What the user wants is that NVDA announces automatically the phonetic alphabet.

He must use this add-on:

Author: David CM
Add-on name: Enhanced Phonetic Reading
Description: This add-on add some features to phonetic reading as the following:
announce the character description for the last read character after n milliseconds when the character was read by character review commands, E.G. left and right arrow keys, left, current or right character review commands, ETC.
Read the character description instead of the current character. This feature must be enabled or disabled manually and will be deactivated when NVDA is closed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3q51767illr4gia/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

Hi Sameer,

 

NVDA can give you phonetic pronunciation, but the execution is slightly different.  If you press many NVDA keystrokes once, they will read the information, twice quickly spells it, and three times quickly spells it phonetically.  For instance, if you press NVDA+up arrow (or NVDA+l if using laptop keyboard layout), NVDA will read the current line.  If you press it twice quickly, it will spell the current line, and if you press it three times quickly it will spell it phonetically.

 

For words, press numpad 5 or NVDA+control+dot

For the current character, press numpad 2 or NVDA+dot

 

(For those thinking ahead, yes they report the word or character at the review cursor, but anyone not already familiar with that probably isn't moving the review cursor independently of the caret too often).

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Sameer Latey <salatey@...> wrote:

Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak
the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G
in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


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Sameer Latey

 

 

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First, I will admit that I am as guilty as anyone in going down the Windows 11 discussion rabbit hole today, so no one should take the following personally.

We really can't be having general Windows 11 discussions on the NVDA main group.  There will be plenty of, "I can't seem to get NVDA to do <thing X> under Windows 11," discussions, which are on topic, but the feature set of Windows 11, whether we as individuals like them, or not, or even discussions regarding whether hardware is compatible with NVDA are not on-topic for the group.

These discussions are just fine on the Chat Subgroup or, if you really want to get into Q & A about Windows 11 as a screen reader user, join the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group (Formerly: Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group)

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I'm using win11 and here is the case with systray with both NVDA and

jaws 2022 beta

Using NVDA:

Windows B command works the same as it is with win10, maybe a little

less consistent using NVDA, like you need to re do the command to get

it working.

using NVDA and the systray add-on, almost not working it just

highlights a single icon, E.G dropbox, arrow keys or 1st letter no go.

Using jaws 2022:

windows B command works the same as it is with win10

insert plus F11 works the same as well.

so hopefully soon NVDA systray  add-on developers would figure it just the same.

BTW the way to enable an app icon in the system tray with win11 is a

bit different from that in win10, not difficult but different.

TC

On 10/5/21, Ali Savas <ali-savas@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

> 

> I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all

> icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and

> only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

> 

> Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

> 

> Thanks in advance for your answer.

> 

> Many greetings

> Ali

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

> 

No grouped icons option here but, you can enable each app icon in
the system tray using NVDA, by tab onetime then press
ALT plus enter
Then use the tab button until you get to
taskbar overflow grouping setting collapsed
press the spacebar on it, that would open a list of installed apps to
enable in the system tray individually.
TC


On 10/5/21, Ali Savas <ali-savas@...> wrote:

Hi,

Grouped icons were not introduced with Windows 11. All icons are already
grouped in Windows 10 as well. However, you can set the taskbar settings
to always show all icons and set the grouping to "Never". With Windows
11, however, this should no longer be possible.

For this reason I ask if you can also access these grouped icons with NVDA.

Ali

Hello all,

I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all
icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and
only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

Many greetings
Ali

Hi,

Grouped icons were not introduced with Windows 11. All icons are already
grouped in Windows 10 as well. However, you can set the taskbar settings
to always show all icons and set the grouping to "Never". With Windows
11, however, this should no longer be possible.

For this reason I ask if you can also access these grouped icons with NVDA.

Ali

I'm using win11 and here is the case with systray with both NVDA and
jaws 2022 beta

Using NVDA:
Windows B command works the same as it is with win10, maybe a little
less consistent using NVDA, like you need to re do the command to get
it working.
using NVDA and the systray add-on, almost not working it just
highlights a single icon, E.G dropbox, arrow keys or 1st letter no go.

Using jaws 2022:
windows B command works the same as it is with win10
insert plus F11 works the same as well.
so hopefully soon NVDA systray add-on developers would figure it just the same.
BTW the way to enable an app icon in the system tray with win11 is a
bit different from that in win10, not difficult but different.
TC
On 10/5/21, Ali Savas <ali-savas@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all
icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and
only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

Many greetings
Ali

Hello all,

I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all
icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and
only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

Many greetings
Ali

The first thing I would want to know is where you read this. I have no opinion about whether it is correct, but I’m very careful about what sources I trust information from in cases like this. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Ali Savas
Sent: October 5, 2021 10:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons

 

Hello all,

 

I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all

icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and

only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

 

Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer.

 

Many greetings

Ali

 

 

 

 

 

Yes mac does have a system tray.

Seriously? Ali, that’s strange. I believe you about the system tray.  Is Microsoft seriously trying to be like Apple? Not sure about apple, I know people who use it. I’ll ask if it has a system tray like Windows.

Sent from Mail for Windows

Hello all,

I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all

icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and

only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.

Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?

Thanks in advance for your answer.

Many greetings

Ali