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Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Gene
 

I don't know if how it works should be changed because I almost never receive chat messages in the meetings I attend.  But it would seem to me that a sound option should be offered along with the option to have something spoken because the member may not want to be distracted from what is being spoken when a message comes in.
 
The host may want to hear who a message is from when it comes in but an attendee who is not a host might really prefer a sound.
 
Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom Enhancements add-on

In most cases, the meetings I attend and have very few chat messages as well, but this particular meeting we will be using the chat feature much more, or at least that’s what it appeared, though we did not use it as much on Sunday as I thought we would. As for interacting with the chat window though, I am not sure why anyone is suggesting changing the way that works, as I find the chat window it’s self fairly accessible, but I have no idea when to check it because I am not alerted when a message arrives.


On Feb 23, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I think it is important to think about what the feature should do and how it can be adjusted.  I would think that, in many cases, hearing messages read as they come in would be distracting.  It might be a good idea to give a number of ways the user can know when a message comes in.  A tone might be one way.  Perhaps having the first line read might be another, and a third might be having the whole message read.  The meetings I attend have very few messages so I haven't been able to play with the interface much.  Those who do may have mor suggestions, such as a command to skip from message to message or maybe use some sort of commands such as NVDA key and numbers on the main keyboard to jump to messages and a way to read the message you jump to.  But I would think that just having information read out as it comes in would be far to restrictive in terms of what people might want, depending on circumstances.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom Enhancements add-on

Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>> It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
>> and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
>> NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
>> look at it if they aren’t already.
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Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bob Cavanaugh
 

In most cases, the meetings I attend and have very few chat messages as well, but this particular meeting we will be using the chat feature much more, or at least that’s what it appeared, though we did not use it as much on Sunday as I thought we would. As for interacting with the chat window though, I am not sure why anyone is suggesting changing the way that works, as I find the chat window it’s self fairly accessible, but I have no idea when to check it because I am not alerted when a message arrives.


On Feb 23, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I think it is important to think about what the feature should do and how it can be adjusted.  I would think that, in many cases, hearing messages read as they come in would be distracting.  It might be a good idea to give a number of ways the user can know when a message comes in.  A tone might be one way.  Perhaps having the first line read might be another, and a third might be having the whole message read.  The meetings I attend have very few messages so I haven't been able to play with the interface much.  Those who do may have mor suggestions, such as a command to skip from message to message or maybe use some sort of commands such as NVDA key and numbers on the main keyboard to jump to messages and a way to read the message you jump to.  But I would think that just having information read out as it comes in would be far to restrictive in terms of what people might want, depending on circumstances.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom Enhancements add-on

Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>> It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
>> and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
>> NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
>> look at it if they aren’t already.
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Re: Purchasing vocalizer voices

Socheat
 

Zoey is cool though. I like it.

On 2/23/2021 10:04 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

The trial ends after a certain number of days.

One needs to purchase a license to in order to continue using the voices.

I think I saw Zoey in the list of voices but I have not tried it yet.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing vocalizer voices

 

I miss working with these! Specailly the Eloquence, but too Angelica, Zoe and others that hope soon they’ll make it to Tiflotecnia! I did run the trial, but it ended, with the Code Factory oices.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



El 23 feb 2021, a la(s) 8:31 a.m., molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> escribió:



I like being able to install the voices from within the add-on.

I think my favorite voice is the female voice called Kate.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing vocalizer voices

 

For me, the CodeFactory voices have a much nicer user interface.  You can download the voices from within the add-on.  Installation is seamless.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: 19 February 2021 23:14
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Purchasing vocalizer voices

 

Hi listers:

 

I see there are at least 2 different companies selling the Vocalizer voices for NVDA, and I wonder if there is any difference between the options out there.  For example, there are voices from Tiflotecnia, or CodeFactory.  They do the same thing, but, the actual binaries are totally different.  Also, the CodeFactory option seems to also include eloquence.

 

Are there advantages in getting CodeFactory voices, vs. those from Tiflotecnia?

 

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

       

Re: NVDA sounds

Jason Bratcher
 

I also don't prefer Windows event sounds too much like that.
For me though, the AudioThemes add-on quiets down on extra speech that I don't care to hear.
I've been quietly working on a small audio theme of my own with random short sounds for roles (control types) in NVDA.
This comes in awesome for things like list items, buttons, icons, static text, etc.

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Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Gene
 

I think it is important to think about what the feature should do and how it can be adjusted.  I would think that, in many cases, hearing messages read as they come in would be distracting.  It might be a good idea to give a number of ways the user can know when a message comes in.  A tone might be one way.  Perhaps having the first line read might be another, and a third might be having the whole message read.  The meetings I attend have very few messages so I haven't been able to play with the interface much.  Those who do may have mor suggestions, such as a command to skip from message to message or maybe use some sort of commands such as NVDA key and numbers on the main keyboard to jump to messages and a way to read the message you jump to.  But I would think that just having information read out as it comes in would be far to restrictive in terms of what people might want, depending on circumstances.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom Enhancements add-on

Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>> It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
>> and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
>> NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
>> look at it if they aren’t already.
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Re: getting rid of URLQ=

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Gene


it must of been 2 early in the morning for me I know unchecking those elemetns will stop it been spoken out. I guess that is what can happen when sitting in front of a computer going through documents can do when editing etc for to long.

time for a coffee I am glad I do not use a lap top commands which is the document I am going through.


I do not think he can stop it from been spoken out



Not sure if the audio themes add on will do it either he would ahve to try a email that does it with it enabled.

Gene nz


On 24/02/2021 8:41 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
Hi Bob,
It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
look at it if they aren’t already.















On 24/02/2021 10:09 am, Gene wrote:
All that will do is have the word link not announced.  Links will still be read however.  That won't solve the problem. 
There may be some way, using the speech dictionary, but the easiest thing to do is just down arrow when you hear it start to be read.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting rid of URLQ=

Hi


I have not tried it but have a look under the document formatting
section and uncheck the reporting of liks and see if that does the trick.


Gene nz


On 24/02/2021 8:07 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
> Hi all,
> In many newsletters I get, NVDA reads a link that says
> URLQ=http%3A%2F%2Furl. How can I get NVDA to stop reading this as it
> contains no useful information?
> Bob
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Re: NVDA sounds

Sarah k Alawami
 

Look up the nvda themes sounds. It will have sounds to tell you when windows are open. Like I said I don’t use it, not anymore but when I did it worked well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sounds

 

I don't understand your comments.  Programs don't just open unless you take an action.  If you give specific examples of where you take an action and want to know if something is opened, we might be able to give useful suggestions, but just hearing a sound, while it would tell you that something opened, wouldn’t tell you what.  so what is the advantage?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Brandly

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:12 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA sounds

 

Hello all,

 

My screen-reader skills are decent enough, but it would be nice to know when a program such as Edge or Word has opened. Right now, I have to alt-tab to find out whether the program I want has opened or not. This would also be handy when opening messages in Outlook.

 

Janet

Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Gene


it must of been 2 early in the morning for me I know unchecking those elemetns will stop it been spoken out. I guess that is what can happen when sitting in front of a computer going through documents can do when editing etc for to long.

time for a coffee I am glad I do not use a lap top commands which is the document I am going through.


I do not think he can stop it from been spoken out



Not sure if the audio themes add on will do it either he would ahve to try a email that does it with it enabled.

Gene nz

On 24/02/2021 8:41 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
Hi Bob,
It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
look at it if they aren’t already.
Re: getting rid of URLQ=

Gene
 

All that will do is have the word link not announced.  Links will still be read however.  That won't solve the problem. 
There may be some way, using the speech dictionary, but the easiest thing to do is just down arrow when you hear it start to be read.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting rid of URLQ=

Hi


I have not tried it but have a look under the document formatting
section and uncheck the reporting of liks and see if that does the trick.


Gene nz


On 24/02/2021 8:07 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
> Hi all,
> In many newsletters I get, NVDA reads a link that says
> URLQ=http%3A%2F%2Furl. How can I get NVDA to stop reading this as it
> contains no useful information?
> Bob
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Re: NVDA sounds

Gene
 

I don't understand your comments.  Programs don't just open unless you take an action.  If you give specific examples of where you take an action and want to know if something is opened, we might be able to give useful suggestions, but just hearing a sound, while it would tell you that something opened, wouldn’t tell you what.  so what is the advantage?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Brandly
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA sounds

Hello all,

 

My screen-reader skills are decent enough, but it would be nice to know when a program such as Edge or Word has opened. Right now, I have to alt-tab to find out whether the program I want has opened or not. This would also be handy when opening messages in Outlook.

 

Janet

Re: Zoom Enhancements add-on

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Not yet, I'll probably do that soon if the add-on doesn't solve the
issue, but I didn't get a chance to download the add-on before my
Sunday night meeting.

On 2/22/21, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
Hi Bob,
It sounds like you’ve exhausted all the suggestions you’ve received here
and it still isn’t working as expected. Have you opened up a ticket on the
NVDA git hub for this? Probably wouldn’t hurt to get the devs taking a
look at it if they aren’t already.
Re: NVDA sounds

Janet Brandly
 

Thank you, this sounds like what I’m looking for.

 

Janet

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: February 23, 2021 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sounds

 

Hi

 

these are not nvda sounds but if you type in the search box of windows sound it will come up with sound settings. Press the enter key on it then tab down to sound control panel I think it was then press the enter key again. The next screen that comes up you will then need to locate the sounds tab then go into it there it will give you options to have it when it opens a program etc.

 

Hope that helps.

this is on a windows 10 machine.

 

Gene nz

 

On 24/02/2021 6:30 am, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

 

Is it possible to set NVDA to play a sound when a new window opens?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet
Re: NVDA sounds

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


these are not nvda sounds but if you type in the search box of windows sound it will come up with sound settings. Press the enter key on it then tab down to sound control panel I think it was then press the enter key again. The next screen that comes up you will then need to locate the sounds tab then go into it there it will give you options to have it when it opens a program etc.


Hope that helps.

this is on a windows 10 machine.


Gene nz


On 24/02/2021 6:30 am, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

 

Is it possible to set NVDA to play a sound when a new window opens?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet
Re: getting rid of URLQ=

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I have not tried it but have a look under the document formatting section and uncheck the reporting of liks and see if that does the trick.


Gene nz

On 24/02/2021 8:07 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
In many newsletters I get, NVDA reads a link that says
URLQ=http%3A%2F%2Furl. How can I get NVDA to stop reading this as it
contains no useful information?
Bob
getting rid of URLQ=

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Hi all,
In many newsletters I get, NVDA reads a link that says
URLQ=http%3A%2F%2Furl. How can I get NVDA to stop reading this as it
contains no useful information?
Bob
Re: NVDA sounds

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


Hi Janet,
I don’t think there is such an option.
But, yes it will be nice.

Afik

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA sounds
 

Hello all,

 

My screen-reader skills are decent enough, but it would be nice to know when a program such as Edge or Word has opened. Right now, I have to alt-tab to find out whether the program I want has opened or not. This would also be handy when opening messages in Outlook.

 

Janet

NVDA sounds

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

My screen-reader skills are decent enough, but it would be nice to know when a program such as Edge or Word has opened. Right now, I have to alt-tab to find out whether the program I want has opened or not. This would also be handy when opening messages in Outlook.

 

Janet

Re: Getting rid of the word linefeed

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you try this in focus mode? Will it work better that way? I don't know
if this is a web interface or not hence my suggestion.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting rid of the word linefeed

Hi all,
I use Studio Recorder for audio editing.
Whenever I use ctrl left or ctrl-right arrow, NVDA says Linefeed.
Does anyone know of a way to remove linefeed?
It is an audio editor. I can understand in a document. :) Thanks, Chris

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Re: NVDA sounds

Sarah k Alawami
 

There is a theme add on, look for it on the nvda website and add ons section. I personally don’t use it as I don’t need to know when windows open, I have my screen reading skills to know this. I really don’t want my computer sounding like a video game. I must hear that when I play them lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA sounds

 

Hello all,

 

Is it possible to set NVDA to play a sound when a new window opens?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet
Re: NVDA sounds

Gene
 

Not that I know of, though I may not know of such a setting.  I haven't seen one when I've looked through the program. 
 
This may not do what you want but in Windows there is, or there used to be and there probably still is, a setting in sounds that will play a sound whenever a new program opens.  Some windows that open are actually new instances of the program running so you may hear the sound when you want but others may wish to comment on that.I've never used such a setting because it would annoy me to no end, hearing such a sound over and over again.

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA sounds

Hello all,

 

Is it possible to set NVDA to play a sound when a new window opens?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet
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