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problem with the group site, can't seem to see reply to sender on all messages

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Well, this is kind of annoying. As Brian has asked that we take the
discussion of browse dialogs off this list, I was going to reply to
Patrick privately asking for steps on how he turns grouping off in
browse dialogs, as I see no way to do it, but I couldn't find the
reply to sender link on his message. Looking over some of the other
messages, I didn't see it on all messages either. It was only on
certain messages. I have two requests:
1. Could Brian or the group owner look into this? I thought the reply
to sender link was supposed to be at the bottom of every email, but it
appears it isn't.
2. Could Patrick or anyone else who has successfully turned off
grouping in browse dialogs write me privately with the steps on how to
do this? I've been able to turn it off in main file explorer, though
it somehow got turned on again today and I had to Google how to turn
it off again, but it still won't turn off in the browse dialogs. Also
FYI, this isn't a new problem for me, I've actually been putting up
with it for about 15 months, just now getting around to fixing it.
Thanks,
Bob


Re: Purchasing vocalizer voices

Pauline Smith
 

I also bought the Code Factory voices.  I had never heard of the other company until after I purchased the Code Factory ones.  Now I'm trying to figure out how to update them.

Good luck in you voices purchase.

Pauline
 

On 2/19/2021 10:33 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

I can only comment on the Vocalizer voices from Code Factory as those are the ones I went with. I did this due to the fact that, as you said, you also receive Eloquence along with the package so you get a lot more bang for your buck, so to speak. I don’t think that the actual compact versions are included with Code Factory’s package but this does not bother me.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 6:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Purchasing vocalizer voices

 

Hi listers:

 

I see there are at least 2 different companies selling the Vocalizer voices for NVDA, and I wonder if there is any difference between the options out there.  For example, there are voices from Tiflotecnia, or CodeFactory.  They do the same thing, but, the actual binaries are totally different.  Also, the CodeFactory option seems to also include eloquence.

 

Are there advantages in getting CodeFactory voices, vs. those from Tiflotecnia?

 

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

       



Re: Purchasing vocalizer voices

David Goldfield
 

I can only comment on the Vocalizer voices from Code Factory as those are the ones I went with. I did this due to the fact that, as you said, you also receive Eloquence along with the package so you get a lot more bang for your buck, so to speak. I don’t think that the actual compact versions are included with Code Factory’s package but this does not bother me.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 6:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Purchasing vocalizer voices

 

Hi listers:

 

I see there are at least 2 different companies selling the Vocalizer voices for NVDA, and I wonder if there is any difference between the options out there.  For example, there are voices from Tiflotecnia, or CodeFactory.  They do the same thing, but, the actual binaries are totally different.  Also, the CodeFactory option seems to also include eloquence.

 

Are there advantages in getting CodeFactory voices, vs. those from Tiflotecnia?

 

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

       


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

And, by the way, this topic ceased to be about NVDA many, many posts ago.  And my last one had nothing to do with NVDA.  Virtually everything discussed is about Windows and only Windows.

Thus, I am asking that further conversation, if wanted about this topic be moved either to the Chat Subgroup, or the Windows 10 for Screen Reader User's Group:
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:46 PM, Patrick Le Baudour wrote:
I've had the problem several times, I just never use grouping in explorer, but after several windows updates the download folder got brouped by date both in explorer and browse dialogs, so i had to reset it to none every time.
-
No one, least of all me, has claimed that Microsoft did not introduce the grouping by date in Downloads as part of a cumulative update (if memory serves).  It absolutely did, and many have posted the easy, and specific instructions for undoing that in this very venue.

It does not explain, in any way, why this would show up in a browse dialog when the folder being browsed is not set with grouping on.

I'm not attempting to claim that it's not happening, either, but it is absolutely an abberation if it is.  The longer this topic has gone on, the more I believe that the following should be tried, in order.  If SFC/DISM fixes it, then stop.

Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

I've had the problem several times, I just never use grouping in explorer, but after several windows updates the download folder got brouped by date both in explorer and browse dialogs, so i had to reset it to none every time.
Seems the update from 1909 to 20h2 didn't do it, though, or i'm so used to it i corrected and forgot already.
-- Patrick

Le 19/02/2021 à 20:28, Brian Vogel a écrit :
             That being said, unless you intentionally changed something at some point, no browse dialog should open a folder with a view other than what it's set to under Windows 10.  Double check that you do indeed have Group by turned off, and that the primary sort on the Downloads folder is by Name.


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Where in context menu is this? The logical place would be in
properties, but I see nothing in there related to grouping.

On 2/19/21, Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

Actually, Brian, I think you are wrong. The views set in the "Browse"
dialogs seam to be independent from the ones set in Windows Explorer
windows, strange as it may be as a behavior.

I went in both my personal "Downloads" folder (the one in my user's personal
folder) and the one in "This PC" and disabled the grouping by date and set
the sorting to be by name instead of by day (it was set so by me a long time
ago for the folder in "This PC", but it was not for the one in my personal
folder). Now it is set to no grouping and sorting by name for both places,
but when I invoked a "Browse" dialog from a program (I tried in Audacity,
Balabolka and Notepad++) and navigated to the "Downloads" folder, the view
in both "Downloads" folders was set to grouping and sorting by date.

To disable the grouping and sorting by date in both "Downloads" folders for
the "Browse" dialogs, the user has to invoke such a dialog from a program,
navigate to the two folders, invoke the context menu for the folder (with
nothing selected) and do it from there as it is done for the standard
Windows Explorer windows. The setting is saved and applied for each "Browse"
dialog, no matter from which program is invoked.

Hope this helps.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 19.2.2021 г. в 21:28, Brian Vogel написа:

Bob,

By the way, those are called "browse dialogs." You use 'em in
any program when you're trying to either open a file, or save it (or save
it as, the last two depend on whether it's ever been saved and whether
you're changing the name).

That being said, unless you intentionally changed something
at some point, no browse dialog should open a folder with a view other
than what it's set to under Windows 10. Double check that you do indeed
have Group by turned off, and that the primary sort on the Downloads
folder is by Name.

I have just gone through every button on the Browse Dialog
used for opening a file, including those you access once you land on the
Organize button and right arrowing from there, and I can find absolutely
nothing that allows you to turn on grouping (or remove it) in the Browse
Dialog.
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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

That’s fine, Brian, thanks for looking after it!

 

All the best,

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 9:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making donation

 

Cearbhall,

            Just letting you know that I'm going to merge your question in with the other topic (Questions Regarding the Donation Form on NVAccess.org) about the donation page that's already running from today.  These come up again and again, most often when new releases come out, and I try to keep "a [single] donations page topic" per release cycle where I can.

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Purchasing vocalizer voices

Joseph Norton
 

Hi listers:

 

I see there are at least 2 different companies selling the Vocalizer voices for NVDA, and I wonder if there is any difference between the options out there.  For example, there are voices from Tiflotecnia, or CodeFactory.  They do the same thing, but, the actual binaries are totally different.  Also, the CodeFactory option seems to also include eloquence.

 

Are there advantages in getting CodeFactory voices, vs. those from Tiflotecnia?

 

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

       


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually I don't think it is called a browse dialogue.
-
And, as you've now been told twice, they are.  The reason you're browsing is irrelevant as far as the overarching term, browse dialog goes.  There's nothing wrong with saying Open Dialog, Save Dialog, or Save As dialog (among a number of potential others), as that tells you exactly what's being done.  But all of those are, as a class, browse dialogs, because you're either browsing for a file to open/upload if it already exists, or a folder for a save if the file is new (where you give it a name, too), or a save as if you wish to save something that already exists with a different name in either the same folder or other folder.

I actually most often use the more specific term when I know exactly what's being done, but when talking about the class, it's browse dialog.
 
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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Roger Stewart
 

I just donated for the latest 2004 version. All went well, and I got a message back from PayPal saying I had made the donation. Only thing is I didn't receive any message from NV Access itself. I used to get at least one short thank you message. I don't know if these are automated and triggered by the receipt of the donation or just how they work. Just wondering.  Bottom line is they did receive my donation and the new NVDA is working fine so far.
Roger













On 2/19/2021 3:15 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Cearbhall,

            Just letting you know that I'm going to merge your question in with the other topic (Questions Regarding the Donation Form on NVAccess.org) about the donation page that's already running from today.  These come up again and again, most often when new releases come out, and I try to keep "a [single] donations page topic" per release cycle where I can.

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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Jackie
 

Sarah, I'm saying they're called "browse dialogs" because they all
have the browse button embedded. Said nothing about mini explorers.

On 2/19/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. I was taught to call these dialogues by their name. Open
with, Save as, and the browse one would be the one with the browse
button attached to it. Easier than "mini explorer" that name to me just
is nonsensical. It's easier to call the dialogues by what they are,
associating the actions with said dialogues fo reasier memorization.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:47, Jackie wrote:

The open with dialog is just 1 of a few of these browse dialogs,
Sarah, the most notable other being the save as dialog. It's named
such because one can browse for folders to open from or save to.

On 2/19/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I don't think it is called a browse dialogue. I was told it
is
called the "open with" dialogue. And my iMap didn't download any
messages as of yet, only got these just now.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


I don't think there is a name for such.
-
There is:  a browse dialog.   And I mentioned this multiple posts
ago.  Please read through ALL messages in a topic and in this group
before replying to any one.

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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Interesting. I was taught to call these dialogues by their name. Open with, Save as, and the browse one would be the one with the browse button attached to it. Easier than "mini explorer" that name to me just is nonsensical. It's easier to call the dialogues by what they are, associating the actions with said dialogues fo reasier memorization.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:47, Jackie wrote:

The open with dialog is just 1 of a few of these browse dialogs,
Sarah, the most notable other being the save as dialog. It's named
such because one can browse for folders to open from or save to.

On 2/19/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Actually I don't think it is called a browse dialogue. I was told it is
called the "open with" dialogue. And my iMap didn't download any
messages as of yet, only got these just now.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I don't think there is a name for such.

-
There is:  a browse dialog.   And I mentioned this multiple posts
ago.  Please read through ALL messages in a topic and in this group
before replying to any one.

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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Jackie
 

The open with dialog is just 1 of a few of these browse dialogs,
Sarah, the most notable other being the save as dialog. It's named
such because one can browse for folders to open from or save to.

On 2/19/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I don't think it is called a browse dialogue. I was told it is
called the "open with" dialogue. And my iMap didn't download any
messages as of yet, only got these just now.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


I don't think there is a name for such.
-
There is:  a browse dialog.   And I mentioned this multiple posts
ago.  Please read through ALL messages in a topic and in this group
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I don't think it is called a browse dialogue. I was told it is called the "open with" dialogue. And my iMap didn't download any messages as of yet, only got these just now.

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On 19 Feb 2021, at 13:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't think there is a name for such.
-
There is:  a browse dialog.   And I mentioned this multiple posts ago.  Please read through ALL messages in a topic and in this group before replying to any one.
 
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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

 

Cearbhall,

            Just letting you know that I'm going to merge your question in with the other topic (Questions Regarding the Donation Form on NVAccess.org) about the donation page that's already running from today.  These come up again and again, most often when new releases come out, and I try to keep "a [single] donations page topic" per release cycle where I can.

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Re: Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 08:10 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
When I was on the donation page after selecting the Download option I was using a screen reader which was not NVDA.
-
David, you faithless so-and-so!!  Your punishment awaits, and who knows when it will come?!

[Wait, I think it already did.]
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 04:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't think there is a name for such.
-
There is:  a browse dialog.   And I mentioned this multiple posts ago.  Please read through ALL messages in a topic and in this group before replying to any one.
 
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

That is not a mini explorer, that is a part of file explorer, in fact I don't think there is a name for such.

Tc

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mini explorers with NVDA

When you say press control+O to open a file within say Audacity or Word.

On 2/19/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Serious question: What are you referring to with "mini explorers"?

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Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

I am trying to make a donation. The form requires our country of origin and Ireland is not in the list. Should I take it that Irish colleagues are not expected to make a donation?

 

I cannot proceed by identifying myself as being from some other country!

 

Have you any advice to offer?

 

All the best,

 

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