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Re: Anyway of working with gigabyte software?

Chris Smart
 

I have a similar question about Q Installer, the utility that is supposed to
keep my Asus motherboard up to date.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: October 13, 2021 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anyway of working with gigabyte software?

Hi all,

I have a Z590 AORUS ELITE AX Gigabyte motherboard.

I want to keep the bios and other software updated. Gigabyte does have
software for this but it is inaccessible. For one thing, object navigation
is the only way to navigate the program. That would not be such an issue but
when I try to activate an object, nothing happens. By activate an object, I
mean using the nvda key + numeric pad insert key.

I have also tried nvda's ocr capability but I do not get anything useful.

Anyone any ideas?
Pranav
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Joseph Lee
 

Hi Charles,

In this case, I may need a debug log from you (restart NVDA with debug logging enabled, replicate the issue, open the log viewer, copy and paste everything, and send the log fragment as a private email to me) so I can analyze it this weekend.

Cheers,

Jospeh
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

You are correct that is right. Sorry, shouldn't assume. This only happens on my new Dell laptop and nothing else. You know those Dells lol!!!!! By the way, I learn alot from your posts. Thank you so much. 


On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi Charles,

Hmmm, what do you mean by "latest of everything"? Can you elaborate further please?

P.S. I can guess what "latest of everything" means, but I'm intentionally doing it this way because of two reasons: please prove me wrong (I'm thinking NVDA 2021.2, GoldWave 6.57, and GoldWave add-on 21.10), and this is an educational moment on communicating details to someone who might be able to resolve this and/or pass on important info to someone else. I know what I asked above may come across as not quite user-friendly, but believe me when I advise people that details do matter; unless you are the user and/or the developer can make correct guesses, I think just saying "latest of everything" can hinder community investigations. Also apologies for possibly offending someone with this approach.

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: Footnotes numbering in MS Word documents

Quentin Christensen
 

You're most welcome Evi!

All the best

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 6:20 PM <evkolovou@...> wrote:
Dear Quentin,

You are the wind beneath our wings!

Thank you so much!

Best regards,

Evi



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 
Anyway of working with gigabyte software?

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I have a Z590 AORUS ELITE AX Gigabyte motherboard.

I want to keep the bios and other software updated. Gigabyte does have
software for this but it is inaccessible. For one thing, object navigation
is the only way to navigate the program. That would not be such an issue but
when I try to activate an object, nothing happens. By activate an object, I
mean using the nvda key + numeric pad insert key.

I have also tried nvda's ocr capability but I do not get anything useful.

Anyone any ideas?
Pranav
Re: New NVDA Story: Open source opens the way

Quentin Christensen
 

As Jujube noted, it is up on our Facebook page.  It is often tricky to find things in any kind of order on Facebook, so here's a direct link to the post: https://www.facebook.com/NVAccess/posts/4583978535001800

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:20 AM Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:
Hello Janet, If you look up NV Access facebook page, it is already posted there :)



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 
Re: setting up new laptop

Gene
 

Brian's message is probably the cause of the problem.  I thought it was the expired certificate but that isn't likely.  I thought that was what you were describing when you said you couldn't download.


Gene

On 10/13/2021 8:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:25 PM, George McCoy wrote:
Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it.
-
Au contraire!

Someone contacted me privately this afternoon about Edge (SmartScreen, really) blocking the download.  Just changing to Chrome allowed the download.

The standard advice to "try another browser" should always be the first thing to try on a blocked download provided it's not your own antivirus/security suite is not the one blocking it.  SmartScreen is separate from Windows Defender or third party antivirus/security.

Sometimes you have to try tow other browsers.  But if at least two Chromium-based browsers and Firefox won't download something, it probably shouldn't be downloaded.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: setting up new laptop

Gene
 

Disregard my first message.  it is probably wrong.  I evidently made an error when I was experimenting.
 
What I said is correct that browsers generally seem to add an s where needed.  But you probably have to work with the verification message before you can download.
 
Do the following.
When the message comes up, go to the bottom of the screen, control end.  You will be on an advanced button.
Activate it with the space bar.
Then once again go to the bottom of the screen.  You will be on a proceed to the name of the site button.  You will hear  that it is unsafe.  it is safe in this case. 
Activate it with the space bar.
You should now be taken to the direct download, the link you followed is a direct download link.  Download the file as you usually do.
 
As I said in my other message, you are evidently seeing the message because of a root verification certificate that expired recently.
 
GeneI just tried this with two browsers.  I’m not sure about one since I tried working with the verification message and then trying again with the browser.  But in the browser where I did notbhing, no download occurred. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up new laptop
 
The problem isn’t caused by there being no s at the end of http.  Browsers hgenerally seem to automatically add the s if it is needed these days.  The problem appears to be the root certificate that expired recently.  You are evidently getting a message that the site can’t be verified.  Ordinarily, you have to tell the browser to go to the site and the browser may tell you it is unsafe but will go there.  On some sites, it won’t. In this case, you don’t have to do anything.  This is a direct download link and in the browser you are using, try downloading the file as usual.  You may need to do nothing but the usual download procedure, even if you see the unverified warning.  If it doesn’t work, I’ll describe how to work with the unverified warning.  If you just do nothing after following a direct download link, do that.  If you open the download folder and use save as on that page, do that.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up new laptop
 

Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it. Does anyone else have this issue

On 10/13/2021 12:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Direct download link for  Silenzio

 

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: setting up new laptop

Brian Vogel
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:25 PM, George McCoy wrote:
Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it.
-
Au contraire!

Someone contacted me privately this afternoon about Edge (SmartScreen, really) blocking the download.  Just changing to Chrome allowed the download.

The standard advice to "try another browser" should always be the first thing to try on a blocked download provided it's not your own antivirus/security suite is not the one blocking it.  SmartScreen is separate from Windows Defender or third party antivirus/security.

Sometimes you have to try tow other browsers.  But if at least two Chromium-based browsers and Firefox won't download something, it probably shouldn't be downloaded.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Joseph Lee
 

Hi Charles,

Hmmm, what do you mean by "latest of everything"? Can you elaborate further please?

P.S. I can guess what "latest of everything" means, but I'm intentionally doing it this way because of two reasons: please prove me wrong (I'm thinking NVDA 2021.2, GoldWave 6.57, and GoldWave add-on 21.10), and this is an educational moment on communicating details to someone who might be able to resolve this and/or pass on important info to someone else. I know what I asked above may come across as not quite user-friendly, but believe me when I advise people that details do matter; unless you are the user and/or the developer can make correct guesses, I think just saying "latest of everything" can hinder community investigations. Also apologies for possibly offending someone with this approach.

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: setting up new laptop

Gene
 

The problem isn’t caused by there being no s at the end of http.  Browsers hgenerally seem to automatically add the s if it is needed these days.  The problem appears to be the root certificate that expired recently.  You are evidently getting a message that the site can’t be verified.  Ordinarily, you have to tell the browser to go to the site and the browser may tell you it is unsafe but will go there.  On some sites, it won’t. In this case, you don’t have to do anything.  This is a direct download link and in the browser you are using, try downloading the file as usual.  You may need to do nothing but the usual download procedure, even if you see the unverified warning.  If it doesn’t work, I’ll describe how to work with the unverified warning.  If you just do nothing after following a direct download link, do that.  If you open the download folder and use save as on that page, do that.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up new laptop
 

Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it. Does anyone else have this issue

On 10/13/2021 12:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Direct download link for  Silenzio

 

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

George McCoy
 

You can see an example of this in the Pontes media downloader v 3.1 in the help section under shortcut keys.


George

On 10/13/2021 3:01 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, while the information on the page appears like a table for sighted users, it is not constructed as an HTML table so those navigation keys won’t work. I went into chrome Dev tools and manually added some aria role tags to make it behave like a table and it definitely helps, but the way they’ve arranged this thing is really strange so it’s hard to make it perfect. I might write myself a chrome extension to at least make it partially accessible. Thanks again.

On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

If I understand you, you are trying to move to the row below the current cell. If so, add Alt key to Control+down arrow keys and see if that changes things for you.

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: setting up new laptop

George McCoy
 

Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it. Does anyone else have this issue

On 10/13/2021 12:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Direct download link for  Silenzio

 

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

latest of everything


On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

Latest of everything. 


On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)
Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Joseph Lee
 

Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)
Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Richard Wells
 

I should have said that I am using the HQ voices and they are working here.

On 10/13/2021 4:27 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
Hi Josh,
Thank you for specifying the version number of Acapela for NVDA which you experience difficulty with. The version number was not evident in your original thread. I agree with you about importance of testing and using Acapela for NVDA before making a purchasing decision. I trialed the product myself several years ago prior to buying.

I can confirm that the calibri voices Acapela NVDA add-on is not currently compatible with NVDA 2021.2. But, during the trial period you can download and use the HQ (high-quality) Acapela voices. I would suggest downloading/installing HQ Rod for your first voice test, which I presently have installed as my Acapela for NVDA voice. To my knowledge, people trialing the product and/or who have purchased a premium Acapela for NVDA license can use as many high-quality voices as they desire. If you or any one else chooses to buy, I recommend buying the premium license and not the basic one. With a basic license, you can only use Acapela for NVDA calibri voices. Premium purchase allows use of both calibri and HQ voices just like during trial period. Whether one chooses to buy any product or not is of course an individual decision.


Blake
Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

Hi Josh,
Thank you for specifying the version number of Acapela for NVDA which you experience difficulty with. The version number was not evident in your original thread. I agree with you about importance of testing and using Acapela for NVDA before making a purchasing decision. I trialed the product myself several years ago prior to buying.

I can confirm that the calibri voices Acapela NVDA add-on is not currently compatible with NVDA 2021.2. But, during the trial period you can download and use the HQ (high-quality) Acapela voices. I would suggest downloading/installing HQ Rod for your first voice test, which I presently have installed as my Acapela for NVDA voice. To my knowledge, people trialing the product and/or who have purchased a premium Acapela for NVDA license can use as many high-quality voices as they desire. If you or any one else chooses to buy, I recommend buying the premium license and not the basic one. With a basic license, you can only use Acapela for NVDA calibri voices. Premium purchase allows use of both calibri and HQ voices just like during trial period. Whether one chooses to buy any product or not is of course an individual decision.


Blake
Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Richard Wells
 

I have previously purchased Acapela  voices and they are working perfectly with NVDA 2021.2 here.

On 10/13/2021 4:16 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/


2. Follow the instructions, and get to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/get-your-download-here-v1-7/


3. Download the engine. I saved it.


4. Download the addon with all of the calibri voices or whatever they're called. Again, I saved it.


5. Go to where you saved them. Click on the addon for the engine. Tell it to install. Say no when it asks you to restart.


6. Then click on the addon with all of the voices. Again, say yes you want to install it. This time, restart.


7. Hit NVDA-ctrl-s, pick a capela as your synth.


For me, this talks just fine. I don't know that I'd buy them, because I've never been a huge fan of their voices and there's no rate boost that I can see, which means even at a hundred percent, it's slower than the rate I usually read at. But I am absolutely running NVDA 2021.2, I just checked, Windows 10 21H1 with latest updates, and it's working just fine. I didn't even get anything about picking a trial license or whatever, I just did the above steps, and it's working, for how long, I have no idea, not that it matters because I'm going to uninstall it all after I'm done writing this message anyway. I think I did briefly do a trial a few years ago, so maybe it's just picking up on that, although I don't know if I did it on this machine or not. Anyway, working just fine here.


On 10/13/2021 3:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi

 

The acapela voices 1.7 addon is not working with nvda 2021.2. I have 14 days left in the trial. I installed the engine and the Calibri voices. When I choose acapela I get no speech and have to restart NVDA. And when you try to install voices from the addon itself it wants you to download 1.6 addon version which is not compatible with 2021.2. I contacted acapela but got no response. If these voices won’t work I guess I can’t buy them and it says I have 14 days left in my trial so they should be working.

 

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 
Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Chris
 

You have either downloaded the wrong version of the addon or your version of NVDA is incompatible

 

I would go back to the download page of the acapela and download the correct version for your version of NVDA

 

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: 13 October 2021 21:16
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapela 1.7 not working

 

Hi

 

The acapela voices 1.7 addon is not working with nvda 2021.2. I have 14 days left in the trial. I installed the engine and the Calibri voices. When I choose acapela I get no speech and have to restart NVDA. And when you try to install voices from the addon itself it wants you to download 1.6 addon version which is not compatible with 2021.2. I contacted acapela but got no response. If these voices won’t work I guess I can’t buy them and it says I have 14 days left in my trial so they should be working.

 

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 
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