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Re: Silence is golden
Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
Well as a personal preference, I'd like to reduce the length of pauses in some synths, but I think its more down to the way the manufacturer of the synth programmed in the pauses rather than what NVDA's doing with it. I suppose an addon could be written that parses text for double punctuation, up to say 5 of each, then splits the string up that it sends to output. That isn't me however, I am not good at coding. One thing I do wish, however, is that the concatinative synths like Acapela, Vocalizer and the like would offer user control over pauses. The reason being is its one of the things that stops me from using them as my main voice. We've gotten response times down to acceptable levels, its just pauses, I don't want a second in between sentences, or half of one for a comma. That just breaks up the flow too much for me, I like a little bit of pause, but not to that extent.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote: Hi all, I wonder if anyone has any ideas on something NVDA users probably don't need to do very often. I'd like to be able to get a little bit more control over the amount of pause time that is produced by punctuation symbols.
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Re: Silence is golden
Hi, This has to do more with synthesizers than screen readers. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Silence is golden
Hi all, I wonder if anyone has any ideas on something NVDA users probably don't need to do very often. I'd like to be able to get a little bit more control over the amount of pause time that is produced by punctuation symbols.
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Silence is golden
Hi all, I wonder if anyone has any ideas on something NVDA users probably don't need to do very often. I'd like to be able to get a little bit more control over the amount of pause time that is produced by punctuation symbols.
I know a commas, semicolons and periods / full stops pause a program-controlled amount, but if I want to pause for the time of two adjacent full stops, could that be achieved in any way? When I try the following test sentences: This is a test sentence. It uses one full stop. This is another test sentence. . It uses two full stops. Sentence 1 gives me the default pause for a full stop, but sentence two produces the same amount of pause and, annoyingly, says “This is another test sentence. dot It uses two full stops.” I was hoping I might be able to add a dictionary entry for '. .' and variants thereof, but with no success. My normal NVDA setting is for punctuation/symbol level of some, and turning it to none stops the 'dot' being announced for the second full stop, but the result is then exactly the same for both test sentences. I won't go into more detail here about why I want to do this, but please do ask if it has any significance :) Very grateful for any suggestions, Giles Abergavenny (UK) web: http://gilesturnbullpoet.com
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Re: soft voice tts
Devin Prater
No, sorry. It is a very old TTS engine, and is no longer updated, like Eloquence.
Devin Prater
From: 高生旺
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] soft voice tts
Is it going to support Chinese?
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017, anthony borg wrote:
> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 17:15:42 > From: anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> > Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] soft voice tts > > NO ROSEMARIE, I HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED IT YET. > > I HOPE IT ISN'T VERY COMPLICATED BECAUSE I'M JUST A BEGINNER. > > BEST REGARDS > > ANTHONY > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria > Sent: 13 June 2017 01:00 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] soft voice tts > > Hi, Anthony, > > > Did you download the soft voice synth? If you didn't, I'll look for the message that has the link. > > > Rosemarie > > > > > On 6/12/2017 12:56 PM, anthony borg wrote: >> Hi rosemarie >> >> Can you please explain to me from where I can download the add-on? >> >> Is it a package of voices? >> >> Thanking you in advance >> >> Anthony >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria >> Sent: 12 June 2017 19:29 >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] soft voice tts >> >> Hi, Josh, >> >> >> I just installed the add-on and so-far I like it. I'm using the English male voice. >> >> >> Rosemarie >> >> >> >> >> On 6/12/2017 1:13 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: >>> ok so now that we can use soft voice, here is the link for the addon. >>> it has several interesting voices including ones that sing your text >>> and so on. let me know how you like it. >>> >>> >>> http://grossgang.com/tts/synthesizers%20for%20nvda/softvoice.nvda-addon >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
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Re: NVDA PROBLEM
Andre Fisher
Which key are you using as the NVDA key?
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On 6/13/17, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:
HI DAVID
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Re: strange problem
Gene
Also, the default for NVDA is to save settings on
exit. If you are going to experiment, this is a bad setting. It
means that you might save settings you have no intention of making
permanent. This setting should be disabled. Open the NVDA menu, down
arrow to preferences and press enter. You are in a dialog. Tab to
save settings on exit. It's a check box. Uncheck it by pressing the
space bar. Tab to and activate the ok button.
Now save the setting to make it permanent.
Issue the command control NVDA key c and you should hear configuration
saved. I never have NVDA save anything automatically. I want to
control exactly when things are saved. In my strong opinion, save settings
on exit should not be enabled by default. It does a real disservice to new
users who may want to try different settings with no intention of making them
permanent. A perfect example of too much automation.
Do you know how to find information in the
manual? It's one long web page. Here is what the manual says in it's
first sentence or two about input composition settings:
The Input Composition Settings dialog can be found
under the Preferences menu. This dialog allows you to control how NVDA reports
the input of Asian characters, such as with IME or Text Service
Clearly, something you might be curious to know
what it is, but nothing it would make any sense to play with other than look at
unless you use Asian characters.
Gene
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I’m so sorry for the trouble I might have given you, but just to let you know that finally I managed to find out what was the problem. Last time I went in to the menu, I entert the in put section and I pressed the space bar on the first item without knowing what was going to happen, That’s why I couldn’t access the synthesizers. Thanks once again for your help, and I still keep your address. Kindest regards Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 13:56 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sure. rui.fontes@... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 12:51 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hi rui Is it possible if i contact you out of list to be able to explain to you much better please? Thanks in advance Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 12:09 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sorry, but can you turn CapsLock off? If you need, and your system is in english, we can try to see what's happening in a remote session... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 10:53 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP RUI, BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN WHEN I GO TO SYNTHESIZERS THROUGH THE MENU, TO CHANGE IT, THE ONLY SYNTHESIZER I GOT THERE NOW IS THE MICROSOFFT PLATFORM, WHILE I SHOULD HAVE THE ELOQUENCE INSTALLED AS WELL. MOST PROBABLY WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT I MIGHT HAVE PRESSED SOMETHING WRONG, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I PRESS NVDA PLUS CONTROL V, NOTTHING HAPPEN. I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, BEST REGARDS ANTHONY -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 00:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem You have a place to change synths and other to change voices within the synth... NVDA+Control+S to select the synth and NVDA+Control+V to select and configure the voice... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 12 de junho de 2017 21:35 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hello all I tried to access the synthizer area to change the voice, but only the microsofft platform is showing me. Also evrytime I tried the command control key plus NVDA plus v, nothing happens. Can somebody please explain to me what I should to correct this problem? Thanks in advance Anthony From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: 12 June 2017 09:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: strange problem Hi, I have had those experiences many times! LOL! I just mark it up as a beautiful freeky thing. I could tell you things like that all day LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Yeah, no? kidding! I'm at a loss. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hi, Chris, That's wild! I don't know what made the insert key work correctly but I'm glad it's fine now. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hello guys. You're not going to believe this one! I woke up this morning, started up nvda, and all of a sudden, my insert key on the numpad started working correctly. Would you believe it. I wonder what in the world caused it to all of a sudden start working? Does anyone happen to know? This is just getting more weird by the minute! Thanks. Chris.
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Re: strange problem
Gene
Do you understand that all commands such as control
NVDA key s and Control NVDA key v are used without going into the menus?
You can get to the same settings in the menus but such commands are shortcuts
that bypass the menus. You can use them anywhere. You aren't in NVDA
when you use them. You could be on the desktop, in a program, almost
anywhere.
In the menus, you would get to such settings by
opening the menus, then down arrowing to preferences and pressing enter.
Then down arrow to either synthesizer and press enter or voice settings and
press enter. It sounds as though you would save yourself a lot of time and
trouble by working with a good NVDA tutorial such as the one I sent a link to a
number of days ago.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hi rosemarie
I’m so sorry for the trouble I might have given you, but just to let you know that finally I managed to find out what was the problem.
Last time I went in to the menu, I entert the in put section and I pressed the space bar on the first item without knowing what was going to happen,
That’s why I couldn’t access the synthesizers.
Thanks once again for your help.
Kindest regards
Anthony
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Hello, Anthony,
NVDA control S is what you hit to go to a different synthesizer. NVDA control V is what you hit forchanging the voice.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
On 6/12/2017 1:35 PM, anthony borg wrote:
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New to the List:
Lawrence Stoler
Hi Gene,
I forgot to mention that I am using Mozilla Thunderbird so the tutorial on your website should be helpful. Thank you. Sincerely, Lawrence Stoler
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Re: strange problem
anthony borg
Hi rui
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I’m so sorry for the trouble I might have given you, but just to let you know that finally I managed to find out what was the problem. Last time I went in to the menu, I entert the in put section and I pressed the space bar on the first item without knowing what was going to happen, That’s why I couldn’t access the synthesizers. Thanks once again for your help, and I still keep your address. Kindest regards Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 13:56 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sure. rui.fontes@... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 12:51 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hi rui Is it possible if i contact you out of list to be able to explain to you much better please? Thanks in advance Anthony -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 12:09 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sorry, but can you turn CapsLock off? If you need, and your system is in english, we can try to see what's happening in a remote session... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 10:53 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP RUI, BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN WHEN I GO TO SYNTHESIZERS THROUGH THE MENU, TO CHANGE IT, THE ONLY SYNTHESIZER I GOT THERE NOW IS THE MICROSOFFT PLATFORM, WHILE I SHOULD HAVE THE ELOQUENCE INSTALLED AS WELL. MOST PROBABLY WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT I MIGHT HAVE PRESSED SOMETHING WRONG, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I PRESS NVDA PLUS CONTROL V, NOTTHING HAPPEN. I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, BEST REGARDS ANTHONY -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 00:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem You have a place to change synths and other to change voices within the synth... NVDA+Control+S to select the synth and NVDA+Control+V to select and configure the voice... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 12 de junho de 2017 21:35 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hello all I tried to access the synthizer area to change the voice, but only the microsofft platform is showing me. Also evrytime I tried the command control key plus NVDA plus v, nothing happens. Can somebody please explain to me what I should to correct this problem? Thanks in advance Anthony From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: 12 June 2017 09:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: strange problem Hi, I have had those experiences many times! LOL! I just mark it up as a beautiful freeky thing. I could tell you things like that all day LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Yeah, no? kidding! I'm at a loss. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hi, Chris, That's wild! I don't know what made the insert key work correctly but I'm glad it's fine now. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hello guys. You're not going to believe this one! I woke up this morning, started up nvda, and all of a sudden, my insert key on the numpad started working correctly. Would you believe it. I wonder what in the world caused it to all of a sudden start working? Does anyone happen to know? This is just getting more weird by the minute! Thanks. Chris.
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Re: strange problem
anthony borg
Hi rosemarie
I’m so sorry for the trouble I might have given you, but just to let you know that finally I managed to find out what was the problem.
Last time I went in to the menu, I entert the in put section and I pressed the space bar on the first item without knowing what was going to happen,
That’s why I couldn’t access the synthesizers.
Thanks once again for your help.
Kindest regards
Anthony
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 13 June 2017 00:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem
Hello, Anthony,
NVDA control S is what you hit to go to a different synthesizer. NVDA control V is what you hit forchanging the voice.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
On 6/12/2017 1:35 PM, anthony borg wrote:
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Re: New to the List:
Lawrence Stoler
Thank you Gene. I will check your site out and go from there.
Lawrence Stoler
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Re: strange problem
Rui Fontes
Sure.
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rui.fontes@... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 12:51 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hi rui Is it possible if i contact you out of list to be able to explain to you much better please? Thanks in advance Anthony
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 12:09 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sorry, but can you turn CapsLock off? If you need, and your system is in english, we can try to see what's happening in a remote session... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 10:53 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP RUI, BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN WHEN I GO TO SYNTHESIZERS THROUGH THE MENU, TO CHANGE IT, THE ONLY SYNTHESIZER I GOT THERE NOW IS THE MICROSOFFT PLATFORM, WHILE I SHOULD HAVE THE ELOQUENCE INSTALLED AS WELL. MOST PROBABLY WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT I MIGHT HAVE PRESSED SOMETHING WRONG, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I PRESS NVDA PLUS CONTROL V, NOTTHING HAPPEN. I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, BEST REGARDS ANTHONY -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 00:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem You have a place to change synths and other to change voices within the synth... NVDA+Control+S to select the synth and NVDA+Control+V to select and configure the voice... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 12 de junho de 2017 21:35 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hello all I tried to access the synthizer area to change the voice, but only the microsofft platform is showing me. Also evrytime I tried the command control key plus NVDA plus v, nothing happens. Can somebody please explain to me what I should to correct this problem? Thanks in advance Anthony From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: 12 June 2017 09:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: strange problem Hi, I have had those experiences many times! LOL! I just mark it up as a beautiful freeky thing. I could tell you things like that all day LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Yeah, no? kidding! I'm at a loss. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hi, Chris, That's wild! I don't know what made the insert key work correctly but I'm glad it's fine now. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hello guys. You're not going to believe this one! I woke up this morning, started up nvda, and all of a sudden, my insert key on the numpad started working correctly. Would you believe it. I wonder what in the world caused it to all of a sudden start working? Does anyone happen to know? This is just getting more weird by the minute! Thanks. Chris.
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Re: strange problem
anthony borg
Hi rui
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Is it possible if i contact you out of list to be able to explain to you much better please? Thanks in advance Anthony
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 12:09 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem Sorry, but can you turn CapsLock off? If you need, and your system is in english, we can try to see what's happening in a remote session... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 13 de junho de 2017 10:53 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP RUI, BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN WHEN I GO TO SYNTHESIZERS THROUGH THE MENU, TO CHANGE IT, THE ONLY SYNTHESIZER I GOT THERE NOW IS THE MICROSOFFT PLATFORM, WHILE I SHOULD HAVE THE ELOQUENCE INSTALLED AS WELL. MOST PROBABLY WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS THAT I MIGHT HAVE PRESSED SOMETHING WRONG, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I PRESS NVDA PLUS CONTROL V, NOTTHING HAPPEN. I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, BEST REGARDS ANTHONY -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: 13 June 2017 00:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem You have a place to change synths and other to change voices within the synth... NVDA+Control+S to select the synth and NVDA+Control+V to select and configure the voice... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: anthony borg Data: 12 de junho de 2017 21:35 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] strange problem Hello all I tried to access the synthizer area to change the voice, but only the microsofft platform is showing me. Also evrytime I tried the command control key plus NVDA plus v, nothing happens. Can somebody please explain to me what I should to correct this problem? Thanks in advance Anthony From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: 12 June 2017 09:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: strange problem Hi, I have had those experiences many times! LOL! I just mark it up as a beautiful freeky thing. I could tell you things like that all day LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Yeah, no? kidding! I'm at a loss. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hi, Chris, That's wild! I don't know what made the insert key work correctly but I'm glad it's fine now. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Go figure! You guys are not going to believe this one! Hello guys. You're not going to believe this one! I woke up this morning, started up nvda, and all of a sudden, my insert key on the numpad started working correctly. Would you believe it. I wonder what in the world caused it to all of a sudden start working? Does anyone happen to know? This is just getting more weird by the minute! Thanks. Chris.
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Re: nvda choaks up arrowing down
Gene
There is no reason to believe at this time, that
any of the suggestions in the message quoted below apply. Many people have
reported such problems. There appears to be something in NVDA that needs
fixing and it may have been fixed in the version that people tried and discussed
perhaps four or five days ago. I don't remember what the term is for that
version. it is a trial version to see if issues were fixed. Before
worrying about processors or fans or all the other possibilities, try the trial
version. Also, if another screen-reader doesn't have these problems, that,
too, is evidence that the problem is an NVDA problem.
Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda choaks up arrowing down I'd also set scheduals of security software to times when you are not using the system or turn them off and just scan every so often. I'd also check startup programs and use something like ccleaner to handle those. You could have an overheating processer or stuck fan. In a desktop its easy enough to clear out the cpu, regrease the syncs, replace a fan or psu and away you go. In a laptop while at home a coolent stand under the unit and external keyboard do help some. For your desktop especailly if it gets hot, putting a small fan by the case and letting it wrip is another solution, my friend who has his computers in an atic room uses the fan to keep himself and his machines cool, both get equally hot in there. Failing that you could have a bad keyboard or something ran out of power. I have had it where I will be typing on the board well wireless anyway and suddenly the system will not respond. There have been times where I have looked and realised I have no power cells for the units. On 13/06/2017 8:20 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote: > That sounds like the processor is getting maxed out or something has > to wait for something else to finish first. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" > <joshknnd1982@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 8:55 PM > Subject: [nvda] nvda choaks up arrowing down > > >> about the NVDA freezing when arrowing? I opened a new ticket and >> submitted a detailed debug log to the developers. the log keeps >> saying debug warning trying to recover from freeze and numbers and >> stuff. >> >> >> -- >> sent with mozilla thunderbird email client >> >> >> >> > > > > >
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Re: NVDA keeps on saying unknown yet speaks in other places
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
hi brian On 13/06/2017 8:08 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
There used to be a Microsoft fixit for this in xp and 7. seems odd if its in 10. Would be interesting to know if the machine was always used with a screenreader and originally was 7. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Google Pinyin input and NVDA
Milos Przic
Hi all,
My question can be a little tricky, but I hope
there is someone on the list who uses the Google's pinyin input on their
PCs.
I am a beginner studying chinese and am still not
able to understand all the options in the Pinyin input settings, but with
somebody's help, if I change these, I might succeed. Of course, in order not to
clutter up the list if there are not many interested, you can also contact me
privately.
When I am typing chinese characters using the
Google pinyin input, I don't get the character description automatically. What I
do is, type a character, then find it with the arrow keys and with the
insert+numpad 2 twice read its description. It is a very slow way of typing, and
NVDA doesn't read the candidates' descriptions automatically although all the
settings in the input composition settings are checked. I am using Windows 10
and vocalizer Tian-Tian as the voice for reading Chinese. So do I have to check
something in the input settings in the Google pinyin itself also? What should I
do?
Thanks to everybody in advance, and best
regards!
Miloš
Pržic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs
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Re: can't move some messages to my inbox in thunderbird
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
hi brian
I reported the maths html one where when you uninstalled it it buggered up nvda, but when it was re installed it fixed it up and nvda worked again.
Gene nz
On 13/06/2017 3:30 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: New to the List:
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
hi Lawrence
you mentioned mozilla fire fox that is the browser but what are you using for your email?
if it is mozilla thunderbird i have put together a tutorial both written and audio. If you are interested it can be found on my website called Accessibilitycentral.net which can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.netThere is a page off that called accessible email client mozilla thunderbird which should help you.
Welcome back to the list.
Gene nz
On 13/06/2017 9:18 PM, Lawrence Stoler wrote:
Dear NVDA List, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: nvda choaks up arrowing down
Well I'd check startup programs.
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I'd also set scheduals of security software to times when you are not using the system or turn them off and just scan every so often. I'd also check startup programs and use something like ccleaner to handle those. You could have an overheating processer or stuck fan. In a desktop its easy enough to clear out the cpu, regrease the syncs, replace a fan or psu and away you go. In a laptop while at home a coolent stand under the unit and external keyboard do help some. For your desktop especailly if it gets hot, putting a small fan by the case and letting it wrip is another solution, my friend who has his computers in an atic room uses the fan to keep himself and his machines cool, both get equally hot in there. Failing that you could have a bad keyboard or something ran out of power. I have had it where I will be typing on the board well wireless anyway and suddenly the system will not respond. There have been times where I have looked and realised I have no power cells for the units.
On 13/06/2017 8:20 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
That sounds like the processor is getting maxed out or something has to wait for something else to finish first.
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Re: NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down
Well one strength of nvda is also its weakness.
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Nvda focuses on using internal os libraries and standards to function. There are no third party dlls, or drivers or intercepts or any number of crappy middlemen and thats why nvda is good. At the same time if any of those libraries have bugs or other things do not work with them or they fail, nvda becomes useless. If jaws and other comercial products have anything to go for them, their major use of these layers protect them from a lot of issues with broken things. And for the most part this works. However performance is lower or can be and you may have to enter special modes to get things to work right. In nvda's case, most of what it uses is allready there. But if it isn't there and it doesn't have it in itself or a module then there can be trouble. One thing I can say though is that unless it really can't make sence of something it won't crash, and if it can't it probably just won't do whatever you want and go beep can't do this. I have found that your average layered screen reader can do a little more than nvda but give it something to hard for it, and it will try to do it anyway, even though it may not b be able to handle it. It will then crash, and depending on several factors either take itself, its settings or bits of your system with it. I have had some access software that did this. The system would crash because of something I couldn't do well it couldn't do, and it would go down, and take bits of windows with it. Windows wouldn't start and I would have to reformat to make windows start. I remember an old supernova sr which did this after testing some maps. Some stuff wouldn't work bits of things kept going, the system didn't start or run right. At first I thought the system had gone nuts but after reformatting the system about 10 times I found a pattern. I eventually tracked down the map and reported it. The issue was fixed but that was the end of my testing. And the intercepts before the direct, chain, mirror drivers and later on uia intercepts, well they were unstable. There were hacks to load 2 readers and that was fun, uninstall them wrong or run them both together and you lost the system.
On 13/06/2017 8:19 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
They seem to fix one thing in Chrome and break others. I suspect when they test they do not actually use nvda.
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