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Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

George McCoy
 

You can see an example of this in the Pontes media downloader v 3.1 in the help section under shortcut keys.


George

On 10/13/2021 3:01 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, while the information on the page appears like a table for sighted users, it is not constructed as an HTML table so those navigation keys won’t work. I went into chrome Dev tools and manually added some aria role tags to make it behave like a table and it definitely helps, but the way they’ve arranged this thing is really strange so it’s hard to make it perfect. I might write myself a chrome extension to at least make it partially accessible. Thanks again.

On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

If I understand you, you are trying to move to the row below the current cell. If so, add Alt key to Control+down arrow keys and see if that changes things for you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: setting up new laptop

George McCoy
 

Too bad this is not an https link because my chromium based browsers won't allow downloads from it. Does anyone else have this issue

On 10/13/2021 12:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Direct download link for  Silenzio

 

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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

latest of everything


On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)


Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

Latest of everything. 


On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)


Re: Goldwave NVDA question

 

Hi Charles,

Can you tell us:

  • NVDA version you are using
  • GoldWave version you are using
  • The version of GoldWave add-on you have

That way we can figure out what's up.

Cheers,

Joseph (creator of and soon to be former maintainer of GoldWave add-on)


Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Richard Wells
 

I should have said that I am using the HQ voices and they are working here.

On 10/13/2021 4:27 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
Hi Josh,
Thank you for specifying the version number of Acapela for NVDA which you experience difficulty with. The version number was not evident in your original thread. I agree with you about importance of testing and using Acapela for NVDA before making a purchasing decision. I trialed the product myself several years ago prior to buying.

I can confirm that the calibri voices Acapela NVDA add-on is not currently compatible with NVDA 2021.2. But, during the trial period you can download and use the HQ (high-quality) Acapela voices. I would suggest downloading/installing HQ Rod for your first voice test, which I presently have installed as my Acapela for NVDA voice. To my knowledge, people trialing the product and/or who have purchased a premium Acapela for NVDA license can use as many high-quality voices as they desire. If you or any one else chooses to buy, I recommend buying the premium license and not the basic one. With a basic license, you can only use Acapela for NVDA calibri voices. Premium purchase allows use of both calibri and HQ voices just like during trial period. Whether one chooses to buy any product or not is of course an individual decision.


Blake


Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

Hi Josh,
Thank you for specifying the version number of Acapela for NVDA which you experience difficulty with. The version number was not evident in your original thread. I agree with you about importance of testing and using Acapela for NVDA before making a purchasing decision. I trialed the product myself several years ago prior to buying.

I can confirm that the calibri voices Acapela NVDA add-on is not currently compatible with NVDA 2021.2. But, during the trial period you can download and use the HQ (high-quality) Acapela voices. I would suggest downloading/installing HQ Rod for your first voice test, which I presently have installed as my Acapela for NVDA voice. To my knowledge, people trialing the product and/or who have purchased a premium Acapela for NVDA license can use as many high-quality voices as they desire. If you or any one else chooses to buy, I recommend buying the premium license and not the basic one. With a basic license, you can only use Acapela for NVDA calibri voices. Premium purchase allows use of both calibri and HQ voices just like during trial period. Whether one chooses to buy any product or not is of course an individual decision.


Blake


Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Richard Wells
 

I have previously purchased Acapela  voices and they are working perfectly with NVDA 2021.2 here.

On 10/13/2021 4:16 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/


2. Follow the instructions, and get to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/get-your-download-here-v1-7/


3. Download the engine. I saved it.


4. Download the addon with all of the calibri voices or whatever they're called. Again, I saved it.


5. Go to where you saved them. Click on the addon for the engine. Tell it to install. Say no when it asks you to restart.


6. Then click on the addon with all of the voices. Again, say yes you want to install it. This time, restart.


7. Hit NVDA-ctrl-s, pick a capela as your synth.


For me, this talks just fine. I don't know that I'd buy them, because I've never been a huge fan of their voices and there's no rate boost that I can see, which means even at a hundred percent, it's slower than the rate I usually read at. But I am absolutely running NVDA 2021.2, I just checked, Windows 10 21H1 with latest updates, and it's working just fine. I didn't even get anything about picking a trial license or whatever, I just did the above steps, and it's working, for how long, I have no idea, not that it matters because I'm going to uninstall it all after I'm done writing this message anyway. I think I did briefly do a trial a few years ago, so maybe it's just picking up on that, although I don't know if I did it on this machine or not. Anyway, working just fine here.


On 10/13/2021 3:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi

 

The acapela voices 1.7 addon is not working with nvda 2021.2. I have 14 days left in the trial. I installed the engine and the Calibri voices. When I choose acapela I get no speech and have to restart NVDA. And when you try to install voices from the addon itself it wants you to download 1.6 addon version which is not compatible with 2021.2. I contacted acapela but got no response. If these voices won’t work I guess I can’t buy them and it says I have 14 days left in my trial so they should be working.

 

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: acapela 1.7 not working

Chris
 

You have either downloaded the wrong version of the addon or your version of NVDA is incompatible

 

I would go back to the download page of the acapela and download the correct version for your version of NVDA

 

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: 13 October 2021 21:16
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapela 1.7 not working

 

Hi

 

The acapela voices 1.7 addon is not working with nvda 2021.2. I have 14 days left in the trial. I installed the engine and the Calibri voices. When I choose acapela I get no speech and have to restart NVDA. And when you try to install voices from the addon itself it wants you to download 1.6 addon version which is not compatible with 2021.2. I contacted acapela but got no response. If these voices won’t work I guess I can’t buy them and it says I have 14 days left in my trial so they should be working.

 

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: acapela 1.7 not working

John Isige
 

1. Go to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/


2. Follow the instructions, and get to:


http://www.acapela-nvda.com/get-your-download-here-v1-7/


3. Download the engine. I saved it.


4. Download the addon with all of the calibri voices or whatever they're called. Again, I saved it.


5. Go to where you saved them. Click on the addon for the engine. Tell it to install. Say no when it asks you to restart.


6. Then click on the addon with all of the voices. Again, say yes you want to install it. This time, restart.


7. Hit NVDA-ctrl-s, pick a capela as your synth.


For me, this talks just fine. I don't know that I'd buy them, because I've never been a huge fan of their voices and there's no rate boost that I can see, which means even at a hundred percent, it's slower than the rate I usually read at. But I am absolutely running NVDA 2021.2, I just checked, Windows 10 21H1 with latest updates, and it's working just fine. I didn't even get anything about picking a trial license or whatever, I just did the above steps, and it's working, for how long, I have no idea, not that it matters because I'm going to uninstall it all after I'm done writing this message anyway. I think I did briefly do a trial a few years ago, so maybe it's just picking up on that, although I don't know if I did it on this machine or not. Anyway, working just fine here.


On 10/13/2021 3:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi

 

The acapela voices 1.7 addon is not working with nvda 2021.2. I have 14 days left in the trial. I installed the engine and the Calibri voices. When I choose acapela I get no speech and have to restart NVDA. And when you try to install voices from the addon itself it wants you to download 1.6 addon version which is not compatible with 2021.2. I contacted acapela but got no response. If these voices won’t work I guess I can’t buy them and it says I have 14 days left in my trial so they should be working.

 

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: NVDA and Online Editing Services

tim
 

Loo in NVDA preferences under document formating check color.k

On 10/13/2021 4:28 PM, David Russell wrote:
Hello NVDA Group,
I am a digest subscriber. My interest is in using one or two online
editing services: ProWritingAid and or Hemingway Editor.
One can paste text into either tool, read the document, but grammar or
spelling errors are noted with a different color when they occur.
Is there a keyboard shortcut to access a read colors feature that
might be standard on NVDA or Narrator?
I have googled NVDA color filters, Narrator color filters, and come up
with zilch.
Thanks in advance for any input.


Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA. I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke


Re: Goldwave NVDA question

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello Jean,

Looking at the latest add on for goldwave it mentions in the help file that this add on works better with goldwave 657.

Also the latest version of nvda must be used due to changes.

This apparently stops announcements of file name in play, rewind and fast forward.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 October 2021 21:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

 

I didn’t ask the question properly.  I should have said, is this for a situation where Gold Wave doesn’t know a screen-reader is being used and therefore doesn’t automatically go into screen-reader mode?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

 

Hello,
As well as muting speech with nvda key and s you could try from your start button press windows key and in the edit box type goldwave setup.
This takes you to a selection of different settings that aren't in goldwave itself.
At the bottom of that screen is a setting to
Force screen reader mode.
Try checking this and see if it makes a difference.
I know this works with jaws but aren't sure about nvda.
Tab then to save and press enter.
Hope this helps although I am using the latest add on for goldwave and running windows 10 and don't have the same problem but it may be worth fiddling with those settings to see if any make a difference.
Remember to restore speech having muted press nvda key and s twice.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: 13 October 2021 20:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

I am using the latest NVDA and the latest Goldwave add on with a new 14 inch Dell laptop. When I have a file open in Goldwave and hit play, nvda tells me what file I am playing. That of course makes editing difficult when using one soundcard. I've only had this happen on this laptop. Normally when I hit play, I just hear the word play or I just hear the audio start playing. Why is this happening on the laptop and how can I stop it. Thanks so much. Side note, at my advanced age it seems harder to learn a new keyboard lol!!!! Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.









Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,
Essentially, what you want to be able to happen is to have NVDA check the dimensions of the current object and then move in one of the ordinal directions until a new object is discovered beyond the current objet. I could see this being a slightly modified object removed type method.

For example oif current object upper left corner is
x=40, y=60 and its size is 60x40

Pressing down arrow Should look for an object near x=40, y=100

Jonathan

On Oct 13, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Luke Robinett <lukelistservs@...> wrote:

I wish this agile board software was open source because then I could just submit a poll request with the area tags I came up with and that would at least make it like 75% more usable with a screen reader. No luck though. Maybe I can email them and suggest adding these tags.

On Oct 13, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Luke Robinett via groups.io <lukelistservs@...> wrote:

Hey Gene,
Thanks for the suggestion. Yeah, I will give that use screen layout option a try but since the table isn’t constructed as an HTML table when I look at the source code, I’m not sure NVDA will be able to ascertain its layout. I agree a link would be helpful but this is actually an internal task board for our software development team at work so it isn’t publicly shareable. It’s the Jira platform though which appears to be a pretty popular agile project package so perhaps I can find a sample board that is publicly shareable. I will poke around. Thanks again.

On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

It would be useful to have a link to a page. I've seen such layouts that look like tables before but that don't use code that identifies them as tables.


I haven't tried this and I doubt it will work but you can try turning on use screen layout when supported. Its in browser settings. If it isn't checked, check the check box and activate the o.k button.


Gene

On 10/13/2021 1:26 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA. I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke












Re: Announcing cell coordinates in Excel

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Thanks a lot, Ann! It does work.
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Regards,
Sociohack


NVDA and Online Editing Services

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,
I am a digest subscriber. My interest is in using one or two online
editing services: ProWritingAid and or Hemingway Editor.
One can paste text into either tool, read the document, but grammar or
spelling errors are noted with a different color when they occur.
Is there a keyboard shortcut to access a read colors feature that
might be standard on NVDA or Narrator?
I have googled NVDA color filters, Narrator color filters, and come up
with zilch.
Thanks in advance for any input.

--
David C. Russell, Author
david.sonofhashem@...
Life is made up of sobs, sniffles, and smiles, with sniffles
predominating. (O. Henry)


Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Gene
 

I didn’t ask the question properly.  I should have said, is this for a situation where Gold Wave doesn’t know a screen-reader is being used and therefore doesn’t automatically go into screen-reader mode?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question
 
Hello,
As well as muting speech with nvda key and s you could try from your start button press windows key and in the edit box type goldwave setup.
This takes you to a selection of different settings that aren't in goldwave itself.
At the bottom of that screen is a setting to
Force screen reader mode.
Try checking this and see if it makes a difference.
I know this works with jaws but aren't sure about nvda.
Tab then to save and press enter.
Hope this helps although I am using the latest add on for goldwave and running windows 10 and don't have the same problem but it may be worth fiddling with those settings to see if any make a difference.
Remember to restore speech having muted press nvda key and s twice.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: 13 October 2021 20:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

I am using the latest NVDA and the latest Goldwave add on with a new 14 inch Dell laptop. When I have a file open in Goldwave and hit play, nvda tells me what file I am playing. That of course makes editing difficult when using one soundcard. I've only had this happen on this laptop. Normally when I hit play, I just hear the word play or I just hear the audio start playing. Why is this happening on the laptop and how can I stop it. Thanks so much. Side note, at my advanced age it seems harder to learn a new keyboard lol!!!! Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.










Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Gene
 

I should have said screen-reader mode.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question
 
Hello,
As well as muting speech with nvda key and s you could try from your start button press windows key and in the edit box type goldwave setup.
This takes you to a selection of different settings that aren't in goldwave itself.
At the bottom of that screen is a setting to
Force screen reader mode.
Try checking this and see if it makes a difference.
I know this works with jaws but aren't sure about nvda.
Tab then to save and press enter.
Hope this helps although I am using the latest add on for goldwave and running windows 10 and don't have the same problem but it may be worth fiddling with those settings to see if any make a difference.
Remember to restore speech having muted press nvda key and s twice.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: 13 October 2021 20:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

I am using the latest NVDA and the latest Goldwave add on with a new 14 inch Dell laptop. When I have a file open in Goldwave and hit play, nvda tells me what file I am playing. That of course makes editing difficult when using one soundcard. I've only had this happen on this laptop. Normally when I hit play, I just hear the word play or I just hear the audio start playing. Why is this happening on the laptop and how can I stop it. Thanks so much. Side note, at my advanced age it seems harder to learn a new keyboard lol!!!! Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.










Re: Goldwave NVDA question

Gene
 

Is this setting to deal with a situation such as in JARTE where JARTE doesn’t recognize JAWS and doesn’t automatically go into screen mode? 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question
 
Hello,
As well as muting speech with nvda key and s you could try from your start button press windows key and in the edit box type goldwave setup.
This takes you to a selection of different settings that aren't in goldwave itself.
At the bottom of that screen is a setting to
Force screen reader mode.
Try checking this and see if it makes a difference.
I know this works with jaws but aren't sure about nvda.
Tab then to save and press enter.
Hope this helps although I am using the latest add on for goldwave and running windows 10 and don't have the same problem but it may be worth fiddling with those settings to see if any make a difference.
Remember to restore speech having muted press nvda key and s twice.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: 13 October 2021 20:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave NVDA question

I am using the latest NVDA and the latest Goldwave add on with a new 14 inch Dell laptop. When I have a file open in Goldwave and hit play, nvda tells me what file I am playing. That of course makes editing difficult when using one soundcard. I've only had this happen on this laptop. Normally when I hit play, I just hear the word play or I just hear the audio start playing. Why is this happening on the laptop and how can I stop it. Thanks so much. Side note, at my advanced age it seems harder to learn a new keyboard lol!!!! Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.










Re: New NVDA Story: Open source opens the way

Jujube
 

Hello Janet, If you look up NV Access facebook page, it is already posted there :)

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