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Re: NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

tim
 

In the settings go down to advanced and turn on the UI stuff.

On 10/3/2021 11:02 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Thanks for the suggestion. I just checked and yes I do have report
dynamic content changes checked.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:
Do you have "report dynamic content changes" checked under
preferences/settings/object presentation? You can also toggle this with
NVDA-5 on the number row. I'm pretty sure if you don't have this turned
on, the window doesn't read. I just checked, and that is indeed the case.


On 10/3/2021 9:53 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Using the latest version of NVDA though this problem occurred
previously, and win10 trying to read a command prompt window. This is
on a desktop. I can not read it, I am wondering if there's a setting I
have to enable?

Thanks.
Dave.









Excel: Braille Display Router Key Making it Hang

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 10 20H2 Build 19042.1237, NVDA 2021.2, a Brailliant B64 braille display  and MicroSoft Office 2016.

Sometimes when I am editing in VBA if I press a cursor routing key Excel stops working. I have to close the program and open it again.

Does anyone know why this is happening? It happened with the previous version of NVDA as well. It did not do this when I was using MSOffice 2010.

Another thing with MSOffice 2016: when I press <Alt+F11> to open the VBA Editor, it will not work until I press <Alt+F4> to close it and open it again.

Has anyone else had this experience?

Thanks

pele West


Re: NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Dave

I just opened command prompt, typed “dir c:\” and pressed enter.  I then used the 7 key on the Numpad to work backwards through the displayed info.  The 7,8,9 keys read previous , current, next line, 4,5,6 do the same by word and 1,2,3 by character.  This worked irrespective of the “Dynamic content” setting.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: David Mehler
Sent: 04 October 2021 04:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

 

Hello,

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I just checked and yes I do have report

dynamic content changes checked.

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 10/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

> Do you have "report dynamic content changes" checked under

> preferences/settings/object presentation? You can also toggle this with

> NVDA-5 on the number row. I'm pretty sure if you don't have this turned

> on, the window doesn't read. I just checked, and that is indeed the case.

> On 10/3/2021 9:53 PM, David Mehler wrote:

>> Hello,

>> 

>> Using the latest version of NVDA though this problem occurred

>> previously, and win10 trying to read a command prompt window. This is

>> on a desktop. I can not read it, I am wondering if there's a setting I

>> have to enable?

>> 

>> Thanks.

>> Dave.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Microsoft teams with nvda

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Gene and all,
I use Microsoft Teams every day at work.
Accessibility has been taken into account but in my opinion, Teams is not always usable.
First, there are many shortcuts that are really helpful.
Calling people and participating in conferences is easy when you know the shortcuts to use the camera or the microphone, when you share your screen. It is easier to interact with calls when you set Teams to open conversations in a new window.
But when you receive many messages in different teams and channels, I find it difficult to find where something new has happened, in opposition to Slack.
Some things are rendered very well by NVDA: for example in a conversation, each message has a different heading.
But when you get a new message I think it is not always very easy to find them: you often have to use the tab key to find it.
The activity tab that you can reach with ctrl+1 should list all unread activities but I often can access to only one activity.
Nevertheless, I find Teams easier to use with the desktop app than the browser interface.
And as far as my personal point of view is concerned, I prefer using Zoom for conferences and Slack for chatting. I find them easier to use with a screen reader.
Best
Sylvie

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Envoyé : samedi 2 octobre 2021 08:26
À : nvda@groups.io
Objet : [nvda] Microsoft teams with nvda

Hi guys


I have been asked the following question about how well nvda works with Microsoft teams. I do not use it so can not comment.


Are there others on the list who do and how well does it work with it.


I did not see a add on for it so is one not required? unless I missed it
on the website. I see there is one for zoom.


I note there is a lot of shortcuts you can use with it so I guess nvda
will work with it.


any bugs to look out while using it or is it pretty good.


I did come across this link and teams at
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-a-screen-reader-to-explore-and-navigate-microsoft-teams-47614fb0-a583-49f6-84da-6872223e74a0?ui=en-us&rs=en-ie&ad=ie
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-a-screen-reader-to-explore-and-navigate-microsoft-teams-47614fb0-a583-49f6-84da-6872223e74a0?ui=en-us&rs=en-ie&ad=ie>

Any help would be good to feed back.


Gene nz


Re: NVDA and excel

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


here is the file I'm working with  the cells I am having the problem with is c118 and c121.
 

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Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and excel

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 03:12 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
What can cause a cell with a formula to announce "unknown"?
-
If this particular spreadsheet is not private, I'd suggest sharing it.  It is as close to impossible as it can be to answer this sort of question unless the issue is common, and you're the first person I know of who's hit this particular issue.

Having the "problem spreadsheet" makes it easier to figure out.
--

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         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I’m surprised there isn’t an implicit setting to turn off the reporting of blank lines globally. Most other screen readers tend to have this.

 

All the best


steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 04 October 2021 01:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

There is an issue for skipping blank lines in browse mode: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4904

 

As I noted in a comment to that issue: The main workaround I would suggest is to use say all (NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+a) to read things like messages in Outlook, which will skip blank lines. Another setting which can help particularly in Outlook is to supress reporting of tables. Press NVDA+control+d to open the document formatting settings, then alt+t until you get to "tables", uncheck that, and NVDA should read emails in Outlook a bit smoother.

 

Otherwise, if you can add anything else regarding use cases or implementation not already covered in the previous comments on that issue, do please comment on the issue itself.

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:11 AM Luke Robinett <lukelistservs@...> wrote:

Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.

What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern 

So: 

^ *$ 

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan 

 

 

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 


 

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Re: Unable to click on the login link

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Shift Enter will do the same thing, so you don’t have to right click it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dejan Ristic
Sent: 03 October 2021 17:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

Hi,

 

Although I'm not participating in this thread, I'd like you to hear a few words from me:

 

When I happen to  come across a link that won't open after making 100 efforts to make it open, I then do the following:

 

I focus on the very link that won't budge, and then, I do the right mouse clicking, and then I open the link in a new window in Chrome. That's helped me several times. Make sure whether it is a link you wish to open. If it turns out to be a button, then this trick won't help.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Dejan

On 03/10/2021 17:19, Gene wrote:

I have never seen that behavior.  I suspect it is rare or quite rare.  Perhaps you are talking about something you would usually hover over with a mouse. 

 

Whatever the case, I said that what is going on may require sighted evaluation.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

I don’t often rely on that as sometimes when you tab away the edit fields can and may disappear. What browser are you using btw.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

When I was on the link, I opened the context menu in the browser and pressed enter on copy.  Your browser may say something different in the menu like copy location or copy link.  That copied the link to the clipboard.  When I read what was there, it just said JAVA script.  Since you aren’t blocking scripts, finding out what is occurring on the page may require sighted evaluation.  However, after you pressed enter on the link, did you go to the top of the page and use the e command to move through the page looking for an edit field that may have come up in a different place on the page for logging in?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 9:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

Hi Gene,

 

I am not using any script blockers. The site is trust worthy but I appreciate where you are coming from. How did you extract the underlying link?

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

Are you using any sort of script blocker or do you have JAVA scripts set to off in your browser?  This is a JAVA script link, as I found when I copied the underlying link to the clipboard.  I don’t know anything about the trustworthiness of this site so I haven’t visited the page with JAVA script enabled.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Pranav Lal

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 8:25 AM

Subject: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

 

Hi all,

I am trying to click on the login link at the below URL.
https://offers.reward360.in/regalia

I see the login link but when I hit enter on it, nothing happens. I am
supposed to see some kind of popup box.
I have tried the following without success.
1. I have switched to focus mode and have then tabbed to the login link and
hit enter.
2. I used object navigation to get to the link and then hit the activate
keystroke.
3.I used object navigation to get to the login link, hit the pass key
through keystroke and then hit the activate keystroke namely numeric pad
insert + enter in the nvda desktop keyboard layout.
4. I used the list of links feature, got to the login link and then hit the
activate option.

What can I do to activate this link?
Note:
It is possible that the link is being activate but NVDA is not seeing the
box. However, I am not sure if this is the case.

Pranav




 

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Re: Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sameer,

NVDA can give you phonetic pronunciation, but the execution is slightly different.  If you press many NVDA keystrokes once, they will read the information, twice quickly spells it, and three times quickly spells it phonetically.  For instance, if you press NVDA+up arrow (or NVDA+l if using laptop keyboard layout), NVDA will read the current line.  If you press it twice quickly, it will spell the current line, and if you press it three times quickly it will spell it phonetically.

For words, press numpad 5 or NVDA+control+dot
For the current character, press numpad 2 or NVDA+dot

(For those thinking ahead, yes they report the word or character at the review cursor, but anyone not already familiar with that probably isn't moving the review cursor independently of the caret too often).

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Sameer Latey <salatey@...> wrote:

Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak
the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G
in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


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Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

Sameer Latey
 

Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


--

Regards
Sameer Latey


Re: NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks for the suggestion. I just checked and yes I do have report
dynamic content changes checked.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 10/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:
Do you have "report dynamic content changes" checked under
preferences/settings/object presentation? You can also toggle this with
NVDA-5 on the number row. I'm pretty sure if you don't have this turned
on, the window doesn't read. I just checked, and that is indeed the case.


On 10/3/2021 9:53 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Using the latest version of NVDA though this problem occurred
previously, and win10 trying to read a command prompt window. This is
on a desktop. I can not read it, I am wondering if there's a setting I
have to enable?

Thanks.
Dave.









Re: NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

John Isige
 

Do you have "report dynamic content changes" checked under preferences/settings/object presentation? You can also toggle this with NVDA-5 on the number row. I'm pretty sure if you don't have this turned on, the window doesn't read. I just checked, and that is indeed the case.

On 10/3/2021 9:53 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Using the latest version of NVDA though this problem occurred
previously, and win10 trying to read a command prompt window. This is
on a desktop. I can not read it, I am wondering if there's a setting I
have to enable?

Thanks.
Dave.




NVDA can not read win10 command prompt window

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Using the latest version of NVDA though this problem occurred
previously, and win10 trying to read a command prompt window. This is
on a desktop. I can not read it, I am wondering if there's a setting I
have to enable?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

I find it actually good when arr owing down a document or web page when editing it otherwise how would I know when to insert information  into certain part of my website or stories that I am writing.

It also lets me know if there are 2 many blank spaces of which I can simply just delete out if I do not want them.



If i do not want to hear it when reading when I go to review the document or web page I just use the say all command.


Gene nz

 

On 4/10/2021 1:11 pm, Luke Robinett wrote:
Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.
What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern 

So: 

^ *$ 

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan 

 



On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 


Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

Gene
 

It should be able to be done but is there a reason you don’t use read to end in e-mails?  Read to end doesn’t announce blank lines and starts reading the text skipping all blank lines if there are any.
 
Also, what program are you using for e-mail and are you reading mail in plain text or HTML?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
 
Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.
What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern

So:

^ *$

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan

 



On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 


Re: Unable to click on the login link

Jackie
 

If you submitted your email, then they likely sent you a code to
verify that you're an actual person signing up rather than a bot.

On 10/3/21, Pranav Lal <pranav@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie and all,

Many thanks for testing. I tried it after reading your message and am stuck
at the sine up link. I can activate it without problems in chrome but then
I have selected e-mail and am being asked for some kind of code. A most
confusing site.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hey P, this site is a real b-word, & that is the polite & edited version. So
I was able to do it in Chrome--firefox was pretty useless w/it.

On entry, you're displayed an offer of the day, which you have to click.
Firefox didn't show it as that, ie, I think it's displayed as an overlay.

Once you do that, click the login link, then go into forms mode by pressing
NVDA+spacebar.

Enabling object navigation, you'll find that it's asking for your
email/mobile.

Definitively not designed w/the blind in mind.

On 10/3/21, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:
Hi,


Although I'm not participating in this thread, I'd like you to hear a
few words from me:


When I happen to come across a link that won't open after making 100
efforts to make it open, I then do the following:


I focus on the very link that won't budge, and then, I do the right
mouse clicking, and then I open the link in a new window in Chrome.
That's helped me several times. Make sure whether it is a link you
wish to open. If it turns out to be a button, then this trick won't help.


Hope this helps.


Cheers,


Dejan

On 03/10/2021 17:19, Gene wrote:
I have never seen that behavior. I suspect it is rare or quite rare.
Perhaps you are talking about something you would usually hover over
with a mouse.
Whatever the case, I said that what is going on may require sighted
evaluation.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 03, 2021 10:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

I don’t often rely on that as sometimes when you tab away the edit
fields can and may disappear. What browser are you using btw.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:01 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

When I was on the link, I opened the context menu in the browser and
pressed enter on copy. Your browser may say something different in
the menu like copy location or copy link. That copied the link to the
clipboard. When I read what was there, it just said JAVA script.
Since you aren’t blocking scripts, finding out what is occurring on
the page may require sighted evaluation. However, after you pressed
enter on the link, did you go to the top of the page and use the e
command to move through the page looking for an edit field that may
have come up in a different place on the page for logging in?

Gene

-----Original Message-----

*From:*Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, October 03, 2021 9:45 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hi Gene,

I am not using any script blockers. The site is trust worthy but I
appreciate where you are coming from. How did you extract the
underlying link?

Pranav

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, October 3, 2021 7:49 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Are you using any sort of script blocker or do you have JAVA scripts
set to off in your browser? This is a JAVA script link, as I found
when I copied the underlying link to the clipboard. I don’t know
anything about the trustworthiness of this site so I haven’t visited
the page with JAVA script enabled.

Gene

-----Original Message-----

*From:*Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, October 03, 2021 8:25 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hi all,

I am trying to click on the login link at the below URL.
https://offers.reward360.in/regalia
<https://offers.reward360.in/regalia>

I see the login link but when I hit enter on it, nothing happens. I
am supposed to see some kind of popup box.
I have tried the following without success.
1. I have switched to focus mode and have then tabbed to the login
link and hit enter.
2. I used object navigation to get to the link and then hit the
activate keystroke.
3.I used object navigation to get to the login link, hit the pass key
through keystroke and then hit the activate keystroke namely numeric
pad insert + enter in the nvda desktop keyboard layout.
4. I used the list of links feature, got to the login link and then
hit the activate option.

What can I do to activate this link?
Note:
It is possible that the link is being activate but NVDA is not seeing
the box. However, I am not sure if this is the case.

Pranav




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Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

Quentin Christensen
 

There is an issue for skipping blank lines in browse mode: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4904

As I noted in a comment to that issue: The main workaround I would suggest is to use say all (NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+a) to read things like messages in Outlook, which will skip blank lines. Another setting which can help particularly in Outlook is to supress reporting of tables. Press NVDA+control+d to open the document formatting settings, then alt+t until you get to "tables", uncheck that, and NVDA should read emails in Outlook a bit smoother.

Otherwise, if you can add anything else regarding use cases or implementation not already covered in the previous comments on that issue, do please comment on the issue itself.

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:11 AM Luke Robinett <lukelistservs@...> wrote:
Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.
What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02=VERIZON.NET@groups.io> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern 

So: 

^ *$ 

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan 

 



On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 



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Re: Unable to click on the login link

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Jackie and all,

Many thanks for testing. I tried it after reading your message and am stuck at the sine up link. I can activate it without problems in chrome but then I have selected e-mail and am being asked for some kind of code. A most confusing site.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hey P, this site is a real b-word, & that is the polite & edited version. So I was able to do it in Chrome--firefox was pretty useless w/it.

On entry, you're displayed an offer of the day, which you have to click. Firefox didn't show it as that, ie, I think it's displayed as an overlay.

Once you do that, click the login link, then go into forms mode by pressing NVDA+spacebar.

Enabling object navigation, you'll find that it's asking for your email/mobile.

Definitively not designed w/the blind in mind.

On 10/3/21, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:
Hi,


Although I'm not participating in this thread, I'd like you to hear a
few words from me:


When I happen to come across a link that won't open after making 100
efforts to make it open, I then do the following:


I focus on the very link that won't budge, and then, I do the right
mouse clicking, and then I open the link in a new window in Chrome.
That's helped me several times. Make sure whether it is a link you
wish to open. If it turns out to be a button, then this trick won't help.


Hope this helps.


Cheers,


Dejan

On 03/10/2021 17:19, Gene wrote:
I have never seen that behavior. I suspect it is rare or quite rare.
Perhaps you are talking about something you would usually hover over
with a mouse.
Whatever the case, I said that what is going on may require sighted
evaluation.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 03, 2021 10:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

I don’t often rely on that as sometimes when you tab away the edit
fields can and may disappear. What browser are you using btw.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:01 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

When I was on the link, I opened the context menu in the browser and
pressed enter on copy. Your browser may say something different in
the menu like copy location or copy link. That copied the link to the
clipboard. When I read what was there, it just said JAVA script.
Since you aren’t blocking scripts, finding out what is occurring on
the page may require sighted evaluation. However, after you pressed
enter on the link, did you go to the top of the page and use the e
command to move through the page looking for an edit field that may
have come up in a different place on the page for logging in?

Gene

-----Original Message-----

*From:*Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, October 03, 2021 9:45 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hi Gene,

I am not using any script blockers. The site is trust worthy but I
appreciate where you are coming from. How did you extract the
underlying link?

Pranav

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, October 3, 2021 7:49 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Are you using any sort of script blocker or do you have JAVA scripts
set to off in your browser? This is a JAVA script link, as I found
when I copied the underlying link to the clipboard. I don’t know
anything about the trustworthiness of this site so I haven’t visited
the page with JAVA script enabled.

Gene

-----Original Message-----

*From:*Pranav Lal <mailto:pranav@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, October 03, 2021 8:25 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] Unable to click on the login link

Hi all,

I am trying to click on the login link at the below URL.
https://offers.reward360.in/regalia
<https://offers.reward360.in/regalia>

I see the login link but when I hit enter on it, nothing happens. I
am supposed to see some kind of popup box.
I have tried the following without success.
1. I have switched to focus mode and have then tabbed to the login
link and hit enter.
2. I used object navigation to get to the link and then hit the
activate keystroke.
3.I used object navigation to get to the login link, hit the pass key
through keystroke and then hit the activate keystroke namely numeric
pad insert + enter in the nvda desktop keyboard layout.
4. I used the list of links feature, got to the login link and then
hit the activate option.

What can I do to activate this link?
Note:
It is possible that the link is being activate but NVDA is not seeing
the box. However, I am not sure if this is the case.

Pranav




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Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

Luke Robinett
 

Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.
What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern 

So: 

^ *$ 

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan 

 



On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 


Re: NVDA and excel

 

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 03:12 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
What can cause a cell with a formula to announce "unknown"?
-
If this particular spreadsheet is not private, I'd suggest sharing it.  It is as close to impossible as it can be to answer this sort of question unless the issue is common, and you're the first person I know of who's hit this particular issue.

Having the "problem spreadsheet" makes it easier to figure out.
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NVDA and excel

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

What can cause a cell with a formula to announce "unknown"? When I press f2. I can move to a cell above or below it and it shows me what the formula is.
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