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Ribbon cutting: let the list migration commence #adminnotice

 

Hi folks,

In about an hour from now, you’ll get a message from me announcing the grand opening of this list (trial period is over, which means the list is open for business). Please try not sending too many test messages, and please be courteous when someone does send test messages as some would like to test the new interface. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!

 

Dear members of the NVDA Community around the world:

 

My name is Joseph S. Lee, one of the contributors to NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) screen reader project and one of the admins of the NVDA International users list. On behalf of NVDA list admins, I’d like to thank you all for your continued support for NVDA, and to thank you users for your continued devotion to NVDA and making it become part of lives of more blind and visually impaired users around the world.

 

As we the NVDA community is in the midst of a celebration of ten years of screen reading excellence, and to upgrade the user support experience of NVDA and for ease of list management, members of the NVDA International list have agreed to move our users list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Founded in 2014 and currently operating in live beta, Groups.IO provides features not found in Freelists, such as calendar events and periodic notifications, group wikis powered by Markdown, polls, databases, integration with services such as Dropbox, Github and others and more. This service also makes it easier to search list archives from the web interface, hashtags for ease or archiving, streamlined list subscription process, RSS feeds and subgroups (focus groups for specialized topics). Most importantly, the staff at Groups.IO are committed to accessibility out of the box, and much work has gone to make list management, web interface and other features accessible to list admins and members who are screen reader users. Although Freelists provides more advanced control over list management, we the members of the NVDA users list believe that Groups.IO provides long-term benefits thanks to accessibility commitments and features listed above.

 

Thus, effective immediately, the Freelists version of NVDA users list (www.freelists.org/list/nvda) is hereby declared obsolete, replaced by Groups.IO forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda). This does not mean the old list will cease to function now – the lights will be turned off by end of April to allow easy transition to those going to Groups.IO. Nor all members will be added to new list right away – an invitation will be sent to Freelists members to join the new (official) list.

 

The specifics are as follows:

 

·         Effective immediately, no new members will be admitted to Freelists list. Various websites, mostly NVDA Community Wiki will be edited to point to the new list URL.

·         To subscribe to the new (official) list, send an email to nvda+subscribe@groups.io (no subject line required, please confirm if requested).

·         For those who find that they cannot subscribe via email, an “instant switchover service” will be provided where you’ll be added to the list by administrators (note that this is a limited time offer; applications will be accepted until March 15, 2016, and instant switchover will occur starting from March 5, 2016). If you do need to take advantage of this service, please contact NVDA list admins at nvda+owner@groups.io before the offer expires.

·         List traffic on the old list will be halted on March 31, 2016. This is required in order to smoothly transfer Freelists archives to Groups.IO.

·         The sunset date for Freelists list will be May 1, 2016. Prior to that, a few last-minute messages will be sent to Freelists subscribers. Anyone left on the sunset date will be removed from the Freelists list.

 

We the members of the next generation NVDA International Users List are thrilled and look forward to serving the NVDA community through the new list for years to come. Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (www.nvaccess.org)

Moderator, NVDA International Users List (http://groups.io/g/nvda)

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)

 

 

 

Re: Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!

Arlene
 

Hi there: I left the free lists group. Thinking it was going to be shut today. I’m here on the new list!

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: March-02-16 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing the next generation NVDA International Users forum powered by Groups.IO!

 

Dear members of the NVDA Community around the world:

 

My name is Joseph S. Lee, one of the contributors to NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) screen reader project and one of the admins of the NVDA International users list. On behalf of NVDA list admins, I’d like to thank you all for your continued support for NVDA, and to thank you users for your continued devotion to NVDA and making it become part of lives of more blind and visually impaired users around the world.

 

As we the NVDA community is in the midst of a celebration of ten years of screen reading excellence, and to upgrade the user support experience of NVDA and for ease of list management, members of the NVDA International list have agreed to move our users list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Founded in 2014 and currently operating in live beta, Groups.IO provides features not found in Freelists, such as calendar events and periodic notifications, group wikis powered by Markdown, polls, databases, integration with services such as Dropbox, Github and others and more. This service also makes it easier to search list archives from the web interface, hashtags for ease or archiving, streamlined list subscription process, RSS feeds and subgroups (focus groups for specialized topics). Most importantly, the staff at Groups.IO are committed to accessibility out of the box, and much work has gone to make list management, web interface and other features accessible to list admins and members who are screen reader users. Although Freelists provides more advanced control over list management, we the members of the NVDA users list believe that Groups.IO provides long-term benefits thanks to accessibility commitments and features listed above.

 

Thus, effective immediately, the Freelists version of NVDA users list (www.freelists.org/list/nvda) is hereby declared obsolete, replaced by Groups.IO forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda). This does not mean the old list will cease to function now – the lights will be turned off by end of April to allow easy transition to those going to Groups.IO. Nor all members will be added to new list right away – an invitation will be sent to Freelists members to join the new (official) list.

 

The specifics are as follows:

 

·         Effective immediately, no new members will be admitted to Freelists list. Various websites, mostly NVDA Community Wiki will be edited to point to the new list URL.

·         To subscribe to the new (official) list, send an email to nvda+subscribe@groups.io (no subject line required, please confirm if requested).

·         For those who find that they cannot subscribe via email, an “instant switchover service” will be provided where you’ll be added to the list by administrators (note that this is a limited time offer; applications will be accepted until March 15, 2016, and instant switchover will occur starting from March 5, 2016). If you do need to take advantage of this service, please contact NVDA list admins at nvda+owner@groups.io before the offer expires.

·         List traffic on the old list will be halted on March 31, 2016. This is required in order to smoothly transfer Freelists archives to Groups.IO.

·         The sunset date for Freelists list will be May 1, 2016. Prior to that, a few last-minute messages will be sent to Freelists subscribers. Anyone left on the sunset date will be removed from the Freelists list.

 

We the members of the next generation NVDA International Users List are thrilled and look forward to serving the NVDA community through the new list for years to come. Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (www.nvaccess.org)

Moderator, NVDA International Users List (http://groups.io/g/nvda)

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)

 

 

 

Re: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display

Arlene
 

Testing Am I out of this freelist.cor?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:@joslee]
Sent: March-02-16 2:57 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: FW: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-bounce@... [mailto:nvda-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:53 AM
To: nvda@...
Subject: [NVDA] VarioUltra Display

Does NVDA work with this display?
Will the BRLTTY package assist with this?
Andrea
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Re: Admin's Note: Please Read

Arlene
 

Hey there: I'll give Josiph a cup of tea for all he's done. Both of you work hard to keep this list going!

-----Original Message-----
From: Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
Sent: March-02-16 1:41 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Admin's Note: Please Read

Hello everyone,

I am stepping away for a few days from the NVDA admin role as I am going
to be busy on a business trip and will not have time to keep an eye on
list traffic. Joseph has done an incredible job as moderator with all
that he has and is doing. I often use him to communicate with all of you
as he is able to do this in a more sensitive manner that the list
approves of. Having said all of that, I will be gone from the time I
send this message to the time that I return late Sunday evening. During
my absence, please give your attentions to Joseph, as he is going to
take my place. Any decisions that Joseph makes are final unless it is an
extreme situation. If you believe that an extreme situation came up that
Joseph did not handle well, please send the moderator address an e-mail
and I will review and possibly invite you to a cup o' tea upon my
return. Joseph deserves all the respect you can give him as the role he
is placed in is not an easy one. Please treat him will all of the
respect that you have treated me with over the past years of
administrating this list.

Thank you for your valuable time and attention, and I look forward to a
new era with the new list provider with all of you.

Nimer Jaber

Answers to frequently asked questions in regards to list migration #adminnotice

 

Hello everyone:
AFTER receiving some questions from Twitter and via email, I've decided to compile a FAQ to clarify a few things regarding today's historic event:

Q. Is migration from Freelists to Groups.IO permanent?
Yes.

Q. Which lists were migrated?
The international users list.

Q. Does this migration affect add-ons and other lists hosted on Freelists?
No. They'll stay where they are for now.

Q. Will we have a wiki?
Not at this time, as there is already a community wiki.

Q. Will we have subgroups?
Not yet.

Q. Is the development list coming to Groups.IO?
No unless NV Access says it will.

Q. How about add-ons list?
This cannot be done due to some infrastructure in place to support add-on discussion.

Q. How about lists run by language communities?
It's really up to members of that language community to decide.

Q. I tried to subscribe via email to no avail. What should I do?
Send an email to nvda+owner@groups.io. Once we receive your request, the admins will add you directly (until March 15).

Q. Why do some messages on this list have hashtags?
These are there for archival purposes.

Q. I have questions not covered by above ones.
Please send an email to nvda+owner@groups.io and we'd be happy to assist you.

Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

hello there

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi, looks like I'm here.
Pete

Re: hello there

Gwensinfo
 

So on my. Have a good evening

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
Anonymous"

On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:


Hi, looks like I'm here.
Pete



Re: hello there

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Howdy, I'm here to.

Re: hello there

derek riemer
 

In the footer you guys could put follow @nvaccess as well.
Thanks!

On 3/2/2016 8:42 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Howdy, I'm here to.




--

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  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194

footer

 

In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.

Re: footer

 

Hi,
Last thing I heard, that project is alive and well. If that project is truly outdated (no longer maintained), we'll remove it from the footer.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Artin Dekker [mailto:artindekker@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] footer

In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.

Calling all beginners: topics to be covered during NvDACon 2016 #NVDACon

 

Hello all,

 

First, thank you all for joining the next generation NVDA International users list.

 

The leadership team would like to receive feedback from beginning NVDA users regarding the following:

 

2016 is a special year for NVDA users: NVDA turns ten. To celebrate this, some members of the community are organizing a huge online conference around NVDA’s tenth birthday: NVDA Users and Developers Conference (NVDACon for short), to be held in April 2016.

 

NVDACon is an annual gathering of NVDA users and developers to talk about current state of NVDA development. Topics have included math support, braille enhancements, supporting Windows 10, web browsing, Google applications and more. This year, to coordinate NVDACon 2016, several members of this list, together with outside supporters and NV Access formed a planning committee to discuss planning and logistics of this online conference.

 

One of the suggestions considered by organizers is a session or two devoted to beginners. The goals of these sessions are to introduce you to NVDA and its features, understanding concepts such as NVDA menu, object navigation, web browsing and others, an introduction to add-ons and more. Because organizers would like to receive feedback from many fellow community members, we’d like to ask you to send in your suggestions to the committee by either contacting committee members (Nimer, I, Derek Riemer and others), or sending an email to nvda+owner@groups.io with the subject line of “NVDACon 2016” and the admins will forward it to the committee for consideration during our next meeting (sometime in March). Also, even if you are not a beginner (or consider yourself a power user), more suggestions, the better, so we’ll accept suggestions from you as well. The deadline for receiving your email will be March 14, 2016 (shortly before Accessible World Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon) so we can discuss your comments and finalize the schedule by early April.

 

Thank you, and the NVDACon Planning Committee are looking forward to considering your comments.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph

 

Joseph S. Lee

Moderator, NVDA International users forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda)

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)

 

P.S. For all NVDACon related communication, including a general invite to be sent to this list in April, please use #NVDACon hashtag. Thanks.

Event: Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon, Monday, 14 March 2016 #cal-invite

Nvda Calendar <nvda@...>
 

"Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon" Reminder

When: Monday, 14 March 2016
5:00pm to 7:00pm
(GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles
Where: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room
Description: Dear members of the NVDA community: You are cordially invited to attend Accessible World’s Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon on March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC (March 14th at 5 PM Pacific, 8 PM Eastern and elsewhere). If you are curious about NVDA 2016.1, need answers to burning questions about NVDA, or would like to learn more about upcoming NVDACon International 2016 in April, you are more than welcome to attend this event. Visit www.accessibleworld.org, select Pat Price training room, then join the room (select “click here to enter” link, or if you don’t have TCConference, install it first, then come and join this event). Event information: * Theme: NVDA 2016.1, NVDA’s tenth anniversary events and NVDACon 2016 * Presenter: Joseph Lee * Topics to be covered: what’s new and changed in NVDA 2016.1, an overview of NVDACon 2016, sneak peek at what NV Access has been up to in 2016.2 development and more. * Date: March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC. * Place: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room Hope to see many of you there. Thank you. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee Los Angeles City College (student of Communication Studies, formerly computer science major at UC Riverside) Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NonVisual Desktop Access screen reader project Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)

Post toolbar not accessible

 

Hi,

I'm very happy to be on this list. I'm Nut, migrated from Freelists version of NVDA, and just unsubscribed from that list today. But, I have one issue, the toolbar buttons on the compose message page doesn't seem to be accessible with NVDA or Jaws. Though this may not be an issue for a number of people, but those who liked formatting texts in WYSIWYG editors may find it difficult, unless if they used their email clients to post messages to this list.

Re: Calling all beginners: topics to be covered during NvDACon 2016 #NVDACon

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hello,
I am not sure, what kind of suggestions are addressing?
 

Joseph Lee 於 3/3/2016 14:33 寫道:

Hello all,

 

First, thank you all for joining the next generation NVDA International users list.

 

The leadership team would like to receive feedback from beginning NVDA users regarding the following:

 

2016 is a special year for NVDA users: NVDA turns ten. To celebrate this, some members of the community are organizing a huge online conference around NVDA’s tenth birthday: NVDA Users and Developers Conference (NVDACon for short), to be held in April 2016.

 

NVDACon is an annual gathering of NVDA users and developers to talk about current state of NVDA development. Topics have included math support, braille enhancements, supporting Windows 10, web browsing, Google applications and more. This year, to coordinate NVDACon 2016, several members of this list, together with outside supporters and NV Access formed a planning committee to discuss planning and logistics of this online conference.

 

One of the suggestions considered by organizers is a session or two devoted to beginners. The goals of these sessions are to introduce you to NVDA and its features, understanding concepts such as NVDA menu, object navigation, web browsing and others, an introduction to add-ons and more. Because organizers would like to receive feedback from many fellow community members, we’d like to ask you to send in your suggestions to the committee by either contacting committee members (Nimer, I, Derek Riemer and others), or sending an email to nvda+owner@groups.io with the subject line of “NVDACon 2016” and the admins will forward it to the committee for consideration during our next meeting (sometime in March). Also, even if you are not a beginner (or consider yourself a power user), more suggestions, the better, so we’ll accept suggestions from you as well. The deadline for receiving your email will be March 14, 2016 (shortly before Accessible World Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon) so we can discuss your comments and finalize the schedule by early April.

 

Thank you, and the NVDACon Planning Committee are looking forward to considering your comments.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph

 

Joseph S. Lee

Moderator, NVDA International users forum (http://groups.io/g/nvda)

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)

 

P.S. For all NVDACon related communication, including a general invite to be sent to this list in April, please use #NVDACon hashtag. Thanks.


Re: footer

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
Even though SkypeTalking is no longer being developed, it still works well with NVDA: I can bear withness to that as I use SkypeTalking all the time with Skype myself.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with advertising SkypeTalking, as it still works, but if the moderators feel differently, I'll understand if they remove the SkypeTalking info from the footer of each NVDA list email.
Just my two cents on the subject as a SkypeTalking user, but I totally understand the other point of view!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:@joslee]
Sent: jeudi 3 mars 2016 06:37
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] footer

Hi,
Last thing I heard, that project is alive and well. If that project is truly outdated (no longer maintained), we'll remove it from the footer.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Artin Dekker [mailto:artindekker@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] footer

In the footer is a link to SkypeTalking while this is an outdated project.

Re: hello there

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Just testing to see if I am still here.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/2/2016 9:28 PM, Pete wrote:

Hi, looks like I'm here.
Pete


Re: hello there

Michel Such
 

Hello,

Yes, it seems to work.
                    Michel SUCH

michel.such@...
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel
Le 03/03/2016 13:01, Greg Wocher a écrit :

Hello,
Just testing to see if I am still here.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/2/2016 9:28 PM, Pete wrote:

  Hi,  looks like I'm here.
  Pete









Re: hello there

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello everyone.
It appears I'm here also.
Have a lovely day.

Scott