Re: Formatting issues in Word, add-on?
Luke Davis
Janet Brandly wrote:
Yes, I have MS 365 and the template is in Word 1997-2003.Sorry Janet, but that is far too broad a version number to be helpful. Perhaps if you get Joseph that log, he can get the real version number. But the reason I'm asking. There is a known obscure issue reported wherein certain versions of Word don't correctly indicate the turning on/off of such attributes as you are talking about, when the cursor is in certain positions, and UIA is turned on (NVDA Advanced settings). I just heard about this last night (or if I knew, I forgot). It is believed to be resolved by Word version 16.0.15028.20204, which is why I asked for your version number. The issue is talked about here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/10990 One interesting thing I’ve noticed is that after I’ve selected and italicized line of text andNow that leads in a whole different direction. Joseph seems to have some ideas there, but it could be something else entirely from what I was thinking. Luke |
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Betsy Grenevitch
Thank you, Brian. I had no idea that the commands were universal for Go to Meeting no matter what screen reader you are using. I know just enough to survive using different applications. On top of that I am dealing with dementia that is getting worse so have to refer to notes now even for things I have done for years.
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Betsy Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876 ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> Date: Thursday, April 21, 2022 06:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] please help with go to Meeting On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 03:08 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote: - Because they are not "commands that work with NVDA." They are commands for that program that work for that program whether NVDA is involved or not. During my time as moderator here one of the things I have really been trying to emphasize is that all members need to think, carefully, about "what's in control" when asking about something. Sometimes this is not necessarily clear, but in this case, it's crystal clear even by the way you originally asked the question. The fact that CTRL + C (Copy), CTRL + V (Paste), CTRL + X (Cut), CTRL + Z (Undo), and many other commands work when you happen to be using NVDA has absolutely nothing to do with NVDA. They work whether NVDA, JAWS, Narrator, or no screen reader is involved. They are (in the case of this short list) Windows commands that are applicable in a wide variety of programs that run under Windows. I've included a part in the group rules that reads: It is presumed that the majority of members will be using NVDA, and possibly other screen readers, as part of their daily routine. This being the case, before you post a message you have to consider whether the question you are about to ask is actually about NVDA itself, or about the program you're using it to access. Questions of the form, How do I use . . . with NVDA?, are very seldom about NVDA, but are almost always about the program being accessed with NVDA. In your specific case, you initially asked, in regard to Go To Meetng, " Could someone please give me the mute and unmute commands? " Those are commands for that program. NVDA has nothing to do with muting or unmuting Go To Meeting, you just so happen to be using NVDA to access it. Believe it or not, having some idea of what are Windows commands, versus individual program/app commands, versus the commands of your chosen screen reader often makes it much easier to figure out where you need to direct your attention and research to get something done. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 *You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them. * ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed |
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 03:08 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I am not trying to cause trouble but am trying to figure out why it is not NVDA related when it is NVDA I am using so I need commands that work with NVDA?- Because they are not "commands that work with NVDA." They are commands for that program that work for that program whether NVDA is involved or not. During my time as moderator here one of the things I have really been trying to emphasize is that all members need to think, carefully, about "what's in control" when asking about something. Sometimes this is not necessarily clear, but in this case, it's crystal clear even by the way you originally asked the question. The fact that CTRL + C (Copy), CTRL + V (Paste), CTRL + X (Cut), CTRL + Z (Undo), and many other commands work when you happen to be using NVDA has absolutely nothing to do with NVDA. They work whether NVDA, JAWS, Narrator, or no screen reader is involved. They are (in the case of this short list) Windows commands that are applicable in a wide variety of programs that run under Windows. I've included a part in the group rules that reads: It is presumed that the majority of members will be using NVDA, and possibly other screen readers, as part of their daily routine. This being the case, before you post a message you have to consider whether the question you are about to ask is actually about NVDA itself, or about the program you’re using it to access. Questions of the form, How do I use . . . with NVDA?, are very seldom about NVDA, but are almost always about the program being accessed with NVDA. In your specific case, you initially asked, in regard to Go To Meetng, "Could someone please give me the mute and unmute commands?" Those are commands for that program. NVDA has nothing to do with muting or unmuting Go To Meeting, you just so happen to be using NVDA to access it. Believe it or not, having some idea of what are Windows commands, versus individual program/app commands, versus the commands of your chosen screen reader often makes it much easier to figure out where you need to direct your attention and research to get something done. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them. |
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Re: I can't turn off NVDA
Arlene
To do it. 1. Hold down the insert key 2 hit the q and you will be asked if you want to quit NVDA. If you do. Then hit the enter key. Bam! It’s gone. Or, if you don’t want to shut it off. Hit the escape key.
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Sent: April 21, 2022 6:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] I can't turn off NVDA
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Re: I can't turn off NVDA
You may need an admin do it for you. I am setting nvda on a system that will not be needed so I plan to do it from start. However when I ever setup a system on a computer that like needs it, I tend to make my configs, set it up with the addons I need, make the portable, do a transfer and install it. Its how I usually do it to an active system. Thats what I do on most cases. Unless like the system I will be setting it on being a minimal case system used for spaciffic tasks. Its not going to need everything I usually setup as its going to do a spaciffic set of tasks. The only time I will need to do anything with it is when I maintain it once a year or more so I don't need the latest everything just the basics.
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Re: Odd issue with NVDA and windows 11
Armando Maldonado
Hello, I have not yet, but will do this next, thanks. armando On 4/21/2022 2:00 PM, Gene wrote:
Have you had a sighted person look at the screen? There may be something occurring the screen-reader is unable to show you except that it shows its progress. |
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Re: Odd issue with NVDA and windows 11
Gene
Have you had a sighted person look at the screen? There may be
something occurring the screen-reader is unable to show you except
that it shows its progress.
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Gene On 4/21/2022 3:31 PM, Armando Maldonado
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Re: Odd issue with NVDA and windows 11
Armando Maldonado
Hello, No to your questions, it just
does this even when pc is idle. I'v eeven restored Windows to no
avail, thanks. On 4/21/2022 1:03 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't think this is an NVDA problem. I think something is going on in Windows or a Windows program that is causing a progress bar to be displayed and NVDA is reading it. If you alt tab around, do you see any window that gives any idea of what it might be? Also, did this behavior start after any event, such as after updates were installed or after you installed a program? |
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Re: Odd issue with NVDA and windows 11
Gene
I don't think this is an NVDA problem. I think something is going
on in Windows or a Windows program that is causing a progress bar to
be displayed and NVDA is reading it. If you alt tab around, do you
see any window that gives any idea of what it might be? Also, did
this behavior start after any event, such as after updates were
installed or after you installed a program?
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Gene On 4/21/2022 11:13 AM, Armando
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Re: Speech delay in Excel
Gene
I don't know why you are having the problem. I don't know if the Eloquence add-on that you can purchase might cause this problem or if the SAPI 5 Eloquence might have this problem.
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I would suggest trying another synthesizer to see if you still have the problem. E-speak, being very responsive, despite how it sounds, would be a good test and it would be a good test because a lot of people would have that synthesizer available if they want to compare behavior on their machines. Gene On 4/21/2022 12:40 PM, David Hoff Jr wrote:
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Re: drag and drop
farhan israk
Thank you. Unfortunately, public sample is not available. Here is url. https://lms.learnwise.wfglobal.org/IN/en/home On Wed, 20 Apr 2022, 11:36 pm Dave Grossoehme, <dave@...> wrote:
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Rosemarie Chavarria
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 12:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] please help with go to Meeting
How do I sign up to be on the list or do you just write to it when you have a question?
On 4/21/2022 3:05 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Betsy Grenevitch
How do I sign up to be on the list or do you just write to it when you have a question?
On 4/21/2022 3:05 PM, Rosemarie
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Betsy Grenevitch
I am not trying to cause trouble but am trying to figure out why it is not NVDA related when it is NVDA I am using so I need commands that work with NVDA? Again, I not trying to cause problems but just do not get how that is not NVDA related.
Thanks for the address. On 4/21/2022 3:05 PM, Rosemarie
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Re: Formatting issues in Word, add-on?
Janet Brandly
Hi Sarah,
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Thank you for the suggestion. I'll definitely consider it if I can't solve the problem with MS 365. Janet -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: April 21, 2022 10:44 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Formatting issues in Word, add-on? Janet, I'm just thinking out loud now, & that is always a dangerous thing for me, because, as my dad always used to tell me, thinking was beyond my pay grade. However, since I'm not being paid right now... MS 365 is an online platform. I'm wondering if there's any possibility that the delay introduced by that is what is causing some or all of your problem. I don't even know if this would interest you, but a possible solution at this time might be MS Office 2021 available through Stack Social for about $50 USD. Normally this runs about $350 USD, so it's a very good deal. & no, I don't have any affiliation w/them, financial or otherwise. I wouldn't wait long on this 1 though, if it's at all of interest. You can get it at: https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2021-for-windows If the online venue is indeed introducing transfer delays & causing your problems, then this might be a solution at a very reasonable price. If you do get it, you'll want to go into tools > options & disable a lot of crap & fix up other options. That includes nuking the start screen, as it's a pain in the anatomy. If this is totally off the wall, then please accept my apologies in advance. But you should probably realize that this is coming from someone who recently nuked a server because of online delays, ie, I wasn't where I thought I was. This happens w/everyone, but screen readers tend to make it more pronounced. On 4/21/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: I thought she said the version of word the document was formatted was -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brightstarsweb.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com |
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Betsy,
The address for the chat group is chat@nvda.groups.io. That's where you can discuss programs like go to meeting and other things that aren't really NVDA-related.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 11:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] please help with go to Meeting
I am confused. Is that a different list? If so, what is to be discussed on this list and what is the address where you sign up for that list to which you refer? thanks.
On 4/21/2022 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Betsy Grenevitch
I am confused. Is that a different list? If so, what is to be discussed on this list and what is the address where you sign up for that list to which you refer? thanks.
On 4/21/2022 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel
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Re: please help with go to Meeting
Betsy,
Glad to hear you've found the notes you've needed. Just a gentle reminder that questions about how to use applications, be they web applications or installed ones, are Chat Subgroup topics. And I'm issuing this reminder more for the entire readership than for you, as we've now got a pretty good thing going where those who do have application specific questions have been posting them to the Chat Subgroup where extensive discussion can be had if needed. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them. |
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please help with go to Meeting
Betsy Grenevitch
I found my notes for Go to Meeting so do not need the help. I do not know why I could not find them sooner. thanks.
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Re: Speech delay in Excel
David Hoff Jr
I am using:
1. Eloquence reed 2. Windows 7 3. Excel 2003 4. latest version of NVDA I can remove the colon and the delay is still there. If I remove the "#" sign the delay goes away. The delay is slight, but long enough that I often cursor over it accidentaly. If it were not for NVDA saying "cell" on the empty cells I would not have caught this. I have punctuation set to the default setting. -- <> |
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