Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
there who can supply answers.

Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.

There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
official release of NVDA.

Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree

Hi



Someone asked me whether NVDA is compatable with Google Classroom.



Can anyone help us with advice?



Regards



Christo ("Worcester South Africa)

FYI, I also just tried Window-Eyes and it's not behaving any differently
than NVDA in what it reads when going through your inbox under Outlook
2010.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"

What exactly is OneNote? What does it do?


Pauline



On 7/28/2016 7:38 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well while not exactly windows10 related, it seems that journal is
being retired because its not secure.
Here's the thing, onenote seems to currently be free and I wander
if the blind can use it.
I don't want or need it exactly but I would be interested if it was
actually usable.



On 29/07/2016 10:58 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Iupgraded to windows 10 almost a year ago and have found that you can do
pretty much the same things as in windows 7.



On 7/28/2016 2:15 PM, Alexander Masic wrote:

I really hate that rumers wich flouting around in the blind community.
for you who is so critical to window 10, explay for me what you can do
in e.g windows 7, but not in windows 10! Igues nothing. everything
works well in window 10 as in windows 7, but some tasks you nead to do
in anothe way. So upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade!!!!!


I have run windows 10 for almost 1 year now and i cant se anything i
really missing.

Yes! off course there is things who nead to be improved, e.g edge and
things like that. However you are able to do easy same things in
windows 10 as in windows 7.

So i,m still waiting from you an explanation from you who is so
critical, an really made propaganda to other blind to not upgrade a
reason why?



Den 2016-07-28 kl. 22:18, skrev Shaun Everiss:

Good luck is all I will say.
The servers will be overloaded with lastcomers and that means a
long wait for all you laters.



On 29/07/2016 4:18 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hi, i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you are at
all
considering upgrading to win 10 you should do it today.
That way for one thing you will not have to worry about having to
even
pay attention to that thing about win 10 being free for users of
assistive technology. I don't know, but i bet the process is a
pain to
do and myself, i just would not want to bother with it.
Not telling yall what to do but if it was me and i did not yet have a
copy of windows 10, i'd be really worried right now. smile.
Have a nice day and good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Scott
Original message:

I would hate to be the person that decides to update after tomorrow.

On 7/28/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
wrote:

Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least
another
month
to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know
how it
knows you are blind.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10

well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.

On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:

Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool
which can
prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the
description.

It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted,
then
after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure
didn't
like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I
wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28.
Juli
2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with
windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it
was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and
chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an
article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is
likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not
being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem,
not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

.

I wouldn't worry about it. You can type messages properly? If so, it's not a big deal.

---

On 7/28/2016 9:44 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I'm noticing that when I start a new message, I'm taken to focus mode now. Is this a new thing now? Just wondering.


Rosemarie

I find a lot of strange things in Thunderbird. The suggestions
for geting to the tree view that shows my accounts don't work.
Apparently Braille does not work well in Thunderbird. I seem to be the
only one using Braille. That is because I am deafblind.

John

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 06:44:44PM -0700, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I'm noticing that when I start a new message, I'm taken to focus mode now.
Is this a new thing now? Just wondering.


Rosemarie

Hi, everyone,


I'm noticing that when I start a new message, I'm taken to focus mode now.
Is this a new thing now? Just wondering.


Rosemarie

Hi, everyone,


I'm noticing that when I start a new message, I'm taken to focus mode now. Is this a new thing now? Just wondering.


Rosemarie

Well while not exactly windows10 related, it seems that journal is being retired because its not secure.
Here's the thing, onenote seems to currently be free and I wander if the blind can use it.
I don't want or need it exactly but I would be interested if it was actually usable.



On 29/07/2016 10:58 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Iupgraded to windows 10 almost a year ago and have found that you can do
pretty much the same things as in windows 7.



On 7/28/2016 2:15 PM, Alexander Masic wrote:

I really hate that rumers wich flouting around in the blind community.
for you who is so critical to window 10, explay for me what you can do
in e.g windows 7, but not in windows 10! Igues nothing. everything
works well in window 10 as in windows 7, but some tasks you nead to do
in anothe way. So upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade!!!!!


I have run windows 10 for almost 1 year now and i cant se anything i
really missing.

Yes! off course there is things who nead to be improved, e.g edge and
things like that. However you are able to do easy same things in
windows 10 as in windows 7.

So i,m still waiting from you an explanation from you who is so
critical, an really made propaganda to other blind to not upgrade a
reason why?



Den 2016-07-28 kl. 22:18, skrev Shaun Everiss:

Good luck is all I will say.
The servers will be overloaded with lastcomers and that means a
long wait for all you laters.



On 29/07/2016 4:18 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hi, i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you are at all
considering upgrading to win 10 you should do it today.
That way for one thing you will not have to worry about having to even
pay attention to that thing about win 10 being free for users of
assistive technology. I don't know, but i bet the process is a pain to
do and myself, i just would not want to bother with it.
Not telling yall what to do but if it was me and i did not yet have a
copy of windows 10, i'd be really worried right now. smile.
Have a nice day and good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Scott
Original message:

I would hate to be the person that decides to update after tomorrow.

On 7/28/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
wrote:

Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least another
month
to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know
how it
knows you are blind.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10

well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.

On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:

Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can
prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the
description.

It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted,
then
after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure
didn't
like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I
wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28.
Juli
2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with
windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it
was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and
chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is
likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not
being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem,
not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

.

Hi all,

 

In a way, the “know associated draft” message is more consistent because NVDA would always tell me if I had an associated draft with a message.

 

Having said that, it is annoying and I have been unable to figure out how to turn off the notification.

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Sudden Strange Behavior with Outlook 2016

 

Hello all.

 

For the past few days, NVDA has been saying “no associated drafts” before each email message in the message list in Outlook 2016.

 

I’ve made no changes in outlook.  Is there a way to stop this?  I have a large number of emails each day and those few words add time to the process.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan

 

I've been playing with this somewhat since yesterday and I can confirm Christo's statement that NVDA does not read, for lack of a better phrase, the forwarding or reply status of a message in one's inbox under Outlook 2010.

I even tried removing the icon column to see if Outlook would stop stripping the "Fwd:" or "Re:" prefix from the message subject in its own display, and it did not.  The icon presented, when that column is present, for a forwarded message is no different than any other new message.

What's even more perverse to me is that when there is a conversation (AKA thread) created by responding back-and-forth to a given message my inbox display is not even showing the subject itself for anything but the conversation itself.  You only see a subject if you hover over the subject area, which would gain focus as you go through the list with a screen reader, but I can't imagine what earthly purpose is served by this and it's not been called-out as a bug, yet, and remains unexplained.

I've used Outlook 2007, but it's been a very long while since I did so, and have also installed instances of Outlook 2013 and 2016, but don't have them at hand, either.

I was always accustomed to knowing whether a message was a forward or reply based on the subject itself having the correct prefix.  I could swear that this prefix was present and being read in Outlook in the past, but it's not on my Outlook 2010 instance and I have yet to identify a way to change that.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

Hello all.

For the past few days, NVDA has been saying “no associated drafts” before each email message in the message list in Outlook 2016.

I’ve made no changes in outlook.  Is there a way to stop this?  I have a large number of emails each day and those few words add time to the process.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Dan

Iupgraded to windows 10 almost a year ago and have found that you can do
pretty much the same things as in windows 7.



On 7/28/2016 2:15 PM, Alexander Masic wrote:

I really hate that rumers wich flouting around in the blind community.
for you who is so critical to window 10, explay for me what you can do
in e.g windows 7, but not in windows 10! Igues nothing. everything
works well in window 10 as in windows 7, but some tasks you nead to do
in anothe way. So upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade!!!!!


I have run windows 10 for almost 1 year now and i cant se anything i
really missing.

Yes! off course there is things who nead to be improved, e.g edge and
things like that. However you are able to do easy same things in
windows 10 as in windows 7.

So i,m still waiting from you an explanation from you who is so
critical, an really made propaganda to other blind to not upgrade a
reason why?



Den 2016-07-28 kl. 22:18, skrev Shaun Everiss:

Good luck is all I will say.
The servers will be overloaded with lastcomers and that means a
long wait for all you laters.



On 29/07/2016 4:18 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hi, i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you are at all
considering upgrading to win 10 you should do it today.
That way for one thing you will not have to worry about having to even
pay attention to that thing about win 10 being free for users of
assistive technology. I don't know, but i bet the process is a pain to
do and myself, i just would not want to bother with it.
Not telling yall what to do but if it was me and i did not yet have a
copy of windows 10, i'd be really worried right now. smile.
Have a nice day and good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Scott
Original message:

I would hate to be the person that decides to update after tomorrow.

On 7/28/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
wrote:

Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least another
month
to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know
how it
knows you are blind.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10

well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.

On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:

Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can
prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the
description.

It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted,
then
after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure
didn't
like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I
wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28.
Juli
2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with
windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it
was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and
chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is
likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not
being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem,
not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

.

I really hate that rumers wich flouting around in the blind community. for you who is so critical to window 10, explay for me what you can do in e.g windows 7, but not in windows 10! Igues nothing. everything works well in window 10 as in windows 7, but some tasks you nead to do in anothe way. So upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade upgrade!!!!!


I have run windows 10 for almost 1 year now and i cant se anything i really missing.

Yes! off course there is things who nead to be improved, e.g edge and things like that. However you are able to do easy same things in windows 10 as in windows 7.

So i,m still waiting from you an explanation from you who is so critical, an really made propaganda to other blind to not upgrade a reason why?



Den 2016-07-28 kl. 22:18, skrev Shaun Everiss:

Good luck is all I will say.
The servers will be overloaded with lastcomers and that means a long wait for all you laters.



On 29/07/2016 4:18 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hi, i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you are at all
considering upgrading to win 10 you should do it today.
That way for one thing you will not have to worry about having to even
pay attention to that thing about win 10 being free for users of
assistive technology. I don't know, but i bet the process is a pain to
do and myself, i just would not want to bother with it.
Not telling yall what to do but if it was me and i did not yet have a
copy of windows 10, i'd be really worried right now. smile.
Have a nice day and good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Scott
Original message:

I would hate to be the person that decides to update after tomorrow.

On 7/28/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least another
month
to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know how it
knows you are blind.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10

well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.

On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:

Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can
prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the
description.

It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then
after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't
like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli
2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with
windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762

.

John,

Thunderbird is an application of the Thunderbird is an application of the tab key. You have to shift had backed into you find the Treeview. That's where the accounts will all be. I have a lot of different accounts in there too.

Ben

On Jul 27, 2016, at 18:53, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:

I have several accounts on Thunderbird. I get stuck in one account and
can't switch to another. How do I make the switch?

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@...
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.