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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Quentin Christensen
Hi Nasrin,
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Glad you like the new features! To the best of my knowledge, this version should still work in Windows XP, we haven't changed our policy on support for XP at least, so if something doesn't work, it's a bug. Re the download link, I can only suggest what the others have, otherwise, if you go to the main http://www.nvaccess.org/ page, and find your way down to the "tweets" heading, the most recent one is the announcement about the rc1 version and contains a link to the same page: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-4rc1-released/ Regards Quentin. -- 22 Point Web: http://www.22point.com.au Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/22Point Twitter: https://twitter.com/22PointApps Check out our first app, RapiTap! - Tap targets fast & avoid decoys: Adrenaline pumping, Challenging, Accessible! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.twentytwopoint.rapitap Free trial: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.twentytwopoint.rapitapfree
On 2 December 2016 at 20:45, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
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Re: ESpeak sounds drastically different at 100 % speed compared to 99 %
hi.
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the best rate is for me the default rate 30 without boost and i realy did not understand the different with high speed. i dont like any speed except the default and even cant understand them!
On 12/2/16, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hello list, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
hi quentin.
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thanks extremely for your great news and excellent changes in this new version! does this version support windows xp like previous one? and also the download link does not work for me too! God bless you and thanks extremely for your great news again!
On 12/2/16, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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ESpeak sounds drastically different at 100 % speed compared to 99 %
Felix G.
Hello list, has anyone else noticed that ESpeak sounds very different upward of a certain rate? The exact values are greater than 99 % in normal operation, and greater than 18 % with rate boost.
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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Brian's Mail list account
Yes indeed some email software does do odd things to links. Also I've noticed on the nvaccess site there seems to be an undetected character to the left of a link which is near the edge of a page on the left.
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This effect occurs on some sites but not on others, so my guess is that it is the rendering in the browser that does it. I always tend to cursor right one char just in case. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released I should add that you may have to move a little above the link, then tab to it to get it to work. When I just press enter on the link when I arrow to it, it does nothing. When I tab to it, it works. I am assuming for this answer that you are viewing mail as html and are pressing enter on the link. The sort of experimentation I described above needs to be done when dealing with links that do nothing. Also, you can copy the link and paste it into the browser's address bar, then press enter. That's another thing to try when a link does nothing. Gene ----- Original Message ------ From: Gary Metzler Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 2:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi Quentin, I am having a real problem trying to download rc1. The download link isn’t working. Thanks for any help. From: Quentin Christensen Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 2:52 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi all, NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2016.4 release. See this blog post for what's new and a download link: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-4rc1-released/ Regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Ph +61 7 3149 3306 Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Gene
I should add that you may have to move a little
above the link, then tab to it to get it to work. When I just press enter
on the link when I arrow to it, it does nothing. When I tab to it, it
works. I am assuming for this answer that you are viewing mail as html and
are pressing enter on the link. The sort of experimentation I
described above needs to be done when dealing with links that do nothing.
Also, you can copy the link and paste it into the browser's address bar, then
press enter. That's another thing to try when a link does
nothing.
Gene
----- Original Message ------
From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi Quentin,
I am having a real problem trying to download rc1. The download link
isn’t working. Thanks for any help.
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 2:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi all, NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2016.4 release. See this blog post for what's new and a download link: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/ Regards
Quentin. Quentin
Christensen
Training Material Developer Basic
Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Gene
The link works. How did you try to follow
it? What happened when you tried?
Gene
From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi Quentin,
I am having a real problem trying to download rc1. The download link
isn’t working. Thanks for any help.
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 2:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi all, NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2016.4 release. See this blog post for what's new and a download link: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/ Regards
Quentin. Quentin
Christensen
Training Material Developer Basic
Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA preferred browser
hi.
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the principles of all browsers with screen readers are the same or at least, near to each others. but i recommend firefox for security, speed, more accessibility, less system resources etc. God bless you all.
On 12/2/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Those sorts of things take very little time to listen to when on web pages --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Hi Quentin,
I am having a real problem trying to download rc1. The download link
isn’t working. Thanks for any help.
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released Hi all,
NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2016.4 release. See this blog post for what's new and a download link: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/ Regards
Quentin. Quentin
Christensen
Training Material Developer Basic
Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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NVDA 2016.4rc1 released
Quentin Christensen
Hi all, NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2016.4 release. See this blog post for what's new and a download link: http://www.nvaccess.org/post/ Regards Quentin. Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: audio ducking not working with speech player and espeek
Quentin Christensen
Where you using a portable version of the snapshot? Audio ducking doesn't work in the portable version, only when you install NVDA to the computer.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: Well I am using 2016.3. I got it to work after all. Before I was using the latest snap shot of nvda and I went back to stable and the audio ducking started to work again. Please make ure you get a ticket for this problem before 2016.4 comes out. --
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Direct: +61 413 904 383 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: audio ducking not working with speech player and espeek
Bobby <bvinton@...>
Well I am using 2016.3. I got it to work after all. Before I was using the latest snap shot of nvda and I went back to stable and the audio ducking started to work again. Please make ure you get a ticket for this problem before 2016.4 comes out.
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On 12/1/2016 11:44 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:
It works just fine here. Which version of speechplayer are you
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Re: audio ducking not working with speech player and espeek
Andre Fisher
It works just fine here. Which version of speechplayer are you
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currently using? Which version of NVDA?
On 12/1/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote:
Hay i am using the latest nvda and I went back to an older version and
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audio ducking not working with speech player and espeek
Bobby <bvinton@...>
Hay i am using the latest nvda and I went back to an older version and saw tht audio ducking won't work with speech player at all. pleese help so I got audio ducking to work with sapi 5 and e speek. Can you pleese let me know what sympths audio ducking will work with. Talk to you all soon
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Re: NVDA preferred browser
Gene
Those sorts of things take very little time to
listen to when on web pages and they are often missed when effective browsing
techniques are used.
gene
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser Yes.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
I'm not sure what you are referring to. Do you mean something that might say something with an extension such as gif? If so, such items are negligible..
Gene ----- Original Messagge ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser
I'm talking about images that you see on some web pages. I don't use webbie that much because I do know how to navigate most web pages.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Gene
If you know how to navigate web pages effectively, what you are discussing isn't a problem. I don't know what you are referring to. You see links and various fields in Webbie as you do in other browsers. I don't know how Webbie describes image links but image links often contain useful information even if they aren't labeled properly. I don't know what you are describing as graphical. Aside from image links and at times, this or that image I may see on screen, I do not see graphical clutter.
Further discussion might allow us to know what you are describing but at present, I don't know.
I don't know what the newer version of Webbie is like. The old version used a very different interface than is now standard in screen-readers when used with browsers.
Webbie used to have a useful place before a capable free screen-reader was available. Before NVDA, free screen-readers were very limited and couldn't work with standard browsers. But those days are long gone.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser
Hi, Quentin,
The nice thing about the webbie browser is that it takes the extra clutter from a site that has graphics. I mainly use internet explorer but I have used firefox or the webbie browser on occasion.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Quentin Christensen
Hi Rosemarie,
You are absolutely correct - and it's not something that's specific to screen reader users either. I haven't looked at Webbie for awhile, I must try it again. I didn't mention Edge originally as the question was specifically related to Windows 7. Our support for Edge has been higher than other screen readers to date, but Edge itself is not yet at a point where we'd recommend it generally.
Regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA preferred browser
Rosemarie Chavarria
Yes.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser
I'm not sure what you are referring to. Do you mean something that might say something with an extension such as gif? If so, such items are negligible..
Gene ----- Original Messagge ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser
I'm talking about images that you see on some web pages. I don't use webbie that much because I do know how to navigate most web pages.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
If you know how to navigate web pages effectively, what you are discussing isn't a problem. I don't know what you are referring to. You see links and various fields in Webbie as you do in other browsers. I don't know how Webbie describes image links but image links often contain useful information even if they aren't labeled properly. I don't know what you are describing as graphical. Aside from image links and at times, this or that image I may see on screen, I do not see graphical clutter.
Further discussion might allow us to know what you are describing but at present, I don't know.
I don't know what the newer version of Webbie is like. The old version used a very different interface than is now standard in screen-readers when used with browsers.
Webbie used to have a useful place before a capable free screen-reader was available. Before NVDA, free screen-readers were very limited and couldn't work with standard browsers. But those days are long gone.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA preferred browser
Hi, Quentin,
The nice thing about the webbie browser is that it takes the extra clutter from a site that has graphics. I mainly use internet explorer but I have used firefox or the webbie browser on occasion.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Hi Rosemarie,
You are absolutely correct - and it's not something that's specific to screen reader users either. I haven't looked at Webbie for awhile, I must try it again. I didn't mention Edge originally as the question was specifically related to Windows 7. Our support for Edge has been higher than other screen readers to date, but Edge itself is not yet at a point where we'd recommend it generally.
Regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA & Microsoft Word Forms
#msftaccessibility
Quentin, Thanks. I got that far, but it's not what I'm remembering. When you do the CTRL+A followed by a CTRL+SHIFT+F9 it does allow me to edit anywhere in the document but the fields themselves remain. I know that there was a way to turn all fields to "regular text" for lack of another term, and it even did something similar for the checkboxes. This is not critical, I'm just annoyed that I did not take the notes that I thought I did. I'm sure I'll find them somewhere about 25 seconds after sending this! Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: NVDA & Microsoft Word Forms
#msftaccessibility
Quentin Christensen
I can get you halfway there: alt+r, zr, pe, enter, shift+F6 to turn off protection (Review ribbon, then protect, then restrict editing, enter to turn off enforcing protection, then shift+f6 to go from the task pane back to the document). To unlink all the fields and turn them back into text: 1. Press Control+a to select all 2. Press Control+shift+f9 to unlink fields. The only caveat is that it doesn't do anything with the checkboxes. NVDA still reads the correct state of the checkbox. Interestingly, I noticed if I copied the text (at any point) to Notepad, it turned each checkbox into 0 if it wasn't checked and 1 if it was. I must confess I've never tried that before.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA & Microsoft Word Forms
#msftaccessibility
Quentin, Thanks for checking and confirming the behavior when the form document template is not in protected mode (and by that I presume you mean protected mode in the trust center, which happens these days to anything you download from the internet or an e-mail attachment unless you turn protected mode off in the trust center). I have been using forms like this with blind and visually impaired clients for quite a while now. They are the perfect solution to, well, the electronic equivalent of paper forms where the end user, sighted or not sighted, is only supposed to fill in the blanks. NVDA and JAWS both read my status bar and help text exactly as I'd expect except for this first field (and I haven't tried it with JAWS 18 yet). They're also quite handy to use for documents that have a huge pre-formatted component but that you might want to tweak certain aspects of the pre-formatted part after filling in what are "set fields." One can completely unprotect a MS-Word form, turning it into a plain word document, but I cannot for the life of me find the appropriate sequence of keyboard commands to do so. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: Possibility of supporting Microsoft Equation?
David Moore
Thanks a lot. I will give that a try! I have heard about Math player, but I have not experimented with it yet. David Moore
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Possibility of supporting Microsoft Equation?
Hi David,
It does work in MathType / MathPlayer from Design Science: http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/
MathPlayer / MathType work in Word, but using their own editor, not the original Microsoft Word editor.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
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