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Re: Problem while connected orbit reader with USB Hid Mode... with latest nvda version

Ali Colak
 

Hello.
I am having the same problem, and am wondering if there is a solution?

On 7/28/21, Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:
Hello, Have you checked

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 4:12 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

The ability to let NVDA detect braille displays using USB human interface
device (HID) mode is being investigated by NV Access.

Cheers,

Joseph






Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released

Gene
 

I suspect it would happen if you were using an e-mail program and reading e-mail as HTML since evidently the language tag is coming from one or more users.  the page itself isn’t generating the tag or the whole page would display improperly.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released
 
Hi.  I'm using the web interface to interact with my groups, so the fact that the computer may be detecting another language makes sense.

Louise


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I'm using the web interface to interact with my groups, so the fact that the computer may be detecting another language makes sense.

Louise


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released

Gene
 

I don’t know why the whole thread would read this way but if you are reading mail in HTMl and someone is using HTML that indicates that a language other than English is used, you will get this sort of behavior.  You will get this sort of behavior on web pages as well.  HTML is supposed to contain a language tag.  From what you say, someone may be writing in English while having the computer set to another language so you get the conflict you are describing.  That is what I infer from your message.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released
 
Hi.  This is not directly related to the topic under discussion, but this entire thread seems to be reading in a different language.  I had to turn "Automatic Language detection" off because it was reading common symbols like SPACE, COLON, and NUMBER in a different language.  I've had this happen with other threads on occasion, but I don't have the direct links.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 RC1 released

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  This is not directly related to the topic under discussion, but this entire thread seems to be reading in a different language.  I had to turn "Automatic Language detection" off because it was reading common symbols like SPACE, COLON, and NUMBER in a different language.  I've had this happen with other threads on occasion, but I don't have the direct links.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA Features feedback

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Just to reiterate what Brian said - the original message was my attempt to capture some casual comments as feedback - and it wasn't originally intended to be sent to the list.  But we do of course always value feedback and the end of the year is the perfect time to think about where we've been and where we are going, so let's continue the impromptu exercise of thinking about what broad direction you'd like to see NVDA move in / where we can get better / etc.  Not promising anything, but it's always worth reflecting.  And of course if you do have any specifics which would be suitable to write up as an issue, then GitHub, as Brian indicated, is the best place to record it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues - (Maybe create the GitHub issue, then come back and mention the idea here with a link to the issue - it's really important that any followup on issues, is done ON the issue itself - not everyone who might action an issue is here in the group, or they might miss a key message or two).

Meanwhile, I am on leave, so despite encouraging the conversation, I probably won't participate in it much for the rest of the year).

Once again, have a great Christmas and New Year and I look forward to seeing how the conversation has developed in the new year!

Quentin.


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Re: NVDA Features feedback

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Christo


I totally agree with you on that. My talk back on my phone can label un labled buttons etc and there are programs out there that need it to use it..The only addons I am aware of is one called object enhancer which can be downloaded from my drop box at https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqnooxmas5utw70/objEnhancer_2019.2beta1_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0

It works with nvda at present I would have to check with the latest update.


Some part of it need updating but am sure the guy who done it does not want to take it any further.


The other one is the golden cursor where it lets you label hot spots I have used it on a  scanner with un labled buttons but to get to them you use the elements list no biggy.


Gene nz


On 15/12/2021 3:53 am, Christo de Klerk wrote:

This has been mentioned already, but I mention it again, as I think this feature is really needed and long overdue: the ability to label unlabelled or poorly labelled controls and graphics. This is one area where NVDA lags way behind other screen readers. Even the late Window-Eyes had this feature.


Kind regards


Christo



On 2021/12/14 04:45pm, Gene wrote:
I’ve asked about these things before and I don’t recall getting an answer.  My question is whether these things either can’t be implemented because of technical reasons or are very hard to implement for those reasons.  I think they are very important.  One is the ability to create what JAWS calls frames and what Window-eyes called windows and hyperactive windows.  Either way, their function is that you define a part of the screen, then set the screen-reader to do something when a condition or conditions are met.  for example, when a certain word or phrase appears in that part of the screen, to take an action, which may be to read the defined window or to cause something to be done other than that.  I haven’t looked at frames for years and I don’t recall the different options.  But this is a very important ability in making NVDA user definable.
 
The other is the ability to define graphics, using a graphics dictionary so that a graphic is spoken when you are on it, such as download.  Now, if the graphic is unknown, no information is given.  The user may need sighted help to know the function of the graphic but it then can be made to speak its function.
 
These abilities would benefit many people but would be of particular use in education and work environments. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback
 

Hello!

 

1 - Better support for Libre Office or Open Office;

2 - Possibility of easily label controls not labelled by develloper;

3 - Better control of what is announced by pressing a key. Take as example Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 04:00 de 14/12/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
I've collated the feedback I've gotten so far from Derek, Bhavya and Joseph.  I've included an overview below and a spreadsheet attached with the full responses:
 
Bhavya:
3 Areas:
- Microsoft Office support (content creation but did not elaborate) and responsiveness
- Freezes and crashes (frustratingly again without examples)
- Portable copies - no issues with it, it's one thing he has observed people LOVE about NVDA and suggests if there are suggestions or ways we could improve this, it would be worthwhile.


Derek:
- Web and Browse mode improvements, especially for modern features such as infinite lists, and why does a tree view hide everything from Browse mode?  Also not tolerant enough of where people have incorrectly marked things up which inadvertently make it impossible for all but very advanced users to navigate.
- Integration with other AT such as speech (input?) and switch access, building on things such as dictation bridge.  (Incorporated praise for features such as sticky keys out of the box which we are the only screen reader to do apparently).
- "Computer Vision" to do things like auto label buttons, auto OCR, present hidden content etc
- since live region abuse is so common, add the ability to block a live region.
- Better support for Google docs, eg quick nav mode.
- Start doing more with the speech refactor we put so much effort into.  For instance to replace some speech with earcons.
- Windows store version - both to prove we are modern and worthy of Windows continued support, and to reassure companies worried about security.

Joseph Lee:
- What we did well in 2021 was communication and keeping up with technology, and with improvements to documentation of issues etc, and our improvements to Office.
- Listening to stakeholders and especially the movement towards the add-on store is another great achievement.

Two key areas for 2022:
- Communication: More documentation through source code
- Research relevance (mostly in terms of people who are researching us or the history of screen readers?)

Anatoliy (Thinking and will get back to me)
 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

cisco
 

Hello there,


Thanks for that little update, I appreciate that.


Microsoft's own OCR does not retain formatting indeed, and unfortunately, as far as I know, there's no free OCR which does.


Best regards.

Francisco.

On 12/14/2021 7:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
They are updating the add on for flat bed scanners, it uses Microsoft OCR and I think it does not retain formatting. It is only for text output.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hello there,


This add-on does seem quite useful, though I have a question, three
actually:


1. Does it use Tesseract as the OCR engine or does it use Microsoft's
OCR engine integrated into Windows?


2. Would there be anyway to keep the formatting of the source file?


3. Would there be a way to integrate acquiring a source to be recognized
with any scanner?


Thanks for any answer.


best regards.

Francisco.

On 12/14/2021 9:26 AM, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 13/12/2021 17:41, Milton Charlton ha scritto:
Does NAO make a document file from this OCR process? If so, what is
the file type and where would the file be located?
Hello,
thank you for your feedback, really useful.
At this moment Nao is not able to save recognized data. There is no
created document, so if you want to save something, you should use
your clipboard.
I think in 2 or 3 week we will release a new version with a text
dialog window with the capability to save contents.
Best regards.













locked Re: Mostly used words in My text

 

By the way, I am going to lock this topic now, as it's really not about NVDA.

I have created the topic, Word Frequency Count Generation in MS-Word, in the Chat Subgroup for continuation of this discussion.  It gives a direct link back to this topic for anyone who may need to "get up to speed" on what has already been said.
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locked Re: Mostly used words in My text

 

Received from Greg Maxey less than two hours after my initial report:

Thanks for the feedback.  Not sure if I can do anything about that or not but I will try to take a look at it ASAP.  I am getting ready for a short trip this week so it could be a week or more.  If you don’t hear back and think to, you can shoot me a reminder in a week or so.

I'll keep the cohort posted as events do, or do not, progress.  
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA Features feedback

Roberto Perez
 

In addition, if we could find a way to share those definition files with the community, there is a powerful aid right there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

 

Sometimes you need sighted help.  If a sighted person tells you what a button is, you could name it.  And sometimes, moving the virtual mouse to a button brings up a tool tip and if you have announce tool tips on in NVDA, you will hear what the button is.  Then you can name it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

 

I find the option to name the buttons useless as we don't know the names of the buttons

 

Em ter., 14 de dez. de 2021 às 13:48, Roberto Perez <rober555x@...> escreveu:

Thanks Brian. I will offer my 3 cents then.
1. Extend browse mode support to desktop apps with the ability to interact with elements and use quick navigation keys. It would be similar to what is already possible with scan mode with the OBJ Pad add-on, but integrated in the core and more aligned with NVDA's browse mode. This would make navigating and accessing information a more standard process despite native keyboard support, especially as UIA support improves across apps and frameworks. Once app developers have the ability to tap into this more powerful unified browse mode, the possibilities are endless.
2. give the user more control over which settings are saved to different profiles. Right now NVDA only saves changes to the active profile whether that is desired or not, leading to inconvenient situations. for example, I maintain profiles for multiple apps and situations with very specific settings. If I am in a meeting and I change the speech volume using the synth ring, that change will be automatically saved to the profile for the application in focus, so I end up having different volume levels for different apps. the same happens to the temporary screen curtain. If I enable it while the active window corresponds to an application for which I have an active profile, screen curtain will get disabled as soon as I press alt +Tab and another profile becomes active.
3. When an app module includes its own keyboard commands, provide a standard way to the add-on developer to provide supporting documentation that can be accessed by the user from the app itself, or a standard menu with actions that can be invoked by the user. For example, if I am in Excel, and I don't remember the NVDA command to save a title definition for row and column headers, my only option is to go to the NVDA help and explore the user guide or the commands quick Reference, which is not efficient.

I hope this helps.


Re: NVDA Features feedback

Gene
 

Sometimes you need sighted help.  If a sighted person tells you what a button is, you could name it.  And sometimes, moving the virtual mouse to a button brings up a tool tip and if you have announce tool tips on in NVDA, you will hear what the button is.  Then you can name it.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback
 
I find the option to name the buttons useless as we don't know the names of the buttons
 
Em ter., 14 de dez. de 2021 às 13:48, Roberto Perez <rober555x@...> escreveu:
Thanks Brian. I will offer my 3 cents then.
1. Extend browse mode support to desktop apps with the ability to interact with elements and use quick navigation keys. It would be similar to what is already possible with scan mode with the OBJ Pad add-on, but integrated in the core and more aligned with NVDA's browse mode. This would make navigating and accessing information a more standard process despite native keyboard support, especially as UIA support improves across apps and frameworks. Once app developers have the ability to tap into this more powerful unified browse mode, the possibilities are endless.
2. give the user more control over which settings are saved to different profiles. Right now NVDA only saves changes to the active profile whether that is desired or not, leading to inconvenient situations. for example, I maintain profiles for multiple apps and situations with very specific settings. If I am in a meeting and I change the speech volume using the synth ring, that change will be automatically saved to the profile for the application in focus, so I end up having different volume levels for different apps. the same happens to the temporary screen curtain. If I enable it while the active window corresponds to an application for which I have an active profile, screen curtain will get disabled as soon as I press alt +Tab and another profile becomes active.
3. When an app module includes its own keyboard commands, provide a standard way to the add-on developer to provide supporting documentation that can be accessed by the user from the app itself, or a standard menu with actions that can be invoked by the user. For example, if I am in Excel, and I don't remember the NVDA command to save a title definition for row and column headers, my only option is to go to the NVDA help and explore the user guide or the commands quick Reference, which is not efficient.

I hope this helps.


locked Re: Mostly used words in My text

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 11:12 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Another VBA macro that may (or may not, as I have not assessed either the above or this one for accessibility) be preferable due to its user interface was written by Greg Moxey, and can be found for download at the end of this article: Word Usage & Frequency Report
-
By the way, I decided to test this solution out, if a frequency list is what you're looking for, and I have to say it is spectacular and spectacularly accessible with one small exception, which I'll get to.

The ZIP file he gives for download includes two different MS-Word macro-enabled templates, one for older versions of word that use the DOT file format and one for the newer, that use the DOTX file format.  I only played with the latter which, if you activate it, opens a blank document with the macro add-in, but with macros disabled.  You have to enable them in order for the add-in to be functional.  If you intend to use this DOTX file repeatedly, it might make sense to open the DOTX file directly, then resave it under another name, as I believe that macro-enabled files you have created and saved will not give you the macro content disabled warning each time you activate them to create a file.  I could be wrong about that.

The Add-In actually is accessible from the Add-In tab in word, which appears when a document is generated using this template.  You get to that by hitting ALT + X.  If there is only one add-in, and that's the case here, you can then hit Y after having hit ALT + X and the macro is invoked with its dialog.  I am not going to explain the dialog, as it is reasonably self-explanatory, and you need to play with the options.  I will say that unless the radio buttons are activated for word exclusion and/or limiting words actually frequency indexed, the text boxes that allow you to enter your pipe-separated lists of same will not be accessible.  You are only allowed in the edit box if the option is chosen.

After hitting the OK button at the bottom, and I'll presume you elected to use the option to create a separate document that will contain your frequency count for the document you're actually working on, the processing will occur and then the frequency count document will open.  Here is where the accessibility issue comes in.  When that document opens, so does a dialog box telling you that processing is complete, but that dialog box is, for some reason, never given focus.  Unless you dismiss it, you cannot begin reading your word frequency table.  I have had the best luck just by hitting ALT + F4 to close it.  There may be other better techniques to gain focus on it and hit the OK button, and I leave that to others to share what they've found.

I have reported this accessibility issue to the original developer, and there might be a fix eventually, but even as it stands it really doesn't prevent the use of what he's created so long as you know that "invisible dialog" is there and that you need to dismiss it prior to having access to your word frequency table in the generated document.  If I do hear back from the developer, I will share what he's said here.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA Features feedback

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 01:04 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
I find the option to name the buttons useless as we don't know the names of the buttons
-
You know, there are times where asking a sighted assistant, then applying a label that will then stick, is necessary.  It's really, really handy to have that capability.  And it's the very reason it was created.

It's very often a three second ask for a sighted ID, and however long it then takes you to apply the label via the screen reader.  You sometimes never get a fix if you report the issue to the developer, and if it's only one odd button or two that are problematic, it makes no sense to throw a perfectly good baby out with the bathwater when a functional workaround is available.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 


Re: NVDA Features feedback

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

I find the option to name the buttons useless as we don't know the names of the buttons

Em ter., 14 de dez. de 2021 às 13:48, Roberto Perez <rober555x@...> escreveu:

Thanks Brian. I will offer my 3 cents then.
1. Extend browse mode support to desktop apps with the ability to interact with elements and use quick navigation keys. It would be similar to what is already possible with scan mode with the OBJ Pad add-on, but integrated in the core and more aligned with NVDA's browse mode. This would make navigating and accessing information a more standard process despite native keyboard support, especially as UIA support improves across apps and frameworks. Once app developers have the ability to tap into this more powerful unified browse mode, the possibilities are endless.
2. give the user more control over which settings are saved to different profiles. Right now NVDA only saves changes to the active profile whether that is desired or not, leading to inconvenient situations. for example, I maintain profiles for multiple apps and situations with very specific settings. If I am in a meeting and I change the speech volume using the synth ring, that change will be automatically saved to the profile for the application in focus, so I end up having different volume levels for different apps. the same happens to the temporary screen curtain. If I enable it while the active window corresponds to an application for which I have an active profile, screen curtain will get disabled as soon as I press alt +Tab and another profile becomes active.
3. When an app module includes its own keyboard commands, provide a standard way to the add-on developer to provide supporting documentation that can be accessed by the user from the app itself, or a standard menu with actions that can be invoked by the user. For example, if I am in Excel, and I don't remember the NVDA command to save a title definition for row and column headers, my only option is to go to the NVDA help and explore the user guide or the commands quick Reference, which is not efficient.

I hope this helps.


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Sarah k Alawami
 

They are updating the add on for flat bed scanners, it uses Microsoft OCR and I think it does not retain formatting. It is only for text output.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hello there,


This add-on does seem quite useful, though I have a question, three
actually:


1. Does it use Tesseract as the OCR engine or does it use Microsoft's
OCR engine integrated into Windows?


2. Would there be anyway to keep the formatting of the source file?


3. Would there be a way to integrate acquiring a source to be recognized
with any scanner?


Thanks for any answer.


best regards.

Francisco.

On 12/14/2021 9:26 AM, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 13/12/2021 17:41, Milton Charlton ha scritto:

Does NAO make a document file from this OCR process? If so, what is
the file type and where would the file be located?
Hello,
thank you for your feedback, really useful.
At this moment Nao is not able to save recognized data. There is no
created document, so if you want to save something, you should use
your clipboard.
I think in 2 or 3 week we will release a new version with a text
dialog window with the capability to save contents.
Best regards.






locked Re: NVAccess Confirms: NVDA is NOT vulnerable to Log4j

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

That used to be the case but I think it comes with NVDA these days.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jason Bratcher
Sent: 14 December 2021 15:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Confirmation

 

Java Access Bridge you must install yourself if memory serves me.

 

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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

cisco
 

Hello there,


This add-on does seem quite useful, though I have a question, three actually:


1. Does it use Tesseract as the OCR engine or does it use Microsoft's OCR engine integrated into Windows?


2. Would there be anyway to keep the formatting of the source file?


3. Would there be a way to integrate acquiring a source to be recognized with any scanner?


Thanks for any answer.


best regards.

Francisco.

On 12/14/2021 9:26 AM, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 13/12/2021 17:41, Milton Charlton ha scritto:

Does NAO make a document file from this OCR process? If so, what is the file type and where would the file be located?
Hello,
thank you for your feedback, really useful.
At this moment Nao is not able to save recognized data. There is no created document, so if you want to save something, you should use your clipboard.
I think in 2 or 3 week we will release a new version with a text dialog window with the capability to save contents.
Best regards.





locked Re: Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person

 

At this juncture, our thread drift in this topic has gone on long enough.  I am locking the topic since it hasn't been NVDA-related in a while, but it was interesting enough and had important information that I allowed it to continue.

Further discussion of any one of the points raised after the initial announcement, if such is desired, should take place in a new, and dedicated to one thing, topic on the Chat Subgroup.
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locked Re: Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person

Gene
 

What link are you talking about?  Just going to the site itself isn’t dangerous because advertising isn’t shown until you download something.  I hope you were joking about testing antivirus software in that way unless you know what you are doing. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: tim
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person
 

That link works if you get past the auto advertizing or the window stating you still need flash.

That site has turned itself into a joke, but good to test your virus program.

On 12/14/2021 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
I know Send Space used to be very dangerous.  Years ago, when I became infected, there were people who reported being infected on an e-mail list using good antimalware programs. This was in the early 2000’s and, according to Brian and Jackie, browsers are much more hardened now.  Even so, I still would use the context menu way of saving files while on Send Space.  That way prevents any advertising from running or being displayed.  The download button is actually a link and the context menu’s save as or save link as will work to safely download files. 
 
I believe Brian pointed out a good while ago that the button is actually a link.  I wouldn’t have thought about trying this method otherwise. 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: tim
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person
 

Want a site that will give you something just for downloading or even being on it.

Try sendspace.com

They have become a magnet for every advertised virus there is and they will give you it any way they can. if you don't get anything from them your lucky!

 

On 12/13/2021 6:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I’ve seen cases many years ago and I experienced one myself where just an ad opening automatically downloaded malware to my machine and I did nothing.  From what I’ve read, I don’t think these ads can be necessarily stopped nor that they rely on interaction. 
 
I would use an actual download program such as was discussed earlier.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person
 
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 03:21 PM, Gene wrote:
Regarding this site [www.mp3-now.com], does it have advertising?  If so, do good ad blockers block advertisements from the site?
-
Yes.  Probably some of them, but you do occasionally get a pop-up ad, and almost all of these can be closed with a hit of the ESC key with zero interaction with them.  If you ever get an ad that will not close with either ESC (more common) or ALT + F4 (if it's in its own dedicated window) then you should NOT EVER interact with it.  Close the browser tab or brower window in which it's open.

Ads that will not allow easy and conventional dismissal without interaction should always be considered as malicious and you need to do whatever is necessary to avoid any direct interaction with them, up through and including shutting down or restarting your computer.  If you have Fast Startup enabled then definitely do a Restart.  It's seldom necessary to go that far, but particularly malicious ones that may do multiple pop-ups that make it impossible to outrun them.  You're generally still going to end up OK provided you do not interact with any of the chaos.

I haven't encountered something like the above in a long time, but I have encountered many instances where an ad served up by a website itself can evade ad-blockers, but all of those have allowed the use of Escape to dismiss them.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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