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Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada
Quentin Christensen
Have you talked to the company (or developers) about the accessibility of the package? As others have asked, do you know if it uses Jaws scripts to enable it to work with Jaws? If regular navigation isn't getting you around the software, are you familiar with the review cursor and object navigation? They are NVDA concepts for moving around text and objects which is otherwise inaccessible with normal navigation. You can find them in the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA but if you are not already familiar with them, I'd strongly recommend the Basic Training for NVDA which goes into much more depth on them and has exercises and activities to practice your skills: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
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Re: Here we go again!
I just want to add to Quentin's observations that they do not apply exclusively to NVDA. The general purposes of alpha, beta, release candidate, and stable releases of software are the same no matter what the software or who makes it. Some makers do not use (for the public, anyway) alpha or release candidate steps. The "public testing" version is the beta, and there can be several betas as different kinks get worked out.
The idea that either alpha or beta software are "sneak peeks for the curious" with no obligation on the part of those who elect to use them to report issues needs to die a very quick death. Alphas are generally for the development community, almost exclusively, with betas being for the end user community that's willing to put up with instability and bugs, and report those, as part of getting an advance look at what's happening next. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: Here we go again!
Quentin Christensen
We encourage most users to use release candidate builds - unless people point out issues, then basically the release candidate will be identical to the final stable build - it is easier, for various reasons, for us to try to fix something in a release candidate build, than two weeks later in the final stable build. Beta versions we are happy for people to test if they are confident they can get back to their stable version. Alpha versions are really not designed for most users to use. As noted in the thread here, things can break (deliberately or inadvertently) and we don't guarantee stability in alpha builds - though of course we DO want to know about any issues you encounter with those builds :) Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:27 AM Louise Pfau <louise.pfau@...> wrote: Hi. The existence of issues with Alpha and Beta builds is precisely why I now wait for stable versions of software. I have used beta versions and release candidates of NVDA in the past, but I don't want to do that anymore because of the issues. --
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Nimer Jaber
Hello,
I advise any future discussion about this topic to take place on the chat list. THis is off-topic for this group and will be locked. |
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Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?
Jackie
The problem had nothing to do w/NVDA. It was a problem caused by a
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Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada
Richard Kuzma
Just a thought and my two cents Try windows narrator to see what results you get
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jujube
Hi Janet, I'm by no means a certified NVDA trainer or anything of that sort, but I think it'd be useful to know just a bit more information. Maybe this is something NV Access (aka Quentin) may need to assist with? I don't know.
First of all, just out of curiosity you're just using a demo version of JAWS to try it out, right? Second, are any JAWS scripts being used to interact with the program? Third, so am I correct in saying that the program works well with JAWS but NVDA cannot read or find the dialogues, buttons, controls, etc? I believe many programs these days have native keyboard commands or at least the controls are usually visible no matter what screen reader is in use. Also, it may be worth speaking to the developers of the program so it can be easily used with any screen reader.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
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Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada
Jujube
Hi Janet, I'm by no means a certified NVDA trainer or anything of that sort, but I think it'd be useful to know just a bit more information. Maybe this is something NV Access (aka Quentin) may need to assist with? I don't know. First of all, just out of curiosity you're just using a demo version of JAWS to try it out, right? Second, are any JAWS scripts being used to interact with the program? Third, so am I correct in saying that the program works well with JAWS but NVDA cannot read or find the dialogues, buttons, controls, etc? I believe many programs these days have native keyboard commands or at least the controls are usually visible no matter what screen reader is in use. Also, it may be worth speaking to the developers of the program so it can be easily used with any screen reader. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
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Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?
matthew dyer
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I am using firefox with NVDA 2021.2 and not having any problems with firefox here. Matthew On 10/21/2021 6:09 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I am still on Version 2020.3, and didn't update earlier this year because I saw some messages about NVDA and Firefox not playing nicely, and Firefox being my main browser, I was hesitant to update. Now that I'm hearing about possible addon incompatibility, I'm realising I'd better update before I have to go with a new release that breaks anything, even if I don't have the addons that are being singled out. I just wanna be sure things aren't liable to flip out if I update now. |
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Re: Weather plus is unable to download and install
Jarek.Krcmar
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I confirmed the button Yes, but the downloading was cancelled. Thank you for the direct link to download. Jarek Dne 21.10.2021 v 12:59 Adriano Barbieri via groups.io napsal(a):
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Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada
Janet Brandly
Hello,
I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.
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Re: Here we go again!
Louise Pfau
Hi. The existence of issues with Alpha and Beta builds is precisely why I now wait for stable versions of software. I have used beta versions and release candidates of NVDA in the past, but I don't want to do that anymore because of the issues.
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Re: Optacon
Brian Sackrider
When I was at the rehab center back in the 80's I wanted to learn the optacon but they would not teach me along with other things that they refused to teach me. Theese centers are a very big joke they refuse to teach things that their clients really want to learn. I though that I was making progress I was learning to recignising some print letters but because I was not learning fast enough my lessons were stoped. What rite do they have to tell us what we can learn or what we can't learn. They should be closed down they are usless and don't teach hardly anything. I thought that the optacon was a great device that I wanted to learn to use but no go. They seem to be very against learning new technologies that would give us greater independence. It's low tech or no tech.
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Re: Introductory questions about navigating in a browser.
Tony Malykh
Regarding reading webpages I can recommend my TextNav add-on. You can press Alt+Shift+DownArrow to find the text where you can start reading - it works well on most webpages. HTH On 10/20/2021 8:36 AM, Alan Joyce
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Re: what next
Gene
No, this question was about a user who flashed the bios and had to replace
his computer. I am very doubtful it was this list.
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Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:44 AM, tim wrote: Now I forgot was it this list or the blind tech or one of the many windows lists.- It's the NVDA list. And questions do occasionally arise about how to make function keys actually behave as function keys as opposed the the default behavior as action keys for things like increase/decrease volume, etc., that comes as the out of the box default. That most often requires tweaking UEFI/BIOS to reverse. And when someone proposes using a very unusual method for doing so, and for those unfamiliar with UEFI/BIOS to begin with, cautionary statements are necessary. There was also some thread drift, which happens often after an initial query is answered and people begin musing. You, and every other member, have the option to hit the Mute this Topic link in any message at any time if you wish to stop traffic from that topic. At this point, though, the topic has definitely run its course. It should be taken to the Chat Subgroup if further discussion of UEFI/BIOS in general, or Macs in particular, are desired. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: what next
Gene
I think it was Blindtech.
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Now I forgot was it this list or the blind tech or one of the many windows lists. That some one did brick a HP laptop on a BIOS update?
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Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?
Gene
Perhaps a month or more ago, I saw complaints from a very few people
but as I recall, they weren’t confirmed by others. If there is a
problem, it appears to affect very few people. If people are worried, they
can download the new version of NVDA and try it as a portable before deciding
whether to update the installed version, something that might be a good idea if
people really want to be careful.
You can set the installed version not to automatically update. You
can do so with the portable version as well but for what I’m discussing, there’s
no point.
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From: Steve Wettlaufer
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does the latest release play nicely with
Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now,
correct? I'm
curious what is supposed to be wrong with NVDA and Firefox in the latest versions? I'm fairly new to the group here, but I've used NVDA and Firefox happily together for years, always updating to the latest versions of each. On 2021-10-21 6:09 a.m., Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: > I am still on Version 2020.3, and didn't update earlier this year > because I saw some messages about NVDA and Firefox not playing nicely, > and Firefox being my main browser, I was hesitant to update. Now that > I'm hearing about possible addon incompatibility, I'm realising I'd > better update before I have to go with a new release that breaks > anything, even if I don't have the addons that are being singled out. > I just wanna be sure things aren't liable to flip out if I update now. > > > > > > |
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using the voicemeeter control pannel with nvda
Hello. I’m trying to use voice meter banana audio with NVDA except I cannot select my output device per the instructions here. I used screen review but could not rout the mouse to it to click for a drop down. Is there another way to do this? Object review will not work here as it is one huge object according to what I’m seeing here. I want to try and get this working by Saturday if possible.
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Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?
Not that I use NVDA constantly, but when I have used 2021.2 with the latest version of Firefox it was not in any way ill-behaved.
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?
Jujube
Hi, I'm on 2021.2 and using FIrefox and it works great :) so don't hesitate to update. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:09 AM Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote: I am still on Version 2020.3, and didn't update earlier this year |
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Re: what next
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:44 AM, tim wrote:
Now I forgot was it this list or the blind tech or one of the many windows lists.- It's the NVDA list. And questions do occasionally arise about how to make function keys actually behave as function keys as opposed the the default behavior as action keys for things like increase/decrease volume, etc., that comes as the out of the box default. That most often requires tweaking UEFI/BIOS to reverse. And when someone proposes using a very unusual method for doing so, and for those unfamiliar with UEFI/BIOS to begin with, cautionary statements are necessary. There was also some thread drift, which happens often after an initial query is answered and people begin musing. You, and every other member, have the option to hit the Mute this Topic link in any message at any time if you wish to stop traffic from that topic. At this point, though, the topic has definitely run its course. It should be taken to the Chat Subgroup if further discussion of UEFI/BIOS in general, or Macs in particular, are desired. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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