please test this problem with different versions of firefox with nvda.
i revert to 2016.1 with no problem!
but i wish the progress and succeed of nvda not its regression.
please solve this critical issue!
nvda was the most compatible screen reader with firefox and now, its
not possible to work with it with the fresh install of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar

please test this problem with different versions of firefox with nvda.
i revert to 2016.1 with no problem!
but i wish the progress and succeed of nvda not its regression.
please solve this critical issue!
nvda was the most compatible screen reader with firefox and now, its
not possible to work with it with the fresh install of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar

hi brian.

thanks so much for your guide.

but i dont have any addon in my firefox except webvisum!

i installed nvda 2016.1 with no issue with fresh install.

i tried two times 16.3 and the result is only not supporting of firefox!

i did not have install with fale.

if this issue is related to uninstalling one software without success,

i should face this problem in all versions of nvda.

but only it occured for me with 2016.3!

and also even i dont have any addons install with nvda and also even i

did not install adobe flash player!

nvda works well with internet explorer version 8 which is the last

version that supports xp.

and i am not sure about the latest versions of explorer!

the only problem is with firefox, always, for all websites and even

with the web pages which i stored for reading offline!

i did not use 2016.2 because of reading of punctuations with farsi language.

so please test this problem with this version too.

i only tested 15.4 and 16.1 without any problem!

On 10/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

> On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.

>   Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual  parameters to cause this

> 

> effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the

> developers.

>  Do the affected folk have any  extensions or add ons on their Firefox?

>  I use navigational sounds. the  nuw add blocker, not the one that allows

> ads,

> There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of

> embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.

>  My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking  add on like

> the avg  one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those

> 

> seem to act up a lot.

>  Brian

> 

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal email to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with

> firefox. i need its developers help.

> 

> 

> hi.

> because you install this version with previous profiles.

> you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.

> for this reason, you dont have any problem!

> i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

> 

> On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> hi.

>> why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?

>> I'm using and I do not have these issues.

>> 

>> cheers.

>> Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

>>> hello every one.

>>> i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.

>>> i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and

>>> installed nvda 2016.3.

>>> i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.

>>> when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible

>>> with firefox with the fresh install!

>>> the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not

>>> work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!

>>> i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is

>>> the

>>> same!

>>> i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.

>>> whats the reason for this regression?

>>> i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this

>>> version, because i tested this two times!

>>> and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

>>> 

>>> g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com

>>> and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.

>>> i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address

>>> correctly.

>>> 

>>> as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4

>>> to 2016.3 everythings is great.

>>> and this problem happens only for fresh install.

>>> that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,

>>> download version 2016.3 and installs it!

>>> i can only press tab and navigate by links.

>>> but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the

>>> web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> --

> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

> al-islam.org

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages

al-islam.org

On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this

effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the
developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows
ads,
There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of
embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like
the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those

seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is
the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Hi will the next release of nvda fully support microsoft edge?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Hello,

What has happened to task manager in win10? It is completely changed
from win7 and not sure how to interact with it. I'm running 1607 and
NVDA 2016.3.

Thanks.
Dave.

hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

Thanks for letting us know...
I am still using NVDA 16.1, and Firefox 49.0.1 is working as it ought to be.
HTH,
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/1/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 1, 2016, 12:38 AM
hi.
thanks so much for your quick answer!
may i ask since which version this problem
occured exactly?
i am shure that i did not
have this problem in nvda 2016.1 and before.
how is it in 2016.2?
for me
this problem happens always and in all websites!
nvda completely unusable for me in this
version, because i am
comfortable with
firefox and i only use it!
i forgot to
mentioned, that i dont have this problem in internet
explorer.
i have internet explorer 8 on
windows xp, but i am not comfortable
with
and dont use explorer!
nvda has the most
compatibility with firefox and i used it very great!
how can i beleive this real critical issue?
could you fix it with the pach update like nvda
2016.3.1 and also
could you please test it
with 2016.2.1 or 16.2?
thanks again for your
help.
On 10/1/16, enes
sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...>
wrote:
> hi,
>
> Can confirm this. For some reason, nvda
merges all elements in a webpage
> and
reads them like a document. Clicking links is impossible in
the
> merged parts of the page. This does
not always happen however.
>
>
> On 10/1/2016 7:22 AM,
nasrin khaksar wrote:
>> hello every
one.
>> i tested nvda 2016.3 and i
faced a very important regression.
>>
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its
profile and
>> installed nvda
2016.3.
>> i set my prefered settings
and started to work with it.
>> when i
wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not
accessible
>> with firefox with the
fresh install!
>> the arrow keys does
not work, singl letter for navigation does not
>> work and also even nvda does not read
the content of a webpage!
>> i tested
this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result
is the
>> same!
>> i tested with firefox 22, 39 and
41.
>> whats the reason for this
regression?
>> i am not shure about
nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
>> version, because i tested this two
times!
>> and when i want to open my
gmail and type the address, nvda says:
>>
>> g gm gma gmai
gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
>> and even i cant navigate with the
address which i typed.
>> i can only
let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
>> correctly.
>>
>> as i mentioned, for example: if i
upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
>>
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
>> and
this problem happens only for fresh install.
>> that mean one person wants to install
nvda for the first time,
>> download
version 2016.3 and installs it!
>> i
can only press tab and navigate by links.
>> but when i press enter on it to read,
i cant read the content of the
>>
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you
all.
>>
>>
>
>
>

>
>
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the
creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse
107.
best website for studying islamic book
in different languages
al-islam.org

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

hi,

Can confirm this. For some reason, nvda merges all elements in a webpage
and reads them like a document. Clicking links is impossible in the
merged parts of the page. This does not always happen however.


On 10/1/2016 7:22 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.