Computer says a new version of Weather is available, but the downloading doesn't work
Jarek.Krcmar
Hello all in group,
I want download and install a new version of Weather plus, but the downloading doesn't work. I would like to know, where is an error, and how to download it. Do you have any idea, please? -- Jarek
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Re: More flexible line length in browsing mode
Gene
In browse mode, you can set the line length. The default is
one-hundred carachters. I suppose it would be possible to have a read by
sentence option but I don’t know if there is any .demand for that. And it
would conflict with sentences in which there are links and you have NVDA set to
read every link on its own line.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] More flexible line length in browsing
mode I
believe in browse mode lines are defined visually, I don't recall NVDA
setting that would define line length. If you would like to read by sentences, you can install my SentenceNav add-on. HTH --Tony On 11/18/2021 11:07 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I have been using NVDA on and off for a few weeks. It's really a great > help. I'm new to this mailing list, so please forgive me if I'm asking > something old. > > When reading text from a Web page, the text is read in "lines", and > the user presses arrow-down for each line. NVDA has a setting for line > length, which is at 100 characters originally. So well, so good. > > What I find somewhat confusing, and possibly a place for improvement, > is that often a "line" ends a word or two before the end of a > sentence, or includes a word or two of a new sentence. I suspect that > quit a bit of thought must have gone into this, but I haven't found > any details yet. > > I would really appreciate if somebody could explain why "lines" end at > arbitrary positions in sentences, and are not done a bit more flexibly > so that they more often end at the end of a sentence. > > If this has been discussed already, I would appreciate pointers. Also > if there's some scientific paper about the issue. > > I have tried to think about why things are as described above, and > have come up with various possible reasons. If any of these reasons > applies, please just tell me. > > - There is already a setting/add-on for this, just use it. > > - Having more variable line lengths would make it more difficult to read > Web pages (e.g. because the intervals between the presses of the down > arrow would be more irregular). If that's the case, then I haven't yet > had enough practice to notice it. > > - Finding better positions to split text into lines is a much harder > problem than it looks. It is difficult to find actual sentence > boundaries in text (not all periods are sentence endings), and > long sentences without punctuation are also difficult to split. > > - Finding better positions to split is possible, but good algorithms > are too slow. Text-to-speech conversion already uses quite a bit > of processing power. > > - Finding sentence boundaries is quit language dependent, and therefore > difficult to implement in a general way. > > - The overall architecture of NVDA (and other screen readers) makes > it too difficult to implement such a feature. > > - Some other screen readers already do a better job at this, but we > at NVDA just have not had time to get around to do something here. > Help is appreciated. (I might want to help.) > > - That's how screen readers always have done it, and everybody is > used to it, and so changing it isn't a good idea. > > If there are any other actual or potential reasons, please tell me. > > Many thanks in advance for your help. > > With kind regards, Martin. > > > > >
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Re: More flexible line length in browsing mode
Tony Malykh
I believe in browse mode lines are defined visually, I don't recall NVDA setting that would define line length.
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If you would like to read by sentences, you can install my SentenceNav add-on. HTH --Tony
On 11/18/2021 11:07 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
Hello everybody,
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Re: NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
I think one of mine said “return” or “new line” or nothing at all. and now I can’t remember which one as that might have been in 1987 or so.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 1:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
I don’t know but enter is what screen-readers generally say if you have them set to speak such keys.
Gene -----Originall Message----- From: Mani Iyer via groups.io Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
Warmly, Mani .
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Re: NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Can’t you customize that key, or am I confused with the punctuation dictionary. If so, then ignore me.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 12:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
Warmly, Mani .
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Re: Volume in Thunderbird
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 04:05 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I don't know how that TB configuration got created. I didn't do it on purpose and I don't think it did anything I needed.- A classic example of why my advice to all my clients, about any sort of software, setting, etc., is if your answer when someone asks, "Do you use {insert thing here}?," is either "no," or, "I don't know," the probability that you actually need it is virtually zero. Most people remember that they created something, or installed something, even if the details may be hazy. But having no recall means it's almost certainly something that was either unintentionally created or, in the case of a lot of pre-installed software, falls into the class of bloatware that almost no one uses. Bloatware is one of the reasons that many technicians do a completely clean reinstall of Windows 10 or Windows 11 as the first thing they do with a brand new machine. What comes from Microsoft has none of that and you end up with a pristine Windows instance. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: Running NVDA on macOS using parallels
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 02:17 PM, Jonathan COHN wrote:
I do recommend that you think closely about if a Mac is your right choice and I say this as somebody who uses a Mac on a daily basis and has for 30 years. I suggest you discuss your reasons for wanting to switch to a Macintosh on the MacVisionaries mailing list that is run by Google Groups.- I couldn't agree more, and that's no matter what computing ecosystem you're thinking of abandoning and which you are thinking about transitioning to. I have seen people jumping from PC to Mac, PC to Linux, and vice versa with each of those often believing that "the grass is greener on the other side." It isn't, at least on the whole. And when you walk away from what you already know "in every fiber of your being" after years of using whatever ecosystem you've been using you end up with a period where frustration is high because things you used to do without thinking no longer work that way. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Gene
I don’t know but enter is what screen-readers generally say if you have
them set to speak such keys.
Gene
-----Originall Message-----
From: Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad Thank
you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the
technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’
for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the
‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said
‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
Warmly,
Mani
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Re: NVDA OCR - Can you save the text result somehow?
benmoxey@...
Hi everyone
In addition to Rui’s excellent add-on, if you only want to easily access the text content of the active window, try Virtual Review. Once installed, you can press NVDA + Control + W to place all text in the current window into a virtual buffer. Then, you can select, copy, paste etc. When done, press Escape to return to the window.
Check it out on the official add-ons page:
Virtual Review (nvda-project.org)
Cheers
Ben
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 2:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA OCR - Can you save the text result somehow?
For that I think is better our add-on, NVDARecorder... You can get it from: https://nvda.es/files/get.php?file=nvdarecorder
Information Usage Note: What is spoken in SayAll is not recorded. To activate/deactivate the recording Press ALT + NumPad Plus. This command can be modified in the "Input gestures" dialog in the "Miscellaneous" category. Automatic update
Best regards, Às 14:27 de 20/11/2021, Giles Turnbull escreveu:
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Re: Volume in Thunderbird
Howard Traxler
Yes, Gene. it was exactly as you described. So when I was in thunderbird, I could not access the volume control. When I flipped to the volume control it changed to the normal configuration and all was OK. So I couldn't figure out how to change the volume while the TB configuration was active.
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I don't know how that TB configuration got created. I didn't do it on purpose and I don't think it did anything I needed. Howard
On 11/20/2021 2:44 PM, Gene wrote:
While you don’t need to know this to solve the problem, knowing it may be useful at some point in terms of how configurations can be set to work.
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Re: ableton live suport with NVDA
Luis Carlos González Moráles
I'm sorry to say that but the DAW, regardless of screen reader is inaccesible, and it's far from impossible to be. Same with FLS. En 20 de noviembre de 2021 3:06:59 p. m. "Eduardo Fermiano Luccas" <25102008luccas@...> escribió:
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Re: NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Mani Iyer
Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
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Warmly, Mani .
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Re: Volume in Thunderbird
Gene
While you don’t need to know this to solve the problem, knowing it may be
useful at some point in terms of how configurations can be set to work.
I hadn’t thought about you having a Thunderbird configuration. I
thought you meant that when you opened the volume control, your volume went down
and stayed down even when you returned to Thunderbird. Since you had a
Thunderbird configuration, the volume evidently got higher when you returned to
Thunderbird. It wouldn’t have mattered what you did, any time you left the
Thunderbird window, the volume would have gone down and every time you returned,
it would have gone up. The cconfiguration was set to be active any time
you were in the Thunderbird window.
Configurations can be set to be active when you are in a program window and
not active when you aren’t.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Volume in Thunderbird Thank
you Brian and Gene. I will file those suggestions. In the
meantime, I deleted the thunderbird configuration from NVDA. I didn't know it was there nor what it was good for. So now everything is better (I think). Howard On 11/20/2021 2:24 PM, Gene wrote: > Evidently, you are saying that it goes down when you do nothing but > open the volume control dialog. > I don’t know why it is happening but the easiest and fastest > workaround would probably be to create a shortcut and a shortcut > command to open the volume control. You could use a command like > control alt v and you can do it from anywhere so inside of > Thunderbird, you can execute the command, then, when the volume > control dialog opens and the volume goes down, you can simply close it > and I believe you will be placed back in Thunderbird without having to > move to it. > Gene > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Howard Traxler <mailto:htraxler7@...> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:11 AM > *To:* NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject:* [nvda] Volume in Thunderbird > When I open thunderbird, the volume jumps up to be uncomfortably loud. > Can't seem to keep it from changing. When I go to the system volume > control, it goes back down. > > HELP? > > Howard > > > > >
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Re: Volume in Thunderbird
Howard Traxler
Thank you Brian and Gene. I will file those suggestions. In the meantime, I deleted the thunderbird configuration from NVDA. I didn't know it was there nor what it was good for. So now everything is better (I think).
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Howard
On 11/20/2021 2:24 PM, Gene wrote:
Evidently, you are saying that it goes down when you do nothing but open the volume control dialog.
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Re: Volume in Thunderbird
Gene
Evidently, you are saying that it goes down when you do nothing but open
the volume control dialog.
I don’t know why it is happening but the easiest and fastest workaround
would probably be to create a shortcut and a shortcut command to open the volume
control. You could use a command like control alt v and you can do it from
anywhere so inside of Thunderbird, you can execute the command, then, when the
volume control dialog opens and the volume goes down, you can simply close it
and I believe you will be placed back in Thunderbird without having to move to
it.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:11 AM
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] Volume in Thunderbird When
I open thunderbird, the volume jumps up to be uncomfortably loud.
Can't seem to keep it from changing. When I go to the system volume control, it goes back down. HELP? Howard
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ableton live suport with NVDA
Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
I don't know if this will be blocked but my question is does ableton live work with NVDA?
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Re: Running NVDA on macOS using parallels
OH yes it will. I used to use vmware way back in 2017. I have no clue if you need to modify the capslock key but if you do it should be no big deal really. You can use something like sharpkeys to remap that under the windows environment.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Saylor Cooper Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 6:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Running NVDA on macOS using parallels Hello NVDA users, I am considering switching to Mac OS but at the same time, I’m hesitant on giving up my favorite windows programs. I know I can run windows using parallels with the new max so therefore, would NVDA work on the virtual machine when running it? Please let me know. Saylor Cooper
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New add-on to access offline dictionaries
Rui Fontes
Hello!
Released Dictionaries add-on on version 21.11: • Authors: Rui Fontes, Ângelo Abrantes and Abel Passos do Nascimento Jr. • Updated in 19/11/2021 • Download stable version: https://github.com/ruifontes/Dictionaries/releases/download/21.11/dictionaries-21.11.nvda-addon • Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and beyond Presentation This add-on provides a quick way to access, so far, 21 dictionaries: • English-Portuguese and Portuguese-English; • French-Portuguese and Portuguese-French; • Italian-Portuguese and Portuguese-Italian; • German-Portuguese and Portuguese-German; • Spanish-Portuguese and Portuguese-Spanish; • English-Spanish; • Englis (Concise Oxford dictionary); • Portuguese (meanings) (in portuguese); • Portuguese (synonyms) (in portuguese); • English (synonyms); • Spanish (RAE); • Chemical (in portuguese); • Medical (in portuguese); • Philosophy by Nicola Abbagnano (in portuguese); • Psychology by Raul Mesquita and other (in portuguese). • Computing (in portuguese). In order not to overload the extra, only the Portuguese, English and between these two languages dictionaries are available. The remaining can be downloaded through the extra itself. We are receptive to include other dictionaries. So, if you desire to add a dictionary, contact one of the authors. Command The command to invoke the add-on is Control+Shift+F6. It is possible to change it in the Input gestures dialogs, in the Dictionary category. Changes Version 21.11 • Added more dictionaries; • Changed the search routine to not be sensitive to capitalization; • Changed the presentation of results, now allowing you to choose to search again, copy the result to clipboard or exit; • The extra is provided only with the English, Portuguese and between the two languages dictionaries, and it is possible to download the others using a button on the interface; • The dictionaries are stored at www.tiflotecnia.net. Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team
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Re: Running NVDA on macOS using parallels
Jonathan COHN
Hello,
Of course five year old data will not help in this case, since the user is thinking of purchasing a non-intel Macintosh. I know this would not be obvious unless you were a Macintosh user. First, there is at least one person running Windows on a M1 based Macintosh with parallel and using a screen reader. I believe they are using JAWS though. My understanding of Parallel is that its user interface is not accessible to voiceover but that you don't need to use it once the VM is set up. I do recommend that you think closely about if a Mac is your right choice and I say this as somebody who uses a Mac on a daily basis and has for 30 years. I suggest you discuss your reasons for wanting to switch to a Macintosh on the MacVisionaries mailing list that is run by Google Groups. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn
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NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes
cisco
Hello everyone,
I’m quite sorry that I could not think of an easier to understand subject but I am not good at that. Also, I am sorry if one or both of the questions I am going to ask had to be asked on the chat group.
My first questions is, is there any software that a blind highschooler can use in conjunction with NvDA to do their math work?
My second question is, does anyone have an NVDA sound theme which has android’s talkback sounds and which is also compatible with the “Audio Themes” NVDA add-on?
Thank you for any answer, and again, I’m sorry for all I said above. Best regards. Francisco.
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