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Re: Forcing SAPI to Always Read Numbers as Full Numbers?

 

Hello,
I want the exact opposite of what this addon does. This addon forces:
1 2 3 4
When I want to force:
twelve thirty four
Thanks,

On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 9:36 AM Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io <cesteban.martinez=nvda.es@groups.io> wrote:


El dom, 27 feb 2022 a las 11:23, Brandon Keith Biggs (<brandonkeithbiggs@...>) escribió:
Hello,
I have an application where some SAPI voices I have always read the numbers individually, such as:
1 2 3 4
instead of twelve thirty four, or one thousand two hundred and thirty four.
For this application I want every number to be spoken like the above. There are no phone numbers or anything like that.
How would I do this?
Thanks,



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Re: New Vocalizer voices for NVDA

Don H
 

I have the code factory addon for NVDA and the Evan voice is already
available to download for vocalizer.

On 2/27/2022 11:52 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I was wondering when we will get newest Vocalizer Expressive driver
for NVDA?  I would like to see Evin voice which just came out for JAWS.
The latest Vocalizer driver is 3.0 I think.  Please let me know when
that will be.





New Vocalizer voices for NVDA

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Hay I was wondering when we will get newest Vocalizer Expressive driver for NVDA?  I would like to see Evin voice which just came out for JAWS.  The latest Vocalizer driver is 3.0 I think.  Please let me know when that will be.


Re: Forcing SAPI to Always Read Numbers as Full Numbers?

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 


El dom, 27 feb 2022 a las 11:23, Brandon Keith Biggs (<brandonkeithbiggs@...>) escribió:
Hello,
I have an application where some SAPI voices I have always read the numbers individually, such as:
1 2 3 4
instead of twelve thirty four, or one thousand two hundred and thirty four.
For this application I want every number to be spoken like the above. There are no phone numbers or anything like that.
How would I do this?
Thanks,



--

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Soporte a usuarios, Comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web: https://nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDANVDA Certified Expert 2019

 


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Forcing SAPI to Always Read Numbers as Full Numbers?

 

Hello,
I have an application where some SAPI voices I have always read the numbers individually, such as:
1 2 3 4
instead of twelve thirty four, or one thousand two hundred and thirty four.
For this application I want every number to be spoken like the above. There are no phone numbers or anything like that.
How would I do this?
Thanks,


Installing BRLTTY on Windows

Sébastien Hinderer
 

Dear all,

I am part of the BRLTTY development team but have little experience with
Windows.

Still, I would like to install BRLTTY on Windows to experiment with it
and its integration with NVDA.

So far my attempts to install BRLTTY were not successful, in particular
it was not able to detect my Hanty Tech Active Star 40 device.

However, NVDA was able to detect it. So, I was wondering: is there a way
with NVDA to show on which port the braille device is detected and
perhaps also the other connection parameters?

Many thanks in advance,

Sébastien.


Re: download location

cédric Paulet
 

Good morning,

 

Nvdaupdates  are download in your temp folder and not in an nvda folder.

Best reGard

Cedric

 

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Brian Vogel
Envoyé : vendredi 25 février 2022 20:56
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] download location

 

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 02:20 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Downloading it from the update choice inside NVDA, didn't even bring up my browser. 

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Which is absolutely true, but the in-NVDA update method also doesn't use the Downloads folder, either.  It was your saying that the program was not there that immediately made me think you had tried a manual download using a web browser from the NVAccess site.

I know that the in-NVDA updates use the actual NVDA program folder hierarchy somewhere for the upgrade installer, but it's been so long since I checked on where that is when an update is in progress that I can't be any more specific

Most self-updating programs do not use the Downloads folder for their self-update processes but use a folder under their own hierarchy. 
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Re: Reading PDFs with NVDA and Tagging

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You can use nao addon to ocr your pdf file
https://nvda-nao.org/


Scott Himel 於 2022/2/26 上午 08:59 寫道:

Hi all,

First, I searched the group for similar posts, but didn't find one that addressed my question in a direct manner. If I missed a post that has already handled this, then please point me in that direction. Thank you!

I'm relatively new to NVDA and am struggling to read PDFs in a straightforward manner with the screen reader. Here is a listing of the issues I'm encountering when trying to read books that I've OCR'd with NVDA inside of the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Pro DC:
  • The OCR I performed in a different program (my scanner OCRs the books for me) doesn't seem to work with NVDA. I have to re-OCR the whole book using Adobe's built-in OCR tool. Then, I have to close the PDF, reopen it, and NVDA MAY choose to read it then.
  • Once I've finally gotten NVDA to start reading a given PDF, it then has a tendency to jump erratically between pages when changes pages. This doesn't happen every time, but enough that it is quite frustrating. It seems like the tagging of the document is off, and I have no idea how to fix something like that. Adobe automatically tags the document when I open it.
Any idea how to address these issues?

Is there a better PDF reader to use with NVDA?

I'm wondering if I simply need to stick with NaturalReaders; however, I regret that their PDF web platform lacks any annotation capabilities. If it had that, then I'd only use NR. Supposedly, their devs are working on it, and might release something later this year.

Thank you to anyone in advance who can provide assistance. Take care.


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Writing In The Margins Of eBooks

H l
 

Hey everyone,

 

I’m using kindle on the windows computer (trying to use overdrive as well bet having no success whatsoever). Anyway I want to do the equivalent of writing notes in the margins of a book areferring to whatever I’m currently reading. I thought if I just add a note it would be good, but although I mnaged to add a note, when I come to add another note, it wants me to add it in the original one. Does anyone know how to make notes but a new one each time? So I can go through the notes and see each one referring to it’s location? I would have thought it wouldn’t be too hard to do, but apparently it seems to be.

 

Thanks,

Harmony.


Reading PDFs with NVDA and Tagging

Scott Himel
 

Hi all,

First, I searched the group for similar posts, but didn't find one that addressed my question in a direct manner. If I missed a post that has already handled this, then please point me in that direction. Thank you!

I'm relatively new to NVDA and am struggling to read PDFs in a straightforward manner with the screen reader. Here is a listing of the issues I'm encountering when trying to read books that I've OCR'd with NVDA inside of the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Pro DC:
  • The OCR I performed in a different program (my scanner OCRs the books for me) doesn't seem to work with NVDA. I have to re-OCR the whole book using Adobe's built-in OCR tool. Then, I have to close the PDF, reopen it, and NVDA MAY choose to read it then.
  • Once I've finally gotten NVDA to start reading a given PDF, it then has a tendency to jump erratically between pages when changes pages. This doesn't happen every time, but enough that it is quite frustrating. It seems like the tagging of the document is off, and I have no idea how to fix something like that. Adobe automatically tags the document when I open it.
Any idea how to address these issues?

Is there a better PDF reader to use with NVDA?

I'm wondering if I simply need to stick with NaturalReaders; however, I regret that their PDF web platform lacks any annotation capabilities. If it had that, then I'd only use NR. Supposedly, their devs are working on it, and might release something later this year.

Thank you to anyone in advance who can provide assistance. Take care.


Re: NVDA Comparative tutorial with JAWS

Luke Davis
 

Gene wrote:

I don't know.  There are different ways many things could be done and this
[using two keys to adjust screen/document/object review, instead of a rotating toggle]
may have been something that was done just because someone did it that way. 
There may not have been a question of deciding between ways, it may just have been the way someone designed the interface. 
That could be. However I suspect that the different modes are confusing enough to new users, without not having a definite way to get back to the one you prefer.

Additionally, given that not every situation has all modes available (in particular document review), having a toggle would not let you be sure that pressing it once will get you back from screen to object. Document review may be available, when it wasn't five minutes ago, and you have to actually stop and listen to which mode you're in.

Therefore, it is just faster, along with more friendly to new users, to have a definite key sequence you can press, or over-press, to make sure you're back in object review.
By over-press, I mean that even if you hit it three times, you will definitely be in object review at the end, without having to listen to anything, or having to stop and read your braille display, or take the screen reader out of beeps mode, etc.

Just my inflation adjusted $0.0186. I wasn't there when this feature came along.

Luke


time built-in command

Howard Traxler
 

WOW!  On my second machine, NVDA updated and all's well.  Time function came back.


Howard


Re: Zotero

 

As a question regarding accessibility, previous conversations on this group suggest that Zotero is accessible with NVDA.

There is also a very long discussion (that started all the way back in 2014 and was active at least through late 2021) about using Zotero with screen readers in Word:  https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/40450/screen-reader-accessibility-keyboard-shortcuts/ 

Discussions about actually using Zotero belong on the Chat Subgroup or a dedicated Zotero forum such as the above, as the screen reader part appears to be incidental based on all prior discussions.
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Re: Where Do Updates to the NVDA Program download to

 

This is unsurprising as well-written updaters will "clean up after themselves," meaning delete whatever is unneeded, after an update has been successfully applied.

I already did my update to 2021.3.3 two days ago so can't double check that the installer is there during the install period, then removed upon successful completion, but that location makes perfect sense for the self-updating update program for NVDA.
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Total Commander's internal lister and NVDA

Jiří Fenz
 

Hello,

i'm sorry if this was discussed here before.

But i have one question related with the NVDA and Total Commander:

When i load some text file into a Total commanders internal lister (for example navigate to file "keyboard.txt" in the Total commanders folder and press F3 key), the NVDA sometimes says only empty in the edit of the lister, but the text is loaded there.

When i navigate with NVDA Object navigation to the edit and click, everithink is ok, text is readable.

Also when i reread the text by F2 shortcut, it's also OK, NVDA read it correctly.

Have someone here the same experience?

And shoult be possible to fix this in the next NVDA version?

With best regards

Jiri Fenz


Re: download location

 

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 02:20 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Downloading it from the update choice inside NVDA, didn't even bring up my browser. 
-
Which is absolutely true, but the in-NVDA update method also doesn't use the Downloads folder, either.  It was your saying that the program was not there that immediately made me think you had tried a manual download using a web browser from the NVAccess site.

I know that the in-NVDA updates use the actual NVDA program folder hierarchy somewhere for the upgrade installer, but it's been so long since I checked on where that is when an update is in progress that I can't be any more specific.

Most self-updating programs do not use the Downloads folder for their self-update processes but use a folder under their own hierarchy. 
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Where Do Updates to the NVDA Program download to

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

This is with Windows 11 latest version and probably with Windows 10 as well. A long time ago, I was curious, so when an update became available, I chose to download it and not to install it. I then searched on the file name and found the following path:
C:\Users\<computer name>\AppData\Roaming\nvda\updates

Now if you choose to install the program, this folder is empty. for example, a few days ago, I chose to download and install NVDA 21.3.3 or whatever it is. But I also chose to install it. Just now when I went to that folder, it was empty. So there you have it.


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Re: download location

Howard Traxler
 

Gene, you're exactly right.  Choosing update in the NVDA help menu did ask if I wanted to install the update.  However, what I wanted to do was to postpone the install and make a portable copy to be sure my add-ons would still work.  Well, I did go to the NVAccess site with my browser and got it.  It went into my downloads folder as I would expect and I handled it from there.

Thanks all of you and nothing more required.

Howard

On 2/25/2022 12:15 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not singling you out because I see this done often.  When reporting a problem, it is important to tell what has been done in detail.  In this case, we can now properly address the problem. Before, it sounded as though you used your browser to download the file.


I haven't postponed an update but I think the following would probably work.

Open help.  Do so by opening the NVDA menu and typing h.

Find check for updates and press enter.

My guess is that NVDA will see the file, wherever it downloads it, and once again ask if you want to update now.  Perhaps it will automatically start updating but either way, that is likely to solve the problem.


Gene

On 2/25/2022 12:05 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
But NVDA didn't ask me where to put it. It just downloaded it and asked me if I wanted to install or later.  I was afraid about my add-ons so I put it off.  Now I cant find it.  It isn't in my normal downloads folder.

On 2/25/2022 10:46 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If it's not in your Downloads folder then it's where you instructed (whether you realized it or not) the browser to put it.

The downloads manager in every major web browser can be accessed via CTRL + J, and it will be listed at the very top of the list of downloaded items if you've not downloaded anything else (or very near the top if you have).  If you activate the "Open Containing folder" button for that download File Explorer will open, to the correct directory/folder, and focus will be on the file.
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Re: download location

Gene
 

Its not supposed to bring up a browser.  Its the update function in a program.  Such functions work inside the program and don't use browsers.


Gene

On 2/25/2022 1:20 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Downloading it from the update choice inside NVDA, didn't even bring up my browser.  It just went ahead and did it.


On 2/25/2022 12:06 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Did you try CTRL+J, what Brian suggested?

Yes it's most likely in your default downloads folder.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: February 25, 2022 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] download location

But NVDA didn't ask me where to put it.  It just downloaded it and asked me if I wanted to install or later.  I was afraid about my add-ons so I put it off.  Now I cant find it.  It isn't in my normal downloads folder.

On 2/25/2022 10:46 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If it's not in your Downloads folder then it's where you instructed
(whether you realized it or not) the browser to put it.

The downloads manager in every major web browser can be accessed via
CTRL + J, and it will be listed at the very top of the list of
downloaded items if you've not downloaded anything else (or very near
the top if you have).  If you activate the "Open Containing folder"
button for that download File Explorer will open, to the correct
directory/folder, and focus will be on the file.
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responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
/     ~ Commenter, *Evangelos*, in comments for /America 2022: Where
Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities
<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/opinion/spotify-joe-rogan-covid-fr
ee-speech.html>/, /        New York Times/, February 8, 2022













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