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Re: Seeking accessible image-based backup tool

Richard Kuzma
 

Good evening,
Try image for windows by teribyte unlimited.
I have been using it for years now and is complete accessible.
It does cost like fourty bucks but I think it is worth it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nolan Darilek
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Seeking accessible image-based backup tool

Hey folks,

I've been using the old Windows 7 image-based backup tool for a while.
Recently, though, it's stopped backing up my system. Every time it fails, claiming the backup catalog is corrupt. This error persists even after I scanned my drive for bad sectors (there aren't any), delete the catalog and rerun the backup, or even reformat the drive completely without the Quick option enabled. I've been all over Google/DDG to no avail, and there just doesn't seem to be a solution.

I've also tried a few image-based backup tools and they all seemed fairly inaccessible. Specifically I tried Macrium, AOEMI, and something called Minitool Shadowmaker whose installer wasn't even accessible.
Could be getting spellings wrong but those seem correct.

Does anyone have recommendations for a good, image-based backup tool?
Ideally I'd like to just restore my entire drive after a catastrophic event, but given what an absolute pain it's been to find something accessible, I may just switch to File History.

Alternately, are any of the tools I've listed above accessible and I just don't know how to use them? It seems like if I'm needing to restore a backup then the last thing I want to deal with are unlabeled controls and such, but maybe I'm just too entitled.

Thanks.


Seeking accessible image-based backup tool

Nolan Darilek
 

Hey folks,

I've been using the old Windows 7 image-based backup tool for a while. Recently, though, it's stopped backing up my system. Every time it fails, claiming the backup catalog is corrupt. This error persists even after I scanned my drive for bad sectors (there aren't any), delete the catalog and rerun the backup, or even reformat the drive completely without the Quick option enabled. I've been all over Google/DDG to no avail, and there just doesn't seem to be a solution.

I've also tried a few image-based backup tools and they all seemed fairly inaccessible. Specifically I tried Macrium, AOEMI, and something called Minitool Shadowmaker whose installer wasn't even accessible. Could be getting spellings wrong but those seem correct.

Does anyone have recommendations for a good, image-based backup tool? Ideally I'd like to just restore my entire drive after a catastrophic event, but given what an absolute pain it's been to find something accessible, I may just switch to File History.

Alternately, are any of the tools I've listed above accessible and I just don't know how to use them? It seems like if I'm needing to restore a backup then the last thing I want to deal with are unlabeled controls and such, but maybe I'm just too entitled.

Thanks.


Re: Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sharpkeys is only for windows,  so remap the key you want for insert and that might help. I’m not familiar with the vm you are trying to use, so I have no way if this is even doable from within settings of the vm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of robyn_petrosino via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 1:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

 

Thanks for the response, however, I am only trying to use the Insert key on the Windows keyboard. Is that not possible? 

Also, when you say to use sharpkeys are you talking about using it for the Mac keyboard or the Windows keyboard?

Thanks again!


Re: Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

robyn_petrosino@...
 

Thanks for the response, however, I am only trying to use the Insert key on the Windows keyboard. Is that not possible? 

Also, when you say to use sharpkeys are you talking about using it for the Mac keyboard or the Windows keyboard?

Thanks again!


Re: Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

Sarah k Alawami
 

You need shartp keys.  Download sharpkeys  then map the capslock to insert.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of robyn_petrosino via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

 

Hi there, I work on a Mac and need NVDA for testing. My IT dept set me up with a VDI to run Windows and download NVDA. I did this and it works, however, I was unable to use the Mac keyboard with caps lock as the NVDA key so I purchased a Windows keyboard. The keyboard does work, however, the Insert key does not work as the NVDA key this way either. I have been Googling for a couple days and cannot find a solution to this problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


Running Windows on Mac with VDI, cannot assign NVDA key on Windows OR Mac keyboard

robyn_petrosino@...
 

Hi there, I work on a Mac and need NVDA for testing. My IT dept set me up with a VDI to run Windows and download NVDA. I did this and it works, however, I was unable to use the Mac keyboard with caps lock as the NVDA key so I purchased a Windows keyboard. The keyboard does work, however, the Insert key does not work as the NVDA key this way either. I have been Googling for a couple days and cannot find a solution to this problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


Re: NVDA says out of link in Outlook

Gene
 

Only if it matters to you if you hear the phrase.  It doesn't matter to me.  Maybe if I was editing a document with a link it might but I never edit documents with links where it matters.

Gene

On 12/7/2022 12:08 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
The issue with the speech dictionary is that whenever NVDA encounters
the phrase out of link, it will be ignored. That seems like it would
cause more problems than it solves.

On 12/7/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That's where using the speech dictionary will solve the problem.

Gene

On 12/7/2022 1:43 AM, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:
Hi

Thanks Joseph for the reminder about UIA which makes the difference.
I am actually using an older version of Outlook 2016 on Windows 10,
hence the use of MSAA and not UIA.

The question remains for people using MSAA for people using older but
still supported Office versions and/or Windows 10. However we can
imagine that NVAccess will not bother fix a such minor issue which
only impacts software that will be out of date in a rather near
feature and since the users may always force the use of UIA for Word
if needed.

Cheers,

Cyrille






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Re: NVDA says out of link in Outlook

 

Bob,

The question is, how often do you encounter the actual phrase "out of link" in anything?  I'd say it's awfully close to zero in both typical documents and even tech documentation that is not screen-reader focused.

It's also possible to use either the temporary dictionary (more work) or a voice dictionary where you only use that voice when you're in Outlook, so this deletion would not be in effect elsewhere.
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"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson


Re: NVDA says out of link in Outlook

Bob Cavanaugh
 

The issue with the speech dictionary is that whenever NVDA encounters
the phrase out of link, it will be ignored. That seems like it would
cause more problems than it solves.

On 12/7/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That's where using the speech dictionary will solve the problem.

Gene

On 12/7/2022 1:43 AM, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:
Hi

Thanks Joseph for the reminder about UIA which makes the difference.
I am actually using an older version of Outlook 2016 on Windows 10,
hence the use of MSAA and not UIA.

The question remains for people using MSAA for people using older but
still supported Office versions and/or Windows 10. However we can
imagine that NVAccess will not bother fix a such minor issue which
only impacts software that will be out of date in a rather near
feature and since the users may always force the use of UIA for Word
if needed.

Cheers,

Cyrille






Re: To those asking questions: Please give detailed information on your computing environment #adminnotice

Jackie
 

I totally get it, Amigo, & I'd go so far as to say that failing to
provide the information initially is actually a discourtesy to those
involved, cuz someone's gotta spend their valuable time to write and
ask for it. I understand that's not intentional, but I'd wager most of
us who provide support would admit to failing telepathy 101 abysmally.
So it's like, if you want us to help you, please take the time to help
us do that.

On 12/7/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Jackie,

I (and Nimer as well, and Joseph Lee as well) have tried, and tried, and
tried, and tried to get this point across on several different tech groups.
There are times when it's even more critical than others to have this
information, and for any complex problem, at any time, it's essential.  The
fact that we are right now in a multi-windows, multi-office suite, and often
multi-other supported version environment makes this information critical.

Those who've ever paid attention to the initial line of my signature have
already noticed that I have included Windows version and build, Office
version at the high level and under the hood level, and the bit depth for
both windows and office, which happen to be different on my machines, as I
still have 32-bit office.  I did that so that I only had to dig this
information out, once, and it would be there for all my Groups.io posts, as
I'm using the Groups.io signature option, which allows all users, whether by
email or the web interface, to set up a signature that will be used by email
contributions and/or web posts.  This is on the Subscription page for each
and every group that you're subscribed to, and is separate for each and
every group.

P.S. Just added the Windows Edition to my signature since, although I have
both Home and Pro machines, I'm almost always using the laptop with Pro on
it.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045;
Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson





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Re: To those asking questions: Please give detailed information on your computing environment #adminnotice

 

Jackie,

I (and Nimer as well, and Joseph Lee as well) have tried, and tried, and tried, and tried to get this point across on several different tech groups.  There are times when it's even more critical than others to have this information, and for any complex problem, at any time, it's essential.  The fact that we are right now in a multi-windows, multi-office suite, and often multi-other supported version environment makes this information critical.

Those who've ever paid attention to the initial line of my signature have already noticed that I have included Windows version and build, Office version at the high level and under the hood level, and the bit depth for both windows and office, which happen to be different on my machines, as I still have 32-bit office.  I did that so that I only had to dig this information out, once, and it would be there for all my Groups.io posts, as I'm using the Groups.io signature option, which allows all users, whether by email or the web interface, to set up a signature that will be used by email contributions and/or web posts.  This is on the Subscription page for each and every group that you're subscribed to, and is separate for each and every group.

P.S. Just added the Windows Edition to my signature since, although I have both Home and Pro machines, I'm almost always using the laptop with Pro on it.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson


locked Re: help with explanation, uploading file

 

This really isn't an NVDA question, and should have been posed on the Chat Subgroup.

So it's here, again, for the historical record, the tutorial I wrote about taking screenshots (and the various methods for doing so):  Taking a Screenshot Under Windows

The resulting file, regardless of what format it ends up being saved in is nothing more than a regular image file that can be attached to an email message or uploaded as part of things like the Feedback Hub, etc., as specified.

This topic is now locked.
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Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson


Re: To those asking questions: Please give detailed information on your computing environment #adminnotice

Jackie
 

Thanks so much, Shenandoah Valley! Sometimes I feel like we need to
imitate Bleeping Computer & generate some canned replies for
requesting just such information.

On 12/7/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
This post is a spin-off of the topic NVDA says out of link in Outlook.  Much
of the later content of that particular discussion points out that you
simply cannot solve issues "in the abstract" and without specific data about
the operating environment involved.

Now that we are in, and will be in, a dual Windows 10 and Windows 11 world
for several years, have been in a multi-version Microsoft Office and M365
world, etc., it is essential to give the specifics of your operating
environment.  For NVDA issues, at a minimum, that includes:

1. NVDA version.
2. Windows Edition with Version and build numbers.  (Obtained via the
'winver' command.)  Edition - Home, Pro, Enterprise, Educational -
absolutely matters.
3. Software version.

It prevents having to "go around Jake's barn" (as they say in the Shenandoah
Valley) to arrive at both a problem theory and possible solution.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045;
Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

~ Tom Masson





--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org
Also check out brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com


To those asking questions: Please give detailed information on your computing environment #adminnotice

 

This post is a spin-off of the topic NVDA says out of link in Outlook.  Much of the later content of that particular discussion points out that you simply cannot solve issues "in the abstract" and without specific data about the operating environment involved.

Now that we are in, and will be in, a dual Windows 10 and Windows 11 world for several years, have been in a multi-version Microsoft Office and M365 world, etc., it is essential to give the specifics of your operating environment.  For NVDA issues, at a minimum, that includes:

1. NVDA version.
2. Windows Edition with Version and build numbers.  (Obtained via the 'winver' command.)  Edition - Home, Pro, Enterprise, Educational - absolutely matters.
3. Software version.

It prevents having to "go around Jake's barn" (as they say in the Shenandoah Valley) to arrive at both a problem theory and possible solution.
--

Brian Virginia, USA Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

"Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people.

       ~ Tom Masson


locked Re: help with explanation, uploading file

Sarah k Alawami
 

Press the print screen on your keyboard, copy the resulting screen cap to paint, then save it, then upload the resulting png to the server. The prntscn key will take screen caps and is used in 2 ways.

  • Regular prntscrn takes a picture of the entire desktop
  • Alt win prntscrn take a picture of the current window.

 

When using the second method they are saved in captures which should be in videos wherever that would be. I say that as that is going to be different. You can browse to yore gaming settings to find the directory.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] help with explanation, uploading file

 

Hello NVDA,

 

I am using the Chrome Browser with my online activity, and am assured by the website moderators at Jericho Writers that this is most compatible.

I am stumped by what is being told me on how to upload a file to a given forum that will in turn, provide feedback.

What is meant by the term 'print screen' in relation to NVDA or any screen reader?

Here is the directive.

 

I am aware it is quite difficult, but is there any way to printscreen your screen to see this issue you're having with uploading a file?

There is likely a printscreen button on your keyboard. If you press that button, then paste it into your email by pressing the ctrl key and v key at the same time, I can then see your printscreen.

 

I am keen to help you with this.

 

Me: Thanks for input,

 

--

David C. Russell, Author

david.sonofhashem@...

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA says out of link in Outlook

Gene
 

That's where using the speech dictionary will solve the problem.

Gene

On 12/7/2022 1:43 AM, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:

Hi

Thanks Joseph for the reminder about UIA which makes the difference.
I am actually using an older version of Outlook 2016 on Windows 10, hence the use of MSAA and not UIA.

The question remains for people using MSAA for people using older but still supported Office versions and/or Windows 10. However we can imagine that NVAccess will not bother fix a such minor issue which only impacts software that will be out of date in a rather near feature and since the users may always force the use of UIA for Word if needed.

Cheers,

Cyrille


locked help with explanation, uploading file

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...>
 

Hello NVDA,

I am using the Chrome Browser with my online activity, and am assured
by the website moderators at Jericho Writers that this is most
compatible.
I am stumped by what is being told me on how to upload a file to a
given forum that will in turn, provide feedback.
What is meant by the term 'print screen' in relation to NVDA or any
screen reader?
Here is the directive.

I am aware it is quite difficult, but is there any way to printscreen
your screen to see this issue you're having with uploading a file?
There is likely a printscreen button on your keyboard. If you press
that button, then paste it into your email by pressing the ctrl key
and v key at the same time, I can then see your printscreen.

I am keen to help you with this.

Me: Thanks for input,

--
David C. Russell, Author
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: Probably OT: System messages in windows

Brian's Mail list account
 

I always turn tooltips on, since sometimes more file info is spoken that way.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Sommerfeld" <dani.sommerfeld@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2022 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Probably OT: System messages in windows


Hi Gene. Ah these are tooltips. I never really knew about them.
Probably, because it always had been unchecked. But ok. Now i know, what
i can play around with and if something changes to negative i know, why. :-)


Thank you for your help and really sorry for the OT.

Am 06.12.2022 um 22:03 schrieb Gene:
If you go back, there is report tool tips, which has nothing to do with notifications. Tool tips are bits of information that are displayed that give extra information about some things when they are selected. For example, on the desktop, if you move to This Computer and report tool tips are checked, you will hear something like shows the disk drives and hardware connected to this computer after you hear this computer spoken.

Gene
On 12/6/2022 2:52 PM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi gene. Yes, the checkbox you mean after hitting tab once is checked. But if you go back with shift+tab there is one more checkbox, related to messages. For me it looks a bit the same. I am not sure how to handle that one. It is unchecked by default.

Am 06.12.2022 um 21:44 schrieb Gene:
I don't know what you are seeing but you aren't looking in the right place. Control NVDA key o opens the object presentation dialog. If you open it and tab one time, you will find a check box. Check and uncheck it with the space bar and then press enter.

This setting is very likely already checked, as you want it to be. The default is checked.

Gene
On 12/6/2022 2:26 PM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Chris.


There are two buttons regarding messages. Do you mean the first or the second. The first was unchecked and the second was checked.

Am 06.12.2022 um 21:22 schrieb Chris Smart:
Hi.
If you are not hearing notifications as they pop up, press NVDA+control+o and make sure "Report notifications" is checked.






















Re: Probably OT: System messages in windows

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes and most seem to work on win10, but sometimes dropbox alerts go away. this happens most of the time in Win 7, but only some of the time in 10. This is probably a bug in Dropbox though as those alerts when the back up drive is getting full etc always work well.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2022 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Probably OT: System messages in windows


I don't know what you are seeing but you aren't looking in the right place. Control NVDA key o opens the object presentation dialog. If you open it and tab one time, you will find a check box. Check and uncheck it with the space bar and then press enter.

This setting is very likely already checked, as you want it to be. The default is checked.

Gene
On 12/6/2022 2:26 PM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Chris.


There are two buttons regarding messages. Do you mean the first or the second. The first was unchecked and the second was checked.

Am 06.12.2022 um 21:22 schrieb Chris Smart:
Hi.
If you are not hearing notifications as they pop up, press NVDA+control+o and make sure "Report notifications" is checked.













Re: NVDA says out of link in Outlook

Cyrille
 

Hi

Thanks Joseph for the reminder about UIA which makes the difference.
I am actually using an older version of Outlook 2016 on Windows 10, hence the use of MSAA and not UIA.

The question remains for people using MSAA for people using older but still supported Office versions and/or Windows 10. However we can imagine that NVAccess will not bother fix a such minor issue which only impacts software that will be out of date in a rather near feature and since the users may always force the use of UIA for Word if needed.

Cheers,

Cyrille

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