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Locked Re: WINDOWS 11

Gene
 

I'll let others discuss how supply problems and possible shortages may affect prices and availability of computers in the near future.  Regarding  whether you should upgrade to get Windows 11, if you want Windows 11 for some reason such as features you want,, that's one thing.  If you don't care, then don't upgrade just because Windows 11 has been released.  In that case, the question is what is different.  Do you want to have another computer so that, if something happens to your current computer, you will have another one there and can switch immediately or do you not want to spend the money now and wait until you have to replace your current computer?  Your computer is old  enough so there is no way to know how long it will work.  It may work for a good while or it may have some serious problem and stop or not work properly any time.


Also, for clarity, I should say that if you get a new computer, you may want to use it and keep this one as an emergency backup.  Whichever one you use as your main computer, use the new one for awhile so that if it is defective and needs to be returned, you will find out.


Gene

On 1/31/2022 3:53 AM, Stephen Thacker wrote:

Hi, my pc is a somewhat 8-9 years old and my brother’s son said I would at least need an upgraded CPE and most likely a new machine. What with all the expected increase in everything over the next few months, what should I do as I don’t work due to disabilities so what advice would you give me please? My pc is at present using the latest Windows 10 with NVDA (not sure what the latest version is) and is a 64 bit with a quodcore 14.4 ram.

 

Cheers, Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Locked WINDOWS 11

Stephen Thacker
 

Hi, my pc is a somewhat 8-9 years old and my brother’s son said I would at least need an upgraded CPE and most likely a new machine. What with all the expected increase in everything over the next few months, what should I do as I don’t work due to disabilities so what advice would you give me please? My pc is at present using the latest Windows 10 with NVDA (not sure what the latest version is) and is a 64 bit with a quodcore 14.4 ram.

 

Cheers, Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Steven Hicks
 

No idea to be quite honest.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: 27 January 2022 23:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

 

Hi.  How did it get set to no speech, in case someone else comes across this?

Louise


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Steven Hicks
 

Brilliant, thanks.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 27 January 2022 20:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

Shift insert D is the command for audio ducking.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

Ah ha, yes, that may do it, can anyone tell me where that setting is please?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: 27 January 2022 18:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

You can turn on audio ducking which will turn down the music while NVDA speaks and turn it back up again when it isn't speaking.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/27/2022 11:59 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.02 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Browser Nav: yes, a newer version was submitted for distribution. Don't worry about it.

The second add-on: I think you are referring to Windows App Essentials? Yes, you will need a supported Windows 10 or 11 release to install this add-on (to whoever saying that this add-on can be installed on any Windows 10 release, please contact me privately because I (the add-on author) didn't say that).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.02 released #addonrelease

David Ingram
 

Hi Joseph, I noticed 2 things when  i wint to nvda to check for ad-ons the first thing that i noticed as that browsernav gives a down grade from the most recent version to an older version, next there is an upgrade of an ad-on that checks to see what version of windows that you have and if you don’t have the most recent version of windows 10 it will not update the ad-on.  I noticed that this time.  Someone said that it didn’t matter what version of windows 10 that you have for one of the ad-ons but i’m here to say that it does.  Just 2 things that i wanted to point out.  I hope that it is not a problem.

On Jan 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Louise Pfau <louise.pfau@...> wrote:

Hi.  I had no problem downloading either of the add-on files by pressing ENTER while focused on the links.  I did have trouble activating the "Save as" split button though, and I'm not sure what finally worked.  I tried navigating to the button by using TAB and SHIFT+TAB while on the "Downloads" page, and pressing both ENTER and SPACE multiple times.  I'm using NVDA 2021.3.1 with Microsoft Edge.

Louise


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.02 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Quick, open NVDA menu, then select Tools/Check for add-on updates, as new add-on updates are on their way.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: question about braille and secure screens such as user account control

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

Ok, I'll poke around and see what I find. It just seemed a bit odd.


Re: NVDA Crashes on launch, log:OSError: [WinError 193]

Quentin Christensen
 

Thank you, I've got them - We'll have a look and see what we can find out.

Quentin.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:23 AM <bpurvis@...> wrote:
HI Quentin
Email has been sent. Thanks.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: question about braille and secure screens such as user account control

Quentin Christensen
 

I believe this is still an issue, and we do have an open issue here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2315

Do please comment on that issue if you can add any further info to it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 4:51 AM David Csercsics <bleeblat@...> wrote:
Out of curiosity, is there some reason NVDA doesn't display the user
account control screen in braille? Whenever I get a UAC dialogue or one
of those driver installation things, NVDA just displays "secure desktop"
in braille, and I'm thinking this is a major problem for someone who
cannot use speech. Should I report this as a bug? Or is this expected?
The windows sign-in screens always have braille, but things like user
account control and certain device driver installers where you have to
answer the prompt about an unsigned driver just display "secure desktop"
and you cannot use the braille display at all in those dialogues, though
you can just quickly deal with it with speech. Have I misconfigured
something? This is just a curiosity, as I've never seen it discussed.
And before anyone asks, I do of course have the setting enabled to use
NVDA on secure screens. I prefer braille for everything, as I always
have music going or some other sound, but I'm mainly concerned with the
people who do not have speech as an option. How do they fully use their
computer?










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Locked Re: control names

 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 09:17 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Why not put the issue on github and discuss it there, as if you do not the feature suggestion won't exist.
-
Thank you.  Though feature requests should not be created on whim, this is clearly not, "on whim," and is a feature that has been available in other screen readers.

The NVDA Group is a perfectly appropriate place to have preliminary conversation and float ideas to see how others react.  But if you want something to go "on record" and enter into the official mix for examination and possible eventual implementation, GitHub is the place to do it.
 
Mind you, and I say this not because of my opinion on this particular request, it can often be ages, if ever, between the time certain needs or desires ever come to pass in the software.  But you still have to put them on record.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Sound Splitter #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Sound Splitter

  • Authors: Joseph Lee and contributors
  • Download stable version
  • NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and later

This add-on, partly based on Tony's Enhancements by Tony Malykh, adds the ability to split audio from NVDA and other sounds onto separate audio channels.

Commands:

  • Alt+NvDA+S: toggle sound splitter. If enabled, NVDA will be heard through the right channel.

Sound Splitter settings

You can configure add-on settings from NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Sound Splitter category.

  • Split NVDA sound and applications' sounds into left and right channels: checkinb this checkbox will enable sound splitting feature.
  • Switch left and right during sound split: by default, NVDA will be heard through the right channel if sound splitting is on. You can instead hear NVDA through the left channel by checking this checkbox.

Version 22.02

  • Initial version based on Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements add-on.


Locked Re: control names

Sarah k Alawami
 

Why not put the issue on github and discuss it there, as if you do not the feature suggestion won't exist.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 6:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control names

As I indicated in my original post Window Eyes had the option to change the order of name first or control name first. That doesn't mean NVDA needs to do the same but I liked the feature in Window Eyes.

On 1/30/2022 6:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is a message I received off list concerning JAWS and this feature.


I don't know if the person wants his name used for attribution so I
won't do so.


Before I reproduce the comment, I'll ask a question. This may not
make sense. I don't have the technical knowledge to evaluate it. My
question is, can the way the role and other information is handled be
left as it is? Could only which output is spoken first be changed?
Would it be placed in a tiny buffer and presented in reverse order for
speech or reversed in some other way? Reversing the out;put would
seem to me to be the most simple means of accomplishing what is being discussed.


At times, when I [present an idea, I wish there were some way to poll
users about it. I may present an idea that a lot of people would
like if they knew of it but there may appear to be little or no demand
because the idea is largely unknown or, if known, users don't have a
structured way of reporting it and so they don't.


Here is the message:


In Jaws You're looking for "Speak control type first" and "Speak
control atate first" in the Settings Manager.
With both unchecked the label is spoken first (I.E., Start button).
With Control Type First you'll get button Start.
With State First it depends on whether Control Type First is checked
or not.


Gene






Locked Re: control names

Don H
 

As I indicated in my original post Window Eyes had the option to change
the order of name first or control name first. That doesn't mean NVDA
needs to do the same but I liked the feature in Window Eyes.

On 1/30/2022 6:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is a message I received off list concerning JAWS and this feature.


I don't know if the person wants his name used for attribution so I
won't do so.


Before I reproduce the comment, I'll ask a question.  This may not make
sense.  I don't have the technical knowledge to evaluate it.  My
question is, can the way the role and other information is handled be
left as it is?  Could only which output is spoken first be changed?
Would it be placed in a tiny buffer and presented in reverse order for
speech or reversed in some other way?  Reversing the out;put would seem
to me to be the most simple means of accomplishing what is being discussed.


At times, when I [present an idea, I wish there were some way to poll
users about it.  I may present an idea that  a lot of people would like
if they knew of it but there may appear to be little or no demand
because the idea is largely unknown or, if known, users don't have a
structured way of reporting it and so they don't.


Here is the message:


In Jaws You're looking for "Speak control type first" and "Speak control
atate first" in the Settings Manager.
With both unchecked the label is spoken first (I.E., Start button).
With Control Type First you'll get button Start.
With State First it depends on whether Control Type First is checked or
not.


Gene





Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Sarah k Alawami
 

AH, just like in mac os, put the  issue on github as if you do not the issue or suggestion does not exist.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Opinions about a new feature

 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 

 

My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.

 

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.

 

Gene


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Gene
 

Thunderbird doesn't support browse mode when writing e-mail.  I don't know if browse mode is supported in any other e-mail programs with that command.


Gene

On 1/30/2022 7:08 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


Where you compose your e-mails?

In Word and Outlook, in browse mode, w will move to next error...


Rui Fontes


Rui Fontes


Às 01:00 de 31/01/2022, Gene escreveu:

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 


My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.


I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.


Gene


Locked Re: control names

 

Hi,

In theory, yes, but again it runs into practical issues. There is a way to simulate what's termed "rearrange list" where you can change the order of a list, and then have various speech functions modified to consult this rearrange list. But remember that different speech functions are used for different purposes, ranging from just speaking a message to handling format attributes as you move through a document. Also note that we have people who rely on braille, so there is a question of making an equivalent setting for braille users. Ultimately, there are places where role is not even announced, for example in lists and Excel spreadsheet cells.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Where you compose your e-mails?

In Word and Outlook, in browse mode, w will move to next error...


Rui Fontes


Rui Fontes


Às 01:00 de 31/01/2022, Gene escreveu:

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 


My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.


I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.


Gene


Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Gene
 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 


My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.


I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.


Gene


Locked Re: control names

Gene
 

Here is a message I received off list concerning JAWS and this feature.


I don't know if the person wants his name used for attribution so I won't do so.


Before I reproduce the comment, I'll ask a question.  This may not make sense.  I don't have the technical knowledge to evaluate it.  My question is, can the way the role and other information is handled be left as it is?  Could only which output is spoken first be changed?  Would it be placed in a tiny buffer and presented in reverse order for speech or reversed in some other way?  Reversing the out;put would seem to me to be the most simple means of accomplishing what is being discussed.


At times, when I [present an idea, I wish there were some way to poll users about it.  I may present an idea that  a lot of people would like if they knew of it but there may appear to be little or no demand because the idea is largely unknown or, if known, users don't have a structured way of reporting it and so they don't.


Here is the message:


In Jaws You're looking for "Speak control type first" and "Speak control atate first" in the Settings Manager.
With both unchecked the label is spoken first (I.E., Start button).
With Control Type First you'll get button Start.
With State First it depends on whether Control Type First is checked or not.


Gene