Ribbon cutting: let the list migration commence
#adminnotice
Hi folks, In about an hour from now, you’ll get a message from me announcing the grand opening of this list (trial period is over, which means the list is open for business). Please try not sending too many test messages, and please be courteous when someone does send test messages as some would like to test the new interface. Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
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Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!
Dear members of the NVDA Community around the world:
My name is Joseph S. Lee, one of the contributors to NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) screen reader project and one of the admins of the NVDA International users list. On behalf of NVDA list admins, I’d like to thank you all for your continued support for NVDA, and to thank you users for your continued devotion to NVDA and making it become part of lives of more blind and visually impaired users around the world.
As we the NVDA community is in the midst of a celebration of ten years of screen reading excellence, and to upgrade the user support experience of NVDA and for ease of list management, members of the NVDA International list have agreed to move our users list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Founded in 2014 and currently operating in live beta, Groups.IO provides features not found in Freelists, such as calendar events and periodic notifications, group wikis powered by Markdown, polls, databases, integration with services such as Dropbox, Github and others and more. This service also makes it easier to search list archives from the web interface, hashtags for ease or archiving, streamlined list subscription process, RSS feeds and subgroups (focus groups for specialized topics). Most importantly, the staff at Groups.IO are committed to accessibility out of the box, and much work has gone to make list management, web interface and other features accessible to list admins and members who are screen reader users. Although Freelists provides more advanced control over list management, we the members of the NVDA users list believe that Groups.IO provides long-term benefits thanks to accessibility commitments and features listed above.
Thus, effective immediately, the Freelists version of NVDA users list (www.freelists.org/list/nvda) is hereby declared obsolete, replaced by Groups.IO forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda). This does not mean the old list will cease to function now – the lights will be turned off by end of April to allow easy transition to those going to Groups.IO. Nor all members will be added to new list right away – an invitation will be sent to Freelists members to join the new (official) list.
The specifics are as follows:
· Effective immediately, no new members will be admitted to Freelists list. Various websites, mostly NVDA Community Wiki will be edited to point to the new list URL. · To subscribe to the new (official) list, send an email to nvda+subscribe@groups.io (no subject line required, please confirm if requested). · For those who find that they cannot subscribe via email, an “instant switchover service” will be provided where you’ll be added to the list by administrators (note that this is a limited time offer; applications will be accepted until March 15, 2016, and instant switchover will occur starting from March 5, 2016). If you do need to take advantage of this service, please contact NVDA list admins at nvda+owner@groups.io before the offer expires. · List traffic on the old list will be halted on March 31, 2016. This is required in order to smoothly transfer Freelists archives to Groups.IO. · The sunset date for Freelists list will be May 1, 2016. Prior to that, a few last-minute messages will be sent to Freelists subscribers. Anyone left on the sunset date will be removed from the Freelists list.
We the members of the next generation NVDA International Users List are thrilled and look forward to serving the NVDA community through the new list for years to come. Thank you.
Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (www.nvaccess.org) Moderator, NVDA International Users List (http://groups.io/g/nvda) Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)
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Re: Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!
Arlene
Hi there: I left the free lists group. Thinking it was going to be shut today. I’m here on the new list!
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: March-02-16 4:03 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!
Dear members of the NVDA Community around the world:
My name is Joseph S. Lee, one of the contributors to NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) screen reader project and one of the admins of the NVDA International users list. On behalf of NVDA list admins, I’d like to thank you all for your continued support for NVDA, and to thank you users for your continued devotion to NVDA and making it become part of lives of more blind and visually impaired users around the world.
As we the NVDA community is in the midst of a celebration of ten years of screen reading excellence, and to upgrade the user support experience of NVDA and for ease of list management, members of the NVDA International list have agreed to move our users list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Founded in 2014 and currently operating in live beta, Groups.IO provides features not found in Freelists, such as calendar events and periodic notifications, group wikis powered by Markdown, polls, databases, integration with services such as Dropbox, Github and others and more. This service also makes it easier to search list archives from the web interface, hashtags for ease or archiving, streamlined list subscription process, RSS feeds and subgroups (focus groups for specialized topics). Most importantly, the staff at Groups.IO are committed to accessibility out of the box, and much work has gone to make list management, web interface and other features accessible to list admins and members who are screen reader users. Although Freelists provides more advanced control over list management, we the members of the NVDA users list believe that Groups.IO provides long-term benefits thanks to accessibility commitments and features listed above.
Thus, effective immediately, the Freelists version of NVDA users list (www.freelists.org/list/nvda) is hereby declared obsolete, replaced by Groups.IO forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda). This does not mean the old list will cease to function now – the lights will be turned off by end of April to allow easy transition to those going to Groups.IO. Nor all members will be added to new list right away – an invitation will be sent to Freelists members to join the new (official) list.
The specifics are as follows:
· Effective immediately, no new members will be admitted to Freelists list. Various websites, mostly NVDA Community Wiki will be edited to point to the new list URL. · To subscribe to the new (official) list, send an email to nvda+subscribe@groups.io (no subject line required, please confirm if requested). · For those who find that they cannot subscribe via email, an “instant switchover service” will be provided where you’ll be added to the list by administrators (note that this is a limited time offer; applications will be accepted until March 15, 2016, and instant switchover will occur starting from March 5, 2016). If you do need to take advantage of this service, please contact NVDA list admins at nvda+owner@groups.io before the offer expires. · List traffic on the old list will be halted on March 31, 2016. This is required in order to smoothly transfer Freelists archives to Groups.IO. · The sunset date for Freelists list will be May 1, 2016. Prior to that, a few last-minute messages will be sent to Freelists subscribers. Anyone left on the sunset date will be removed from the Freelists list.
We the members of the next generation NVDA International Users List are thrilled and look forward to serving the NVDA community through the new list for years to come. Thank you.
Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (www.nvaccess.org) Moderator, NVDA International Users List (http://groups.io/g/nvda) Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)
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Re: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display
Arlene
Testing Am I out of this freelist.cor?
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From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com] Sent: March-02-16 2:57 AM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: FW: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display -----Original Message----- From: nvda-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:nvda-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:53 AM To: nvda@freelists.org Subject: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display Does NVDA work with this display? Will the BRLTTY package assist with this? Andrea -- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad ---------------------------------------- NVDA on freelists.org To post messages to the list send email to nvda@freelists.org To leave the list, send a blank message with the subject of "unsubscribe" (without quotes) to nvda-request@freelists.org. Reply to the confirmation message or click the link provided by the email. To modify your NVDA Email settings or view archives: Modify list subscription settings: http://www.freelists.org/list/nvda NvDA list archive: http://www.freelists.org/archive/nvda To contact list moderators, send an email to nvda-moderators@freelists.org. NVDA is developed by NV Access in collaboration with the community. Get NVDA from: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Your continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. Donate at: http://www.nvaccess.org/donate Other links: Come talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA Get NVDA add-ons at: http://addons.nvda-project.org/ NVDA on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515 Get SkypeTalking for NVDA: http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
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Re: Admin's Note: Please Read
Arlene
Hey there: I'll give Josiph a cup of tea for all he's done. Both of you work hard to keep this list going!
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From: Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@gmail.com] Sent: March-02-16 1:41 AM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Admin's Note: Please Read Hello everyone, I am stepping away for a few days from the NVDA admin role as I am going to be busy on a business trip and will not have time to keep an eye on list traffic. Joseph has done an incredible job as moderator with all that he has and is doing. I often use him to communicate with all of you as he is able to do this in a more sensitive manner that the list approves of. Having said all of that, I will be gone from the time I send this message to the time that I return late Sunday evening. During my absence, please give your attentions to Joseph, as he is going to take my place. Any decisions that Joseph makes are final unless it is an extreme situation. If you believe that an extreme situation came up that Joseph did not handle well, please send the moderator address an e-mail and I will review and possibly invite you to a cup o' tea upon my return. Joseph deserves all the respect you can give him as the role he is placed in is not an easy one. Please treat him will all of the respect that you have treated me with over the past years of administrating this list. Thank you for your valuable time and attention, and I look forward to a new era with the new list provider with all of you. Nimer Jaber
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Answers to frequently asked questions in regards to list migration
#adminnotice
Hello everyone:
AFTER receiving some questions from Twitter and via email, I've decided to compile a FAQ to clarify a few things regarding today's historic event: Q. Is migration from Freelists to Groups.IO permanent? Yes. Q. Which lists were migrated? The international users list. Q. Does this migration affect add-ons and other lists hosted on Freelists? No. They'll stay where they are for now. Q. Will we have a wiki? Not at this time, as there is already a community wiki. Q. Will we have subgroups? Not yet. Q. Is the development list coming to Groups.IO? No unless NV Access says it will. Q. How about add-ons list? This cannot be done due to some infrastructure in place to support add-on discussion. Q. How about lists run by language communities? It's really up to members of that language community to decide. Q. I tried to subscribe via email to no avail. What should I do? Send an email to nvda+owner@groups.io. Once we receive your request, the admins will add you directly (until March 15). Q. Why do some messages on this list have hashtags? These are there for archival purposes. Q. I have questions not covered by above ones. Please send an email to nvda+owner@groups.io and we'd be happy to assist you. Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
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hello there
Pete <emac00@...>
Hi, looks like I'm here.
Pete
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Re: hello there
Gwensinfo
So on my. Have a good evening
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Gwen and the great Orb sent from my iPhone 5s "a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue " Anonymous"
On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca> wrote:
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Re: hello there
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Howdy, I'm here to.
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Re: hello there
derek riemer
In the footer you guys could put follow @nvaccess as well.
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Thanks!
On 3/2/2016 8:42 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Howdy, I'm here to. --
Derek Riemer
Websites:
email me at
derek.riemer@...
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footer
In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.
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Re: footer
Hi,
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Last thing I heard, that project is alive and well. If that project is truly outdated (no longer maintained), we'll remove it from the footer. Cheers, Joseph
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From: Artin Dekker [mailto:artindekker@mail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:35 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] footer In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.
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Calling all beginners: topics to be covered during NvDACon 2016
#NVDACon
Hello all,
First, thank you all for joining the next generation NVDA International users list.
The leadership team would like to receive feedback from beginning NVDA users regarding the following:
2016 is a special year for NVDA users: NVDA turns ten. To celebrate this, some members of the community are organizing a huge online conference around NVDA’s tenth birthday: NVDA Users and Developers Conference (NVDACon for short), to be held in April 2016.
NVDACon is an annual gathering of NVDA users and developers to talk about current state of NVDA development. Topics have included math support, braille enhancements, supporting Windows 10, web browsing, Google applications and more. This year, to coordinate NVDACon 2016, several members of this list, together with outside supporters and NV Access formed a planning committee to discuss planning and logistics of this online conference.
One of the suggestions considered by organizers is a session or two devoted to beginners. The goals of these sessions are to introduce you to NVDA and its features, understanding concepts such as NVDA menu, object navigation, web browsing and others, an introduction to add-ons and more. Because organizers would like to receive feedback from many fellow community members, we’d like to ask you to send in your suggestions to the committee by either contacting committee members (Nimer, I, Derek Riemer and others), or sending an email to nvda+owner@groups.io with the subject line of “NVDACon 2016” and the admins will forward it to the committee for consideration during our next meeting (sometime in March). Also, even if you are not a beginner (or consider yourself a power user), more suggestions, the better, so we’ll accept suggestions from you as well. The deadline for receiving your email will be March 14, 2016 (shortly before Accessible World Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon) so we can discuss your comments and finalize the schedule by early April.
Thank you, and the NVDACon Planning Committee are looking forward to considering your comments.
Sincerely, Joseph
Joseph S. Lee Moderator, NVDA International users forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda) Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)
P.S. For all NVDACon related communication, including a general invite to be sent to this list in April, please use #NVDACon hashtag. Thanks.
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Event: Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon, Monday, 14 March 2016
#cal-invite
Nvda Calendar <nvda@...>
"Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon" Reminder
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Post toolbar not accessible
Hi, I'm very happy to be on this list. I'm Nut, migrated from Freelists version of NVDA, and just unsubscribed from that list today. But, I have one issue, the toolbar buttons on the compose message page doesn't seem to be accessible with NVDA or Jaws. Though this may not be an issue for a number of people, but those who liked formatting texts in WYSIWYG editors may find it difficult, unless if they used their email clients to post messages to this list.
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Re: Calling all beginners: topics to be covered during NvDACon 2016
#NVDACon
Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
Hello,
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I am not sure, what kind of suggestions are addressing? Joseph Lee 於 3/3/2016 14:33 寫道:
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Re: footer
Clare Page <clare.page@...>
Hi!
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Even though SkypeTalking is no longer being developed, it still works well with NVDA: I can bear withness to that as I use SkypeTalking all the time with Skype myself. Personally, I see nothing wrong with advertising SkypeTalking, as it still works, but if the moderators feel differently, I'll understand if they remove the SkypeTalking info from the footer of each NVDA list email. Just my two cents on the subject as a SkypeTalking user, but I totally understand the other point of view! Bye for now! From Clare
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From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com] Sent: jeudi 3 mars 2016 06:37 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] footer Hi, Last thing I heard, that project is alive and well. If that project is truly outdated (no longer maintained), we'll remove it from the footer. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Artin Dekker [mailto:artindekker@mail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:35 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] footer In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.
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Re: hello there
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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Just testing to see if I am still here. Regards, Greg Wocher
On 3/2/2016 9:28 PM, Pete wrote:
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Re: hello there
Michel Such
Hello,
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Yes, it seems to work. Michel SUCH michel.such@... Skype : michel.such Twitter : @SuchMichel Le 03/03/2016 13:01, Greg Wocher a
écrit :
Hello,
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Re: hello there
Scott VanDeWalle
Hello everyone.
It appears I'm here also. Have a lovely day. Scott
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