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Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Keith Reedy <keithreedy@...>

I have found that the brave browser does a good job of blocking adds.
Keith Reedy

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On Jun 26, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Well I don't mind adds but its been known that adds can potentially lead to malware.

I was on a site I used to frequently use.

It displayed adds and I worked round them.

But one day I was asked to install programs and other activex in internet explorer.

I also had sites trying to download trials and other junk onto my system.

Anyway I contacted the owner to find out yes they did use an outsourced add system.

And this is where the danger is.

They had no control of what was on that server or who could use it.

They immediately stopped using that system and switched to another but adds while a potential accessible issue are also potentially dangerous.

I mean I know we need adds to live just like your youtube videos and heck I don't begrudge websites having apps unless you donate or well buy in, but adds can also do dammage to.

On 26/06/2022 9:21 pm, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
However, be aware that this is a bit like a war. The sites rely on advertising to pay for them being free to the public. When you block adverts, often this can be seen by the site who might decide to deny access until you allow adverts again. Its all part of the commercial reality of life, sadly.
What to my mind is needed here is some kind of add on that displays adverts separately from the pages, rather like a split screen system, so the badly formed inaccessible ads we often encounter do not make the actual site almost impossible to navigate for us, but still allows us to see or hear the adverts if we want them.
Brian

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Shaun Everiss

#97004

Well I don't mind adds but its been known that adds can potentially lead to malware.

I was on a site I used to frequently use.

It displayed adds and I worked round them.

But one day I was asked to install programs and other activex in internet explorer.

I also had sites trying to download trials and other junk onto my system.

Anyway I contacted the owner to find out yes they did use an outsourced add system.

And this is where the danger is.

They had no control of what was on that server or who could use it.

They immediately stopped using that system and switched to another but adds while a potential accessible issue are also potentially dangerous.

I mean I know we need adds to live just like your youtube videos and heck I don't begrudge websites having apps unless you donate or well buy in, but adds can also do dammage to.

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On 26/06/2022 9:21 pm, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
However, be aware that this is a bit like a war. The sites rely on advertising to pay for them being free to the public. When you block adverts, often this can be seen by the site who might decide to deny access until you allow adverts again. Its all part of the commercial reality of life, sadly.
What to my mind is needed here is some kind of add on that displays adverts separately from the pages, rather like a split screen system, so the badly formed inaccessible ads we often encounter do not make the actual site almost impossible to navigate for us, but still allows us to see or hear the adverts if we want them.
Brian

Re: CloudVision recognition with NVDA

alexey

#97003

Bluetooth audio add on off or delete.

Re: NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

Gene

#97002

This appears to have nothing to do with NVDA. I tried reading the read only edit field using both JAWS and NVDA using Chrome. In both cases, when in focus mode in NVDA and in forms mode in JAWS, you couldn't move properly through the field using the left and right arrow keys on the site given as an example in the issue on Github, which is linked to in the original message, at the bottom of the quoted messages.
Here is the link:
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_input_readonly

In Firefox, you can move properly. Also, in Chrome, regardless of screen-reader, you can select the text and copy it to the clipboard using control a to select. I didn't try selecting it in Firefox moving with the arrow keys.

Gene

On 6/26/2022 12:23 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> > Hello Jean, > > > > JAWS behaves differently in that regard. It will let you move to a > read only edit box by pressing E then enter to enter focus mode. You > can then use cursor keys to read the read only edit box, you can even > perform a control A and Control C, and it will copy only the contents > of the read only edit box. > > > > I think NVDA should allow this. > > > > All the best > > > Steve > > > > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene > *Sent:* 28 May 2022 15:41 *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: > [nvda] NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome > When In Focus Mode > > > > I'm not sure what you are working with. It appears to be some sort > of source code. When I go to the page, I hear something like welcome > to and then the name of an editor. > > However, it appears to me that NVDA is working as expected. A read > only edit field is read only, you can't write in it. Focus mode > doesn't let you move in a web page unless you are in a field that > allows movement, such as an edit field that allows you to write when > in focus mode. When in structures like combo boxes, you can move as > well or in a list of radio buttons. But the structure on the actual > web page must allow you to move and I would think that by definition, > a read only edit field wouldn't. There is no cursor provided in the > underlying page for a read only field, I would think. > > Gene > > On 5/28/2022 9:27 AM, Luke Robinett wrote: > > Hi Gene. If you check out the issue page I linked to, I provide steps > for how to reproduce the issue. Let me know if that works for you. > Thanks! > > > > On May 27, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> > <mailto:gsasner@...> wrote: > > Can you provide a link to a page with a read only edit field? I > don't recall sites that have them. I probably just read the content > and don't pay attention much if the field says read only. I would > ordinarily read text where I am not writing in browse mode. > > I just tried the Google search field and I had no problem but that > isn't a read only edit field. > > Gene > > On 5/27/2022 6:44 PM, Luke Robinett wrote: > > In Google Chrome running on Windows 10 Home Edition, NVDA only > announces the first character of whatever text is present when in > focus mode and using the arrow keys to navigate by character inside > read-only text boxes. For example, if the text box contains the word > “Hello,” pressing the left or right arrow keys just results in NVDA > saying “H.” > > > > Similar behavior occurs in Microsoft Edge except NVDA says the word > “blank” instead of the first character in the text box. This suggests > it may be a broader issue with Chromium browsers. In Firefox, NVDA > functions normally in read-only text boxes. > > > > I’ve also opened a GitHub ticket for this issue which can be found > here: > > https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13745 > <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13745>

Re: NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

Steve Nutt

#97001

Hello Jean,

JAWS behaves differently in that regard. It will let you move to a read only edit box by pressing E then enter to enter focus mode. You can then use cursor keys to read the read only edit box, you can even perform a control A and Control C, and it will copy only the contents of the read only edit box.

I think NVDA should allow this.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 May 2022 15:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

I'm not sure what you are working with. It appears to be some sort of source code. When I go to the page, I hear something like welcome to and then the name of an editor.

However, it appears to me that NVDA is working as expected. A read only edit field is read only, you can't write in it. Focus mode doesn't let you move in a web page unless you are in a field that allows movement, such as an edit field that allows you to write when in focus mode. When in structures like combo boxes, you can move as well or in a list of radio buttons. But the structure on the actual web page must allow you to move and I would think that by definition, a read only edit field wouldn't. There is no cursor provided in the underlying page for a read only field, I would think.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 9:27 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:

Hi Gene. If you check out the issue page I linked to, I provide steps for how to reproduce the issue. Let me know if that works for you. Thanks!

On May 27, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Can you provide a link to a page with a read only edit field? I don't recall sites that have them. I probably just read the content and don't pay attention much if the field says read only. I would ordinarily read text where I am not writing in browse mode.

I just tried the Google search field and I had no problem but that isn't a read only edit field.

Gene
On 5/27/2022 6:44 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
In Google Chrome running on Windows 10 Home Edition, NVDA only announces the first character of whatever text is present when in focus mode and using the arrow keys to navigate by character inside read-only text boxes. For example, if the text box contains the word “Hello,” pressing the left or right arrow keys just results in NVDA saying “H.”

Similar behavior occurs in Microsoft Edge except NVDA says the word “blank” instead of the first character in the text box. This suggests it may be a broader issue with Chromium browsers. In Firefox, NVDA functions normally in read-only text boxes.

I’ve also opened a GitHub ticket for this issue which can be found here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13745

I searched existing closed and open issues prior to opening a new one and didn’t find a previous report of this issue. Please refer to my bug report for more details and background.

Thanks,
Luke

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Gene

#97000

If so, when you are at a form, searching for the word submit should place you on it and thus at the end of the form. Screen-reader search on web sites is one of the most valuable and underused screen-reader features.

Gene

On 6/26/2022 10:22 AM, Jason Bratcher wrote:

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And some forms don't have a physical Submit button coded in html on the page.
Just the word "Submit" that's marked up to be clickable.
I've seen that on countless forms.
Bad practice in my book.

Jason Bratcher

Re: Getting to the bottom of a form. was Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Brian Vogel

#96999

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 05:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

My problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page and will not let you hit next till you have filled in the required replies.

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That's not a form, plain and simple.

The "single question per page" questionnaire format has been with us for decades, but it's not a form in any meaningful sense of the term.
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Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Jason Bratcher

#96998

And some forms don't have a physical Submit button coded in html on the page.
Just the word "Submit" that's marked up to be clickable.
I've seen that on countless forms.
Bad practice in my book.

Jason Bratcher

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Brian Vogel

#96997

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 05:27 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Which makes me ask why web site builders often disguise the next button by claiming its a button when its really a link instead.

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The rise of the link-button or button-link has mystified me as well. The only reason I can think of to favor this device is because it is a lot more visually distinct than hyperlinks are, and buttons draw visual attention in a very different way than hyperlinks do.

I hate the things because unless I do a hover over with the mouse I can't honestly tell someone whether what they're dealing with is a real button or a hyperlink dressed as a button.
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Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Brian Vogel

#96996

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 07:36 AM, Gene wrote:

I rarely come across a page that doesn't work because an ad blocker is used.

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Same here, virtually never.

I am not doubting those who say they've encountered them, but they are, overall, the rare exception. These days I do get some sites that ask me to turn off my ad blocker, which I don't do. For that very rare website that has refused entry or otherwise misbehaved badly when an adblocker is in use, I find an alternative.

I haven't browsed the web without either an ad blocker add-on/extension or using a browser like Brave or Vivaldi that has ad blocking built-in for many years now.
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Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Nayana Lakhwani

#96995

Hi Quentin,

I have created an issue in GitHub for the above item.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13843

I have added an issue with Actual Behavior, Expected Behavior and System configuration details

I am not able to add labels and priority so they are missing.

Please update it if required.

Thanks

Nayana Lakhwani

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 9:23 AM Nayana Lakhwani <nayanalakhwani@...> wrote:

Thanks Quentin for confirming.

I will create an issue and share link with you.

Thanks
Nayana Lakhwani

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 3:10 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Thanks Nayana,

Yes this seems to be an issue. I can see several issues with mouse tracking on GitHub, however these tend to relate to various elements on pages themselves. I didn't see one for the Browser controls themselves. They do read for me when I navigate with the keyboard, but still not with the mouse. Tested with 2022.1 and 2022.2Beta2 with Chrome Version 102.0.5005.115 (Official Build) (64-bit).

Do feel free to create an issue, and if your version of NVDA or Chrome is different, feel free to note mine as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 12:59 AM Nayana Lakhwani <nayanalakhwani@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

I have verified the NVDA and Chrome browser interaction issue as mentioned in my firstemail on Saturday once again.

NVDA is not reading out chrome browser elements and Ihave followed troubleshooting steps as suggested in
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/81494

I have verified this issue on multiple machines and behaviour is the same.Please suggest if this is an issue and Can i report this in GitHub issue tracker.

Thanks
Nayana Lakhwani

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:46 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 01:43 PM, Gene wrote:

I have no objection to you doing things as you wish but you are making statements and implications that updating Chrome-based browsers as most computer users do is unreliable or in some way a disadvantage to what you do, with which I most emphatically disagree.
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As, I believe I can say with assurance, would virtually any professional computer tech out there. I haven't seen a web browser that's unreliable about self-updating in a very long time and, much like Windows, if you recognize that it's not updating that indicates that something is wrong.

I have no issue with anyone choosing whatever methods they see fit to maintain their machines. But I agree that casting doubt upon what are generally recognized as rock solid self-updating functions is counterproductive and innacurate.

That being said, we need to redirect this conversation to an "as it relates to NVDA and Chrome interacting" topic. I can't help because the issue the OP has reported is, as far as my experience goes, singular.

It never hurts to follow The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues

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Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Giles Turnbull

#96994

One website that I know won't show content if adverts are disabled, is ITV online catch-up. I like to watch The Chase quiz show online, but it won't play the episodes if the browser has an ad blocker active. ITV are even more strict than this, because if you are watching a show and skip to a different webpage (or web browser) while an ITV advert is playing, the advert will pause until the ITV window has focus again! I've never figured out how the advert knows that it doesn't have focus, nor that it has lost focus to a different website, since the advert will continue to play if you switch to a non-internet window such as notepad!

Re: Connection of pc to Signal messenger or WhatsApp

Daniel Sommerfeld

#96993

Hello there.

No it's not that. When entering a signal chet, the NVDA is switching to edit mode. I know that. But when that happens, i can only navigate in an empty edit field. *grins* So i am switching to browse mode but then it reads, what i described in my prior mail.

Regards

Daniel

Am 26.06.2022 um 14:16 schrieb Sim Kah Yong:

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Hi Daniel

Try NVDA + Space to switch to browse mode and see if it helps. Thanks.

On 26/6/2022 7:43 pm, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Brian and all.

I finally managed to connect my signal to my pc. It works just fine.

But i still have a problem with using it under NVDA.

When i am scrolling through the messages, it still reads buttons and lines when the focus is on a message in a chat window. With the other screenreader, i don't havve that problem. You know, the dhark. :-)

Is there a way to turn that off for NVDA so i can read the messages easier?

Regards

Daniel

Am 24.06.2022 um 09:41 schrieb Brian's Mail list account via groups.io:
I seldom have a screen connected to most of my computers, so I feel their attitude is a little restrictive when most other systems seem to be happy using short texts or sending a code to a separate email address.
Not really nvdas fault, just all part of the fuzzy thinking when it comes to accessibility vs security.
Brian

Re: Connection of pc to Signal messenger or WhatsApp

Sim Kah Yong

#96992

Hi Daniel

Try NVDA + Space to switch to browse mode and see if it helps. Thanks.

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On 26/6/2022 7:43 pm, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Brian and all.

I finally managed to connect my signal to my pc. It works just fine.

But i still have a problem with using it under NVDA.

When i am scrolling through the messages, it still reads buttons and lines when the focus is on a message in a chat window. With the other screenreader, i don't havve that problem. You know, the dhark. :-)

Is there a way to turn that off for NVDA so i can read the messages easier?

Regards

Daniel

Am 24.06.2022 um 09:41 schrieb Brian's Mail list account via groups.io:
I seldom have a screen connected to most of my computers, so I feel their attitude is a little restrictive when most other systems seem to be happy using short texts or sending a code to a separate email address.
Not really nvdas fault, just all part of the fuzzy thinking when it comes to accessibility vs security.
Brian

Re: Connection of pc to Signal messenger or WhatsApp

Daniel Sommerfeld

#96991

Hi Brian and all.

I finally managed to connect my signal to my pc. It works just fine.

But i still have a problem with using it under NVDA.

When i am scrolling through the messages, it still reads buttons and lines when the focus is on a message in a chat window. With the other screenreader, i don't havve that problem. You know, the dhark. :-)

Is there a way to turn that off for NVDA so i can read the messages easier?

Regards

Daniel

Am 24.06.2022 um 09:41 schrieb Brian's Mail list account via groups.io:

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I seldom have a screen connected to most of my computers, so I feel their attitude is a little restrictive when most other systems seem to be happy using short texts or sending a code to a separate email address.
Not really nvdas fault, just all part of the fuzzy thinking when it comes to accessibility vs security.
Brian

Re: Getting to the bottom of a form. was Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Gene

#96990

That is true of some forms but a lot of sites have forms like a log in form. My question is why forms are being asked about. I seldom stop at such forms because ways of moving such as move by heading from the top of a page to the beginning of an article, using the letter h, or skipping blocks of links, using the letter n, moves me beyond such forms on web pages. So how are you V.S. moving to get from the tops of pages to where you want to be?

Gene

On 6/26/2022 4:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

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My problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page and will not let you hit next till you have filled in the required replies.
I guess you could to the bottom of the page and then do a shift f and see what the last field on it is.
Brian

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Gene

#96989

That is not my experience and I haven't seen anyone else make such statementss. I rarely come across a page that doesn't work because an ad blocker is used.

Gene

On 6/26/2022 4:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

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However, be aware that this is a bit like a war. The sites rely on advertising to pay for them being free to the public. When you block adverts, often this can be seen by the site who might decide to deny access until you allow adverts again. Its all part of the commercial reality of life, sadly.
What to my mind is needed here is some kind of add on that displays adverts separately from the pages, rather like a split screen system, so the badly formed inaccessible ads we often encounter do not make the actual site almost impossible to navigate for us, but still allows us to see or hear the adverts if we want them.
Brian

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Nimer Jaber

#96988

One way that sometimes works to skip past ads is to press the key to skip past containers, as iframes are examples of containers.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:28 AM Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

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Which makes me ask why web site builders often disguise the next button by
claiming its a button when its really a link instead.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

> While in browse mode, you could try using the letter b to move by
> button. Most forms have a submit button at the end and most fields in
> forms aren't buttons. I haven't tried this, but that may be the fastest
> way to get to the end of forms in general.
>
> Gene
>
> On 6/26/2022 2:40 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
>>
>> I’m not aware of a reliable method to move to the end of a form on a
>> Web page. The Window-Eyes screen reader had this capability and I can
>> see why it would be useful but I don’t believe there’s a way to do it
>> with NVDA. If the capability exists in a third party addon I’m not
>> aware of it but I certainly haven’t looked through all features in all
>> existing addons..
>>
>> David Goldfield,
>>
>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>>
>> JAWS Certified, 2022
>> <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification>
>>
>> NVDA Certified Expert <https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
>>
>> Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and
>> information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.
>>
>> Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io <mailto:tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io>
>>
>> www.DavidGoldfield.org <http://www.DavidGoldfield.org>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
>> *Ravindran V.S.
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:37 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.
>>
>> Thank you David.
>>
>> Let me try your suggestion.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help.
>>
>> Ravi.
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
>> *David Goldfield
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 11:54 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.
>>
>> Ravi,
>>
>> Regarding ads you can do more than skip them. Why not block them with
>> an ad blocker such as
>>
>> UBlock Origin.
>> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fublockorigin.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C34c0706649e847ae6fe408da5746b956%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637918258522617479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GPB073IeKkGc%2BsMDowFIwic%2BUDg6gsXnNcn3sjLZvcM%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> Because ad blockers are not relevant to NVDA itself it would be better
>> to talk about this type of software on the chat subgroup.
>>
>> David Goldfield,
>>
>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>>
>> JAWS Certified, 2022
>> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomscientific.com%2FTraining%2FCertification&data=05%7C01%7C%7C34c0706649e847ae6fe408da5746b956%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637918258522617479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xhs7A7ZMWTAOSngaib%2FjizZAr%2BKqIh7kdPrb2OvdR9Y%3D&reserved=0>
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>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
>> *Ravindran V.S.
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 2:06 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a simple way to skip the advertisements in a webpage?
>>
>> Instead of pressing the down arrow key several times till the end of
>> the advertisement, any simple way to reach the next required text or
>> data?
>>
>> Also, a same way to skip the form fields in a page?
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ravi.
>>
>>
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Re: [Solved] Pacmate 40 display problem

Andre Vosloo

#96987

Hi there

It worked for part of Friday then stopped.  Re-installed the driver as per
manual says unable to load the display.  I am wondering if a windows update
possibly broke it.  The display is coming on, however nvda is not
recognising it.

regards

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Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2022 11:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] pacmate 40 display problem

Did it work? At what point did it stop. Did you update something, did the
display its firmware. How is it connected?
 Brian

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Subject: [nvda] pacmate 40 display problem

Hi all

My display stopped working.  It does show pm40 on the display.  I have the
focus driver installed,, however nvda will not load the   display.
Restarted several times.  Please assist.

regards

Re: Skipping the advertisements in web browsers.

Brian's Mail list account

#96986

Which  makes me ask why web site builders often disguise the next button by claiming its a button when its really a link instead.
Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

While in browse mode, you could try using the letter b to move by
button. Most forms have a submit button at the end and most fields in
forms aren't buttons. I haven't tried this, but that may be the fastest
way to get to the end of forms in general.

Gene

On 6/26/2022 2:40 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

I’m not aware of a reliable method to move to the end of a form on a
Web page. The Window-Eyes screen reader had this capability and I can
see why it would be useful but I don’t believe there’s a way to do it
with NVDA. If the capability exists in a third party addon I’m not
aware of it but I certainly haven’t looked through all features in all
existing addons..

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Ravindran V.S.
*Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:37 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Thank you David.

Let me try your suggestion.

Thank you very much for your help.

Ravi.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*David Goldfield
*Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 11:54 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Ravi,

Regarding ads you can do more than skip them. Why not block them with
an ad blocker such as

UBlock Origin.
<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fublockorigin.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C34c0706649e847ae6fe408da5746b956%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637918258522617479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GPB073IeKkGc%2BsMDowFIwic%2BUDg6gsXnNcn3sjLZvcM%3D&reserved=0>

Because ad blockers are not relevant to NVDA itself it would be better
to talk about this type of software on the chat subgroup.

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Ravindran V.S.
*Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2022 2:06 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Hi,

Is there a simple way to skip the advertisements in a webpage?

Instead of pressing the down arrow key several times till the end of
the advertisement, any simple way to reach the next required text or data?

Also, a same way to skip the form fields in a page?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Ravi.