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"Recognition failed" whenever I try to use NVDA+R

Joshua Tubbs
 

Hi all,
I've been starting to get this as of recently on a cloud PC. Would anybody know if this might be caused by maybe an Nvidia update, or something else? It worked for the longest time.
Would recognition failed message be because the OCR engine isn't able to be ran?
Thanks.


Re: Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

Luke Davis
 

Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

get it. I would say though that there are some instances where copy and paste is allowed but it remains silent. This is because it does not always know that a third party program is able to use the clipboard, I would suspect.
You should report those cases, so Rui can plan for them.

Luke


Re: screen curtain and saving battery

Kareen
 

Thank you all for the replies. The touch pad toggle is working well even without the addon, the method provided here in the group before is working perfectly well.
Luke, thanks for sharing the ways. I tried the screen off bat file but it turns on the screen whenever i touch a button on the device so it is not the needed solution.
Quentin, thank you for providing the info about the screen curtain, i should try and see if it makes any difference on my laptop.
It seems for now that there is no software solution for making the display turn off unless the laptop manufacturer is including a shortcut for that.


Re: my arrow keys stopped working in whatsapp web using firefox or chrome.

Brian's Mail list account
 

On another group I saw some comments about problems in the latest on line version of the interface. It may well be that they themselves have broken it.
I wonder if a different browser might work. I think its not so much arrow keys as the message list that is the problem. I gave up on them some time ago. They kept on changing it and even on the phone strange things happen for no apparent reason. Might be one to take to the chat sub group, unless somebody has a bright idea.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Abedrabbo" <abedrabboibrahim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] my arrow keys stopped working in whatsapp web using firefox or chrome.


Hello folks,

My arrow keys stopped working when trying to navigate messages in
whatsapp web using firefox or chrome. I can

t read a message word by word or letter by letter, or line by line.
Neither left or right arrows, or up and down arrows work inside a
message. Now using NVDA 2022.1 on windows ten latest update. Where is
the nvda setting that can control this? I can't think that I made any
changes to the NVDA settings, unless I made a change inadvertently.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Ibrahim


Re: Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

Brian's Mail list account
 

The new version seems to have fixed the memory warnings that occasionally spuriously affected the older ones, so be sure its the latest on whenever you get it. I would say though that there are some instances where copy and paste is allowed but it remains silent. This is because it does not always know that a third party program is able to use the clipboard, I would suspect. I'm thinking of audio editors and some edit areas in some programs in the main.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?


Thanks Rui. I’ll pass that along.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: June 14, 2022 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?



Clipspeak add-on on oficial repository...



Rui Fontes



Às 20:28 de 14/06/2022, Chris Smart escreveu:

Asking on behalf of someone on Facebook.



is there a way with NVDA to have it announce commands such as when copying, pasting, cutting. I know you can turn on command keys but i dont need to hear every command key that is pressed.



Thanks

Chris


Re: Deezer

Brian's Mail list account
 

You might want to raise this as an issue in the issue tracker. It may well be that an app module is needed, so there are two routes to go. Somebody can write it as an add on or it can be in the body of nvda. Having never used the application you mention, I cannot really comment, but most users tend to use it on their phones, at least the ones I know.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] Deezer


Hi,

maybe this has been a topic here before, but I don't remember reading a
solution:
I have subscribed to the Deezer streaming service. I use the service
mainly via my smartphone.
But now I have also installed the Windows app. I have noticed the
following phenomenon:
When I started the Deezer app, it is practically unusable with NVDA. When
moving with the tab key or the cursor keys, NVDA remains mute.
If I then turn on Narrator, the items are read aloud by both Narrator and
NVDA.

Is this due to a setting in NVDA that the items are not spoken in the
Deezer app? What settings are needed so that Nvda alone also reads the
items aloud?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Yours sincerely

Arno


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my arrow keys stopped working in whatsapp web using firefox or chrome.

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hello folks,

My arrow keys stopped working when trying to navigate messages in whatsapp web using firefox or chrome. I can

t read a message word by word or letter by letter, or line by line. Neither left or right arrows, or up and down arrows work inside a message. Now using NVDA 2022.1 on windows ten latest update. Where is the nvda setting that can control this? I can't think that I made any changes to the NVDA settings, unless I made a change inadvertently.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Ibrahim


Re: Where is the link to NVDA 2021.3?

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Thanks a million. It worked.

Regards,

Ibrahim

On 6/14/2022 5:17 PM, umut korkmaz wrote:

Hi Ibrahim,

You can download it from the link below:

https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2021.3.5

Best Regards,

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Gönderilme: 15 Haziran 2022 Çarşamba 00:04
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: [nvda] Where is the link to NVDA 2021.3?

 

Hello folks,

 

I need the link to NVDA version 2021.3. I cannot find it on the NV-

access website. I can only find version 2022.1 or 2017. What happened to

old versions?

 

Cheers,

 

Ibrahim

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Where is the link to NVDA 2021.3?

umut korkmaz
 

Hi Ibrahim,

You can download it from the link below:

https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2021.3.5

Best Regards,

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Gönderilme: 15 Haziran 2022 Çarşamba 00:04
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: [nvda] Where is the link to NVDA 2021.3?

 

Hello folks,

 

I need the link to NVDA version 2021.3. I cannot find it on the NV-

access website. I can only find version 2022.1 or 2017. What happened to

old versions?

 

Cheers,

 

Ibrahim

 

 

 

 

 

 


Where is the link to NVDA 2021.3?

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hello folks,

I need the link to NVDA version 2021.3. I cannot find it on the NV- access website. I can only find version 2022.1 or 2017. What happened to old versions?

Cheers,

Ibrahim


Re: Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

Chris Smart
 

Thanks Rui. I’ll pass that along.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: June 14, 2022 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

 

Clipspeak add-on on oficial repository...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 20:28 de 14/06/2022, Chris Smart escreveu:

Asking on behalf of someone on Facebook.

 

is there a way with NVDA to have it announce commands such as when copying, pasting, cutting. I know you can turn on command keys but i dont need to hear every command key that is pressed.

 

Thanks

Chris

 


Re: Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

Rui Fontes
 

Clipspeak add-on on oficial repository...


Rui Fontes


Às 20:28 de 14/06/2022, Chris Smart escreveu:

Asking on behalf of someone on Facebook.

 

is there a way with NVDA to have it announce commands such as when copying, pasting, cutting. I know you can turn on command keys but i dont need to hear every command key that is pressed.

 

Thanks

Chris

 


Announce Copy/Paste/Move Operations?

Chris Smart
 

Asking on behalf of someone on Facebook.

 

is there a way with NVDA to have it announce commands such as when copying, pasting, cutting. I know you can turn on command keys but i dont need to hear every command key that is pressed.

 

Thanks

Chris

 


Re: Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Luke!

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I have
no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.

https://www.waveapps.com/accounting

Best,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 7:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Hello

I am looking for some NVDA accessible double entry bookkeeping software. In
other words, a business accounting package.

I currently use Zero, which is a web based accounting service, but its
interface is clunky, and not always as accessible as it could or should be.
I want very much to get away from it.

Fifteen or so years ago I used SQL-Ledger for a while, but it had security
and other issues (it was also web based, but you had to install and
administer it on your own server). I switched briefly to LedgerSMB which was
created as a replacement and to solve the problems of SQL-Ledger, but now
seems defunct.

I think I would prefer something standalone, although if there is a really
good web based system I haven't tried that has a high degree of NVDA
compatibility, I'd be open to it.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Luke


Deezer

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

maybe this has been a topic here before, but I don't remember reading a
solution:
I have subscribed to the Deezer streaming service. I use the service
mainly via my smartphone.
But now I have also installed the Windows app. I have noticed the
following phenomenon:
When I started the Deezer app, it is practically unusable with NVDA. When
moving with the tab key or the cursor keys, NVDA remains mute.
If I then turn on Narrator, the items are read aloud by both Narrator and
NVDA.

Is this due to a setting in NVDA that the items are not spoken in the
Deezer app? What settings are needed so that Nvda alone also reads the
items aloud?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Yours sincerely

Arno


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Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Brian's Mail list account
 

One thing about pop 3 is that at least in Outlook Express you can set up complex rules so email gets auto sorted into folders and you can even stop downloading email on complex rules or delete from server. In my case I tend to only show spam and inbox on the Imap of the same account, that way I simply fish it out of the spam shove it back in inbox and it gets redelivered and sorted in pop3.
However this is varying a bit off of what we were all talking about before.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements


Also, it appears to me on reading your message again that you may not
intend to import mail. In that case, the best thing to do is to set up
your accounts in Thunderbird. But I don't know if the automatic setup
lets you specify a POP3 account. It may set them up as IMAP accounts
without giving you a choice. so you may want to manually do so. But I
see no advantage to using POP3. I still have pop3 accounts because I'm
too lazy to change them and they serve me well but I also see no
advantage to them and I have no objection to using an IMAP account.

Plus there is the question of how the account is set up. If you can
export your accounts to Thunderbird in some way, they probably won't
export as they should for the best long term results. Brian, the
moderator, has said that at some point, application specific passwords
will no longer be used by Google. I don't know if that is true but in
case it is, if you allow Thunderbird to set up your accounts or manually
do so if you have problems, you won't need an application specific password.

Gene

On 6/13/2022 4:30 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
Outlook Express is so archaic that I don't think you will be able to
automatically import anything. Perhaps there are utilities you can
use but I don't know what you mean by ias. Thunderbird has a feature
that automatically sets up accounts and that works well a lot or
perhaps most of the time, I don't know. I've used it with generally
good results. If it doesn't work well, you can always manually change
settings.

I'm curious why you want to switch now. You can continue to use
Outlook Express with an application specific password. But depending
on what you want to import and how important it is to be able to do
so, using an application specific password may save you a lot of work,
or perhaps I should say, it may put it off for a time, perhaps quite
some time.

Gene
On 6/13/2022 4:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Its been an age since I used Tbird. Does it somehow pick up details
of multiple accounts from older clients like Outlook Express? Or
would one have to export the ias and get Tbird to convert them or is
it a manual process? I have many accounts that I'd like to keep
seperate inboxes for and hence make rules for, but I also want to be
able to look at Imap, but only to see the spam folders, since things
these days do hhave a horrible of going there for no obvious reason.
Brian











Re: Please read before suggesting new add-ons or NVDA screen reader features: a contributor's assessment of 2022.1 and add-ons situation, open-source, anxiety, and burnout

Michael Curran
 

Hello Joseph and all,

Firstly, both personally and on behalf of NV Access, I'd like to thank Joseph for his dedication to the NVDA project for so many years. This includes core code contributions, maintaining add-ons from himself and the community, and general community support just to name a few things. His work also goes further than NVDA though. He has also made a positive impact on the accessibility of the Windows Operating System through tireless testing, bug reporting and evangelising to Microsoft. Thank you for playing a part in improving accessibility for blind and vision impaired people Joseph.

However, burnout is definitely a very real and serious thing we must always watch out for. Self-care is very important. We can only help others if we help ourselves. I understand burnout all too well myself, having had to also step back from the project a little over the last year or so.

Joseph, I hope that you can disconnect and find the space you need to recharge, allowing yourself to then continue on in the direction you feel is right.

I don't wish to analyze or pull apart the content of Joseph's long message here on this list, as it covers many different points, many of which may be more suitable for addressing on lists such as nvda-addons or nvda-devel. But I do wish to address just a few things.

NV Access most certainly appreciates feedback on the direction of the project, as NVDA has always been by users for users. However, we do ask that feedback be given thoughtfully, early on, and via the right communication mechanisms.

The best way to communicate feedback to NV access is to send an email to info@..., and one of our staff will get back to you as soon as possible.

Although community members are very vocal on public email lists which is great, It is impossible for NV access to read each and every post, especially in long email threads. We certainly encourage conversation in the community, but any questions or suggestions specifically for NV Access should come to us directly.
 
Please be assured we are listening carefully to the conversations around our current NVDA add-on policies, and look forward to receiving further constructive feedback.

We do acknowledge the real and valid pain points for users when upgrading NVDA and their add-ons become incompatible. We acknowledge the pain for add-on developers having to update their add-ons every year. But however we address this, it must be in a way that ensures NVDA's stability (incompatible add-ons should not break NVDA), and the ability to improve and innovate (NVDA must keep up with Windows and 3rd party updates). There are plenty of good ideas on how we can do this, and I'm sure we will have more to say on this in the very near future.

For add-on developers and those who choose to test alpha snapshots: If you ever think we have broken something, or removed or deprecated an API an add-on depends upon, please let us know as early as possible by sending us an email or filing an issue. Although the changes to roles and states ended up being rolled back, we originally marked these APIs for deprecation more than a year ago, yet we only received direct and constructive feedback once we released 2022.1 beta1. Clearly there was a communication breakdown, and although NV Access reverted that change in the end, we obviously want to find ways to improve the communication mechanisms between NV Access and the addon developer community so we can avoid this in future.

Finally, I would like to thank and acknowledge all the contributors to the NVDA project. Whether it be core code, documentation, testing, issue filing, translating, or financial support, it all goes to ensuring that blind and vision impaired people, no matter their language, location or economic status, can get free quality access to computers. More than 200,000 people rely upon NVDA at home, in education and in the workplace. Thank you for being a part of this effort.

Mick

Executive Director, NV Access Limited


Re: whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@gmail.com>

Sarah k Alawami
 

OH woopsy doodle, my bad. Sorry about that. I don't speak Spanish well so will be of 100 percent 0 help here this time. Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@...>

Hi Sarah,

I have the hotkeys for the Whatsapp Desktop as I am the one providing them previously. The add-on I am inquiring on is different but by the same author, The description is in Spanish and there is no information on the hotkeys. Thanks.

On 12/6/2022 11:36 pm, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I had a set of what's app keys, in word format. Search for it using the list archives as I can't find it, unless that link expired by now. I upload using a service in which links expire after 7 days.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah
Yong
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler
<reaperyotrasyerbas@...>

Hi all, do anyone knows about the above add-on, what does it do, and does it complement the existing add-on "Whatsapp desktop" by the same author?

This is what I can gather from the "help" and I translate it from Spanish in Google as follows:

Plugin that renames unlabeled buttons, adds keyboard shortcuts for main application functions, and focus functions for better interaction with the interface.

It will be very good if someone can provide the hotkeys too. Thanks.













Re: whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@gmail.com>

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi, it can be found in the Spanish add-ons page at

whatsapp | NVDA Add-ons Directory (nvda-addons.org)

On 13/6/2022 12:11 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Where do you find this add-on?
Can you share the link.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@...>

Hi all, do anyone knows about the above add-on, what does it do, and does it complement the existing add-on "Whatsapp desktop" by the same author?

This is what I can gather from the "help" and I translate it from Spanish in Google as follows:

Plugin that renames unlabeled buttons, adds keyboard shortcuts for main application functions, and focus functions for better interaction with the interface.

It will be very good if someone can provide the hotkeys too. Thanks.














how to make nvda detect highlighted cells, columns and rows in google sheets

Ahmad Ismat
 

Hi ,

 

I received a google sheets document that  have some columns and rows as well as cells highlighted  (in color), not sure what color as I do not know the shortcut keyboard command to identify the type of color.

Is there  a way to enable nvda to detect these highlighted  columns, rows and cells ?

 

Thanks  in advance for any feedback.

 

Best Wishes,

Ahmad😊