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remote and NVDA2019.3

Mark <marktyler2014@...>
 

Hi can someone send me the url for the remote version witch works on this version  of nvda

Mark.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Buddy Brannan
Sent: 08 February 2020 20:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

 

While this is true, there was no specific braille display specification. That wasn’t finalized until mid-2018. Yes, Handytech and theAlva BC640 did use an HID interface, as did the Refreshabraille, and yes, they were well ahead of the curve in that respect. But what we’re talking about here is the new HID specification specifically for refreshable braille displays, which was only finalized in 2018. I see commitments (with a google search) from Vespero, Hims, and Dolphin, all positive signs. I don’t know if any of them have actually implemented the specification or not though.

 

 

 

Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA

Email: buddy@...

Mobile: (814) 431-0962

 

 

 

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

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> The Handy Tech, or better, Help Tech Braille displays use HID long before Orbit Reader...

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> Rui Fontes

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> Às 17:54 de 08/02/2020, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:

>> With apologies - I forgot to paste the link:

>> https://blog.freedomscientific.com/usbhid1/

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>> On 2/8/20, 12:54, "Jason White via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jason@...> wrote:

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>>     We can add Vispero to the list:

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>>     On 2/8/20, 11:37, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@...> wrote:

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>>         So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.

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>>         Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA

>>         Email: buddy@...

>>         Mobile: (814) 431-0962

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>>         > On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

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>>         > I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.

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>>         > If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.

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>>         > On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@...> wrote:

>>         >

>>         >    Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.

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>>         >    Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA

>>         >    Email: buddy@...

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Re: place markers

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

stew,

With jaws2020 I have the same problem, but only on a specific website we
use at work named Service-now.

With jaws2019 I don't have this problem.
Are you using jaws2020 too and is it also happening with 2019?

Marten

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 11:09:22 -0500 "cecropia64" <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:

hi folks:


i am having an issue with place markers.  when i make a place marker on a website it is all good.  but after a bunch of usages they don't hold their places anymore.  it tells me where the marker is listed but i find that when hitting enter nothing happens.  when i scroll down i find i am nowhere near the link i set the place marker at.  does anyone know what is happening and how i can fix this issue?  thanks


stew



Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Buddy Brannan
 

While this is true, there was no specific braille display specification. That wasn’t finalized until mid-2018. Yes, Handytech and theAlva BC640 did use an HID interface, as did the Refreshabraille, and yes, they were well ahead of the curve in that respect. But what we’re talking about here is the new HID specification specifically for refreshable braille displays, which was only finalized in 2018. I see commitments (with a google search) from Vespero, Hims, and Dolphin, all positive signs. I don’t know if any of them have actually implemented the specification or not though.



Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

The Handy Tech, or better, Help Tech Braille displays use HID long before Orbit Reader...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:54 de 08/02/2020, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:
With apologies - I forgot to paste the link:
https://blog.freedomscientific.com/usbhid1/

On 2/8/20, 12:54, "Jason White via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

We can add Vispero to the list:

On 2/8/20, 11:37, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962



> On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.
>
> If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.
>
> On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:
>
> Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.
>
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> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Email: buddy@brannan.name
> Mobile: (814) 431-0962
>
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>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>
>> Not Baum--they are history
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Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Rui Fontes
 

The Handy Tech, or better, Help Tech Braille displays use HID long before Orbit Reader...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:54 de 08/02/2020, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:

With apologies - I forgot to paste the link:
https://blog.freedomscientific.com/usbhid1/

On 2/8/20, 12:54, "Jason White via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

We can add Vispero to the list:

On 2/8/20, 11:37, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962



> On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.
>
> If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.
>
> On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:
>
> Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.
>
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> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Email: buddy@brannan.name
> Mobile: (814) 431-0962
>
>
>
>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>
>> Not Baum--they are history
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Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I have had it take away exe files such as flight following and do it with out warning. And that by the way is with pythin 3.

Take care

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On 7 Feb 2020, at 22:18, zahra wrote:

Shaun,
did i understand it correctly?
i think that antivirus programs especially microsoft products,
scan the entire system and maybe remove our necessary and important
files even maybe nvda or even other files including html, docx, audio
and video files?
i remember that in one of the iranian websites,
someone recorded a tutorial which explained how to exclude our desired
folders from scanning by deffender.
his tutorial was for windows ten.
does windows deffender on windows 8 and 8.1 does the same things, and
it may removes our essential and important files without worning or
informing us about this matter?

On 2/8/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Yeah some of that software uses autoit and that is known to make viruses.

At any rate its clunkey and slow as a language so I wouldn't bother
using programs written in it but you should be able to exclude things.

Yeah when microsoft security etc cleans things it turns user account
control on at 33% by default.



On 8/02/2020 3:41 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Quenton,

In addition, I always have Defender set to update to the latest
version. I have had odd issues with it in the past. If you are
familiar with Steve's Clock, Defender flagged that consistently. Even
after I allowed it under Defender settings, every time Windows
updates, it flags it again. I had to go into the settings and
manually exempt the Steve's clock folder from Defender scans. Even
then, it always brings up User Account Control when I run it. It
never comes up in start up--even though I have it set to run at start
up. I have reported this to both the program developer and Microsoft
with no change. I am glad that this isn't happening with NVDA on my
system.


On 2/7/2020 1:00 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I believe this only affects Windows 10 at this stage? Perhaps
Rosemarie and Ron are using Windows 7? Or their Defender hasn't
updated to the latest definitions maybe?

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:30 PM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...
<mailto:aa2vm@...>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I also do not have this issue with RC3.


On 2/7/2020 12:28 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Quentin,

I'm not having this problem on my system. I'm using espeak but I
wonder if I should use something else just to be on the safe side.

Rosemarie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

Hi folks,

It was NVDARemote the other week, now it seems it's our turn for
Microsoft's random unfounded accusations. If you try to install
the release candidate of NVDA 2019.3, Windows Defender will
alert you it has found a trojan in eSpeak NG and blocked it.
The install of NVDA will fail.

As a workaround for now, you can create a portable copy of the
RC and that should run fine. You won't be able to use eSpeak NG.

NVDA 2019.2.1 installs and runs fine, even using eSpeak NG (it
uses a different build of eSpeak NG).

I am not sure whether this affects Windows 7 users as well. I
have reported it to Microsoft but I would encourage everyone
else to as well. To be honest, even aside from it being our
program affected, this really annoys me. Defender has NOT found
a trojan in eSpeak, its heuristic (machine learning) has guessed
that it looks a bit suspicious and flagged it - Ok that happens,
but say that, don't say absolutely that a known malicious
software has been found.

It took a day or so to fix Defender's virus list and have
NVDARemote cleared, so I expect it will probably be within about
the same timeline this time around. Apologies for the
inconvenience.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

Brian Sackrider
 

    I have not had this issue and I have the latest version of windows 10 and the latest update for windows security I check for updates every morning when I turn my computer on.  This is one of theese things that effects some users and not others.

Brian Sackrider

On 2/7/2020 1:00 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I believe this only affects Windows 10 at this stage?  Perhaps Rosemarie and Ron are using Windows 7?  Or their Defender hasn't updated to the latest definitions maybe?

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:30 PM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Group,

I also do not have this issue with RC3.


On 2/7/2020 12:28 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I'm not having this problem on my system. I'm using espeak but I wonder if I should use something else just to be on the safe side.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

 

Hi folks,

 

It was NVDARemote the other week, now it seems it's our turn for Microsoft's random unfounded accusations.  If you try to install the release candidate of NVDA 2019.3, Windows Defender will alert you it has found a trojan in eSpeak NG and blocked it.  The install of NVDA will fail.

 

As a workaround for now, you can create a portable copy of the RC and that should run fine.  You won't be able to use eSpeak NG.

 

NVDA 2019.2.1 installs and runs fine, even using eSpeak NG (it uses a different build of eSpeak NG).

 

I am not sure whether this affects Windows 7 users as well.  I have reported it to Microsoft but I would encourage everyone else to as well.  To be honest, even aside from it being our program affected, this really annoys me.  Defender has NOT found a trojan in eSpeak, its heuristic (machine learning) has guessed that it looks a bit suspicious and flagged it - Ok that happens, but say that, don't say absolutely that a known malicious software has been found.

 

It took a day or so to fix Defender's virus list and have NVDARemote cleared, so I expect it will probably be within about the same timeline this time around.  Apologies for the inconvenience.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Jason White
 

With apologies - I forgot to paste the link:
https://blog.freedomscientific.com/usbhid1/

On 2/8/20, 12:54, "Jason White via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

We can add Vispero to the list:

On 2/8/20, 11:37, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.
>
> If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.
>
> On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:
>
> Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.
>
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> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Email: buddy@brannan.name
> Mobile: (814) 431-0962
>
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>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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>> Not Baum--they are history
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Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Jason White
 

We can add Vispero to the list:

On 2/8/20, 11:37, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.
>
> If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.
>
> On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:
>
> Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.
>
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> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Email: buddy@brannan.name
> Mobile: (814) 431-0962
>
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>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Buddy Brannan
 

So far, Orbit Research is the only one from whom I’ve seen any sort of announcement, and that being they’re the first to implement the new USB braille display specification. The question then becomes, which screen reader manufacturers are taking advantage of it? So…yeah, great that at least one manufacturer has implemented. I *think* NVDA and Narrator support it. Maybe that means it’s built into Windows. I recall Apple was involved in the implementation of the standard, but I don’t know if it’s been built into OS X or not. Since it appears to be USB and not bluetooth, it is probably not on iOS. So it seems to me that getting the standard fully realized is not going to be a short or easy process, though I’m glad it’s at least started.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.

If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.

On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962



On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Not Baum--they are history









Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Jason White
 

I read an announcement some time ago about a new USB standard for braille devices. If I remember correctly, it was part of the HID standard.

If braille display manufacturers implement the standard, then many of these issues with screen reader compatibility will go away. I don't know which manufacturers plan to implement, however.

On 2/8/20, 10:55, "Buddy Brannan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Not Baum--they are history
>


place markers

cecropia64
 

hi folks:


i am having an issue with place markers.  when i make a place marker on a website it is all good.  but after a bunch of usages they don't hold their places anymore.  it tells me where the marker is listed but i find that when hitting enter nothing happens.  when i scroll down i find i am nowhere near the link i set the place marker at.  does anyone know what is happening and how i can fix this issue?  thanks


stew


Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Buddy Brannan
 

Dunno about that. Weren’t their assets purchased by another company not long after they went away in 2017-2018? So they may emerge again, but no idea when or what form that will take, if any.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@brannan.name
Mobile: (814) 431-0962

On Feb 8, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io <briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Not Baum--they are history


Re: Braille me and NVDA2019.3?

Brian Tew
 

Not Baum--they are history


Re: My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello Cordelia,


ou sure can, but I'm a newbie, so I don't know how much help I can give...

Always very wililng, though...


Ciao,

Ollie

On 08/02/2020 09:45, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:
Hi, Ollie:

A search on the Internet for "patch" or "driver" for your Braille display and NVDA might expedite it. If there is nothing, then contacting them would be more than necessary as this is an urgent matter.

May I contact you offlist about Linux-related queries?

Cordially,
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2020 12:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA

Hello Cordelia,


Thanks. I'lltry and contact them, but I had no luck a couple of years
ago about some other issue I had, so I'm afraid it's goingto be a bit of
a waste of time.


Touchme5 works great in Linux, so I might try and see if installing
BRLTTY for Windows solvesthe problem, at least temorarily.


Take care,

Ollie




On 07/02/2020 22:50, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:
Hi, Ollie:

I don't know/use the Seika Braile display. However, you might ask its manufacturer if they have released a new patch that would be compatible with the new NVDA software. If they have not done so yet, it is high time to alert them of this problem and see it fixed.

Best of luck,
Cordelia


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA


Hello all,


I'm using NVDA Alphas. For qite some time now, my Seika Touchme5 no
longer works as expected.

I'm unable to scroll horizontally, whetehr I set it to Automatic or Seika.


Are tehre any tips to make this work?


I have to use an old and battered pm 40 by freedom Scientific, which has
a number of cells with dots that either don't come up or don't go down
when needed. This makes it really difficult to read in different languages.


thanks for any help ou can provide.


Ciao,

Ollie









Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

let me no what it is

On 2/8/20, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi, Betsy.

Do you know the name of the addon you were formerly using which had the
Eloquence voice. I ask because you can continue to use the Eloquence
voices with NVDA 2019.3 if that is a voice that you prefer.

If you are using the Eloquence/Vocalizer addon from CodeFactory then you
can continue to use it with NVDA 2019.3 but you will need to download a
newer version of the addon, which you can get to from this link.
<https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/> I was able to
do this and I now have Eloquence working with 2019.3. You will likely
need to reactivate the license but it can be done.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/4/2020 2:33 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I just took the time and updated to the latest for NVDA. Everything
seems to be working well. I miss Eloquence and wish it could have
remained but am getting used to David. He sounds decent. Thank you for
making the installation so easy for a novice such as myself. I would
like to thank all those who work on keeping NVDA so easy for us to
use. Please make sure everyone involved gets my thanks.



On 2/4/2020 4:42 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Quentin,

I downloaded and installed the RC and I am very pleased so far. The
licence agreement at the start and the automatic speech was very
impressive. I actually listened to the whole agreement!

I had not seen the speech control and selection before so this looks
new to me. It gives so many choices that it should be possible for a
comfortable voice to be found. I prefer Eloquence and had been
running the add-on up to now. I have achieved almost the same voice
that I am used to so I'll see how that settles down for my ear!

Congratulations to the whole team and thanks for all the hard work.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie








Re: My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello Joseph,


Grat, thanks a lot.

I'll wait and only use it in Linux then.

Ciao, ake care, and thanks for all your continued and supervaluable work for our community.

Ollie

On 08/02/2020 12:00, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Seika developers are aware of incompatibilities and are working on it.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 12:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA

Hi, Ollie:

A search on the Internet for "patch" or "driver" for your Braille display and NVDA might expedite it. If there is nothing, then contacting them would be more than necessary as this is an urgent matter.

May I contact you offlist about Linux-related queries?

Cordially,
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2020 12:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA

Hello Cordelia,


Thanks. I'lltry and contact them, but I had no luck a couple of years ago about some other issue I had, so I'm afraid it's goingto be a bit of a waste of time.


Touchme5 works great in Linux, so I might try and see if installing BRLTTY for Windows solvesthe problem, at least temorarily.


Take care,

Ollie




On 07/02/2020 22:50, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:
Hi, Ollie:

I don't know/use the Seika Braile display. However, you might ask its manufacturer if they have released a new patch that would be compatible with the new NVDA software. If they have not done so yet, it is high time to alert them of this problem and see it fixed.

Best of luck,
Cordelia


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA


Hello all,


I'm using NVDA Alphas. For qite some time now, my Seika Touchme5 no
longer works as expected.

I'm unable to scroll horizontally, whetehr I set it to Automatic or Seika.


Are tehre any tips to make this work?


I have to use an old and battered pm 40 by freedom Scientific, which has
a number of cells with dots that either don't come up or don't go down
when needed. This makes it really difficult to read in different languages.


thanks for any help ou can provide.


Ciao,

Ollie












Re: NVDA Not Working with CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra 19

 

What any screen reader user needs to understand is that issues of inaccessibility can originate with the screen reader itself, the software you're trying to use it to control, or both.

Your request is not unreasonable, but be aware that it may have nothing to do with NVDA (or any other screen reader) and may have everything to do with something the folks at CyberLink have done (or not done) with PowerDVD Ultra 19.

There are times, of course, where both sides of the equation will have tweaks that must be made.
--

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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


NVDA Not Working with CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra 19

Chris
 

Since PowerDVD Ultra 19 is a popular Windows program for Blu-ray and DVD video playback, adding compatibility with NVDA would allow sight-impared users to access and change preferences, perform functions within a movie or an album, etc..  If there is an NVDA add-on for this program, please let me know.  Since this is my first post here, I understand it might not make it to the group and needs time for approval.  If I get approved, I'd be happy to post this again if this post doesn't make  it to the group.  Ultimately, I hope the developers of NVDA are reading this and will be able to add support for CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra version 19 and beyond to NVDA.

        Thank you,

    Chris


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Betsy.

Do you know the name of the addon you were formerly using which had the Eloquence voice. I ask because you can continue to use the Eloquence voices with NVDA 2019.3 if that is a voice that you prefer.

If you are using the Eloquence/Vocalizer addon from CodeFactory then you can continue to use it with NVDA 2019.3 but you will need to download a newer version of the addon, which you can get to from this link. I was able to do this and I now have Eloquence working with 2019.3. You will likely need to reactivate the license but it can be done.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/4/2020 2:33 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I just took the time and updated to the latest for NVDA. Everything seems to be working well. I miss Eloquence and wish it could have remained but am getting used to David. He sounds decent. Thank you for making the installation so easy for a novice such as myself. I would like to thank all those who work on keeping NVDA so easy for us to use. Please make sure everyone involved gets my thanks.



On 2/4/2020 4:42 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Quentin,

I downloaded and installed the RC and I am very pleased so far. The licence agreement at the start and the automatic speech was very impressive. I actually listened to the whole agreement!

I had not seen the speech control and selection before so this looks new to me. It gives so many choices that it should be possible for a comfortable voice to be found. I prefer Eloquence and had been running the add-on up to now. I have achieved almost the same voice that I am used to so I'll see how that settles down for my ear!

Congratulations to the whole team and thanks for all the hard work.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...







Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

David Goldfield
 

Zahra,

There is always a risk that antimalware programs may accidentally remove an important program or a component of a program because it could mistakenly conclude that the program in question is malware. It has happened and there have been occasions where a program or other component of a screen reader was mistakenly flagged as a virus. However, this type of occurrence, while extremely inconvenient when it happens, is also extremely rare. I've been using computers running Windows since 1994 and have used a variety of antivirus programs during that time and I have never had my screen reader flagged as a virus or trojan. Yes, it can happen but the risk of this happening is low. However, if you plan on using a computer for anything more than writing simple documents trust me when I say that having a good antimalware solution running on your computer is absolutely essential and the benefits far outweigh these small risks. A doctor may mistakenly diagnose your cold symptoms for a more serious condition but the benefits of regularly seeing a physician far outweigh such risks. Windows Defender is now a very good security program. I would encourage you to just enjoy using your computer and to know that, if such a false positive does occur, the developer of that piece of software will do everything to ensure that their software is no longer flagged as a virus as soon as the antimalware vendor can be shown that a mistake has been made.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/8/2020 1:18 AM, zahra wrote:
Shaun,
did i understand it correctly?
i think that antivirus programs especially microsoft products,
scan the entire system and maybe remove our necessary and important
files even maybe nvda or even other files including html, docx, audio
and video files?
i remember that in one of the iranian websites,
someone recorded a tutorial which explained how to exclude our desired
folders from scanning by deffender.
his tutorial was for windows ten.
does windows deffender on windows 8 and 8.1 does the same things, and
it may removes our essential and important files without worning or
informing us about this matter?

On 2/8/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah some of that software uses autoit and that is known to make viruses.

At any rate its clunkey and slow as a language so I wouldn't bother
using programs written in it but you should be able to exclude things.

Yeah when microsoft security etc cleans things it turns user account
control on at 33% by default.



On 8/02/2020 3:41 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Quenton,

In addition, I always have Defender set to update to the latest
version. I have had odd issues with it in the past. If you are
familiar with Steve's Clock, Defender flagged that consistently. Even
after I allowed it under Defender settings, every time Windows
updates, it flags it again. I had to go into the settings and
manually exempt the Steve's clock folder from Defender scans. Even
then, it always brings up User Account Control when I run it. It
never comes up in start up--even though I have it set to run at start
up. I have reported this to both the program developer and Microsoft
with no change. I am glad that this isn't happening with NVDA on my
system.


On 2/7/2020 1:00 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I believe this only affects Windows 10 at this stage? Perhaps
Rosemarie and Ron are using Windows 7? Or their Defender hasn't
updated to the latest definitions maybe?

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:30 PM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com
<mailto:aa2vm@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I also do not have this issue with RC3.


On 2/7/2020 12:28 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Quentin,

I'm not having this problem on my system. I'm using espeak but I
wonder if I should use something else just to be on the safe side.

Rosemarie

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan

Hi folks,

It was NVDARemote the other week, now it seems it's our turn for
Microsoft's random unfounded accusations. If you try to install
the release candidate of NVDA 2019.3, Windows Defender will
alert you it has found a trojan in eSpeak NG and blocked it.
The install of NVDA will fail.

As a workaround for now, you can create a portable copy of the
RC and that should run fine. You won't be able to use eSpeak NG.

NVDA 2019.2.1 installs and runs fine, even using eSpeak NG (it
uses a different build of eSpeak NG).

I am not sure whether this affects Windows 7 users as well. I
have reported it to Microsoft but I would encourage everyone
else to as well. To be honest, even aside from it being our
program affected, this really annoys me. Defender has NOT found
a trojan in eSpeak, its heuristic (machine learning) has guessed
that it looks a bit suspicious and flagged it - Ok that happens,
but say that, don't say absolutely that a known malicious
software has been found.

It took a day or so to fix Defender's virus list and have
NVDARemote cleared, so I expect it will probably be within about
the same timeline this time around. Apologies for the
inconvenience.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:

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