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Re: Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

Louise Pfau
 

I’ve had the CONTROL key stick intermittently with both JAWS and NVDA, but I think it’s an unintentional software sticking keys here.  The only way that I can get it to come unstuck is by cycling through the available keyboard languages with CONTROL+SHIFT, but then it happens again.  I don’t know what the fix would be on the part of Windows, and that’s outside the scope of this group.
 
Louise


Re: MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.

John Isige
 

Thanks, that worked! Had to get my wife to read the page, but still.

On 8/16/2021 11:51 AM, Tyler Spivey via groups.io wrote:
I'm tired of helping people fix this issue. NV Access is responsible
for the situation they created by supporting MathPlayer, and they
should be responsible for getting you back up and running again.
They've known about this issue for years, but refuse to do anything
about it once and for all.

However, start here:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/71405


On 8/16/2021 9:21 AM, John Isige wrote:
So because I was posting about MathPlayer, somebody said they didn't
want to install it because the last time they did and uninstalled it,
it broke NVDA, it wouldn't "pick up" Chrome. Then somebody said you
could use the Access Math addon without MathPlayer. I figured I'd
kill two birds with one stone and uninstall MathPlayer to see what
happened, and try the addon.


Well, it indeed broke things. When Firefox comes up initially I get
the normal read of the address bar, but whenever it loads a page I
get "unknown", and silence with tabbing.


Please read carefully!


I have run the com registration tool. Twice. I have restarted. I have
UAC turned off and it must have run with admin rights because it
didn't ask for anything and said it finished.


My next idea is to generate a portable copy with all addons,
uninstall, and then reinstall from the portable copy. But I'm not
sure if that will work because I have no idea what's broken. anybody
have a fix for this?








Re: MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.

Gene
 

It sounds as though the registration tool isn’t correcting the problem, at least in your case.  Do you have system restore ;points?  If this is a registry problem, running a restore point before you uninstalled math player will likely correct the problem.
 
I’ll add that that is no reason not to install Math Player.  It means that if you install it, you shouldn’t uninstall it.  There is no reason to uninstall it.  Just don’t use it if you don’t want to.  You can disable add-ons and leave them installed if the add-on is doing something you don’t want. 
 
Uninstalling Microsoft Office causes problems with NVDA but people wouldn’t not install it for that reason.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.
 
Well, I just created a portable copy and told it to run it when it was
done. That didn't fix anything, so I doubt reinstallation will either.



On 8/16/2021 11:21 AM, John Isige wrote:
> So because I was posting about MathPlayer, somebody said they didn't
> want to install it because the last time they did and uninstalled it,
> it broke NVDA, it wouldn't "pick up" Chrome. Then somebody said you
> could use the Access Math addon without MathPlayer. I figured I'd kill
> two birds with one stone and uninstall MathPlayer to see what
> happened, and try the addon.
>
>
> Well, it indeed broke things. When Firefox comes up initially I get
> the normal read of the address bar, but whenever it loads a page I get
> "unknown", and silence with tabbing.
>
>
> Please read carefully!
>
>
> I have run the com registration tool. Twice. I have restarted. I have
> UAC turned off and it must have run with admin rights because it
> didn't ask for anything and said it finished.
>
>
> My next idea is to generate a portable copy with all addons,
> uninstall, and then reinstall from the portable copy. But I'm not sure
> if that will work because I have no idea what's broken. anybody have a
> fix for this?
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.

Tyler Spivey
 

I'm tired of helping people fix this issue. NV Access is responsible for the situation they created by supporting MathPlayer, and they should be responsible for getting you back up and running again.
They've known about this issue for years, but refuse to do anything about it once and for all.

However, start here:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/71405

On 8/16/2021 9:21 AM, John Isige wrote:
So because I was posting about MathPlayer, somebody said they didn't want to install it because the last time they did and uninstalled it, it broke NVDA, it wouldn't "pick up" Chrome. Then somebody said you could use the Access Math addon without MathPlayer. I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone and uninstall MathPlayer to see what happened, and try the addon.
Well, it indeed broke things. When Firefox comes up initially I get the normal read of the address bar, but whenever it loads a page I get "unknown", and silence with tabbing.
Please read carefully!
I have run the com registration tool. Twice. I have restarted. I have UAC turned off and it must have run with admin rights because it didn't ask for anything and said it finished.
My next idea is to generate a portable copy with all addons, uninstall, and then reinstall from the portable copy. But I'm not sure if that will work because I have no idea what's broken. anybody have a fix for this?


Re: How should I read the parameter information of each method in Visual Studio?

Rowen Cary
 

I created the feedback in VS. here is the link


Re: MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.

John Isige
 

Well, I just created a portable copy and told it to run it when it was
done. That didn't fix anything, so I doubt reinstallation will either.

On 8/16/2021 11:21 AM, John Isige wrote:
So because I was posting about MathPlayer, somebody said they didn't
want to install it because the last time they did and uninstalled it,
it broke NVDA, it wouldn't "pick up" Chrome. Then somebody said you
could use the Access Math addon without MathPlayer. I figured I'd kill
two birds with one stone and uninstall MathPlayer to see what
happened, and try the addon.


Well, it indeed broke things. When Firefox comes up initially I get
the normal read of the address bar, but whenever it loads a page I get
"unknown", and silence with tabbing.


Please read carefully!


I have run the com registration tool. Twice. I have restarted. I have
UAC turned off and it must have run with admin rights because it
didn't ask for anything and said it finished.


My next idea is to generate a portable copy with all addons,
uninstall, and then reinstall from the portable copy. But I'm not sure
if that will work because I have no idea what's broken. anybody have a
fix for this?





MathPlayer broke NVDA and Firefox.

John Isige
 

So because I was posting about MathPlayer, somebody said they didn't want to install it because the last time they did and uninstalled it, it broke NVDA, it wouldn't "pick up" Chrome. Then somebody said you could use the Access Math addon without MathPlayer. I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone and uninstall MathPlayer to see what happened, and try the addon.


Well, it indeed broke things. When Firefox comes up initially I get the normal read of the address bar, but whenever it loads a page I get "unknown", and silence with tabbing.


Please read carefully!


I have run the com registration tool. Twice. I have restarted. I have UAC turned off and it must have run with admin rights because it didn't ask for anything and said it finished.


My next idea is to generate a portable copy with all addons, uninstall, and then reinstall from the portable copy. But I'm not sure if that will work because I have no idea what's broken. anybody have a fix for this?


Re: How to update speech dictionary entries and configuration profiles on a portable version of NVDA?

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Luke, and sory for the delay in replying to your question. Yes, you copy the default.dic file from appdata/roaming/NVDA/Speechdicts and you paste it into exactly the same location on your other device. Of course, there'll already be a default.dic file in there, but you can either overwrite that existing one or rename it to something like default_orig.dic ... NVDA will use the new default.dic file but you can revert back to the original one if you need. The new dictionary file will become active the next time you re-start NVDA.

Yes, it is a text file in as much as it can be opened and read in Notepad, but it is a .dic file. It is similar to a csv file (comma-separated values) format that worksheets from Excel can be exported as and read in Notepad ... in a CSV file the commas indicate a column boundary. In an NVDA .dic file it indicates the different options available in the speech dictionary dialogue ... pattern, replacement, comment, case sensitive etc.

Hope that helps,

Giles


Re: NVDA sluggish in Excel 365

Rowen Cary
 

Hi Pranav,

I have the same feeling about the slow running problem you mentioned, but I didn’t find a related issue. There is a more serious issue on github. I don't know if it also bothers you. However, NVAccess did not comment on this, and I hope more people will pay attention to these issues. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12108

Cheers


Re: How should I read the parameter information of each method in Visual Studio?

Rowen Cary
 

Hi Luke,

I also use NVDA2021.1 and VS2019, enabled the UIA selective registration option in the advanced settings of NVDA, and turned on the tooltip of NVDA. The others seem to be nothing.

Cheers


Re: NVDA sluggish in Excel 365

Jackie
 

I'm so sorry. Humblest apologies. It's in the 'view' tab of Excel.

On 8/15/21, Luke Robinett <lukelistservs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi. Can you elaborate on what you mean by live view? Is this a setting in
NVDA, a feature of Excel, something else? Thank you.

On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you tried disabling live view, Pranav?

On 8/15/21, Pranav Lal <pranav@techesoterica.com> wrote:
Hi Rowen,



This sheet has about 710000 rows. It is a large data set of stock
prices.



This is too bad about NVDA. Do you know if an issue has been raised
about
this on github?



Pranav







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Re: How to update speech dictionary entries and configuration profiles on a portable version of NVDA?

 

Luke,

If all you're trying to do is get the dictionary that exists on your installed version on to your portable version, it would be fine to just copy and paste the appropriate .DIC file  (or files) over.

That being said, if you're not sure about how to go about doing that it is a pretty simple issue to just make a new portable copy.

I was thinking you might have different add-ons in the installed and portable versions that you wanted to retain that way and/or a given dictionary file on one side that you wanted untouched while you wanted to merge the into the other.  Since these are not the case, the options become much clearer and easier, regardless of what you end up choosing to do.

But your having mentioned configuration profiles is also something that made me think that creating a fresh portable copy if what's wanted is a portable "edition" of what you have in place with your installed version would likely be the preferable option.
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locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

The subject line of this thread was clear. If you feel like vaccines aren't good for you, then please stay unvaccinated, though I hope that you stay away from me and others, and I hope you avoid going to the hospital when you find yourself sick. Finally, as the owner of this list, I am going to send out whatever message I feel like sending out. If you are offended by the fact that I send out a message addressing current events that I and the world are impacted by, then please unsubscribe.

And with that, this topic will be locked. Any future comments should be sent to the owner address.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 7:43 PM <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Well my 2 cents is this is not a political list and it should not be my job to read mail then deleate, since there seems to be a issue of not changing subject lines, but changing the content.

 

Thus with a iPhone I do not have time to preview a email to know if I wish to deleate it.

 

thanks

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 19:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hi Shaun. With so much bitterness in this world I for one don’t mind random moments of kindness even in unexpected forums such as this. My suggestion to you or anyone else offended by the content is simply to scroll past it and onto something that interests you. I don’t think there’s any need to make a snarky reply. Just my two cents.



On Aug 15, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:



look, it is nice that you're all wanting people to be safe and do what you feel is the right thing. but that's just it. it is what you feel is the right thing.

 

can we now please get back to the topic of NVDA?

 

On 16/08/2021 11:09 am, Moti Azrad rambled on about the following:

Hi Nimer Jaber,

 

I sure agree with all your words in this letter.

We have to do the best to assist each other and to do all the needed things to keep our life and to protect ourselves.

 

Thanks much

 

Moti

 

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: 16 August, 2021 3:14
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hello everyone,

 

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

 

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

 

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

 

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!



--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

gbmagoo@...
 

Well my 2 cents is this is not a political list and it should not be my job to read mail then deleate, since there seems to be a issue of not changing subject lines, but changing the content.

 

Thus with a iPhone I do not have time to preview a email to know if I wish to deleate it.

 

thanks

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 19:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hi Shaun. With so much bitterness in this world I for one don’t mind random moments of kindness even in unexpected forums such as this. My suggestion to you or anyone else offended by the content is simply to scroll past it and onto something that interests you. I don’t think there’s any need to make a snarky reply. Just my two cents.



On Aug 15, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:



look, it is nice that you're all wanting people to be safe and do what you feel is the right thing. but that's just it. it is what you feel is the right thing.

 

can we now please get back to the topic of NVDA?

 

On 16/08/2021 11:09 am, Moti Azrad rambled on about the following:

Hi Nimer Jaber,

 

I sure agree with all your words in this letter.

We have to do the best to assist each other and to do all the needed things to keep our life and to protect ourselves.

 

Thanks much

 

Moti

 

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: 16 August, 2021 3:14
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hello everyone,

 

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

 

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

 

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

 

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


Re: How should I read the parameter information of each method in Visual Studio?

Luke Robinett
 

About NVDA reading the entire line when navigating IntelliSense menus… And not to hijack the original topic of the thread, but since you said it had been fixed, I’m curious about that. I’m running Visual Studio 2019 and the latest version of NVDA and it’s still not working correctly for me. Is there something else I need to do? Thank you so much!

On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@...> wrote:



Hi Luke, The problem that you mentioned that NVDA would read the whole line incorrectly has been fixed. But the parameter information can not be read so far, which really bothers me and it is also very frustrating.


Re: NVDA sluggish in Excel 365

Luke Robinett
 

Hi. Can you elaborate on what you mean by live view? Is this a setting in NVDA, a feature of Excel, something else? Thank you.

On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you tried disabling live view, Pranav?

On 8/15/21, Pranav Lal <pranav@techesoterica.com> wrote:
Hi Rowen,



This sheet has about 710000 rows. It is a large data set of stock prices.



This is too bad about NVDA. Do you know if an issue has been raised about
this on github?



Pranav







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locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

Luke Robinett
 

Hi Shaun. With so much bitterness in this world I for one don’t mind random moments of kindness even in unexpected forums such as this. My suggestion to you or anyone else offended by the content is simply to scroll past it and onto something that interests you. I don’t think there’s any need to make a snarky reply. Just my two cents.

On Aug 15, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:



look, it is nice that you're all wanting people to be safe and do what you feel is the right thing. but that's just it. it is what you feel is the right thing.


can we now please get back to the topic of NVDA?


On 16/08/2021 11:09 am, Moti Azrad rambled on about the following:

Hi Nimer Jaber,

 

I sure agree with all your words in this letter.

We have to do the best to assist each other and to do all the needed things to keep our life and to protect ourselves.

 

Thanks much

 

Moti

 

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: 16 August, 2021 3:14
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hello everyone,

 

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

 

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

 

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

 

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

Shaun Oliver
 

look, it is nice that you're all wanting people to be safe and do what you feel is the right thing. but that's just it. it is what you feel is the right thing.


can we now please get back to the topic of NVDA?


On 16/08/2021 11:09 am, Moti Azrad rambled on about the following:

Hi Nimer Jaber,

 

I sure agree with all your words in this letter.

We have to do the best to assist each other and to do all the needed things to keep our life and to protect ourselves.

 

Thanks much

 

Moti

 

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: 16 August, 2021 3:14
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hello everyone,

 

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

 

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

 

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

 

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

Moti Azrad
 

Hi Nimer Jaber,

 

I sure agree with all your words in this letter.

We have to do the best to assist each other and to do all the needed things to keep our life and to protect ourselves.

 

Thanks much

 

Moti

 

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: 16 August, 2021 3:14
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Community Letter

 

Hello everyone,

 

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

 

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

 

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

 

--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


locked Re: Owner's Note: Community Letter

John Altmeyer
 

Nimer, thanks for your kind caring manner of putting things in perspective.  And I also encourage everyone to get vaccinated.  Vaccinations have been proven to be safe and effective.  We don't want to lose you.  Do it for yourself, do it for your loved ones, but pleas get vaccinated.  These are literally tragic times. 


On 08/15/2021 8:14 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello everyone,

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!

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