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Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Rob Hudson
 

How do you get to the accessibility settings.
I joined a test meeting with the zoom meetings client, and I found no setting sbutton anywhere that talked about it. I found audio settings and such, but nothing about accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CARLOS-ESTEBAN" <carlosestebanpianista@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:22:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an
excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribiů:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope Iím on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.

--

Carlos Esteban MartŪnez MacŪas.

Mķsico (pianista) y tambiťn ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de
lectores de pantalla y tecnologŪa.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of
screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Experto†certificado†en†NVDA <https://certification.nvaccess.org>





problem with search edit box in folders

seb naudet
 

Hello list,

i've recently updated my windows 10 pro (64-bit)
Version 2004 (10.0.19041)

and last NVDA available.

when i search for a file in a folder i now have to press enter after typing the name, and alt tab to see the result of my search.

quite complicate compared with previous version of windows.

any idea to simplify access to search results?


    thank you

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Good news Ben, thanks for that.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of benmoxey@...
Sent: Dienstag, 11. August 2020 01:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "
Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Charles,

As others have noted, Object Navigation is a feature of NVDA, and most of the other examples given illustrate that its main purpose is to give you an alternate way of navigating when a program can't be navigated using regular keys (arrows, tab, other keyboard shortcuts).  In some cases, such as the Settings in Windows 10, you can get around and manipulate the controls using regular keys like tab, however there is additional information presented, which is only given as a read-only piece of text which never gets focus.  In that case, object navigation is a way of reading that text.

Where object navigation lets you move between objects, the review cursor is used to move through text within the current object.

The "Basic Training for NVDA" material available from NV Access teaches both Object Navigation and the Review cursor.  You can find a sample of it (which includes the Review Cursor section) from the "Basic Training for NVDA eBook Sample" link on: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ (If you would prefer an audio sample, you can find that from the "Basic NVDA Training MP3 Sample" link on https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/  The book is also available in Braille: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-braille-hard-copy/ - but there isn't a sample in Braille :) )

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:16 AM Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...> wrote:
Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered earlier and I missed it, my apology.
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
> ÔĽŅToday, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history.¬† I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect.¬† I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object.¬† I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless.¬† I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?
>
> Hi,
>
> one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
> navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
> pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
> fequently is  visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
> category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
> load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
> is much less annoying.
>
> --  patrick
>
>
>
>
>





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

Thanks. n

I'll look but I might as well just wait for it. I don't care much if I hear the announcements or not and there are times I like to know when someone enters or leaves.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 7:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Is an excellent change, thanks!

I updated Zoom and is possible.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 18:36, benmoxey@... escribió:

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

M√ļsico (pianista) y tambi√©n ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnolog√≠a.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.

I updated Zoom and is possible enable o disable the alerts, is an excellent change.

Thanks to all for the answers.

Regards.


El 10/8/2020 a las 19:34, benmoxey@... escribió:
Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message----- 
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they 
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in 
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for 
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the 
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to 
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and 
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: 
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm 
willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of 
accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their 
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many 
users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited 
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any 
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that 
would help are spelled out.


--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

M√ļsico (pianista) y tambi√©n ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnolog√≠a.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Gene

You can check manually using the menu. Place focus on the main Zoom window and hit Control + F to navigate to the find edit box. Hit tab to navigate to the menu.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they
have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in
Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for
a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the
ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to
make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and
Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page:
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm
willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of
accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their
wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many
users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited
human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any
problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that
would help are spelled out.


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

I haven't been offered the update yet.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: benmoxey@...
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi everyone



Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!



Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.



Hope this helps.



Cheers



Ben





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom





I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

I doubt it. I suspect it is triggered in some way by text appearing or disappeariing from the attendees list. Also, in the Zoom meetings I've attended, there was no sound like a bell when someone joined or left.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might. It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others. I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time. While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.


--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

benmoxey@...
 

Hi everyone

 

Coming in late on this discussion, so hope I’m on the right track!

 

Ensure you update to the latest build of Zoom and you will notice that they have added the ability to turn on and off alerts for screen readers in Settings/Accessibility. I only spotted this yesterday when installing it for a client.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

Gene
 

This is forced speech and I see nothing in Zoom that allows it to be turhned off. Technically, I'm not sure how this is done, I suspect something like an Aria tag. Whatever the case, I think the Zoom developers should be notified that notifications such as who enters and leaves meetings and the automatic notification of chat messages should be able to be turned off. Forced speech anywhere should never be unable to be turned off.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom



Hi all.

Some users have this situation: In a Zoom meetin, when a person have problems of conection and leave, NVDA sais who leave the meetin.

But if the user read somme ting with NVDA, for example, slides from a presentation, NVDA stop the reading and talk the alert.

The options report notifications and report dinamic contend changes disabled in the category object presentation dont disable the alerts from Zoom. Some idea? have a developer a temporal solution or an app module?

Thanks.




--


Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

M√ļsico (pianista) y tambi√©n ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnolog√≠a.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.




Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Re: Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

Hi,

This is something Zoom will need to look at, as these alerts come from places other than what is considered main Zoom window.

Technical: for resident geeks, the app module for Zoom that comes with NVDA uses eventHandler.requestEvents function to ask NVDA to keep an eye on MSAA events outside of Zoom. Normally events are raised by elements located inside an app’s main window, but this is not the case in Zoom. In other words, fixing this will require countless hours of advocacy and emails to Zoom developers to help them reimagine accessibility API’s and such.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Disable report of alerts from Zoom

 

Hi all.

Some users have this situation: In a Zoom meetin, when a person have problems of conection and leave, NVDA sais who leave the meetin.

But if the user read somme ting with NVDA, for example, slides from a presentation, NVDA stop the reading and talk the alert.

The options report notifications and report dinamic contend changes disabled in the category object presentation dont disable the alerts from Zoom. Some idea? have a developer a temporal solution or an app module?

Thanks.

 

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Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Disable report of alerts from Zoom

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hi all.

Some users have this situation: In a Zoom meetin, when a person have problems of conection and leave, NVDA sais who leave the meetin.

But if the user read somme ting with NVDA, for example, slides from a presentation, NVDA stop the reading and talk the alert.

The options report notifications and report dinamic contend changes disabled in the category object presentation dont disable the alerts from Zoom. Some idea? have a developer a temporal solution or an app module?

Thanks.


--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

M√ļsico (pianista) y tambi√©n ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnolog√≠a.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.


Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Re: interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

 

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 03:54 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmmm, it was on,  in previous versions of windows that was reversed I think.
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The "more details" view is always off by default, including under every version of Windows 10 so far (I don't have 2004 yet).

I know this simply because I like it, and routinely have to turn it on and have had to do so "forever."
 
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Re: interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

 

I actually think some of these settings should be in a different place to.

It was on and I turned it off but its to easily toggled.

Its about the only thing that happens, I am sometimes unaware I have hit it.



On 11/08/2020 7:12 am, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello Shaun,

In the file operation progress dialog, there should be a button saying something of the sort of "Show more details" or "Show less details". If it says "Show less details", activate it. That way the file operation progress dialog will show less details. That should help to make NVDA report the progress bar in the dialog.

The dialog should show less details by default, but sometimes (probably due to accidental activation of the "Show more details" button by the user), it shows more details and that option is saved permanently until changed again by the user by activating the "Show less details" button.

The problem with this file operation progress dialog is that when it shows/displays more details about the current operation, the way it presents the progress bar is not normal. Instead of a standard progress bar, it displays an operation speed graph which vertically displays the operation speed and horizontally displays the progress. Apparently this non-standard way of displaying the progress bar brakes its detection and reporting by the screen readers. NV Access and Microsoft should investigate this and fix it.

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Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

–Ě–į 10.8.2020 –≥. –≤ 21:53, Shaun Everiss –Ĺ–į–Ņ–ł—Ā–į:
Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.






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Re: interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

 

Hmmm, it was on,  in previous versions of windows that was reversed I think.

Its off now.

On 11/08/2020 7:13 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
You need to disable "more details" toggle, as progress bar will be hidden if this is on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.








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Re: interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

 

I will add, for the sake of clarity, that what @Kostadin Kolev said, checking to see if the control reads, "Show less details," and, if so, that means that the "More details" view is what's currently showing.

If you have "Show more details" showing, then you are currently toggled to the "less details" view.  It's always giving you the toggle text for the thing you'd be going to, that is would be showing, if you activated it.  
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

Re: interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

 

Hi,
You need to disable "more details" toggle, as progress bar will be hidden if this is on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.