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Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

Luke Davis
 

enes sarıbaş wrote:

You actually can get images, links and headings ETC. Finereader is able to do this.
I sit corrected. I have never used that product, so wasn't aware.

Links, as raw http addresses, I can understand. For domain names, it's easy enough; but when you get to things after the first slash or question mark, they tend to get hairy, and you are at the mercy of the recognition engine--one character goes wrong, and poof.

Luke
Re: NVDA and Ardour

Luke Davis
 

Shaun Everiss wrote:

Of course you can build this yourself but they simply don't tell you how to build this for windows.
Though there is this (pay special attention to the comments):
https://discourse.ardour.org/t/building-ardour-on-windows-with-msys2/88079

But that said, Shaun is right. Unless Ardour really does something that just nothing else on the planet can do--and I find that very unlikely--almost any other solution is going to be preferable to going down this path.

Try Audacity.
If it's not enough, pay for Reaper. It's worth it in time if not in features, and it is worth it in features.

Luke
Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

enes sarıbaş
 

You actually can get images, links and headings ETC. Finereader is able to do this.

On 4/30/2021 3:00 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
If they really are image PDFs, then you will never get what you want.

If you use OCR software on them (others can suggest what OCR software is best these days; I don't use OCR packages on Windows), you can get some version of the text out of these.
For example, if I process an image PDF through KNFB reader, or one of the network based recognition apps, I can get somewhere between a 70 percent and 95 percent accurate recognition of the contents.

NVDA's built in OCR feature (NVDA+R) can possibly read these one page at a time, although it's not designed for full document recognition.

However you won't get links and headings and all of that. Software simply isn't smart enough to figure out which pictures of text are supposed to become those formatting and connective elements.

Also, while I could be mistaken about this, I don't believe an image PDF can have links.

Lastly, this is not an NVDA problem. You probably want to take this conversation to a general Windows list or the chat subgroup.

Luke

"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.  I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
Re: NVDA and Ardour

Shaun Everiss
 

I have looked at ardour.

The issue is gtk.

Gtk is a linux library, and software made by gtk is not accessible at least not in windows.

Worse to get a copy of this you need to pay for it if you want a full compiled with no limits version.

Of course you can build this yourself but they simply don't tell you how to build this for windows.


I personally wouldn't bother.



On 2/05/2021 1:13 am, Ted Galanos wrote:

I have never heard of Arthur, however, I do provide tutorial services for anyone that wants to learn audacity whether you are a jawsor an NVDA user.

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On May 1, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

I have not tried it in a decade, and that was under Linux no less, but I found it very inaccessible at that time. I switched to Audacity, which is also totally free.

But the nice thing about totally free software, is that you can try it for yourself and not lose anything but time.

Luke

"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.  I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
How to set global shortcut keys when using NVDA and MPC-BE together

Rowen Cary
 

Hello,

I'm using MPC-BE to play videos, but sometimes I need to use global shortcuts to control the player. I found the option to set shortcuts in settings and set a shortcut using NVDA's table navigation, but it doesn't seem to work globally.
The checkbox for Global Media Shortcuts is checked, but I think the checkbox only applies to media shortcuts on the keyboard.
Also when setting the shortcut, nvda becomes unresponsive, can I assume this is an accessibility issue with MPC-BE itself? So I have to use the mouse to complete the setting.

Thanks.
 
Re: NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

Brian Vogel
 

What I'm about to propose is not NVDA-specific, because this issue is not likely NVDA-specific.  I use MS David and it should "come with" under a correctly functioning Windows 10 installation in "out of the box" state.  That it's not there suggests a Windows 10 corruption of some sort.  And the way I'd try to solve this particular issue with missing voices is, in order:

1. Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

2. Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

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Re: NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

Jackie
 

Hello, Bill. Please do the folowing:
1) Go to settings (windows key + i) then to 'time & language' & press enter.
2) From there, arrow down to 'speech' & press enter.
3) Tab to the 'add voices' button & activate.
4) Arrow down through the voice languages, press spacebar on the 1 you
want, then tab to the 'add' button & activate it.

On 5/1/21, Bill Chilcott via groups.io
<maybill@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie. I'm afraid that didn't work. That only allows me to install one
of the voices that are already in the list, but my problem is the voices I
used to have are not there. So therefore I need to download the extra
voices. Can you give me a step by step guide as to how to do this. Thanks
for your help so far.
Bill.




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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: 30 April 2021 05:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

A couple things here, Bill.

1) Please go to your synthesizer settings in NVDA & press control +
NVDA key + s, or press NVDA + n > preferences > settings > speech &
then tab to & activate the change button. Either way, you should now
be in the synthesizer dialog.

2) Arrow down to "1 core voices" & press enter.

3)Tab once to voice & choose the 1 you want. Make other changes as
desired. Press ok twice.

Please let us know if that doesn't work for you, as you may need to
install the 1-core voices, & I didn't go over that here.

On 4/30/21, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...>
wrote:
The most obvious thing to try is to restart NVDA and if that doesnt work
then RESTART the laptop

And finally if all else fails then remove and add the voices again



From: Bill Chilcott via groups.io
Sent: 30 April 2021 16:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

Hi folks. I have just changed my laptop and, on re-installing NVDA
Windows
one core voices, I noticed I have not got David, Susan and Mark. Is there
any way of getting these voices back, especially David, which I used all
the
time? Any help over this would be gratefully appreciated.
Regards, Bill.













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Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

Dr. arvind singh brar
 

Hi; open the document in acrobat reader ; then press nvda key plus L; to OCR it and read the text;hth

No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
Reading desktop iems.

Bill Chilcott
 

Hi folks. At the moment I am using the Daniel voice. Unfortunately when I
select an icon on desktop, Daniel only reads the first letter of the icon,
so I don't know whether I'm on the one I want. Is there any way I can make
Daniel read the whole word.
Any help would be appreciated.
Bill.
Re: NVDA and Ardour

Chris Smart
 

Try Reaper. I can guarantee it will do more than anything you can think up to try, and it's cheap and fully accessible.

On 2021-05-01 2:45 a.m., Marco Oros wrote:
Hello.

Maybe You have heard about It. I don't know, if It'll be possible to make Ardour accessible with NVDA. Ardour is a digital audio workstation software, which is opensource, like NVDA. I don't know what to do to make this software accessible for the blind. So I don't know, if It'll be good to contact with developers, who hasn't any experiences with software for the blind people. Ofcourse, there is Reaper, but Ardour is totally free and It'll be maybe sometimes good option to make Ardour for free.

Thank You.

Best regards from Slovakia

Marco Oros
Re: NVDA and Ardour

Ted Galanos
 

I have never heard of Arthur, however, I do provide tutorial services for anyone that wants to learn audacity whether you are a jawsor an NVDA user.

Ted Galanos
www.GalanosConsulting.com
713-396-3495
Please consider donating to my ABLE account. 
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On May 1, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

I have not tried it in a decade, and that was under Linux no less, but I found it very inaccessible at that time. I switched to Audacity, which is also totally free.

But the nice thing about totally free software, is that you can try it for yourself and not lose anything but time.

Luke

"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.  I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
Re: NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

Bill Chilcott
 

Hi Jackie. I'm afraid that didn't work. That only allows me to install one of the voices that are already in the list, but my problem is the voices I used to have are not there. So therefore I need to download the extra voices. Can you give me a step by step guide as to how to do this. Thanks for your help so far.
Bill.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: 30 April 2021 05:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

A couple things here, Bill.

1) Please go to your synthesizer settings in NVDA & press control +
NVDA key + s, or press NVDA + n > preferences > settings > speech &
then tab to & activate the change button. Either way, you should now
be in the synthesizer dialog.

2) Arrow down to "1 core voices" & press enter.

3)Tab once to voice & choose the 1 you want. Make other changes as
desired. Press ok twice.

Please let us know if that doesn't work for you, as you may need to
install the 1-core voices, & I didn't go over that here.

On 4/30/21, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
The most obvious thing to try is to restart NVDA and if that doesnt work
then RESTART the laptop

And finally if all else fails then remove and add the voices again



From: Bill Chilcott via groups.io
Sent: 30 April 2021 16:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA - Missing OneCore Voices on New Laptop

Hi folks. I have just changed my laptop and, on re-installing NVDA Windows
one core voices, I noticed I have not got David, Susan and Mark. Is there
any way of getting these voices back, especially David, which I used all
the
time? Any help over this would be gratefully appreciated.
Regards, Bill.













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Re: NVDA and Ardour

Shaun Everiss
 

I just chhecked this thing out.


Firstly you need to pay for the full version.

Next they don't want you to compile yourself on windows just linux.

Even if you could it uses gtk.

Gtk has accessibility but basically you would have to take out gtk and use something else, its not worthh it, anyway reaper has allready something for it.

On 1/05/2021 6:45 pm, Marco Oros wrote:
Hello.

Maybe You have heard about It. I don't know, if It'll be possible to make Ardour accessible with NVDA. Ardour is a digital audio workstation software, which is opensource, like NVDA. I don't know what to do to make this software accessible for the blind. So I don't know, if It'll be good to contact with developers, who hasn't any experiences with software for the blind people. Ofcourse, there is Reaper, but Ardour is totally free and It'll be maybe sometimes good option to make Ardour for free.

Thank You.

Best regards from Slovakia

Marco Oros
Re: NVDA and Ardour

Luke Davis
 

I have not tried it in a decade, and that was under Linux no less, but I found it very inaccessible at that time. I switched to Audacity, which is also totally free.

But the nice thing about totally free software, is that you can try it for yourself and not lose anything but time.

Luke

"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

ss sarfudeen
 

Dear Members,

Thank you all for your suggestions and inputs. Will try one of these
recommendations and see if it solves my purpose.

With kind regards,

Sultana

On 5/1/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs (
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/33512 )
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NVDA and Ardour

Marco Oros
 

Hello.

Maybe You have heard about It. I don't know, if It'll be possible to make Ardour accessible with NVDA. Ardour is a digital audio workstation software, which is opensource, like NVDA. I don't know what to do to make this software accessible for the blind. So I don't know, if It'll be good to contact with developers, who hasn't any experiences with software for the blind people. Ofcourse, there is Reaper, but Ardour is totally free and It'll be maybe sometimes good option to make Ardour for free.

Thank You.

Best regards from Slovakia

Marco Oros
Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

Brian Vogel
 

Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs
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Re: Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

Try Abbyyy Finereader. It is very accurate.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ss sarfudeen
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Require help to convert image PDFs into text PDF documents

Dear list members,

I have an image or a scanned PDF document which I am unable to read using NVDA. When I open it with Acrobat reader and try to read it with NVDA, I am not able to make sense of the document. I would like to know the method or the program with which I can convert it in to an accessible PDF document with proper alignment of the links, headings, tables and the text.
Your inputs are highly appreciated.

Thanking you for any and all assistance,

Regards,

Sultana






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Re: 10 years with NVDA

Monte Single
 

Hi Marco,

 

I have my email filters set  to “accept all”

I see nothing in spam or junk folders.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: April 30, 2021 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 10 years with NVDA

 

OK.

I have contacted You.

 Please, try to check also Spamm folder.

Marco

 

Dňa 30. 4. 2021 o 2:39 Quentin Christensen napísal(a):

Hi Marco,

 

We at NV Access would also be interested in your story.  We publish them on our website in the NVDA Stories category: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/NVDA-stories/

 

I'd be interested in following up with you to put something together if you'd like to write to me offlist (info@...) as well.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:45 AM Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:

Hi Marco,

I can help you with your nvda document,  that is, I can make corrections for accurate, and clear English.

You can write me off list at;

mrsingle@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: April 29, 2021 8:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] 10 years with NVDA

Hello.

I have noticed, that It 10 Years ago I have started to use NVDA and abandom of Jaws. Currently I am using NVDA too.

I would like to write a review about NVDA screen reader with little storry, how It begins ETC. I'll write It in Slovak (My mother tongue), but I would like to plann mostly write It in English, because English is one of world languages and NVDA was developed in Australia.

But, why I want to tell It to You? I have a blog, but maybe It'll be better to send It to another blog and edit It a little, because I am not English native speaker, althought I can communicate in English very good.

I think, that somebody will help me.

Thank You.

Best regards from Slovakia

Marco Oros











 

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Re: 10 years with NVDA

Marco Oros
 

OK.

I have contacted You.

 Please, try to check also Spamm folder.

Marco


Dňa 30. 4. 2021 o 2:39 Quentin Christensen napísal(a):

Hi Marco,

We at NV Access would also be interested in your story.  We publish them on our website in the NVDA Stories category: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/NVDA-stories/

I'd be interested in following up with you to put something together if you'd like to write to me offlist (info@...) as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:45 AM Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Marco,

I can help you with your nvda document,  that is, I can make corrections for accurate, and clear English.

You can write me off list at;

mrsingle@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: April 29, 2021 8:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] 10 years with NVDA

Hello.

I have noticed, that It 10 Years ago I have started to use NVDA and abandom of Jaws. Currently I am using NVDA too.

I would like to write a review about NVDA screen reader with little storry, how It begins ETC. I'll write It in Slovak (My mother tongue), but I would like to plann mostly write It in English, because English is one of world languages and NVDA was developed in Australia.

But, why I want to tell It to You? I have a blog, but maybe It'll be better to send It to another blog and edit It a little, because I am not English native speaker, althought I can communicate in English very good.

I think, that somebody will help me.

Thank You.

Best regards from Slovakia

Marco Oros













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