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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Daniel Sommerfeld
Hi Gene.
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I have the same configuration as you do and here it works just fine. I can read the messages. Unlike for example in windows 7, you navigate with the up and down arrow keys and not with tap. Maybe it was this? Regards Daniel Am 24.03.2022 um 03:47 schrieb Gene: I want to know if others have this experience. I may report it if they do. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
I just realized something. The interface is properly accessible. I had thought it was a dialog. You would expect it to be and it is in Windows 7. But I caused it to open again to check and dialog isn't spoken. Grouping is. So up and down arrowing is the intended way for this interface to work.
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I have no idea why this was changed. Gene On 3/23/2022 10:08 PM, Gene wrote:
Of course, this may be an anomaly on my machine and the dialog may work properly for others. I've been playing with it more and tabbing doesn't move me in the dialog. No matter how many times I tab and press enter, the same thing happens. The file is copied. |
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Re: Notices on Joseph Lee's add-ons: compatible with NVDA 2022.1, saying goodbye to most of my add-ons as of April 1, 2022
Louise Pfau
Hi. I checked to make sure that "automatically check for add-on updates" was enabled before I did the manual check. There was another add-on that wanted to be updated at the same time as the ones discussed in this thread. I was under the impression that Add-on Updater would check for updates when NVDA started for the first time after you started the computer. Sorry about that. Thanks for answering my questions. I thought they related to the add-ons in question.
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Shaun Oliver
yes it works here for me.
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By the way Gene, try using the up and down arrows to move among the options in that dialog. I can consistently do that and NVDA is reading them. I haven't tested in other screen readers. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
I did, and the up and down arrows move me through the dialog. I
tried pressing one of the buttons I moved to in that way and the
button did the expected thing.
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Gene On 3/23/2022 10:08 PM, Brian Vogel
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By the way Gene, try using the up and down arrows to move among the options in that dialog. I can consistently do that and NVDA is reading them. I haven't tested in other screen readers. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
That sounds like the same issue. I suppose it should be reported
to Microsoft.
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Gene On 3/23/2022 10:06 PM, Brian Vogel
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Dan Miner
Interesting as I have hit that dialog too (as well for other issues) and I've been able to get the up and down arrows to work. It does take a bit of fiddling to get it to respond and I agree.. You have a good chance of missing the dialog popping up and I wish the Windows addon would address these file explorer dialogs.
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Dan On 3/23/2022 9:59 PM, Gene wrote:
You may disregard my last message. The problem isn't an NVDA problem. I just tested with JAWS and narrator and the same thing happens. The dialog evidently doesn't respond to keyboard commands. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
Of course, this may be an anomaly on my machine and the dialog may work properly for others. I've been playing with it more and tabbing doesn't move me in the dialog. No matter how many times I tab and press enter, the same thing happens. The file is copied.
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Gene On 3/23/2022 9:59 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
You may disregard my last message. The problem isn't an NVDA problem. I just tested with JAWS and narrator and the same thing happens. The dialog evidently doesn't respond to keyboard commands. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
By the way Gene, try using the up and down arrows to move among the options in that dialog. I can consistently do that and NVDA is reading them. I haven't tested in other screen readers.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene,
I am not quite sure whether I've replicated your issue or not. I can definitely say that if I copy a file, and using only the keyboard attempt to paste it into a folder where it already exists, NVDA is not switching focus to the Replace or Skip files dialog. So everything is silent. What's peculiar is that if I use the mouse to select that same folder, and paste via right click from the mouse, focus does get thrown to that dialog and its title is announced and the first part is read aloud. I can then tab between the options and those are read. I did not try doing the moving within the dialog when it was not announced. I could eventually get to it via ALT + TAB, but that's no help as you'd have no idea it even existed to do that if you can't see it. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
You may disregard my last message. The problem isn't an NVDA problem. I just tested with JAWS and narrator and the same thing happens. The dialog evidently doesn't respond to keyboard commands.
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I was mistaken in my memory of the behavior when I wrote that the dialog isn't announced when it comes up. It is announced but tabbing and shift tabbing doesn't move me in the dialog. Gene On 3/23/2022 9:47 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I want to know if others have this experience. I may report it if they do. |
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Re: Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
When you get that dialog, what happens when you press up and down arrow?
On 3/23/2022 10:47 PM, Gene wrote:
I want to know if others have this experience. I may report it if they do. |
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Inaccessible dialog in a case where copying a file
Gene
I want to know if others have this experience. I may report it if they do.
I'm using the current production version of NVDA and the current version of Windows 10, 21H2. If I copy a file to a folder where a version of it already exists, the dialog asking what I want to do is inaccessible in NVDA. I can read it in screen review and with object review but the dialog is not announced when it comes up and when I tab, nothing is spoken. Gene |
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Re: question about highlighting text.
Gene
I found out something some people may be interested in.
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I opened an article from the Internet in a very old version of JAWS. It showed paragraph divisions with blank lines. The current version doesn't do that and NVDA doesn't either. That's another reason I thought Notepad was showing paragraphs correctly. I had seen JAWS do this for years and, because I seldom use it, I didn't know it no longer did. Perhaps JAWS changed this to correct an incorrect way of indicating paragraph divisions. Until yesterday, I thought NVDA wasn't indicating paragraph divisions correctly, but it is. This is an interesting illustration of how, if a screen-reader doesn't indicate something correctly, it may cause misconceptions. Gene On 3/21/2022 12:20 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what the difference is and if you see paragraph marks when you paste into word, that may not be an issue. If I paste a document into Notepad that I've copied from browse mode, there are no paragraph divisions. If I copy the article with browse mode off, paragraph divisions are indicated by blank lines. Perhaps in a word processor, paragraphs are retained but not in Notepad. |
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Burli radio newsroom software
Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone, I've had a query from a professor about software they use in their radio broadcast education studies. Has anyone used Burli, and if so, can you comment on its accessibility please? I believe it is from https://www.burli.com/ Kind regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess |
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Re: Creating a configuration profile for games
Bernd Dorer
Hi Luke,
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this would be really great to have. Thanks Bernd Am 24.03.2022 um 00:08 schrieb Luke Davis: It's on my to-do list to write a "remember sleep mode" add-on. |
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Re: Creating a configuration profile for games
Luke Davis
It's on my to-do list to write a "remember sleep mode" add-on.
Would that solve your problem? Luke |
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Learn how to code HTML with NVDA with this new series
TheeQuinn Public
Hey everyone it's me again!
I apologize for not posting for a while I had a terrible cough and could not record a thing. But I am better now and I'm rolling out a brand new series. Since the launch of my new website a lot of persons have been requesting html tutorials. Well, request granted. I have just posted the first video in my new html series. In this video, I teach you the basics of html and we write and view or first test webpage using the NVDA screen reader. Stay tuned for the rest of the series where I will guide you on building your own website from scratch with NVDA. And of course, we will explore some features which are essential for screen reader accessibility on web pages. So check out the video link below, and let me know what you think. Also, the link to the transcript is available on my website(link in the description). Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtqE1flm6zE |
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Creating a configuration profile for games
Nolan Darilek
Hey folks,
As a game developer and watcher of many streamers, I routinely witness players stumbling over this issue. Essentially, many NVDA keys interrupt game feedback, and as far as I can tell, there's no way to configure things correctly and have them retained in something like a configuration profile. Here's what I've dug into so far: Sleep mode is almost exactly what we need, in that it works perfectly for games. Unfortunately it has two big drawbacks: * It disables *all* NVDA commands which, while not necessarily a bad thing, is almost always overkill for this use case. It's OK to pass most keys through to the game, but games rarely have key conflicts with NVDA unless they're doing something very odd. * It cannot be saved in a configuration profile. I guess this makes sense in some sense, since if you enable it in the default profile, you can lock yourself out of making any NVDA changes. But if you enable it in a profile that is active for the game, then alt-tab out of the game, it seems like you should be able to save it just fine since you haven't locked yourself out of accessing NVDA in the default profile. I've also tried setting "Interrupt on typed characters" (or whatever that setting is called) unchecked. This is underkill, as it were. It works file as long as the typed character is alphanumeric, but if you're moving with up arrow and the game speaks a log message, this gets interrupted. I'm telling folks about sleep mode when I can, but it's something you *always* have to enable every time you start a game. Is there something in between? Sleep mode is fine if a game uses insert or caps lock, but for the vast majority that don't, something that basically doesn't interrupt speech on any keypress, whether alphanumeric or not, would be great. Thanks. |
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Re: NVDA repeating "say it again" when navigating with arrow key in Microsoft Word
Would you happen to have his version of word, steps to reproduce, specks of the computer, and if posssible a recording of this happening? My thinking is the mouse is being bumped or something. But that's the only suggestion I have for the moment Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. . to subscribe to the feed click here Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and odysee. Thanks Restream staff. Videos of some of our podcasts can be found on odysee You can support the podcast by subscribing via the tip jar. You will get early access episodes plus no adds. If you cannot do that, then leave a 5 star rating on our podcast using your podcast directory's rating system. On 23 Mar 2022, at 13:14, em3e3 via groups.io wrote:
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