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help with firefox and NVDA

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim


Re: Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi All,

The issue has now been resolved for me on WhatsApp Web. Please try updating your WhatsApp desktop version.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 13:43, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...> wrote:

Hi.

That's an excellent workaround, many thanks for the tip!

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 11/06/2022 18:35, mk360 wrote:

Note that you can use j and k to move between chats when you are in the list.

Regards,

mk.

El 10/06/2022 a las 23:53, Ahmad Ismat escribió:

Hi Luciano,

 

Thanks so much for your suggestion, it works !

Since I am using laptop keyboard, the object nabigation command is nvda + shift + left arrow instead of nvda + 4  and nvda + shift + right arrow instead of nvda + 6.

 

It simply works fine, really appreciate your response.

Best Wishes,

Ahmad

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luciano de Souza
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

 

As the down arrow activates automatically the next chat, when I'm on the chat list, I use the object navigation, NVDA+4 to return, NVDA+6 to advance.

 

Em 03/06/2022 17:53, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I've had the same issue for some months now despite installing the latest updates to the add-on and whatsapp. The only way around it for now it seems is to switch between chats with control tab and control shift tab. When you press control shift tab and you can't cycle back any more, that's the latest chat.

Very best wishes,

Mo.

 

On 03/06/2022 10:52, Ahmad Ismat wrote:

Hi,

 

It has ben 3 days since I face problem  when navigating the chat list in Whatsapp Desktop version on Windows 10. Previously one is able to move from one chat list to another using the arrow down or arrow up keys.  Unfortunately now when in the chat list pressing the arrow down or arrow up will go straight to the chat contents and there is no way you can navigate from one chat to another chat anymore !!

It is really frustrating ..anyone face the same problem ?

Is there a fix to this problem ? anyone kind to respond..thanks in advance..

 

My software version used are as follows:

  1. Windows 10 version  21H2
  2. WhatsApp Desktop Version 2.2218.8
  3. NVDA version  2022.1
  4. Whatsapp NVDA add on version  used  Version: 2.2212.8; Author: Gerardo Kessler <ReaperYOtrasYerbas@... 

 

Best Wishes,

Ahmad Ismat

Malaysia

 

 


Re: why can't I turn on caret browsing?

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Me thinks your NVDA key isn't working properly. This sometimes happens
to me, but more likely in System Access than NVDA. Usually a restart
of the screen reader fixes this. As for how to get the browser to ask
about carrot browsing again, I don't know as usually when that dialog
pops up I just hit escape and try links list again.

On 6/11/22, ken lawrence via groups.io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:

Hi list this morning I went to Newsline and when I tried to box links with
f7 it kept saying turn on. Told it stop asking me this question and said
turn it on. Now I can’t box links for easy navigation. How do I fix this.


Sent from Mail for Windows







Re: Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

That's an excellent workaround, many thanks for the tip!

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 11/06/2022 18:35, mk360 wrote:

Note that you can use j and k to move between chats when you are in the list.

Regards,

mk.

El 10/06/2022 a las 23:53, Ahmad Ismat escribió:

Hi Luciano,

 

Thanks so much for your suggestion, it works !

Since I am using laptop keyboard, the object nabigation command is nvda + shift + left arrow instead of nvda + 4  and nvda + shift + right arrow instead of nvda + 6.

 

It simply works fine, really appreciate your response.

Best Wishes,

Ahmad

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luciano de Souza
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

 

As the down arrow activates automatically the next chat, when I'm on the chat list, I use the object navigation, NVDA+4 to return, NVDA+6 to advance.

 

Em 03/06/2022 17:53, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I've had the same issue for some months now despite installing the latest updates to the add-on and whatsapp. The only way around it for now it seems is to switch between chats with control tab and control shift tab. When you press control shift tab and you can't cycle back any more, that's the latest chat.

Very best wishes,

Mo.

 

On 03/06/2022 10:52, Ahmad Ismat wrote:

Hi,

 

It has ben 3 days since I face problem  when navigating the chat list in Whatsapp Desktop version on Windows 10. Previously one is able to move from one chat list to another using the arrow down or arrow up keys.  Unfortunately now when in the chat list pressing the arrow down or arrow up will go straight to the chat contents and there is no way you can navigate from one chat to another chat anymore !!

It is really frustrating ..anyone face the same problem ?

Is there a fix to this problem ? anyone kind to respond..thanks in advance..

 

My software version used are as follows:

  1. Windows 10 version  21H2
  2. WhatsApp Desktop Version 2.2218.8
  3. NVDA version  2022.1
  4. Whatsapp NVDA add on version  used  Version: 2.2212.8; Author: Gerardo Kessler <ReaperYOtrasYerbas@... 

 

Best Wishes,

Ahmad Ismat

Malaysia

 

 


Re: Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

mk360
 

Note that you can use j and k to move between chats when you are in the list.

Regards,

mk.

El 10/06/2022 a las 23:53, Ahmad Ismat escribió:

Hi Luciano,

 

Thanks so much for your suggestion, it works !

Since I am using laptop keyboard, the object nabigation command is nvda + shift + left arrow instead of nvda + 4  and nvda + shift + right arrow instead of nvda + 6.

 

It simply works fine, really appreciate your response.

Best Wishes,

Ahmad

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luciano de Souza
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA unable to navigate chat list with arrow up and down keys

 

As the down arrow activates automatically the next chat, when I'm on the chat list, I use the object navigation, NVDA+4 to return, NVDA+6 to advance.

 

Em 03/06/2022 17:53, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I've had the same issue for some months now despite installing the latest updates to the add-on and whatsapp. The only way around it for now it seems is to switch between chats with control tab and control shift tab. When you press control shift tab and you can't cycle back any more, that's the latest chat.

Very best wishes,

Mo.

 

On 03/06/2022 10:52, Ahmad Ismat wrote:

Hi,

 

It has ben 3 days since I face problem  when navigating the chat list in Whatsapp Desktop version on Windows 10. Previously one is able to move from one chat list to another using the arrow down or arrow up keys.  Unfortunately now when in the chat list pressing the arrow down or arrow up will go straight to the chat contents and there is no way you can navigate from one chat to another chat anymore !!

It is really frustrating ..anyone face the same problem ?

Is there a fix to this problem ? anyone kind to respond..thanks in advance..

 

My software version used are as follows:

  1. Windows 10 version  21H2
  2. WhatsApp Desktop Version 2.2218.8
  3. NVDA version  2022.1
  4. Whatsapp NVDA add on version  used  Version: 2.2212.8; Author: Gerardo Kessler <ReaperYOtrasYerbas@... 

 

Best Wishes,

Ahmad Ismat

Malaysia

 

 


Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Luke Davis
 

Luke Davis wrote:

Open the view menu (Alt+V I believe), and press enter on "line wrap".
Ignore my advice above, and use Gene's of pressing Alt+O. That's what I get for trusting the top hit on Google.
Sorry to mislead you.

I use notepad mainly when I specifically don't want word wrap, therefore have never tried to turn it on. So I thought I'll grab it from google rather than powering up a Windows machine to check. Bzzzzt.

Luke


Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Luke Davis
 

Penny Golden wrote:

This long-line stuff is happening when I am in a note pad.
Open the view menu (Alt+V I believe), and press enter on "line wrap".

If you are doing any kind of professional editing though, Notepad is not your friend.
MS Word would be a far better alternative.

Luke


Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Gene
 

Turn on word wrap and the problem will be solved.  Do the following:
Open the format menu with alt o.
You are already on word wrap when the menu opens.
Press the space bar to check it.
Word wrap doesn't affect the actual document but it causes it to be displayed so that new lines begin in the display when the text reaches the right side of the screen.  Therefore, the lines you move through should be about what you are used to.

Gene
On 6/11/2022 12:14 PM, Penny Golden wrote:

This long-line stuff is happening when I am in a note pad.

I can transfer lovely emails over to notepad and the down-arrow then does huge long lines.

I think I reduced the length of the line but it may be that the email application of this is different from  just text reading in notepad.

I'll check it out.

I haven't seen Gene's response.  but I thank you all for any help you can give this old lady user.

Penny


On 6/11/2022 11:03 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Penny Golden wrote:

I thought that I used to be able to hit the down arrow and go from line to line in a text.  When I hit the down or up arrow in a document now, I hear an entire paragraph, or definitely something longer than a line of text. I was

As Gene asked: where is this happening? That makes a huge difference to the answer.

If this is happening in a web browser, or in browse mode in Word: open the NVDA browse mode settings, by pressing NVDA+Ctrl+B. One of the early items is the number of characters on a line.
Try lowering this number, then pressing enter.

That might solve your problem, if the environment is something using browse mode.

Otherwise we come to line wrapping, as Gene talked about.

Luke












Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Penny Golden <pengold2@...>
 

This long-line stuff is happening when I am in a note pad.

I can transfer lovely emails over to notepad and the down-arrow then does huge long lines.

I think I reduced the length of the line but it may be that the email application of this is different from  just text reading in notepad.

I'll check it out.

I haven't seen Gene's response.  but I thank you all for any help you can give this old lady user.

Penny

On 6/11/2022 11:03 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Penny Golden wrote:

I thought that I used to be able to hit the down arrow and go from line to line in a text.  When I hit the down or up arrow in a document now, I hear an entire paragraph, or definitely something longer than a line of text. I was
As Gene asked: where is this happening? That makes a huge difference to the answer.

If this is happening in a web browser, or in browse mode in Word: open the NVDA browse mode settings, by pressing NVDA+Ctrl+B. One of the early items is the number of characters on a line.
Try lowering this number, then pressing enter.

That might solve your problem, if the environment is something using browse mode.

Otherwise we come to line wrapping, as Gene talked about.

Luke




Re: Does LibreOffice work with NVDA?

 

The answer to that question, regardless of screen reader, is, "Yes, but it is not as reliably accessible as Microsoft Office."

The folks at LibreOffice seem to be serious about improving accessibility where it's lacking, and there has been a recent flurry of messages on their accessibility mailing list from developers.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: why can't I turn on caret browsing?

Gene
 

Why do you want to use caret navigation?  As to why you can't, I don't know. 

As for box links, what do you mean?  If you want to bring up a list of links, the command is insert, either insert, f7.  Caret navigation is just about useless to a blind person because we already use screen[-readers that provide a virtual cursor.  Caret browsing is intended to furnish something like a virtual cursor for sighted users but it almost never has any application to a blind user.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 8:48 AM, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

               

                Hi list this morning I went to Newsline and when I tried to box links with f7 it kept saying turn on. Told it stop asking me this question and said turn it on.  Now I can’t box links for easy navigation.  How do I fix this. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 



Does LibreOffice work with NVDA?

John J. Boyer
 

Thanks.

John

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Email: john.boyer@...
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Luke Davis
 

Penny Golden wrote:

I thought that I used to be able to hit the down arrow and go from line to line in a text.  When I hit the down or up arrow in a document now, I hear an entire paragraph, or definitely something longer than a line of text. I was
As Gene asked: where is this happening? That makes a huge difference to the answer.

If this is happening in a web browser, or in browse mode in Word: open the NVDA browse mode settings, by pressing NVDA+Ctrl+B. One of the early items is the number of characters on a line.
Try lowering this number, then pressing enter.

That might solve your problem, if the environment is something using browse mode.

Otherwise we come to line wrapping, as Gene talked about.

Luke


Re: Spelling / grammar checkers - I found one!

Sarah k Alawami
 

You will hear “has 3 mistakes on one line, you need to cursor through the line and hit alt down arrow to get presented with the list of one word.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling / grammar checkers - I found one!

 

Thanks for the sharing.

 

After installing the addon, I try to open web version of outlook, and input the following text into the email body

'''

Helo worlld.

'''

 

But I did not hear nvda reporting spelling error.

 

Quentin Christensen 10/6/2022 06:25 寫道:

Hi everyone,

 

Turning on my PC this morning, I got a suggestion from Microsoft to install their "Editor" plug-in.  These suggestions come up now and then and I usually ignore them, but since it looked to be the kind of thing we've been talking about recently, I was intrigued.

 

I can confirm it does work!  Essentially, it's a bit like grammarly - when you are typing in an edit field on the web (I used the Edge plugin but there is a Chrome one as well which I assume should work too, since both browsers are based on Chromium), it puts a red underline for spelling errors and a blue one for grammar - not dissimilar to Word.  NVDA doesn't buzz at you for an error, but when navigating it tells you that you have an error on that line, and reads it when you get to it.

 

You can find it at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/microsoft-365/microsoft-editor

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Locked Re: want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Gene
 

Control down arrow has been for a long time, the move by paragraph command in Windows programs where you move through text.  Your advice was completely the opposite of  what is the case.  Just down arrow is move by line.

But we don't know what program you are having the problem with.  In general, programs like Notepad and Word have a feature called word wrap.  If it is off, you might move with the down or up arrow and hear a lot of text spoken.  If you tell us which program you are using, we can tell you how to turn word wrap on.

It makes the length of lines you move by a certain length no matter how long the lines actually are.

Gene

On 6/11/2022 4:44 AM, Penny Golden wrote:

I thought that I used to be able to hit the down arrow and go from line to line in a text.  When I hit the down or up arrow in a document now, I hear an entire paragraph, or definitely something longer than a line of text. I was told to try  control-down-arrow to give me that short line sound,
but it did not work.
I need a line of text at a time, as I do a lot of proofreading with speech and punctuation on.  I must have done something to change a setting that would go from line to line, but I don't know what I did.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Penny

pengold2@...









Re: Does NVDA run on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise?

 

I'd suggest you get in touch with Microsoft Windows & Office Accessibility Support (US).  Pick your contact method from any one of the options on that page.  If your preference happens to be by phone, and you're in the USA, then (800) 936-5900.  If you are in the UK, see: UK Microsoft & Windows Accessibility Support WebpageIf you're neither in the USA nor the UK, you can always use your smartphone, start the Be My Eyes app, and choose "Microsoft Accessibility" from "Technical".  Support is only offered in English.

This is information that is most likely to be obtained "straight from the horse's mouth."

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Does NVDA run on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise?

Russell James
 

Thank you for asking this question I'm also interested in what you learn

Russ


Locked want to read short lines, not full paragraphs

Penny Golden <pengold2@...>
 

I thought that I used to be able to hit the down arrow and go from line to line in a text.  When I hit the down or up arrow in a document now, I hear an entire paragraph, or definitely something longer than a line of text. I was told to try control-down-arrow to give me that short line sound,
but it did not work.

I need a line of text at a time, as I do a lot of proofreading with speech and punctuation on.  I must have done something to change a setting that would go from line to line, but I don't know what I did.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Penny

pengold2@...


why can't I turn on caret browsing?

ken lawrence
 

               

                Hi list this morning I went to Newsline and when I tried to box links with f7 it kept saying turn on. Told it stop asking me this question and said turn it on.  Now I can’t box links for easy navigation.  How do I fix this. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: Spelling / grammar checkers - I found one!

William
 

Thanks for the sharing.


After installing the addon, I try to open web version of outlook, and input the following text into the email body

'''

Helo worlld.

'''


But I did not hear nvda reporting spelling error.


Quentin Christensen 於 10/6/2022 06:25 寫道:

Hi everyone,

Turning on my PC this morning, I got a suggestion from Microsoft to install their "Editor" plug-in.  These suggestions come up now and then and I usually ignore them, but since it looked to be the kind of thing we've been talking about recently, I was intrigued.

I can confirm it does work!  Essentially, it's a bit like grammarly - when you are typing in an edit field on the web (I used the Edge plugin but there is a Chrome one as well which I assume should work too, since both browsers are based on Chromium), it puts a red underline for spelling errors and a blue one for grammar - not dissimilar to Word.  NVDA doesn't buzz at you for an error, but when navigating it tells you that you have an error on that line, and reads it when you get to it.

You can find it at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/microsoft-365/microsoft-editor

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager