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[Solved] Problem with Bluetooth clipping words

Gene
 

We don’t know if there is a problem that needs to be solved.  there well may not be.  Sometimes, you hear unknown spoken and everything works properly.  Since nothing is specified, such as a problem using some browsers, the question may be asking why unknown is spoken.  If so, I would say to just ignore it.  If you load a web page, hear unknown spoken, and you can move properly in the page, there isn’t a problem, just a behavior that causes no interference with using NVDA.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem
 

Hi, Anthony,

 

Do you know how to runthe com registration tool? I’ve had to do that whenever I heard “unknown”. You’ll find the com registration tool in the NVDA menu under “tools”.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem

 

Hi

 

Can somebody explain to me that everytime when the NVDA screen reader is loaded, it keeps announcing the word unknown. Even when I use firefox.

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

 

 


Re: [Solved] Problem with Bluetooth clipping words

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I am not using a headset and the power is not turning off. The cursor seems to just be missing the word at the beginning of a line. thanks for the suggestion, though.

On 6/4/2021 11:40 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
Hello,

If you are using a Bluetooth headset, then your computer is turning off its sound card to save power whenever there is a pause. If you are not using a Bluetooth headset, then that is another issue.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 10:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading line by line and missing words

This has been happening for some time and I cannot remember when it started but hope someone can help if I can explain it clear enough.


There are times when I read line by line with the arrow keys if I am
looking for a particular word or phrase in an article or email. For some
time now, and I think it started happening after the latest update of
NVDA--not the beta one that is being worked on as I have not taken that
one--that when going line by line it misses words at the beginning of a
line. If I do "read all" it does fine but it is only when I am arrowing
down or up in the file. Does anyone have any idea what setting may have
changed? I know sometimes my screen flips direction but that has not
made a difference in the past.


Thanks so much for any ideas you can offer.


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: Correcting speech pattern

Gene
 

If you type the letters themselves, such as fl, in the speech dictionary as the pattern, and then the same letters again in the pronounced as field, you will accomplish what you want. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Correcting speech pattern
 
Patrick is absolutely correct that this is a function of the synthesizer(s) in use rather than NVDA itself.  When faced with an unpronounceable sequence like FL10 (F L 1 0) it's got to "take a guess" and since FL is a state abbreviation it makes at least some sense to try "Florida ten."  In the case of NV-Access or NV Access it makes perfect sense to "guess" that NV would be Nevada.

The NV-Access or NV Access case is easy enough as far as a regex match with substitution.  FL10 would not probably require a regex, but that really depends on exactly what it is you're trying to change and how many variants on the pronunciation you need.
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

Mark,

I posted this here under the assumption that what you said about the authors of eSpeak is correct. However, I wanted to know exactly what NVDA does to eSpeak before packaging it with a release, whether they are in charge of ASCII symbol translation and the like. I will post the question to the development group as Luke suggested. To your point about HTS voices being intelligible at speed, fair enough. I do still think eSpeak is a worthy project. I hope it won't raise too many eyebrows with your group if I end up working on both projects in some capacity.

Speaking of, in your initial message you wrote the email address as "inq@...", without the s. On your website, the s in "Louderpages" is included. I just wanted to make sure which is correct before dropping you a line.

Best,
Daniel


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

Thank you for this, Luke. Will post there.


Re: Input Gestures Pane/Dialog - I'm drawing a blank with regard to tweaking a keyboard shortcut I've previously created

Tyler Spivey
 

You just have to remove it and re-add the one you want.

On 6/4/2021 8:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hello All,
. . . and not with regard to opening it (NVDA+N,P,N).  I quickly reacquainted myself with right arrowing to expand a given item, in this case Easy Table Navigator (but that's not really important), going through the related items beneath with up/down arrow, but when it comes to the item I want to change, I don't seem to be able to get it to open unless I'm using the mouse to click on it.
In this case I was trying to change the Keyboard Shortcut that toggles the Easy Table Navigator layer that allows you to use arrow keys to move through tables on/off.  I had initially changed it to CTRL+E and quickly realized that I didn't want to keep that.
Once I'm down at the level in the Input Gestures where I'm under Easy Table Navigator, and I'm sitting on the entry that's read, "Level 2, Ctrl+E, (keyboard, all layouts)," what do I hit to open that and change it?  Or is this a circumstance where I must select it, activate the remove button, then add it back again?  I thought you could edit these, but perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.
--
Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
/I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are./
      ~ Brian Vogel


Re: NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2 now available

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

I just downloaded it and it’s working great for me so-far.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 11:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2 now available

 

Hi all,

NVDA 2021.1beta2 is now available for testing. This is the second beta for the 2021.1 release, please install and test the release and report any issues.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-1beta2/

Thanks!

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


Re: [Solved] Problem with Bluetooth clipping words

Louis Maher
 

Hello,

If you are using a Bluetooth headset, then your computer is turning off its sound card to save power whenever there is a pause. If you are not using a Bluetooth headset, then that is another issue.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 10:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading line by line and missing words

This has been happening for some time and I cannot remember when it started but hope someone can help if I can explain it clear enough.


There are times when I read line by line with the arrow keys if I am
looking for a particular word or phrase in an article or email. For some
time now, and I think it started happening after the latest update of
NVDA--not the beta one that is being worked on as I have not taken that
one--that when going line by line it misses words at the beginning of a
line. If I do "read all" it does fine but it is only when I am arrowing
down or up in the file. Does anyone have any idea what setting may have
changed? I know sometimes my screen flips direction but that has not
made a difference in the past.


Thanks so much for any ideas you can offer.



--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Input Gestures Pane/Dialog - I'm drawing a blank with regard to tweaking a keyboard shortcut I've previously created

 

Hello All,

. . . and not with regard to opening it (NVDA+N,P,N).  I quickly reacquainted myself with right arrowing to expand a given item, in this case Easy Table Navigator (but that's not really important), going through the related items beneath with up/down arrow, but when it comes to the item I want to change, I don't seem to be able to get it to open unless I'm using the mouse to click on it.

In this case I was trying to change the Keyboard Shortcut that toggles the Easy Table Navigator layer that allows you to use arrow keys to move through tables on/off.  I had initially changed it to CTRL+E and quickly realized that I didn't want to keep that.

Once I'm down at the level in the Input Gestures where I'm under Easy Table Navigator, and I'm sitting on the entry that's read, "Level 2, Ctrl+E, (keyboard, all layouts)," what do I hit to open that and change it?  Or is this a circumstance where I must select it, activate the remove button, then add it back again?  I thought you could edit these, but perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


[Solved] Problem with Bluetooth clipping words

Betsy Grenevitch
 

This has been happening for some time and I cannot remember when it started but hope someone can help if I can explain it clear enough.


There are times when I read line by line with the arrow keys if I am looking for a particular word or phrase in an article or email. For some time now, and I think it started happening after the latest update of NVDA--not the beta one that is being worked on as I have not taken that one--that when going line by line it misses words at the beginning of a line. If I do "read all" it does fine but it is only when I am arrowing down or up in the file. Does anyone have any idea what setting may have changed? I know sometimes my screen flips direction but that has not made a difference in the past.


Thanks so much for any ideas you can offer.



--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: NVDA announcing "Unknown"

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Anthony,

 

Do you know how to runthe com registration tool? I’ve had to do that whenever I heard “unknown”. You’ll find the com registration tool in the NVDA menu under “tools”.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 7:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem

 

Hi

 

Can somebody explain to me that everytime when the NVDA screen reader is loaded, it keeps announcing the word unknown. Even when I use firefox.

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

 

 


Re: Correcting speech pattern

 

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 08:50 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
How can I stop NVDA from saying names of American states instead of letter combinations
-
What's perversely funny is that the OneCore voice, Microsoft David, pronounces these letter sequences as actual letter sequences, not as US state names.  I actually wasn't expecting that to be the case with an American English synth.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


NVDA announcing "Unknown"

anthony borg
 

Hi

 

Can somebody explain to me that everytime when the NVDA screen reader is loaded, it keeps announcing the word unknown. Even when I use firefox.

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

 


Re: Correcting speech pattern

 

Patrick is absolutely correct that this is a function of the synthesizer(s) in use rather than NVDA itself.  When faced with an unpronounceable sequence like FL10 (F L 1 0) it's got to "take a guess" and since FL is a state abbreviation it makes at least some sense to try "Florida ten."  In the case of NV-Access or NV Access it makes perfect sense to "guess" that NV would be Nevada.

The NV-Access or NV Access case is easy enough as far as a regex match with substitution.  FL10 would not probably require a regex, but that really depends on exactly what it is you're trying to change and how many variants on the pronunciation you need.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Correcting speech pattern

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

Unfortunately, it is not a feature of nvda but one specific to the engine/voice, thus there is no simple way to avoid that kind of things altogether.
It should be possible to use the dictionary to replace them one by one, maybe even to find one regexp to fit them all, but to be honest that seems a lot of work for a limited improvement.

-- Patrick

Le 04/06/2021 à 14:49, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :
Hi,
How can I stop NVDA from saying names of American states instead of letter combinations such as “Florid” for fl10, or “Nevada” for “NV-Access”?
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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Re: Accessible SQL Clients

Russell James
 

Hi Luke

I don't know if you're a vs code user but it should be possible if you

I don't know the details of the accessibility with this approach but I would assume since most of the Microsoft apps are accessible to nvda it should be a good option

Quickstart: Use Visual Studio Code to connect and query
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-sql/database/connect-query-vscode

I would be interested in learning which approach you find the most productive and accessible :-)

Russ


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 7:40 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Hello

Does anyone know of any NVDA accessible SQL clients? Specifically for
PostGreSQL, MySQL, or MariaDB?

I usually do database work from the Linux shell (actual or WSL), but a
recent discussion on another list has made me wonder if there are any
accessible GUI applications for this which anyone can point to.

There are many out there, and before I started downloading them randomly
and testing, I thought I would ask.

Luke







Correcting speech pattern

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

How can I stop NVDA from saying names of American states instead of letter combinations such as “Florid” for fl10, or “Nevada” for “NV-Access”?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 




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Accessible SQL Clients

Luke Davis
 

Hello

Does anyone know of any NVDA accessible SQL clients? Specifically for PostGreSQL, MySQL, or MariaDB?

I usually do database work from the Linux shell (actual or WSL), but a recent discussion on another list has made me wonder if there are any accessible GUI applications for this which anyone can point to.

There are many out there, and before I started downloading them randomly and testing, I thought I would ask.

Luke


NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi all,

NVDA 2021.1beta2 is now available for testing. This is the second beta for the 2021.1 release, please install and test the release and report any issues.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-1beta2/

Thanks!

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

Gerardo Corripio
 

There's also the Spanish NVDA community which you can get info on the EMail list, and others, by going to www.nvda.es

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 3 jun 2021, a la(s) 6:22 p.m., Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escribió:

As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group.  There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages.  I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not.

I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows.
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NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)

NOTE:  All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below.  Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.

 

These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:

nvda-fr / nvda-fr

Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20

nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA

Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18

NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu

Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20

nvdadutch / NVDADutch

Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15

nvda-tw

這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16

 

The following exist, but currently have very few members:

NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL

Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20

nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム(管理者からのお知らせ専用)

NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16

nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese

NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20

nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste

Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19

nvda-ar / NVDA العربي

تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17

nvdacn / nvda中文小

hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17

nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen

Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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