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Re: Data Recovery Tools That Work With NVDA

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

There is Recuva.  It is not freeware though, but it is inexpensive and can be used with NVDA quite effectively.  In fact, it is the same company that brings us CCleaner.  Here's the link

https://www.ccleaner.com/recuva

On 8/31/2019 11:21 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Hello all

On another list, a discussion about data recovery has come up, and lead me to wonder if there are any data recovery tools that are known to work with NVDA?

I don't want to be too specific about the kinds of data recovery, to keep the question open enough to attract a variety of answers.

That said, here are two examples:

1. A folder accidentally shift-deleted from a hard drive.
2. Software that records audio to a USB stick in .wav format, but doesn't write the file length header until after the recording is done. If that software (or its host, like a Behringer X32 or Midas M32) is shut down while still recording, the data is still on the stick, but shows a zero file size because the length bytes were never added to the filesystem.

Either of those can, in theory, be resolved by appropriate data recovery and forensics software. But which such software might be accessible with NVDA?

As a side note: the person on the list is dealing with problem 1 I mentioned, and I am dealing with problem 2.

Luke



Data Recovery Tools That Work With NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Hello all

On another list, a discussion about data recovery has come up, and lead me to wonder if there are any data recovery tools that are known to work with NVDA?

I don't want to be too specific about the kinds of data recovery, to keep the question open enough to attract a variety of answers.

That said, here are two examples:

1. A folder accidentally shift-deleted from a hard drive.
2. Software that records audio to a USB stick in .wav format, but doesn't write the file length header until after the recording is done. If that software (or its host, like a Behringer X32 or Midas M32) is shut down while still recording, the data is still on the stick, but shows a zero file size because the length bytes were never added to the filesystem.

Either of those can, in theory, be resolved by appropriate data recovery and forensics software. But which such software might be accessible with NVDA?

As a side note: the person on the list is dealing with problem 1 I mentioned, and I am dealing with problem 2.

Luke


Re: strange radial box

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 02:45 PM, Laz wrote:
As a blind person who has used several screen readers in the past I
assumed he meant radio buttons.
As a sighted person who has done the same, I didn't.   There are check boxes and there are radio buttons but nothing close to "radial box," hence the request for clarification.

I know what both of the above are, and if we're talking about radio buttons it would be helpful to have a URL for a page where the "odd behavior" is occurring.
 
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Re: strange radial box

Laz
 

As a blind person who has used several screen readers in the past I
assumed he meant radio buttons.

Laz

On 8/30/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
What is a radial box? I have no idea.
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Re: strange radial box

Salvador Domenech Miguel
 

Hi.

Is a selector, the object that apears wen you select between male or female on a Google form for example.

Cheers.


El 30/08/2019 a las 20:36, Brian Vogel escribió:
What is a radial box?  I have no idea.
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Re: strange radial box

 

What is a radial box?  I have no idea.
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strange radial box

Don H
 

Getting a survey from my power company that has some strange radial boxes. I have found that the only way to check the box is by hitting the escape key when the radial box has focus. Is this a common practice?


In-Process 30th August

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week we've got NVDA 2019.2, Changing Lives: The Story of the free NVDA screen reader, audio described, NVDA in the workplace and much more, this week in In-Process!


Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Clock-19.09-dev #addontesting

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Out of curiosity isn’t the focus placed on the AM and PM so that no matter how large a number before the focus is the start time will be determined by AM or PM?

 

Also, I plan on creating some more clock chimes.

 

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From: Abdel
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Clock-19.09-dev #AddonTesting

 

Hi everybody,

 

I am Abdel, a collaborator for the add-on Clock and calendar.

 

Someone reported the following bug when using quiet hours:

 

If the start time is greater than the end time, the duration of the

quiet hours does not arrive until the end time.

 

In principle, it must be the next day that must be automatically chosen

through an internal code.

 

This code is in the timeInRange function, defined in the dtfunctions module.

 

This function has been corrected as follows, to fix the bug:

 

> def timeInRange(startTime, endTime, checkTime, use24hour=False):

>     """

>     A function that can be used to check whether the time range

> received as a parameter does not match a specific time.

>     @param startTime: The start time in the range.

>     @type startTime: basestring.

>     @param endTime: The end time in the range.

>     @type endTime: basestring.

>     @param checkTime: The time that will allow for the verification.

>     @type checkTime: basestring.

>     @param use24hour: optional: A boolean to determine whether the

> specified times format are 24-hour format or not.

>     @type use24hours: boolean.

>     @returns: A Boolean corresponding to the verification.

>     @rtype: boolean.

>     """

>     start=parseTime(startTime, use24hour)

>     end=parseTime(endTime, use24hour)

>     check=parseTime(checkTime, use24hour)

>     if end<start:

>         end+=timedelta(days=1)

>         if check < start:

>             check+=timedelta(days=1)

>     return start<=check<end

 

 

The 19.09-dev version of the add-on is downloadable here, it is also

available by clicking on the "development version" link on the community

site, as well as with addonUpdater, in the dev channel:

 

> http://cyber25.free.fr/nvda-addons/clock-19.09-dev.nvda-addon

 

 

It will remain in development version during a period of 2 weeks.

 

Thanks in advance for confirming me if the bug persists or not.

 

Kind regards,

Abdel.

 

 

 

 


Re: A point on email clients

Gene
 

Do you get an error message?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A point on email clients

Hi all,

I have Windows Live Mail uninstalled, but when I want install it again,

it is impossible, the installation dos not work.


Jarek
Dne 25.08.2019 v 20:18 Brian Vogel napsal(a):
Windows Live Mail 2012 is still working just fine as a straight e-mail client, and there are no reports, yet, of any significant security risks stemming from its use since it's out of support.

I archived the Windows Essentials 2012 installer, of which Windows Live Mail is one of the selectable essentials that can be installed alone, about a week before it was pulled from Microsoft's own web site.   If anyone wants same, here it is:  Windows Live Mail (Windows Essentials) 2012 (ZIP format)
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Re: A point on email clients

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
I am using thunderbird and it is really fast and I have really lots of mail.
If you are using windows10, consider that if you don't exclude the thunderbird folder from Windows Defender, your client will be slow and slow and still slow!
I spent about 3 weeks in order to understand why thunderbird was suddenly so stupid, and I realized that after excluding all its data from the windows defender scan system, all become ok!

Il 25/08/2019 17:58, Vincent Le Goff ha scritto:
Hi everyone,
This has been reported for a few weeks or months and things are getting worse, so I'm afraid I'll have to leave the Thunderbird community.  The client is getting extremely sluggish.  It behaves well for sighted users but the thing is not reporting information to NVDA in less than a few seconds for each key press, especially for us unfortunate relying on Braille.  Enough is enough. Thunderbird served its purpose but I need a fast email client and can't spend 2 hours reading my 100 daily emails (yep, I happen to receive lots of emails).
But this "ragequit" will pose some problems.  The first, and obvious, is: what to use now?  Relying on Microsoft products doesn't sit too well, I'm already doing a lot of that, but it seems there aren't so many choices.  For awhile I heard about an open-source email client specifically created for accessibility, but I can't remember what the name was, who created it, and Google can't help me.
So the debate is open: let's avoid the flamewar if possible, but what are you using?  What would be more fitting with NVDA?  I have a few requirements:
- I'm running on Windows 10 (64-bit). Can't do without that.
- I have two accounts and possibly three, so I need to have support for several email accounts and simple switches between them.
- I need support for iMap, which is basically the only protocol I used to retreieve messages.
- Support for simple text and HTML content is obviously a strong bonus.
Thanks in advance for your advice!
Vincent


Re: A point on email clients

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi all,

I have Windows Live Mail uninstalled, but when I want install it again,

it is impossible, the installation dos not work.


Jarek
Dne 25.08.2019 v 20:18 Brian Vogel napsal(a):

Windows Live Mail 2012 is still working just fine as a straight e-mail client, and there are no reports, yet, of any significant security risks stemming from its use since it's out of support.

I archived the Windows Essentials 2012 installer, of which Windows Live Mail is one of the selectable essentials that can be installed alone, about a week before it was pulled from Microsoft's own web site.   If anyone wants same, here it is:  Windows Live Mail (Windows Essentials) 2012 (ZIP format)
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Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

Bianka Brankovic <bianka.brankovic@...>
 

Hi alll,

 

I am getting this on my private e-mail address and my private address is not on the NVDA list. I guess the spammer got the e-mail addresses elsewhere.

 

Kind regards,

 

Bianka

 


Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

Monte Single
 

I received none.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke
Davis
Sent: August-29-19 8:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

I haven't, and my email addresses are spread across several NVDA related
lists, github pages, and such. Which makes me think either he hasn't
harvested from hear in several months, or he isn't getting them from NVDA
lists.

But I am only one case, maybe he just doesn't think I'm a good prospect.:)
In any case, if he is using professional email software of any kind, there
will be some unsubscribe links in the message somewhere, usually top or
bottom. Try looking for those.



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Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

Luke Davis
 

I haven't, and my email addresses are spread across several NVDA related lists, github pages, and such. Which makes me think either he hasn't harvested from hear in several months, or he isn't getting them from NVDA lists.

But I am only one case, maybe he just doesn't think I'm a good prospect.:) In any case, if he is using professional email software of any kind, there will be some unsubscribe links in the message somewhere, usually top or bottom. Try looking for those.



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Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

Laz
 

I have, so obviously he has been harvesting email addresses from some
list or other. Perhaps it's not this one but it's some list. this is
not the first time this has happened and most likely won't be the
last.

Laz

On 8/29/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Ken,

I also never received any such post.

On 8/29/2019 2:25 PM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi listers, from time to time I have received emails from a TMR at
vorail dot com. Something like week 108 or week of… the top five ask
alls for the blind/low vision community. I just now got another one
and replied asking that he either stop sending these or he verify why
and how he knows me. Has he perhaps harvested my name from this list
or others I’m part of ? he might be on the level but it appears very
strange. Is anyone else getting these and do we have a spammer
connected to this group? Thanks much. Hope if he’s gotten my email
from here that alerting everyone will put a stop to it.

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Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Ken,

I also never received any such post. 

On 8/29/2019 2:25 PM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi listers, from time to time I have received emails from a TMR at vorail dot com.  Something like week 108 or week of…  the top five ask alls for the blind/low vision community.  I just now got another one and replied asking that he either stop sending these or he verify why and how he knows me.  Has he perhaps harvested my name from this list or others I’m part of ?  he might be on the level but it appears very strange.  Is anyone else getting these and do we have a spammer connected to this group?  Thanks much. Hope if he’s gotten my email from here that alerting everyone will put a stop to it. 

 

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Clock-19.09-dev #addontesting

Abdel
 

Hi everybody,

I am Abdel, a collaborator for the add-on Clock and calendar.

Someone reported the following bug when using quiet hours:

If the start time is greater than the end time, the duration of the quiet hours does not arrive until the end time.

In principle, it must be the next day that must be automatically chosen through an internal code.

This code is in the timeInRange function, defined in the dtfunctions module.

This function has been corrected as follows, to fix the bug:

def timeInRange(startTime, endTime, checkTime, use24hour=False):
    """
    A function that can be used to check whether the time range received as a parameter does not match a specific time.
    @param startTime: The start time in the range.
    @type startTime: basestring.
    @param endTime: The end time in the range.
    @type endTime: basestring.
    @param checkTime: The time that will allow for the verification.
    @type checkTime: basestring.
    @param use24hour: optional: A boolean to determine whether the specified times format are 24-hour format or not.
    @type use24hours: boolean.
    @returns: A Boolean corresponding to the verification.
    @rtype: boolean.
    """
    start=parseTime(startTime, use24hour)
    end=parseTime(endTime, use24hour)
    check=parseTime(checkTime, use24hour)
    if end<start:
        end+=timedelta(days=1)
        if check < start:
            check+=timedelta(days=1)
    return start<=check<end

The 19.09-dev version of the add-on is downloadable here, it is also available by clicking on the "development version" link on the community site, as well as with addonUpdater, in the dev channel:

http://cyber25.free.fr/nvda-addons/clock-19.09-dev.nvda-addon

It will remain in development version during a period of 2 weeks.

Thanks in advance for confirming me if the bug persists or not.

Kind regards,
Abdel.


Re: is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

 

I am not and have never been.  I can also state with certainty that there is no existing member with the stated e-mail address.
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is anyone else on list receiving thse and are they real?

ken lawrence
 

Hi listers, from time to time I have received emails from a TMR at vorail dot com.  Something like week 108 or week of…  the top five ask alls for the blind/low vision community.  I just now got another one and replied asking that he either stop sending these or he verify why and how he knows me.  Has he perhaps harvested my name from this list or others I’m part of ?  he might be on the level but it appears very strange.  Is anyone else getting these and do we have a spammer connected to this group?  Thanks much. Hope if he’s gotten my email from here that alerting everyone will put a stop to it. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10