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Re: Nvda update and addon update not working

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

Dear friends, to me, both of updates NVDA update checker and addon updater are not working!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda update and addon update not working

 

Here it is working as usual...


Rui Fontes

 

Às 01:27 de 30/09/2021, inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io escreveu:

To me it is also not working!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:06 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Nvda update and addon update not working

 

Hi all.

Well today I loaded nvda and went to check for updates on addons.

I do this every so often.

I have yesterday's updates and yesterday it all worked.

On both addon updator and nvda update check I got messages and an

error ding about not being able to check.

The log listed a load of errors and exceptions.

I then dialed up the right pages on the main sites for nvda and the

nvda addons site but didn't download anything.

I figgure if this is happening in both instances there is probably

some sort of outage as it all worked yesterday even with  latest

updates and its effecting all nvda update checking.

So is there a server outage or something broken on the server?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Nvda update and addon update not working

Rui Fontes
 

Here it is working as usual...


Rui Fontes


Às 01:27 de 30/09/2021, inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io escreveu:

To me it is also not working!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:06 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Nvda update and addon update not working

 

Hi all.

Well today I loaded nvda and went to check for updates on addons.

I do this every so often.

I have yesterday's updates and yesterday it all worked.

On both addon updator and nvda update check I got messages and an

error ding about not being able to check.

The log listed a load of errors and exceptions.

I then dialed up the right pages on the main sites for nvda and the

nvda addons site but didn't download anything.

I figgure if this is happening in both instances there is probably

some sort of outage as it all worked yesterday even with  latest

updates and its effecting all nvda update checking.

So is there a server outage or something broken on the server?

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Nvda update and addon update not working

inamuddinInam Uddin
 

To me it is also not working!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:06 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Nvda update and addon update not working

 

Hi all.

Well today I loaded nvda and went to check for updates on addons.

I do this every so often.

I have yesterday's updates and yesterday it all worked.

On both addon updator and nvda update check I got messages and an

error ding about not being able to check.

The log listed a load of errors and exceptions.

I then dialed up the right pages on the main sites for nvda and the

nvda addons site but didn't download anything.

I figgure if this is happening in both instances there is probably

some sort of outage as it all worked yesterday even with  latest

updates and its effecting all nvda update checking.

So is there a server outage or something broken on the server?

 

 

 

 

 


Re: speaking punctuation

Gene
 

When you open the dialog, if you shift tab once, you will be in a filter by field.  Type the item you are looking for, then tab back to the list. 
 
Gene
-----\Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking punctuation
 
OK thanks but how in the heck do you find the less than symbol in the
4000 items shown?


On 9/29/2021 6:50 PM, Christopher Duffley wrote:
> NVDA+N, P for Preferences, P for Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation. The
> items for those are there.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Christopher Duffley
> Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
> Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971
>
> 12 Pro Max
>
> On Sep 29, 2021, at 16:45, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
>
> I know how to change the level but not individual items
>
> On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
>> I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
>> and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
>> don’t want them spoken at that level?
>> Gene
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
>> Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
>> always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
>> release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
>> with a setting of Some.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: speaking punctuation

Don H
 

OK thanks but how in the heck do you find the less than symbol in the
4000 items shown?

On 9/29/2021 6:50 PM, Christopher Duffley wrote:
NVDA+N, P for Preferences, P for Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation. The
items for those are there.

Hope this helps!

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

12 Pro Max

On Sep 29, 2021, at 16:45, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I know how to change the level but not individual items

On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
don’t want them spoken at that level?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
with a setting of Some.








Nvda update and addon update not working

 

Hi all.
Well today I loaded nvda and went to check for updates on addons.
I do this every so often.
I have yesterday's updates and yesterday it all worked.
On both addon updator and nvda update check I got messages and an
error ding about not being able to check.
The log listed a load of errors and exceptions.
I then dialed up the right pages on the main sites for nvda and the
nvda addons site but didn't download anything.
I figgure if this is happening in both instances there is probably
some sort of outage as it all worked yesterday even with latest
updates and its effecting all nvda update checking.
So is there a server outage or something broken on the server?


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

 

True.
As a general rule, for windows 10, its windows essentials, and addon updater.
However thats about all I have on the systems I work with.
I mean I have the emote and symbols stuff just in case and the rest is
well for the user.
I'd actually prefer on systems to not have any addons at all
especially the ones I don't use often, but windows 10 and up needs
essentials and therefore updater.
But yeah its really user dependant.

On 30/09/2021, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Shaun,

Your post is the perfect example of what I said earlier, and that is, what's
a "must have" is very often entirely dependent on what you need to do,
where, and with what computer(s).

It's still good to see what various folks are using, with brief descriptions
of why.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity.

~Martin Luther King, Jr.






Re: speaking punctuation

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it was changed in NVDA, but some versions ago...


Rui Fontes


Às 00:49 de 30/09/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

I don't recall us changing that, so I'm not sure what has happened for you.  In any case, I can definitely help with changing an individual item's punctuation level.  In fact, we covered it in our In-Process blog earlier this year: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-30th-april-2021/#SymbolPronunciation

Basically you want to open the "Punctuation / Symbol pronunciation" dialog, select your symbol, and change it's level (full steps in the linked article).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:45 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I know how to change the level but not individual items

On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
> I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
> and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
> don’t want them spoken at that level?
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
> Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
> always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
> release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
> with a setting of Some.
>
>
>
>
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: speaking punctuation

Christopher Duffley
 

NVDA+N, P for Preferences, P for Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation. The items for those are there.

Hope this helps!

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

12 Pro Max

On Sep 29, 2021, at 16:45, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I know how to change the level but not individual items

On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
don’t want them spoken at that level?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
with a setting of Some.










Re: speaking punctuation

Quentin Christensen
 

I don't recall us changing that, so I'm not sure what has happened for you.  In any case, I can definitely help with changing an individual item's punctuation level.  In fact, we covered it in our In-Process blog earlier this year: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-30th-april-2021/#SymbolPronunciation

Basically you want to open the "Punctuation / Symbol pronunciation" dialog, select your symbol, and change it's level (full steps in the linked article).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:45 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I know how to change the level but not individual items

On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
> I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
> and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
> don’t want them spoken at that level?
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
> Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
> always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
> release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
> with a setting of Some.
>
>
>
>
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


1 - Here is the text explaining how to procede...

To install the driver and the desired voices, perform the following steps:
• 1 - Open the NVDA menu, with NVDA+N;
• 2 - Down arrow until Tools submenu and press enter to open it;
• 3 - Find the item "Manage Add-ons" and press Enter;
• 4 - Click on the "Install" button and in the following dialog browse to locate the desired Add-on;
• 5 - After pressing the "Open" button, NVDA will present a warning dialog asking you to confirm you want to install. Answer Yes to continue;
• 6 - Execute these steps untill you have installed all desired Add-ons. To finish, Tab untill the "Close" button and press Enter. Re-start NVDA when prompted.

2 - But, pay atention that is the old version and that one only switch languages by indication of NVDA!


3 - The version available at https://vocalizer-nvda.com can also switch language based in the group of Unicode characters present...

So, even if the web page do not identify the language, if the text is writen with greek characters, Vocalizer will switch to greek if the voice is installed.


The download page is at:

https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads

unfortunately, now is only in portuguese...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 23:58 de 29/09/2021, Gene escreveu:

The download ;page, near the top, describes how to install the synthesizer add-on and the voices.  They are all installed as add-ons according to the page.  Where you save them doesn’t matter, just as it doesn’t matter where you ssave and store any exe files or add-ons you want to run. 
 
While I expect you are on  the correct page, here is the link to avoid any possible confusion:
 
The instructions begin a few lines from the top of the page.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 5:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change
 
Hi Group,

I have two questions and I would appreciate your
comments.
1. As it is said that Vocalizer Tiflotecnia for NVDA has automatic
language change I tried to download voices that I need, but I am not
sure where to save them when it gives me the option to open or save.
1. eSpeak sometimes performs automatic language change but incorectly.
For instance when I have Turkish text it reads it as Spanish.
Also when I read Greek text on a website it reads the letters one at a
time, but not as words or sentences.
When I copy the text and paste it into a Word document it reads it as
it should.
Nevzat
--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader





Re: speaking punctuation

Don H
 

I know how to change the level but not individual items

On 9/29/2021 6:43 PM, Gene wrote:
I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
don’t want them spoken at that level?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
with a setting of Some.





Re: speaking punctuation

Gene
 

I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you don’t want them spoken at that level?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] speaking punctuation
 
Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
with a setting of Some.





speaking punctuation

Don H
 

Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA. I have always had my punctuation set for some. Seems that with the latest release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken. Did not speak before with a setting of Some.


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

 

Shaun,

Your post is the perfect example of what I said earlier, and that is, what's a "must have" is very often entirely dependent on what you need to do, where, and with what computer(s).

It's still good to see what various folks are using, with brief descriptions of why.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

 


Re: Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change

Gene
 

The download ;page, near the top, describes how to install the synthesizer add-on and the voices.  They are all installed as add-ons according to the page.  Where you save them doesn’t matter, just as it doesn’t matter where you ssave and store any exe files or add-ons you want to run. 
 
While I expect you are on  the correct page, here is the link to avoid any possible confusion:
 
The instructions begin a few lines from the top of the page.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 5:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change
 
Hi Group,

I have two questions and I would appreciate your
comments.
1. As it is said that Vocalizer Tiflotecnia for NVDA has automatic
language change I tried to download voices that I need, but I am not
sure where to save them when it gives me the option to open or save.
1. eSpeak sometimes performs automatic language change but incorectly.
For instance when I have Turkish text it reads it as Spanish.
Also when I read Greek text on a website it reads the letters one at a
time, but not as words or sentences.
When I copy the text and paste it into a Word document it reads it as
it should.
Nevzat
--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader





Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change

 

Hi Group,

I have two questions and I would appreciate your
comments.
1. As it is said that Vocalizer Tiflotecnia for NVDA has automatic
language change I tried to download voices that I need, but I am not
sure where to save them when it gives me the option to open or save.
1. eSpeak sometimes performs automatic language change but incorectly.
For instance when I have Turkish text it reads it as Spanish.
Also when I read Greek text on a website it reads the letters one at a
time, but not as words or sentences.
When I copy the text and paste it into a Word document it reads it as
it should.
Nevzat
--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

 

Well Firstly addon updater.

Thats needed for the addons.

The windows essentials is also good to.

Next is the addons documentation if you need easy access to it.

I also have addon unpacker but thats just so I can make my own for my own use if I need to modify things.

I have interactive fiction interpretors which is only good if you play text games.


calibre, goldwave, etc.

Dropbox, easy table, again most of these probably are not needed.

The emoticons may be need as well as report simbols but depends.

Golden curser maybe.

zoom, vlc, skype, teamtalk.

timezoner and toolbars explorer.

Out of those, I could slim that down to vlc, winamp, zoom, windows app essentials etc.

On systems I don't use bar for admin addon updater, and windows essentials, report symbols and emoticons are all I have.



On 30/09/2021 9:12 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Essentials is one, actually the main one I use. Also cod factory’s eloquence, but that one is a nice to have.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JinYoun
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Hi, I was just curious if there are essential add-ons we should get for NVDA?
What are your must have add-ons for NVDA?
Thank you 


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

Sarah k Alawami
 

I totally forgot about that, add this to my must haves list as well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 2:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Add-On Updater is on my "must have" list.  It takes all the guesswork out of keeping any of the "official" add-ons up to date.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

 


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

 

Add-On Updater is on my "must have" list.  It takes all the guesswork out of keeping any of the "official" add-ons up to date.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

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