleted or changed.

 

Janet

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: January 12, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

 

Hello Quinten,

 

Thank you for answering my question. The information you provided should be enough to get me started. If I end up using this feature more often than just for this assignment, ,I will definitely consider purchasing the training module you linked to below.

 

Best,

 

Janet

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: January 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

 

Hi Janet,

 

Press control+shift+r to turn track changes on or off.  While on, any change you make to the document is recorded and can be approved or rejected later.

 

With NVDA in browse mode (NVDA+spacebar) you can jump between tracked changes as annotations (a or shift+a).  You can then use the context menu to accept or reject individual changes.

 

For more detail on using track changes, You might be interested in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, which has several topics with step by step instructions on turning the feature on and off, navigating between changes and accepting and rejecting changes: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:11 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am doing a course assignment which involves editing documents produced by speech recognition software. I am to use tracking changes in Word to show changes I have made. Would someone out there be able to talk me through how to use tracking changes in Word with the latest stable version of NVDA and Windows ten?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: What is the best password manager to use with NVDA

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

Hi all.
I use Last Pass. With NVDA is confortable, and well, if you can the passwork manager also in other devices, in Android in my case is also accessible. I can a good experience with the extension for the browsers in Windows and the website.
Regards.

--

Músico (pianista) y ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual en el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musician (pianist) and help to the blind people and with visual disability in use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.


Re: Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hello again Quinten,

 

It seems that the hot key for turning on/off tracking changes in Word is not control-shift-R but rather control-shift-e. I had to get sighted help to find this out. It looks like I am going to have to get significant sighted help to complete this project as NVDA is not always reliable about reading whether or not things have been deleted or changed.

 

Janet

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: January 12, 2021 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

 

Hello Quinten,

 

Thank you for answering my question. The information you provided should be enough to get me started. If I end up using this feature more often than just for this assignment, ,I will definitely consider purchasing the training module you linked to below.

 

Best,

 

Janet

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: January 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using tracking changes in Word and NVDA

 

Hi Janet,

 

Press control+shift+r to turn track changes on or off.  While on, any change you make to the document is recorded and can be approved or rejected later.

 

With NVDA in browse mode (NVDA+spacebar) you can jump between tracked changes as annotations (a or shift+a).  You can then use the context menu to accept or reject individual changes.

 

For more detail on using track changes, You might be interested in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, which has several topics with step by step instructions on turning the feature on and off, navigating between changes and accepting and rejecting changes: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:11 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am doing a course assignment which involves editing documents produced by speech recognition software. I am to use tracking changes in Word to show changes I have made. Would someone out there be able to talk me through how to use tracking changes in Word with the latest stable version of NVDA and Windows ten?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: exporting NVDA user preferences

Gene
 

You can install as many add-ons as you wish. When you run the portable version of NVDA, you have an option to create an installed version. In the tools submenu there is an item to install NVDA. The dialog that comes up has a number of check boxes. One of them says, Copy portable configuration to current user account.

You can save everything by making a portable copy, running the portable copy on the other machine, then creating an installed copy from the portable copy.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Venkatesh Potluri
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 5:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] exporting NVDA user preferences



Hi list,



Would it be possible for me to export my NVDA configurations (voice settings, addons, etc.) and use these on another machine which has NVDA installed? The machines in question are remote VMs and may be reset at frequent instances so I would like to avoid me, and other potential users having to re-configure NVDA. I notice that creating a portable copy of NVDA is an option, but I have a few questions regarding that.

1. <!--[endif]-->Can I install additional addons in the portable copy of NVDA?

2. <!--[endif]-->Can I override the NVDA installed on the machine with my portable copy?



Are there better ways to port my NVDA configuration on my local machine to other machines?



Any suggestions would be of great help.



Best regards,

Venkatesh Potluri

PhD Student, University of Washington

https://venkateshpotluri.me


exporting NVDA user preferences

Venkatesh Potluri
 

Hi list,

 

Would it be possible for me to export my NVDA configurations (voice settings, addons, etc.) and use these on another machine which has NVDA installed? The machines in question are remote VMs and may be reset at frequent instances so I would like to avoid me, and other potential users having to re-configure NVDA. I notice that creating a portable copy of NVDA is an option, but I have a few questions regarding that.

1.       Can I install additional addons in the portable copy of NVDA?

2.       Can I override the NVDA installed on the machine with my portable copy?

 

Are there better ways to port my NVDA configuration on my local machine to other machines?

 

Any suggestions would be of great help.

 

Best regards,

Venkatesh Potluri

PhD Student, University of Washington

https://venkateshpotluri.me

 


Re: Excel 2016: Formulas

Quentin Christensen
 

There was a period where the "Allow editing in cells" setting was very important, but that should have been fixed long ago (and even when it was problematic, it simply wouldn't read the formula, it didn't hang or crash).

Have you got any add-ons installed?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" does it make a difference?

Could you get me a copy of your NVDA log to have a look at please, ideally at debug level?
Please send it attached to an email to info@....  Include a description of what you have done and what isn't working as it should (so I know what it's about in case I don't get to investigate today).

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.


On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 1:50 AM Louis Maher <ljmaher03@...> wrote:
Hello Pele,

Is it possible to use Office 365 for $99 a year?

I do not have any further information.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel 2016: Formulas

Hi Louise

Thank you for suggesting unchecking the "allow editing directly in cells". Unfortunately, it is already unchecked.

Is there anything I can trying changing in NVDA?

Pele













--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: beta 3 and closing programs

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  If Thunder Bird has been running and you press the alt + f4 and this silenece.  Then Press the Alt + t to see what is running and you hear Thunder Bird, then press the application key and arrow down to refresh in windows 10.  Then press the alt + f4 to close it out.  The other answer is yes there can be applications running in the background and they won't be shown on the taskbar.  It is like the old answer of don't assume anything in windows.  It's like they are hidden from the screen readers of the taskbar.

Dave

On 1/13/2021 2:52 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if a program can still have processes running in the background and not show up in the task manager list of running programs.  But if you look in the processes part of the dialog and don't show the process for Thunderbird, as far as I know it isn't running.  I don't know what you are describing in terms of where you use the appliccations key and where you use the refresh command.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] beta 3 and closing programs



Good Afternoon:  It's possible that something is running in the background after closing Thunder Bird by all means.  I have closed Thunder Bird and it doesn't respond as being completely closed. If I press the application key, and go down to refresh, and press enter, then it's closed.  However, until it is refreshed, it just sits there.  It doesn't happen everytime.

Dave




On 1/9/2021 9:03 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I won't say that NVDA is not at play here, because it could be, but ALT+F4 is not an NVDA command, and not tied to NVDA in any way.  It's a Windows command that the program window with focus when it's issued responds to.  If Thunderbird continues to be "hanging about" with something running in the background, probabilities are that it's not NVDA causing this.

I have asked on a tech geek group specifically for professional techs I haunt whether there is a handy PowerShell and/or Command Prompt command or pipe sequence that would allow someone to zero in on whether a process or cluster of processes of a given name are running.  It is my understanding that both Task Manager and Process Monitor are, while not strictly speaking inaccessible, not exactly anywhere near to easy to use with a screen reader.


Re: searching in Thunderbird email app

 

I can, and will, get into this on the Chat Subgroup if you open a new topic there and, as part of that, describe what you want to be seeing after you do a search (in general terms).

I suspect that you're wanting a list of messages just like you'd have in your inbox, but limited to those that match the search.  In which case, you'd need to activate the Show results as list control on the initial results page.  You may also wish to switch the sort by from relevance (default) to date before doing so, if you're interested in date sorted message order.

That's all I'll say here, as none of this is directly related to NVDA but to Thunderbird.
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Re: Some topic in the main group indicate that they're from chat

 

Group Owner mail is not sent other than by using the Owner e-mail address:  nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

I'd need examples, as I can't find any instances in the archive of anything recent.

The following addresses are those most commonly used to interact with the NVDA Main Group:

 

To join:  nvda+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

To post:  nvda@nvda.groups.io

To unsubscribe:  nvda+unsubscribe@nvda.groups.io

To receive a message containing the group description, and a list of these commands:  nvda+help@nvda.groups.io

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web):  nvda+nomail@nvda.groups.io

This can also be used to put a vacation stop on group messages, then use one of the subsequently noted addresses to resume delivery in the format of your choice.

To receive each group message individually: nvda+single@nvda.groups.io

This is the default delivery unless you send a message to one of the addresses that follows.

To receive group messages in an HTML formatted digests:  nvda+fulldigest@nvda.groups.io

To receive group messages in a plain text digest:  nvda+digest@nvda.groups.io

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages:  nvda+summary@nvda,groups.io

To receive only special messages:  nvda+special@nvda.groups.io

To contact the group owner(s):  nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Saving the location of a button on a particular webpage

Tony Malykh
 

Try BrowserNav add-on. One of the features is BrowserMarks - you can specify any text, in particular, the text of the button you're interested in. Then you can jump to that button by pressing J or Shift+J.

HTH

--Tony


On 1/18/2021 12:37 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello everyone,

Is there a way to save  or bookmark the location of a particular button on a webpage, like bookmarking the present now button in google meet?

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