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Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Chris
 

And what about those of us who cannot use their right hand???

Or is your opinion tough shit to those of have only the use  of one hand

As long as you dont have to press  a key twice, sod everybody else

 

 

 

From: Rowen Cary
Sent: 12 November 2021 04:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

 

Hi All,

I think we need to improve the caps lock key, Since the function of the NVDA key is to cooperate with other keys to trigger a certain function, pressing the caps lock key once has no meaning for NVDA. Can we return it to the operating system for processing? This way we don’t need to quickly press Caps Lock twice every time we switch between upper and lower case. Some screen reader is already doing this, and the user experience is very good. I think NVDA can also do this, or even better.

Thanks!

 


Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Rowen Cary
 

Hi, I did not find a similar issue on github


Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

Great interview.  But, I could do without the background music!  It wasn’t too loud or energetic, I just don’t like distractions to hearing the main thing.  And that is the words we hear.  It is especially important with interviewees who do not have English as their first language. 

 

I loved hearing Bhavya’s voice and his wonderful story.  I didn’t think this type of interview was too long. 

 

I think both of you did very well with questions and answers and I look forward to the next one.  By the way, quentin, you have an interesting voice too!   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Hi everyone,

 

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:

 

 

As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

I may record something for the user experiences thing and send that.



On 12/11/2021 4:46 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Udit,

Yes please do write to me off list.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:42 PM udit pandey <udit52805@...> wrote:
hay can I also share my experience with nvda?


On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 09:09, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:

Wow!

 

I just read part 1.

A wonderful story for sure.

 

Is Joseph Lee also attending Stanford this year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Its always good to have another user story out there.

Just converting this vid to audio to listen to it now.

 

 

On 12/11/2021 1:16 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:

 

 

As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Training and Support Manager

 



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Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Sarah k Alawami
 

Is this issue on github, if it is I’ll give it a thumbs up.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rowen Cary
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

 

Hi All,

I think we need to improve the caps lock key, Since the function of the NVDA key is to cooperate with other keys to trigger a certain function, pressing the caps lock key once has no meaning for NVDA. Can we return it to the operating system for processing? This way we don’t need to quickly press Caps Lock twice every time we switch between upper and lower case. Some screen reader is already doing this, and the user experience is very good. I think NVDA can also do this, or even better.

Thanks!


Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Rowen Cary
 

Hi All,

I think we need to improve the caps lock key, Since the function of the NVDA key is to cooperate with other keys to trigger a certain function, pressing the caps lock key once has no meaning for NVDA. Can we return it to the operating system for processing? This way we don’t need to quickly press Caps Lock twice every time we switch between upper and lower case. Some screen reader is already doing this, and the user experience is very good. I think NVDA can also do this, or even better.

Thanks!


Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Hi,

Nope - I have learned long ago that it is far better to look at the reputation of a school/department/discipline before choosing where I get my degree. I think what makes a difference for students is not the name or brand of the school but the faculty and other students who collectively decide the reputation of an institution. Stanford University is a great school as it is a well-known school in computer science discipline and have a solid research record. On the other hand, I am currently attending a public university in California and am looking at several universities across the country as I prepare my Ph.D. application packet (which, among other things, include grades and curriculum vitae (CV)).

My own NVDA story is not as exciting as others, but suffice to say that my volunteer experience gave me one reason for going beyond master's degree education. Speaking of that, I'm part of a roundtable panel at an academic conference on human communication that will discuss nonprofit organization research after the pandemic, and that to me is sort of my last public-facing task as NVDA contributor (there is one more thing I need to do, a subject of my next post).

Having known Bavyah for years, I'm confident that he can make a lasting impact with his studies and service to this community.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New member needing help

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Hi, Gene. Yes, you're right. There are some podcasts I can use. Also, I downloaded a 130-page NVDA user guide. Maybe all this could be helpful.


----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2021 13:34
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help

If you are completely new to Windows and NVdA, you need organized teaching about Windows and, depending on how you are going to use it, some organized teaching about NVDA.  You can learn a small amount about any screen-reader such as how to control the rate of speech, read the title bar, and a small number of other commands, and do a great deal if you know Windows basics.

 

I don't know how much money you want to spend nor do I know if the NVDA instructional material mainly teaches NVDA or both Windows and NVDA.  but a good knowledge of Windows is more important in many ways than a detailed knowledge of NVDA, especially when you aren't doing things that require an advanced knowledge of NVDA.  It is far more important in the beginning to learn Windows well than a lot about a screen-reader.

 

I would say to get as standard a keyboard as possible, based on what you have said in terms of what you appear to need to learn.  I don't know anything about the other keyboard you are asking about and those who know it may disagree with me. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Viris g. Rodríguez

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:21 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help

 

Hello, Tracy. I've already done that. I would have to assign key combinations to each command. The thing is that I'm completely new to Windows and NVDA. So I feel lost.
Thanks for everything.
Sincerely.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2021 09:25
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help

Hi. I have the Orbit Writer and like it. I read and write only in English. You may want to phone Orbit Research and speak with them directly.


Tracy


On 2021-11-10 9:18 p.m., Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I'm Viris Rodríguez and I live in Mexico City.
About a month ago, I bought the InsideOne tablet manufactured by InsideVision. I thought I would be able to get used to the touch screen but I couldn't. Silly, I know.
However, I don't want to give it back because I'm not gonna beg Freedomscientific nor Eurobraille. So, I've been looking for an external keyboard to control my tablet.
I've recently found the orbit writer, which I really like. But, according to the user guide, it has no NVDA commands to control Windows. I've also checked some qwerty keyboards like the Macally FRcompactkey but I was told it only supported US English.
As far as I know, NVDA supports several languages. Is it possible to configure NVDA to enter Spanish characters using a qwerty keyboard?
Should I buy the orbit writer or a standard qwerty keyboard?
I'm sorry to bother you. Any help would be really appreciated.
Sincerely.

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Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

Quentin Christensen
 

Udit,

Yes please do write to me off list.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:42 PM udit pandey <udit52805@...> wrote:
hay can I also share my experience with nvda?


On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 09:09, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:

Wow!

 

I just read part 1.

A wonderful story for sure.

 

Is Joseph Lee also attending Stanford this year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Its always good to have another user story out there.

Just converting this vid to audio to listen to it now.

 

 

On 12/11/2021 1:16 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:

 

 

As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

udit pandey
 

hay can I also share my experience with nvda?


On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 09:09, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:

Wow!

 

I just read part 1.

A wonderful story for sure.

 

Is Joseph Lee also attending Stanford this year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Its always good to have another user story out there.

Just converting this vid to audio to listen to it now.

 

 

On 12/11/2021 1:16 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:

 

 

As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

Monte Single
 

Wow!

 

I just read part 1.

A wonderful story for sure.

 

Is Joseph Lee also attending Stanford this year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Its always good to have another user story out there.

Just converting this vid to audio to listen to it now.

 

 

On 12/11/2021 1:16 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:

 

 

As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

 

Its always good to have another user story out there.

Just converting this vid to audio to listen to it now.



On 12/11/2021 1:16 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:


As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Interview with Bhavya Shah - part 1

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Today I am excited to bring you another in our NVDA user stories series - this one the start of its own series!  I chatted with community contributor Bhavya Shah recently, about how he came to NVDA and how he uses it, and some of the many other aspects of his busy life.  It was such a great interview, that we didn't want to cut too much out to keep it short, so instead we're making it a three part series.  Part 1 is available now:


As always I'm interested in feedback, but also particularly this time, on the longer series format and whether that works for you or not?

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: An issue I’m having with a web form at work

 

Have you tried CTRL + spacebar as your select/deselect toggle for an individual item without losing those already selected?
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An issue I’m having with a web form at work

Khalid Anwar
 

Imagine you open up a drop-down menu, and it brings up a list and you have to select multiple elements from this list.
The way a sighted person would do it is by holding down the control key and then pressing the left mouse button, this would highlight/select the necessary element without clicking on it, however when I press enter on one of the elements, it automatically wishes to submit the web form.
Is there any way around this?
I’m thinking about asking the IT department to make all the separate elements into their own checkboxes.


Re: Can NVDA be placed in a default directory when creating a portable version?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Right, it's a catch 22. I hav ealways made it a habit to choose a folder with anything, not sure if it was my computer teacher who drilled it into me or all the years I've pulled out all of my hair, lol!


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On 11 Nov 2021, at 10:12, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 12:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually for me when I create a portable copy in a folder 

Key words here:  "in a folder"

If you designate a folder all of the portable NVDA content uses that folder as its "root folder" and gets created under it.

The problem here seems to be that many (and I hasten to add this is not saying they're wrong) are unaccustomed to actually specifying a folder in which to place something and that when you pick just a drive, it's going to use the root folder of that drive as its starting point.  Thus, if you already have files and folders at the root level of the drive you're using, the NVDA portable copy has its files at the root level and the folders it creates there as well.

To me, there is no "right way" for NVDA to do this, as many are accustomed to the idea that they must specify a folder on a drive, and if they don't, the root folder of the drive will be used, and very often that's precisely what's wanted so that you don't have to "drill down" in the folder structure of that drive to fire up your portable copy.

If NVDA were to create a subfolder then users would have to know what that subfolder was named (NVDA being the obvious choice).  But they'd then have to navigate to that folder to fire up NVDA portable.

I'm agnostic about whether or not a dedicated folder were created, because either choice has a class of users it's going to give consternation to.

One of the first things I try to teach my clients, and my partner (who seems to be a lost cause on this), is that you never "just allow" whatever it is to choose its own location.  You take the time to browse so that, even if you elect to use whatever location it is that's chosen as the default, you are aware of exactly where that thing is going to be created or saved.  Very often, it's not where you'd think, and then you have control over where it gets put.

When I go to create a portable copy from an already installed instance of NVDA, the first thing it asks is for you to specify the path, whether by typing it out or browsing (which is what I always do), and then checking which of the other two option checkboxes you may wish before hitting the Continue button.  Right there you have the power to choose precisely where you wish to have the portable copy created.
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Re: New member needing help

Gene
 

If you are completely new to Windows and NVdA, you need organized teaching about Windows and, depending on how you are going to use it, some organized teaching about NVDA.  You can learn a small amount about any screen-reader such as how to control the rate of speech, read the title bar, and a small number of other commands, and do a great deal if you know Windows basics.
 
I don’t know how much money you want to spend nor do I know if the NVDA instructional material mainly teaches NVDA or both Windows and NVDA.  but a good knowledge of Windows is more important in many ways than a detailed knowledge of NVDA, especially when you aren’t doing things that require an advanced knowledge of NVDA.  It is far more important in the beginning to learn Windows well than a lot about a screen-reader.
 
I would say to get as standard a keyboard as possible, based on what you have said in terms of what you appear to need to learn.  I don’t know anything about the other keyboard you are asking about and those who know it may disagree with me. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help
 
Hello, Tracy. I've already done that. I would have to assign key combinations to each command. The thing is that I'm completely new to Windows and NVDA. So I feel lost.
Thanks for everything.
Sincerely.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2021 09:25
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help

Hi. I have the Orbit Writer and like it. I read and write only in English. You may want to phone Orbit Research and speak with them directly.


Tracy


On 2021-11-10 9:18 p.m., Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I'm Viris Rodríguez and I live in Mexico City.
About a month ago, I bought the InsideOne tablet manufactured by InsideVision. I thought I would be able to get used to the touch screen but I couldn't. Silly, I know.
However, I don't want to give it back because I'm not gonna beg Freedomscientific nor Eurobraille. So, I've been looking for an external keyboard to control my tablet.
I've recently found the orbit writer, which I really like. But, according to the user guide, it has no NVDA commands to control Windows. I've also checked some qwerty keyboards like the Macally FRcompactkey but I was told it only supported US English.
As far as I know, NVDA supports several languages. Is it possible to configure NVDA to enter Spanish characters using a qwerty keyboard?
Should I buy the orbit writer or a standard qwerty keyboard?
I'm sorry to bother you. Any help would be really appreciated.
Sincerely.


Re: New member needing help

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Hello, Tracy. I've already done that. I would have to assign key combinations to each command. The thing is that I'm completely new to Windows and NVDA. So I feel lost.
Thanks for everything.
Sincerely.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2021 09:25
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member needing help

Hi. I have the Orbit Writer and like it. I read and write only in English. You may want to phone Orbit Research and speak with them directly.


Tracy


On 2021-11-10 9:18 p.m., Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I'm Viris Rodríguez and I live in Mexico City.
About a month ago, I bought the InsideOne tablet manufactured by InsideVision. I thought I would be able to get used to the touch screen but I couldn't. Silly, I know.
However, I don't want to give it back because I'm not gonna beg Freedomscientific nor Eurobraille. So, I've been looking for an external keyboard to control my tablet.
I've recently found the orbit writer, which I really like. But, according to the user guide, it has no NVDA commands to control Windows. I've also checked some qwerty keyboards like the Macally FRcompactkey but I was told it only supported US English.
As far as I know, NVDA supports several languages. Is it possible to configure NVDA to enter Spanish characters using a qwerty keyboard?
Should I buy the orbit writer or a standard qwerty keyboard?
I'm sorry to bother you. Any help would be really appreciated.
Sincerely.

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Re: Can NVDA be placed in a default directory when creating a portable version?

 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 12:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually for me when I create a portable copy in a folder 

Key words here:  "in a folder"

If you designate a folder all of the portable NVDA content uses that folder as its "root folder" and gets created under it.

The problem here seems to be that many (and I hasten to add this is not saying they're wrong) are unaccustomed to actually specifying a folder in which to place something and that when you pick just a drive, it's going to use the root folder of that drive as its starting point.  Thus, if you already have files and folders at the root level of the drive you're using, the NVDA portable copy has its files at the root level and the folders it creates there as well.

To me, there is no "right way" for NVDA to do this, as many are accustomed to the idea that they must specify a folder on a drive, and if they don't, the root folder of the drive will be used, and very often that's precisely what's wanted so that you don't have to "drill down" in the folder structure of that drive to fire up your portable copy.

If NVDA were to create a subfolder then users would have to know what that subfolder was named (NVDA being the obvious choice).  But they'd then have to navigate to that folder to fire up NVDA portable.

I'm agnostic about whether or not a dedicated folder were created, because either choice has a class of users it's going to give consternation to.

One of the first things I try to teach my clients, and my partner (who seems to be a lost cause on this), is that you never "just allow" whatever it is to choose its own location.  You take the time to browse so that, even if you elect to use whatever location it is that's chosen as the default, you are aware of exactly where that thing is going to be created or saved.  Very often, it's not where you'd think, and then you have control over where it gets put.

When I go to create a portable copy from an already installed instance of NVDA, the first thing it asks is for you to specify the path, whether by typing it out or browsing (which is what I always do), and then checking which of the other two option checkboxes you may wish before hitting the Continue button.  Right there you have the power to choose precisely where you wish to have the portable copy created.
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Re: Can NVDA be placed in a default directory when creating a portable version?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually for me when I create a portable copy in a folder  I believe it is all unified.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rowen Cary
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 5:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Can NVDA be placed in a default directory when creating a portable version?

 

Many people who create a portable version of NVDA for the first time think that they have placed the files in a unified directory, but this is not the case. They will find that the newly created NVDA contains multiple files, which are scattered in a folder. this is bad.

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