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Re: Initial Speech Cutoff Using Bluetooth Headphones and NVDA

Gene
 

I would think that Silenzio might work.  I believe I read about an NVDA add-on that deals with this problem as well.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Speech Cutoff Using Bluetooth Headphones and NVDA
 
hi  Bhavya,
there is some amount of loss in speech with nvda when using bluetooth headphones as far as I know there is no fix for it
 
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 23:11, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am currently using NVDA 2021.2 with the Bluetooth Audio add-on
installed and enabled on a Windows 10 machine. With it, I am using a
pair of Bluetooth headphones with my laptop, both of which are
Bluetooth 5.0 compatible. Still, from time to time, especially when I
am reading short stringgs like an alphabet or a monosyllable, the
initial bit of the speech is cut off. Are there any ways to minimize
the cutoff or fix it entirely? Please let me know.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/





 
 
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Gene
 

You have allowed your question to be answered with the additional information.  With my punctuation level set to some, I hear dot if there is something wrong such as if I accidentally have typed two dots instead of one.  I am writing this as constructive criticism and not specifically to criticize you, since I see this happen many times.  When describing a problem, it is important to discuss the conditions and not leave things out.  What you currently stated is an important condition.
 
To hear no periods in the case you describe, dset punctuation level, set with Numpad key, p to none.  I never hear dot spoken no matter if the period is in a link or not with this setting.
 
Gene

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"
 

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Tyler Spivey
 

Symbol level is used in NVDA+p and Punctuation/symbol level in the voice settings, so both are valid. People simply don't test what they write, even if the testing takes a few seconds, so the advice here can be hit or miss.

The reason this happens is because NVDA splits the content before and after the link. Example from the log:

Speaking ['This is a ', 'visited', 'link', 'test', '.']

This log fragment is almost useless, because it shows the processing at too high a level for what we need. But I know that if you write a . on its own NVDA will say dot. So combining those two, we get the behaviour you're seeing.

The speech dictionary is useless here, it it doesn't have enough information about what it's speaking to try to fix it. Nor do addons.
Your only options are:

1. Report an issue on GitHub to get this looked at and maybe fixed.
2. Set your . in Punctuation/symbol pronunciation to level most and send only below symbol's level.
There are two dots, you don't want the . sentence ending.

If you do this, make a note of what the settings were before, because NVDA has no way of restoring these to factory defaults. If you do need to restore these to factory defaults for some reason, delete symbols-en.dic in your NVDA user configuration directory and restart NVDA.
To get there, type %appdata%\nvda into the run dialog or find "Explore NVDA user configuration directory" in the start menu. On my system, it's under All apps, NVDA, or the search box should find it.

On 10/22/2021 10:35 AM, Suhas D wrote:
The punctuation is already set to "some".
I should have added "punctuation Level" instead of "Symbol Level" in the subject.  It got confusing I guess.
I apologize for the mistake.
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On 10/22/2021 22:00, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

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On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without
any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot
in your case

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

Goodreads <https://goodreads.com>.

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That
means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about
setting the general level.  There is more than one case for
determining when a period is spoken.

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code
factory’s elocrash. What are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code
factory’s elocrash. What are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

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*Sent:* Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is
Set to "some"

Hi everyone,

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a
web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any
uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any
success.

Thanks

Suhas
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Changing to Thunderbird and threaded view

Daniel McGee
 

Hello all


Like on my iPhone, is it possible to switch from every message individually and have messages grouped into Conversation threads with thunderbird andNVDA.

Following this question, is it then easy to keep track of the different conversations using this email client plus the above fore mentioned screen reader.

Looking forward to hearing from anyone about this.

kind regards

Daniel


Re: NVDA Responsiveness in Versions of Microsoft Office

Bhavya shah
 

Dear Quentin,

Thanks for your helpful response. I will review the articles you
linked and try to follow their troubleshooting suggestions. In the
meantime, I do want to make sure, as you advised, that all my Word UIA
bugs are reported on GitHub. Currently, I am using the search phrase
"is:issue is:open label:component/UIA-ms-office" which is showing up
only 3 open tickets. Is there another broader or narrower component
for Word UIA? In case there are tickets you are aware of that should
be but are not tagged appropriately, could you add the relevant
components to them?

Thanks.

On 9/28/21, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:
Thanks Quentin for the reminder. I'll admit I'm very new to github, so I
definitely have not checked closely. I'll check again.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:58 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:

Have you checked whether these are all reported on
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Using UIA will become the default in time, so it's important that those
testing things like this, ensure they are reported.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 4:20 PM Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:

I have a feeling that UIA support is still kind of janky at best and is
still under development, and yes, typing is much snappier in word with
UIA
turned on, and this computer has rather limited system resources btw. I
know this isn't quite on topic, but I'll also mention a few things I
noticed in Excel with UIA support turned on, and btw I have both office
16/365 (or something like that) which I got from my college for viewing
narrated powerpoints and office 2007 (I know, I know, it's so old but
that's what my family has). I found the following, particularly with the
newer office version (and sorry I know this is Excel):
- Pressing NVDA+Space does not switch between browse an focus modes.
- Pressing NVDA control C and NVDA control R does not allow you to set
automatic row and column header reading.
- Commands to select an entire row (shift + down arrow) and commands to
select an entire column (control shift down arrow) don't work as
intended.
Instead, I get something like (selected 1 through 1) which isn't right.
And yes, none of these are a problem with UIA turned off.

And a few issues with excel and braille displays (and yes speech is
perfectly fine here):
- When I enter browse mode and navigate between cells, nothing on the
braille display changes but I hear all the contents read out to me in
speech. This is not at all an issue in focus mode (and yes I did report
this on NVDA issue tracker under the name mrsviolafangirl).
- When using the newer version of Excel (and yes this happens no matter
if UIA is enabled or not), when I type into a cell with a braille
display
connected, the contents of what I'm entering is not showing up on the
braille display (but it is spoken just fine in speech) and I have to
press
escape or enter to read what I typed on the braille display. This is a
non
issue in my old MS Excel 2007.
And yes, I'm well aware that the number of people who use braille
displays is quite limited so I totally understand if braille display
issues
are hard to reproduce.

Okay sorry for commenting on excel issues on this thread, but if there's
some little quirks using NVDA with MS office that can use some fixes,
it's
worth mentioning lol.

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Re: Initial Speech Cutoff Using Bluetooth Headphones and NVDA

tim
 

No problems using boes, skull candy headphones or my samsung live buds.

On 10/22/2021 1:48 PM, udit pandey wrote:

hi  Bhavya,
there is some amount of loss in speech with nvda when using bluetooth headphones as far as I know there is no fix for it


On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 23:11, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am currently using NVDA 2021.2 with the Bluetooth Audio add-on
installed and enabled on a Windows 10 machine. With it, I am using a
pair of Bluetooth headphones with my laptop, both of which are
Bluetooth 5.0 compatible. Still, from time to time, especially when I
am reading short stringgs like an alphabet or a monosyllable, the
initial bit of the speech is cut off. Are there any ways to minimize
the cutoff or fix it entirely? Please let me know.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







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Re: Initial Speech Cutoff Using Bluetooth Headphones and NVDA

udit pandey
 

hi  Bhavya,
there is some amount of loss in speech with nvda when using bluetooth headphones as far as I know there is no fix for it


On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 23:11, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am currently using NVDA 2021.2 with the Bluetooth Audio add-on
installed and enabled on a Windows 10 machine. With it, I am using a
pair of Bluetooth headphones with my laptop, both of which are
Bluetooth 5.0 compatible. Still, from time to time, especially when I
am reading short stringgs like an alphabet or a monosyllable, the
initial bit of the speech is cut off. Are there any ways to minimize
the cutoff or fix it entirely? Please let me know.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Suhas D
 

I've tried Espeak, One Core, and SAPI 5. And it's the same everywhere.

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On 10/22/2021 23:12, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Okay, have you tried another synth? Is that the same?

 

 

From: Suhas D
Sent: 22 October 2021 18:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

The punctuation is already set to "some".

I should have added "punctuation Level" instead of "Symbol Level" in the subject.  It got confusing I guess.

I apologize for the mistake.

 

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On 10/22/2021 22:00, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Chris
 

Okay, have you tried another synth? Is that the same?

 

 

From: Suhas D
Sent: 22 October 2021 18:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

The punctuation is already set to "some".

I should have added "punctuation Level" instead of "Symbol Level" in the subject.  It got confusing I guess.

I apologize for the mistake.

 

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On 10/22/2021 22:00, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Initial Speech Cutoff Using Bluetooth Headphones and NVDA

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

I am currently using NVDA 2021.2 with the Bluetooth Audio add-on
installed and enabled on a Windows 10 machine. With it, I am using a
pair of Bluetooth headphones with my laptop, both of which are
Bluetooth 5.0 compatible. Still, from time to time, especially when I
am reading short stringgs like an alphabet or a monosyllable, the
initial bit of the speech is cut off. Are there any ways to minimize
the cutoff or fix it entirely? Please let me know.

Best Regards,
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Stanford University | Class of 2024
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

I can confirm that the issue is present with Espeak-ng.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

I think I've even seen "link dot" as well if the period is outside the link and that's at some for me. I need to play, but I'm using elocrash here. I have not tried with one core or espeak as of yet to see if I can reproduce the issue.


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On 22 Oct 2021, at 9:30, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

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Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Suhas D
 

The punctuation is already set to "some".

I should have added "punctuation Level" instead of "Symbol Level" in the subject.  It got confusing I guess.

I apologize for the mistake.


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On 10/22/2021 22:00, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think I've even seen "link dot" as well if the period is outside the link and that's at some for me. I need to play, but I'm using elocrash here. I have not tried with one core or espeak as of yet to see if I can reproduce the issue.


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On 22 Oct 2021, at 9:30, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

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Learn how to extract images from a PDF with NVDA

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Check out my new video. In this video I show you how to download, install and use a program (watch the video to find out) to extract images from a PDF. You can then convert the images to text with your OCR of choice. Enjoy.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dU9MlAKWjM


Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Chris
 

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 16:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

 

Goodreads

 

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 

 

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

 

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

 

 

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

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Re: Downloading the emoticons for NVDA

Nancy Shackelford
 

I got the problem solved, but I'm glad to have the other links anyway.
I had to click on the Emoticons link and have that as the main page,
then I was able to download the stable version. Again, thanks for the
other links.

Thanks,
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Suhas D
 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case


Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:


Goodreads


On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:
I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.
You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 


Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.


On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?


I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.



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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Sarah k Alawami
 

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Gene
 

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.
You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken.  Open Preferences..
In that menu,find and open punctuation/symbol pronunciation.  Up arrow to it, its faster.
type the period symbol.  Tab twice and set the level to all if it isn’t already.  You will hear the level setting without tabbing.
In the list, type the period symbol again.  There is a dot dot dot symbol.  Don’t change that unless you want the three dot symbol pronounced at a different level. 
Type the period symbol again. 
If this period setting is not for all, set it to all as I described above.
 
When you are finished, tab to and activate the ok button.
Gene
 

Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"
 

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

 

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: Downloading the emoticons for NVDA

Gene
 

I don’t know why you are having a problem.  Have you tried more than one browser?  The link works here.  Try right arrowing so you aren’t on the first letter of the link in your current browser and press enter.  See if that solves the problem.  If not, try another browser.
 
I haven’t looked in any detail at the description of this add-on but NVDA already has the ability to announce emoticons.  You can also place any emoticon in the NVDA list in a document in the following manner:
New main steps start on new lines.
Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n. 
Press enter on  ppreferences.
Up arrow to punctuation/symbol pronunciation.  Press enter.
You are in a dialog.
There are an enornous amount of emoticons and some other symbols.
Shift tab to filter buy and type something.  If you want to see all emoticons with smile, type smile.  Type any word or group of words, for example, smiling face. 
Tab once.  You are now in a list of emoticons containing what you  type.
Find the one you want. 
Press NVDA key f9 once. 
Press NVDA key f10 twice quickly.
The emoticon is now on the clipboard.
Paste it into the document you are writing.
 
The add-on may do other things you want but my description may allow you to do what you want without it.
 
Gene

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 4:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] Downloading the emoticons for NVDA
 
When I hit either Enter or Spacebar on "Download stable version,"
nothing at all happens. Is this down or out of date? it's from the
site whose link is:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md

Thanks

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